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nicksgal:

--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 14, 2021, 05:57:25 PM ---I agree about the smaller scale.  Otherwise they turn out like Dr. Rough, who I love as a character, but he is definitely a parody/caricature of a cliched supervillain, not a believable one.  I think it's important to develop them as characters in their own right and make sure they have clear motives that make sense, rather than just focusing on their villainous acts.  That's harder for a plot-driven writer, but still doable.
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Sure, but Dr. Rough is a parody/caricature of a cliched super villain in a semi-serious parody of James Bond movies. He's doing exactly what he's supposed to do in that story, so he's fine. Put him into... I don't know... a kidnapping story and yeah, he's a little over the top, haha. Even as a plot-driven writer, you have to ask the same question. "This needs to happen for the plot. What was the villain's plotline until this moment that made them do the thing?" And if the answer is, "Nothing, it's for the evulz," then you should probably go back and figure out what happened that made the villain decide that that thing should happen for the plot. Or a good alternative is to write stories where the villain isn't a person, it's nature or circumstance or what have you. You don't need to give nature character development, haha.


--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 14, 2021, 05:57:25 PM ---Day off school/work to listen to BSB music and write!

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I gotta work tomorrow, so keep sending snow day vibes!

RokofAges75:

--- Quote from: nicksgal on February 14, 2021, 06:21:48 PM ---Sure, but Dr. Rough is a parody/caricature of a cliched super villain in a semi-serious parody of James Bond movies. He's doing exactly what he's supposed to do in that story, so he's fine. Put him into... I don't know... a kidnapping story and yeah, he's a little over the top, haha. Even as a plot-driven writer, you have to ask the same question. "This needs to happen for the plot. What was the villain's plotline until this moment that made them do the thing?" And if the answer is, "Nothing, it's for the evulz," then you should probably go back and figure out what happened that made the villain decide that that thing should happen for the plot. Or a good alternative is to write stories where the villain isn't a person, it's nature or circumstance or what have you. You don't need to give nature character development, haha.

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About Dr. Rough - absolutely!  He works for that story because it's basically one big over-the-top parody anyway.  But he's way too silly for a serious suspense story.

That's one reason I prefer to write medical drama and stuff like The Road to Bethlehem.  The villain isn't human; it's disease and weather and animals and AJ's appendix LOL.

(Side note:  I was super freaked out by AJ posting a video of himself singing Shape of My Heart after my reply to your comment on AO3 LOL.  Maybe that's his subliminal way of telling me he wants to live.  Is AJ going to fight me on this??  I haven't tortured him into submission like Nick.)



--- Quote from: nicksgal on February 14, 2021, 06:21:48 PM ---I gotta work tomorrow, so keep sending snow day vibes!

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Oh noes!  But it's International Fanworks Day!  And Presidents' Day!  Sending those snow day/polar vortex vibes your way.

nicksgal:

--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 14, 2021, 06:52:20 PM ---That's one reason I prefer to write medical drama and stuff like The Road to Bethlehem.  The villain isn't human; it's disease and weather and animals and AJ's appendix LOL.

(Side note:  I was super freaked out by AJ posting a video of himself singing Shape of My Heart after my reply to your comment on AO3 LOL.  Maybe that's his subliminal way of telling me he wants to live.  Is AJ going to fight me on this??  I haven't tortured him into submission like Nick.)


Oh noes!  But it's International Fanworks Day!  And Presidents' Day!  Sending those snow day/polar vortex vibes your way.

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"AJ's appendix, why did you decide to burst right now?" "For the evulz! Muahahahahah!"  LMAO

LMFAO! The timing of that is impeccable! He wants a Code Black & Blue! Maybe he heard me hoping for a Code Black & Blue and tried to make it happen himself; let the Boy live!

Also, see, this is what happens when we focus all of our torture efforts on Nick, the others get wise and fight back while we're busy. ;)

I'm bummed too, but private schools do what they want and the staff chose MLK Day this year over President's Day. (Which is crazy. President's Day gives you a nice break halfway between winter break and spring break.) Can you imagine me taking a day off work for International Fanworks Day and saying that was the reason? It would sound so silly. Yes, polar vortex! Maybe if it's cold enough, even without snow, that'll do it!

RokofAges75:
LMAO Code Black & Blue definitely needs to be the name of that BSB fanfic trope.  Did we already try starting a list of BSB tropes?

Darn private schools!  They should celebrate MLK and Lincoln and Washington just like public schools do!  LOL I would love to hear you admit you took the day off for International Fanworks Day.

C'mon, polar vortex!  Drop that wind chill!

nicksgal:
We did not try starting a list of BSB fanfic tropes yet! We did try starting a list of BSB fanfic rules of the internet, but tropes might be the funnier way to go. In general, Nick is the fandom "Woobie" for sure. And Code Black & Blue is the perfect name for that trope for BSB fanfics.

I hear you, they definitely should. I keep hoping, but it's still one or the other and I've worked at this school since 2016.

"I took it off for International Fanworks Day." "What?" "It's a day celebrating the creative genius that is fanfics." "Uhhh... how do you participate in that?" "Spend the day writing or reading fanfics mostly." "Right..."Meanwhile, we have party hats here.

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