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usako:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on July 29, 2016, 08:53:38 PM ---Aww, you don't like the cavemen song?! LOL I love Love Somebody and love that lyric! I think that whole song is so cute; it just makes me smile.
I'm also really glad Brian hasn't just thrown in the towel. I don't think he wants to, but he definitely could have. I think it helps that the guys and the fans, for the most part, have been supportive.
I just looked up Darlin' on the cruise, and WOW! He sounded great! I definitely think he does better with the higher/falsetto stuff; hopefully they consider that when choosing solos for new songs. Here's the video I watched in case anyone else wants to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlXkRrzXSY
I also love when he sang Mary Did You Know on the 2011 cruise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QgLXc7t8UI. That was right around when we were first starting to realize something was up with his voice, and you can hear it a little bit in this, but he still sounds amazing. This is the first time I can remember being moved to tears during a concert, and I'm not even particularly religious, but Brian's emotion and his passion and his beautiful voice brought tears to my eyes. (And wow, what a difference 5 years makes in terms of video quality! LOL)
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I HATE that song! lol Really, wasn't there another song to choose from? lol Let's just say that I'm not very fond of Nick's writing and I'm really hoping we'll get more writing from the other Boys on the next album. ;)
You should watch all the video from the cruise. "Darling" was that beautiful and I'm actually rpoud of Brian for choosing an old song instead than something newer: it shows that he's building up his confidence and that's the only weapon you can use against anxiety, which is at the end of day what causes most of his problems. But, for example, in "Safest Place To Hide" he actually sounded just like on the album so that's very promising for the future.
But, in the end, Brian and the other four are the ones who know most about all this situation so I trust them about how they should or shouldn't handle it. =)
Up to this day I still can't watch "Mary Did You Know?" and not ending up in tears. I agree with you about being the first time his problems were surfacing and visible for everyone but, at the same time, it's one of the few videos where you can see how much it was affecting him. I think it's one of the few moments, documentary aside, where we got a vulnerable and fragile Brian, that side of him that we have never seen before. (that's why I love writing him so much!)
Question: where do you get inspiration for ideas/plots/stories?
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: usako on July 30, 2016, 02:20:23 AM ---I HATE that song! lol Really, wasn't there another song to choose from? lol Let's just say that I'm not very fond of Nick's writing and I'm really hoping we'll get more writing from the other Boys on the next album. ;)
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I actually love Nick's writing. I think there is something beautiful about the cavemen line... "You're the reason why cavemen drew on the wall." I feel like that says something about how timeless love is; it's one of the things that makes us human. Cavemen are definitely not the kind of imagery that are typical in a love song, but that's why I like Nick's songs - they can be really quirky, and that makes them endearing to me. The first time I listened to his All American album, I thought the songs were kind of shallow, but as I got to know the lyrics, I realized there are some songs on that album that have a lot of substance and depth. And then there are songs about asses and drunken hijinks in Tijuana LOL. (I didn't say they ALL had depth.) I have really come to respect Nick's creativity and intelligence as both a writer and a musician much more than I used to. He is really talented!!
And on a related note, I also really love Howie's songwriting. His lyrics tend to be a little cheesy, but they're also adorable, and his songs are usually catchy. Two of my all-time favorite BSB songs, How Did I Fall in Love With You and One Phone Call, are both Howie songs. I would say he and Nick are probably my favorite songwriters of the five guys.
Do the rest of you have preferences on songwriters or favorite songs written by the guys?
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: usako on July 30, 2016, 02:20:23 AM ---You should watch all the video from the cruise. "Darling" was that beautiful and I'm actually rpoud of Brian for choosing an old song instead than something newer: it shows that he's building up his confidence and that's the only weapon you can use against anxiety, which is at the end of day what causes most of his problems. But, for example, in "Safest Place To Hide" he actually sounded just like on the album so that's very promising for the future.
But, in the end, Brian and the other four are the ones who know most about all this situation so I trust them about how they should or shouldn't handle it. =)
Up to this day I still can't watch "Mary Did You Know?" and not ending up in tears. I agree with you about being the first time his problems were surfacing and visible for everyone but, at the same time, it's one of the few videos where you can see how much it was affecting him. I think it's one of the few moments, documentary aside, where we got a vulnerable and fragile Brian, that side of him that we have never seen before. (that's why I love writing him so much!)
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I definitely need to catch up on cruise concert videos! I was so busy in May, I didn't have time to follow much of the cruise stuff. I didn't even know they sang Safest Place to Hide, for instance!
Personally, I tend to think Brian's emotion in the Mary Did You Know performance was more about the message of the song than what was going on with his voice, but it was still a really poignant moment anyway. Love him!
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: usako on July 30, 2016, 02:20:23 AM ---Question: where do you get inspiration for ideas/plots/stories?
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I get inspiration from all over the place... usually other stories/books or TV shows/movies, but also real life events and news, songs, jokes (more often than you'd think!), and so on. Sometimes I start with a title I like or an idea for a scene and build on it from there. Other times I start with a certain guy or type of story I want to write and see if I can develop an idea that works for that. "What if?" questions are great places to start, too. The story I'm currently working on, Sick as My Secrets, was definitely a "what if?" mixed with a joke idea. I've found that the ideas that make me laugh and say to myself, "OMG, I can't write that... but what if I did?" turn out to be the best ones!
mare:
I used to draw inspiration from dreams. Pretty much all of my most popular stories came from random dreams I had. It Stays was an idea I had for a really long time but I felt like it was way too dark to write, so I sat on it for a year or so. That one came from watching that one old school video of them singing a Capella around a piano. I don't even remember which song it was, but the look on Nick's face as he sang and the way he and Brian exchanged glances, brought about this whole twisted story in my head for some reason. lol
As far as them as songwriters... I think the only one I'm not really on board with his AJ. I think the other four have written at least a few songs I have really enjoyed, especially How Did I Fall in Love With You. I do think they all write better when they're just writing for themselves instead of the group though.
I hate how the music industry and now it's trickled down to the public, have put a stigma on pop people that if they don't write their own music, they are selling out or are not real musicians. Some people are just not meant to be song writers just like some songwriters should not sing their own stuff. Writing a great song is hard and not many people have a natural talent to be able to pull it off without being overly cliche or borrowing from other songs or collaborators. It's one of the things that irks me lol
I feel like country is the only genre that still keeps them separate but equal.
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