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nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 07, 2021, 04:29:40 PM ---LOL At least he's self-aware of his acting abilities, or lack thereof. But I hope he makes more movies because they're always entertaining. And he's right; he does have a lot of other talents.
I loved him tearing up watching the wedding video too! Who would have thought Ghetto Fab Nick would grow up to be this sweet, sentimental family man? Aww! I'm so proud of him.
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"I suck at acting, lol." Just add it to the resume you don't actually have or need, Nick. I'm into him making other movies, but I don't know if I'd enjoy him being in other peoples' movies as much. Unless AJ was directing and wanted Nick specifically or something.
I always figured he had it in him! Especially after having been a lost early 20-something myself! (Admittedly with less ghetto fab-ness; I think it's a guy thing.) He just needed to make sure he was surrounding himself with the right people (which is easier said than done).
FrickingKaos:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on March 07, 2021, 06:11:31 PM ---Yaaassss! Haunted Mansion is my absolute favorite! It's the only ride I've insisted on riding whenever I've gone. Though, drinking around the world at Epcot is now a close second after having done that "ride."
Aw, those are cute little nicknames for those reasons.
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Epcot is my favorite park. The margaritas in Mexico were so good. I want to go back again and do more of Epcot cause I didn't see enough. We ate at that restaurant that's underwater, I can't remember the name of it off hand. But it's the same one that Danny and Vicki ate at in Full House during the Disney World episode. The food was so good, and we got to watch them feeding the fish in the aquarium. It was really cool. I also love the Misison Earth ride. Hell I just really enjoyed Epcot.
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on March 07, 2021, 07:05:10 PM ---Epcot is my favorite park. The margaritas in Mexico were so good. I want to go back again and do more of Epcot cause I didn't see enough. We ate at that restaurant that's underwater, I can't remember the name of it off hand. But it's the same one that Danny and Vicki ate at in Full House during the Disney World episode. The food was so good, and we got to watch them feeding the fish in the aquarium. It was really cool. I also love the Misison Earth ride. Hell I just really enjoyed Epcot.
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The margs were great! I loved that cute little British pub with the phonebooth too. I mostly took silly photos with all of the landmarks. We ended up eating at one of little restaurants just outside of Epcot near the hotels. Can't remember which one though! That underwater restaurant sounds awesome! Our trip was planned the day of going because we were woefully unprepared for Disney World and only semi-prepared for the bowl game we actually went to see, haha. I did get a "It's my birthday" button and some black and gold Minnie ears, though, so that was fun.
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on March 07, 2021, 07:05:10 PM ---Epcot is my favorite park. The margaritas in Mexico were so good. I want to go back again and do more of Epcot cause I didn't see enough. We ate at that restaurant that's underwater, I can't remember the name of it off hand. But it's the same one that Danny and Vicki ate at in Full House during the Disney World episode. The food was so good, and we got to watch them feeding the fish in the aquarium. It was really cool. I also love the Misison Earth ride. Hell I just really enjoyed Epcot.
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Oh man, you just brought back a memory, but I don't know if it's a real memory or a false one. I feel like I also ate at that underwater restaurant with my family when I went to Epcot as a kid, but I don't know if that really happened or if I am remembering it from that Full House episode LOL. I've only been to Epcot once, when I was 11. It was my least favorite park at the time because it had the fewest rides. I'm sure I would enjoy it more as an adult now that I can drink my way around the world LOL. I'll have to ask my parents if they remember us eating at the underwater restaurant.
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on March 07, 2021, 06:42:17 PM ---It's good he has us to help him through his early twenties. lmao
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Yeah, his memoir was a good read and all, but our versions of how his early twenties could have gone were even more interesting. LOL
--- Quote from: nicksgal on March 07, 2021, 06:42:17 PM ---You know, we don't know for sure that he hasn't fought a bear. Maybe it was really traumatic and he doesn't like to talk about it. haha I think it's because he's a reactor that he gets to experience all this craziness. He definitely wears his heart on his sleeve; it's why he's a terrible liar.
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We also don't know for sure that he's not a demon. Maybe his wings are invisible or retract into his back. You're right, though; Nick has much better reactions than, say, mild-mannered Howie. Howie fighting a bear would not be nearly as fun to write or read about. Sorry, Howie. That's why I prefer you as Dr. Rough.
--- Quote from: nicksgal on March 07, 2021, 06:42:17 PM ---Great minds think alike, of course! Also because these are the exact things I would have listed as well. I think the only thing I would add is that it feels like more often than not, Kevin falls into "only sane man" territory with the others. Although, that may be less true now that he's not "the most adult wrangling in the children because Howie's too nice to put them in their place." Call that a "Classic Backstreet Hallmark."
Alright! Unless anyone disagrees with us, we have officially established our bare minimum cannon. We've had a productive weekend after not being sure what to talk about.
I think if they're intentionally subverted, it's one of those things we fill in (like Nick just garnering mass sympathy because of "common background knowledge" even when he's being a jerk). We say "Oh, normally they're like this, so something has clearly happened to make it the opposite. Let's find out why." I think it's fun to intentionally subvert them, take them to their logical extremes, and push them up against conflict. I mean, we all eventually get tired of "playing it straight," no?
That's probably exactly why Howie is most likely to be the villain! Intentional subversion or unintentional subversion to make him more "interesting." I'd hope everyone does it on purpose, but as mentioned yesterday, I'm trying to be better about not projecting my opinions on people. Trying.
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Great minds do think alike! Glad we've established our canon. It turned out to be a fun, chatty weekend!
I do think subverting these "canon" characterizati ons is how you keep things interesting while writing story after story about the same characters in different situations and avoid using the same cliched stereotypes. Like, Kevin is the big brother of the group, but that doesn't mean he should always be bossing the other guys around, especially in a present day story. Brian is religious, but that doesn't mean he prays all the time. Howie does more than wink. (I forgot to include the winking on my list. I love how winking is the one characteristic we kept intact in 00Carter LOL.)
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