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nicksgal:
OMG, some of these tags on AO3! "Character Development." Does this need to be a tag? I hope there's character development in a story.
I also see a Bowie (nice to see a broader range of main characters) and a Nick/self insert. Did I start an AO3 trend on Nick/Original Female Characters again? Because, yay?
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on February 16, 2021, 08:57:13 PM ---I have admitted that I've only truly cared about three of my individual writing projects! ;D Truthfully, I was probably just waiting for inspiration to stick in order to finish the juggernaut that is PBox et al; it just happened to be a decade after I wrote the first one. What I envy is your consistency and your commitment to working on only one project, then still being inspired enough to go back to the other ideas you had while working on that project. It was harder back in the day than it is now. I have a few ideas (as you know), but it's still a little difficult to commit to sitting them down and telling them it's not their turn yet. Or it would be, except PNecklace is being driven by plucky Nick and he's shouting "IT'S MY TURN, GET OUT OF THE WAY!" haha.
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That's awesome that your inspiration came back after that long though! That's what I keep hoping will happen for the unfinished stories I haven't even attempted to work on in years... heh, we'll see.
I have a better track record for finishing stories when I just focus on one at a time. If I jumped on every idea I had and started writing it right away, I would have lots of beginnings and not many endings. So instead, I write down the idea, maybe even do some research and outlining, and save it for when the time is right. I figure if it's meant to be written, I'll get around to writing it someday. And if it's not, it's probably because I came up with something better.
--- Quote from: nicksgal on February 16, 2021, 08:57:13 PM ---Well, I'm glad you didn't because that's when we became friends! :biggrin:
How is it compartmentali zing your social media? I feel like it's easier to be more anonymous on twitter than instagram. Everything I have, I'm just me.
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Very true!
It's definitely easier to be more anonymous on Twitter than Instagram because you don't have to have a picture for every post. I am not a picture person, so I don't like that about Instagram. I am pretty private in general, which is the main reason I compartmentali ze and show different parts of myself on different social media platforms. I don't want my real life friends, coworkers, or students finding my site or stories, so it's easier to use one platform to talk about that stuff and a different platform for personal or professional stuff. I could have just created multiple accounts, but I'm not big on having to switch back and forth. I'd be paranoid I would accidentally post from the wrong account LOL.
--- Quote from: nicksgal on February 16, 2021, 08:57:13 PM ---I even started trying to write them down as OF when it didn't seem like BSB fanfic was the right avenue. And even those didn't stick! That's part of why I started writing Beta Sigma Beta; I thought, maybe if I step out of me for all this and tell college from Nick's POV, I'll actually be able to unjumble it. Who knows, maybe I would have. :shrug:
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I still love the name of that story (Beta Sigma Beta)! Do you think it would be harder now that you're further removed from college to go back to writing about that experience?
--- Quote from: nicksgal on February 16, 2021, 08:57:13 PM ---I know you said you weren't going to write another cancer story. Is having experienced it a little more personally part of the reason? I think that "things could always be worse" is what drives enjoyment of media. We're over here like, "Yeah, my only friend right now is my dog, but at least I'm not dying and eating my friend's heart!"
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Honestly, no, I don't think the personal experience has anything to do with me not wanting to write another cancer story. It's more that I've already written two of them (technically three if you count the Brian one I wrote way back in the day, which was terrible) with different takes on it, and I don't think I could do it any better than I've already done. Never say never though.
Does anyone else have any storylines that they're like, "Okay, that ship has sailed. I won't be writing anything like that again"?
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on February 16, 2021, 09:07:54 PM ---OMG, some of these tags on AO3! "Character Development." Does this need to be a tag? I hope there's character development in a story.
I also see a Bowie (nice to see a broader range of main characters) and a Nick/self insert. Did I start an AO3 trend on Nick/Original Female Characters again? Because, yay?
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LOL I would hope, but I'm not sure how much character development exists in those stories whose tags are nothing but different sexual acts. But to each their own. No one watches porn for the character development either.
Sometimes I wonder if authors on AO3 just try to use as many tags as possible to get more views. That includes tagging other fandoms too. Crossovers are fine if they're legit, but I question the ones that have like 10+ different fandoms tagged. I guess technically if we posted 00Carter there, we could tag every boyband that has a member in FANS, but to me that doesn't really count. No Westlife fan is going to read 00Carter because two of its members appear in like one scene, where they are promptly killed off.
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 16, 2021, 11:04:58 PM ---That's awesome that your inspiration came back after that long though! That's what I keep hoping will happen for the unfinished stories I haven't even attempted to work on in years... heh, we'll see.
I have a better track record for finishing stories when I just focus on one at a time. If I jumped on every idea I had and started writing it right away, I would have lots of beginnings and not many endings. So instead, I write down the idea, maybe even do some research and outlining, and save it for when the time is right. I figure if it's meant to be written, I'll get around to writing it someday. And if it's not, it's probably because I came up with something better.
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Even though I hoped, I'm still a little baffled by it to be honest. However, I will take it! I'll keep sending some your way.
Oh, but beginnings are the most fun! Everyone loves a good beginning! ;) How often do you get other ideas while you're in the middle of something? I know you have several stories in various stages of planning.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 16, 2021, 11:04:58 PM ---It's definitely easier to be more anonymous on Twitter than Instagram because you don't have to have a picture for every post. I am not a picture person, so I don't like that about Instagram. I am pretty private in general, which is the main reason I compartmentali ze and show different parts of myself on different social media platforms. I don't want my real life friends, coworkers, or students finding my site or stories, so it's easier to use one platform to talk about that stuff and a different platform for personal or professional stuff. I could have just created multiple accounts, but I'm not big on having to switch back and forth. I'd be paranoid I would accidentally post from the wrong account LOL.
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It's also easier to disappear from instagram. No pictures, not posting, ha. I would worry so much about posting the wrong thing on the wrong account. What a nightmare to talk about silly fanfic jokes on the wrong account! Everyone in your personal life would think, "So this is what she does on the internet... Huh..."
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 16, 2021, 11:04:58 PM ---I still love the name of that story (Beta Sigma Beta)! Do you think it would be harder now that you're further removed from college to go back to writing about that experience?
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It was all very serendipitous. I don't know; I have a pretty vivid memory about life at the time, but I think it would lack the earnestness of "being nineteen/twenty/twenty-one" that it had then. I guess, like you, I'm not willing to discount anything, but I have a sneaking suspicion that what's there is it. Rereading it didn't give me the "aww, I miss this" feeling that Gobosei does. Although, you know I love a good nostalgic Backstreet fic and a good AU... so those are points in its favor. I think I end up talking about it more often just because it was the last thing I was doing before my hiatus, other than collaborations .
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 16, 2021, 11:04:58 PM ---Honestly, no, I don't think the personal experience has anything to do with me not wanting to write another cancer story. It's more that I've already written two of them (technically three if you count the Brian one I wrote way back in the day, which was terrible) with different takes on it, and I don't think I could do it any better than I've already done. Never say never though.
Does anyone else have any storylines that they're like, "Okay, that ship has sailed. I won't be writing anything like that again"?
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But writing the Brian one helped you perfect the other two! Anything besides cancer stories where you don't think you could do it better than you already have? You said that about your Nowie story too, right?
Uhhhh... I mean not in the more positive way that you do. More in the "These things are unfinished for a reason" stance.
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on February 16, 2021, 11:17:09 PM ---LOL I would hope, but I'm not sure how much character development exists in those stories whose tags are nothing but different sexual acts. But to each their own. No one watches porn for the character development either.
Sometimes I wonder if authors on AO3 just try to use as many tags as possible to get more views. That includes tagging other fandoms too. Crossovers are fine if they're legit, but I question the ones that have like 10+ different fandoms tagged. I guess technically if we posted 00Carter there, we could tag every boyband that has a member in FANS, but to me that doesn't really count. No Westlife fan is going to read 00Carter because two of its members appear in like one scene, where they are promptly killed off.
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Haha, you're right. Let me go tag PBox as "Character Development," just in case the fifty chapters and 180,000 words didn't tip anyone off.
I would be impressed if people had those huge crossovers and they were legitimately balanced between all the fandoms. I'm always curious, especially when the summaries don't list any of the Boys specifically. That's why I was fine tagging PBox as a BSB and NSYNC story here on AC, obviously they're both in it. But at a place where an NSYNC fan could read it and say, "OMG, this BSB fanfic writer has made my fandom her villains and they are horrible and OOC!" Why would I do that? I think 00Carter is the same way.
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