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nicksgal:
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2021, 11:01:33 PM ---2. Which scene was your favorite to write in [title of fic]?
The chapter where Nick and Brian dressed in drag as Spice Girls after failing to complete the task during the fraternity rush. It's funny because I made Nick Baby and Brian Sporty and then years later on the 2018 cruise they dressed exactly the same Spice Girls I chose lol
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I can confirm that fraternity boys make new members do some funny things; when the new members roll with it, it's the best. I also love that this ended up coming true in real life! I am in awe of y'all predictive abilities, first Mare uses her power for evil, Tracy uses it for Spice Girls, Julie uses it for Christmas albums. (*glances hopefully at PBox and crosses both fingers* Please actually be demons with magic powers.)
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2021, 11:01:33 PM ---5. Did you make an outline for [title]? Did you stick to it?
I never outline. I just let things roll. I do have a general idea of what I want to do and I wing it from there.
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It's fun over here on Team "I suck at outlines, lol." ;)
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2021, 11:01:33 PM ---7. Who was your favorite character to write in [title]?
Nick of course. But this was my first story that I did in first person POV. I like to challenge myself.
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Do you have an idea of what your next challenge to yourself might be?
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2021, 11:01:33 PM ---8. Which came first, the title or the fic?
The title came after I wrote the first chapter. I wanted to do a play off of Finding Nemo. It also has a double meaning.
10. What are some facts readers may not know about [title]?
All of the Disney quotes are actual quotes from Disney movies
Each quote has to do with what happens in each chapter in some way. There's so many Disney references.
Peter and Andrew, Nick's kids are named for Andy from Toy Story and Peter Pan. Peter is named because when Nick had his first son he realized it was time for him to grow up. Andrew because Andy in Toy Story grew up. Nick held onto the Disney things because he wasn't ready to grow up and move on from his parents death and at the end the children are kind of symbol of him letting go and maturing.
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Why did you decide to lean into the Disney with the story? I think it's fun.
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2021, 11:01:33 PM ---The two guys who hang out with Howie all the time, Brock and Gary are named after characters from Pokémon. Also, their fraternity of Phi Beta Kappa (Pikas) is another pokémon reference.
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I see your potential weebiness and salute you as a fellow former weeb (as you likely know having read PBox before it's de-weebing edit).
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:05:50 PM ---1. Of the fics you’ve written, which is your favorite and why?
Like I said in my last post, I'd probably have to go with Curtain Call. It's the first novel I wrote that I've found I can read for my own entertainment and actually enjoy, instead of cringing over parts I wish I'd written differently or skimming over boring scenes. It's the kind of story I would love if someone else had written it, but I'm happy that I'm the one who did.
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How often would you say it warrants a self reread?
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:05:50 PM ---2. Which scene was your favorite to write in [title of fic]?
My favorite of the cute, fluffy scenes to write was Chapter 36 because I based Cary's dad on my own dad, and it was fun to write him as a character and imagine myself bringing Nick Carter home to meet him.
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This is so cute! Do you often base characters on people in your real life or was this a one time thing?
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:05:50 PM ---3. Which part of [title] was hardest to write?
The last fifteen chapters were pretty brutal, but Chapter 88 in particular was tough... not only from an emotional perspective, but also because of the challenge of trying to realistically write a character's death in present tense from their own point of view. I'm really happy with how it turned out though.
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This sounds super brutal! Is this the one you were talking about that time we talked about character deaths and you said you'd agonized over having the death happen in real time or be told about later?
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:05:50 PM ---4. If you could change anything in [title], what would it be?
I have never loved the American Idol storyline at the beginning - even when I was writing it, I didn't like it. It was just there as a plot device to facilitate Nick finding Cary without resorting to even cheesier teenybopper fanfic tropes like having him discover her at open-mic night at the bar or in the front row of one of his shows or something. It still feels kinda cheesy though, so if I could change anything, I would come up with a better but still believable scenario. The first five chapters definitely feel like the beginning of a teenybopper fanfic, which is why I posted them all at once and hoped readers who are like me would stick with it long enough to get hooked by how I ended Chapter 5. I don't know that I would have made it that far without knowing where it was going LOL.
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Of all the teenybopper starts, I feel like open-mic night is the most realistic/feels the least teeny. It's perfectly reasonable that a Backstreet Boy would happen to be at a bar and it happens to be open mic night (and he thinks, "Oh no, I've made a terrible mistake! I don't want to be at an open-mic night!") It is not perfectly reasonable that a girl is front row at a show and he thinks "Yup, she looks like she can sing!" And then he replaces whatever opening act they've had all tour with her. lmao
I would also hope that people who typically read your writing didn't think, "Oh no, Julie has gone teeny. Must stop reading this now."
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:05:50 PM ---6. Which scenes did you cut, and which were added in [title]?
I do know at one point I was planning for (spoiler)
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You say you don't get backlash, but that spoiler feels like backlash. ;)
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:05:50 PM ---8. Which came first, the title or the fic?
The idea for the fic came first. Rose gave me the title during one of our late-night summer chats/brainstorming sessions. I was torn between calling it "The Show Must Go On" and "On With the Show" (as I listened to Queen's "The Show Must Go On" on repeat) and asked her opinion on which she liked better, and she answered C) None of the above and suggested "Curtain Call" instead, which was way less cheesy sounding. Thanks, Rose!
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Rose has many great late night ideas. It's her hallmark/calling card.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:05:50 PM ---10. What are some facts readers may not know about [title]?
Originally I was planning to write the whole story in Cary's point of view, which is why the first five chapters are all in hers. But once I got that far, I found myself really wanting to read Nick's perspective, so I decided to try writing some chapters from his point of view and see how it went. From there on, I started switching back and forth between their POVs. Early on in the story, it changes POVs every five chapters, then at some point starts switching every two, and then finally every chapter toward the end. I guess that's something else I would try to change if I could - just alternate POVs each chapters from the beginning and keep it consistent. Lesson learned for future stories written this way.
When I was still in the planning stages of this story, I had two versions outlined - one that took place during the This Is Us tour (more or less in the present, since I started writing it in July 2010 as that tour was going on) and one that took place two years earlier during the Unbreakable tour. I had a list of all the tour dates and cities for both tours, as well as other real events that happened in the Boys' lives, and I synced that up with the events I had planned for the story and the treatment schedule to see which would work better. TIU won. From there, I tried to include as much real life stuff as I could. I looked at soundcheck videos and forum threads for each show I wrote about so I could include some moments that really happened, like Nick forgetting the lyrics to Panic at one of the soundchecks and singing Shattered in his Michael McDonald voice at another. That was fun.
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Was it first person alternating POV or third person alternating POV? I always think it's fun to get a story from two different perspectives.
I love this attention to detail and am always in awe of y'all who plan with real life timelines. True heroes.
FrickingKaos:
It’s actually funny you say i predicted that, and I have mentioned this one before I think? But I had written a short story that was a parody of the Wizard Of Oz once called Jizzle Of Oz. In the story Nick was the Dorothy character complete with ruby red converse sneakers. Leighanne was Glinda the witch from the North. On one of the cruises they did Wizard of Oz costumes, and to my delight Nick was Dorothy with ruby red sneakers. I was so happy. I had to explain to my roommate why I was so excited. Leighanne ended up being Glinda too which I found hilarious.
I truly do suck at outlines haha.
I challenged myself while writing If I Knew Then, it was my first slash novel. I’m currently challenging myself in writing History by making Kevin the main character, because I’ve never done that before. I’d say my next challenge would be to make a story about Howie or AJ, but I really just cannot connect with Howie long enough to write a decent amount about him. Sorry Howie. :D
I don’t remember why I went with the Disney theme but Nicks character was studying to be an animator and that kind of went with it. I just love Disney myself and thought it would be fun to play off all of those things. When I wrote the story I had never set foot in a Disney theme park. I ended up going in 2018 and it was just as amazing as I had described in the story.
I do enjoy anime lol I have a super soft spot for Sailor Moon. However none of my readers caught the Pokémon references during the story and I must admit that I was slightly disappointed lol
FrickingKaos:
Funny that Dee said that Howie is always evil..in Finding Carter he is a real jerk lmao I made him so mean. My readers were like whyyyyyy
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:13:15 PM ---Yes! Nick is an angel, and Howie is a devil LOL.
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Now I have to find something important for AJ and Kevin to do, haha.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:13:15 PM ---LOL When you write epically long stories, twenty chapters isn't that much. I can see how you would be at a turning point that gets you into the last phase of the story that far out. It's exciting to get close to the climactic part!
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It's exciting now. Ask me how I feel once I'm in the thick of it.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2021, 11:13:15 PM ---LOL Of course it's "Nick!" Nick probably insisted upon it, right? I love that you came up with a last line that related back to the first line of the story. I love when stories parallel or bookend that way.
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He just wanted his time in the spotlight, haha. He didn't necessarily insist on it, he just kind of said, "Hey, I'm going to do this thing. Let everyone else react how they will." I felt the paralleling/bookending was appropriate; I also love it so much. I'm pretty stoked about the whole thing.
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