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nicksgal:
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on June 17, 2021, 08:30:47 AM ---Happy to report that my quest to be inspired to work on Take Me Home has been successful and I got a chapter finished for it. I was so happy. I had been watching some movies to inspire myself and I reread what I had posted to get back into it. I hadn't updated it since 2019. I'm feeling hopeful I'll be able to finish this one too!
Julie, I'm still not sure if I'll post the Brian spin off because I think the idea needs some more work. So no pressure to read the rest of the series, not to mention it's not my best work LOL it's very cheesy. There's also some plot inconsistency as well but as a whole that series was fun to write.
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Glad Take Me Home is going well after not updating since 2019! I hope it continues to go well! I also find that rereading is usually a big help. What originally stopped the inspiration on this one?
Sometimes we all need some cheesy goodness in our lives. Long live the cheese! Especially old cheese, because it helps us either learn how to embrace the cheese in a more nuanced way or explore other options to cheese.
--- Quote from: FrickingKaos on June 17, 2021, 02:54:08 PM ---Incomplete was the first story I ever posted but Nick and Amanda is technically the first story I ever wrote, because it started as a thing my former best friend and I did back in high school. So I've been writing it a lot longer than the 10 years it took me to finish online. It started as only one story, called By My Side. Then I changed the name to You Give Love A Bad Name. I then decided I wanted to tell the story of how Nick and Amanda met so I wrote At The Beginning and Not The Other Guy. Still the One and From This Moment On came later so it just became a huge series lol. This is probably why there's some inconsistent things, that don't really change the story or anything but they still bother me and have been pointed out, like Nick knowing how to cook, or that he cleans and Amanda not knowing and her being impressed. I keep meaning to go back and fix it but I just haven't had time.
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It's great that your first story turned into this whole lovingly crafted series that still inspires you! That's awesome.
Although, is Nick knowing how to cook inconsistent? He's clearly pancake daddy these days, lol. I get those little inconsistencie s being a bother, but not being a major focus. I have some of those moments as well.
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 17, 2021, 01:21:55 PM ---Question I thought of for everyone: If you were going to write a sequel, prequel, or spin-off to one of your older stories, which one would it be?
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Does PBox not count? I'm guessing it doesn't count for being the obvious answer, lol.
Uhhhh... You know what. I'll bite and pick something else. Of my old stories that are up, I think I would write a new version of that Romeo & Juliet battle of the bands story (because, it is not good by my current standards). Then, the sequel would be inspired by some other Shakespeare play... Since the Romeo & Juliet inspiration ended happily, I think I'd take a comedy and make it dark. Twelfth Night is my favorite, let's go with that.
Anyone else?
nicksgal:
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Thanks guys.
Also if it's in Vegas you'll be free to crash on my couch lol
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:-*
I appreciate the couch crashing offer and will let my back and neck endure what they may, lol!
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on June 21, 2021, 10:57:54 PM ---At least your lawn is mowed! Is that a once a week chore? Two times a month? I always picture you chopping grass and bodies on a riding lawnmower, but I feel like that's inaccurate, lol. It's good you had a fun day and still made time to write! That was me last week, just trying to keep the streak alive.
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It's usually about every other week, depending on how fast the grass is growing. It's been really dry here lately, so I probably won't have to mow this week. I only have a push mower since my yard's not that big, and its blade could use a sharpening, so in reality, it probably wouldn't do much damage to a body LOL.
--- Quote from: nicksgal on June 21, 2021, 10:57:54 PM ---I do remember that. I feel like whenever Nick has said "I want to do 'creative thing'," he typically ends up doing it eventually. I buy Nick being the writer. Entertainer has several parallels with story teller, especially in the historically oratory context of stories. If I remember correctly, his original BSP plan was meticulous... six chapters or something?
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Ooh, good point, I forgot to include the comic on my list of things he has written! He really is quite diverse in his creative endeavors, and aside from acting, he's good at everything he does! (And he's still entertaining to watch as an actor, even if he won't be winning any serious acting awards LOL.)
--- Quote from: nicksgal on June 21, 2021, 10:57:54 PM ---Sunday, I wrote a little longer, but yeah, it was pretty much just an hour every day. I did some editing on my phone a couple times when it was too hot to sleep though, lol.
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Do you find you use your writing time more productively when you limit it that way, like only writing an hour per day? Now that it's summer, I can get more written in a day where I don't have anywhere I have to be, but I waste so much time getting distracting while I'm "writing." Today I "wrote" in bed for like 4 hours, and I finished the scene I was on, but I only wrote 900 some words. That is really not much for 4 hours. But I know it's because I'd write a sentence or maybe even a few sentences and then open a new tab to look something up or watch a YouTube video or check Twitter or whatever while I "thought of what to write next." When the words are flowing, I'm more focused, but when they're not, this is why I write so slowly LOL.
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---Wow, over 4,000 words! That's awesome! At least you had a productive day. Hopefully tomorrow's the day you finish!
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When I get in the zone and have no distractions, I am a typing machine! I was excited that it happened two weekends in a row.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---I vote no to another supergroup beyond a one-and-done thing like this, but if they were going to do it, I guess NSYNC are at least more talented than NKOTB? Ugh, it kills me to admit that, but let's be honest - the only one who is actually a good singer in NKOTB is Joey McIntyre. It seems like all the NSYNC guys can sing. But I think if three or four NSYNC members want to tour, they should do it on their own. People would still go, even without Justin. And BSB definitely don't need them.
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Of course I prefer they don't do a supergroup, but Nick really likes his boyband collaboration projects. You just never know what he'll do next! NSYNC wasn't untalented (though Justin is really nasally), we were just conditioned by the rivalry. It used to be hard, so it's hard to move on sometimes.
I agree. They don't need them. Let's get them back to stadium tours!
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---LOL It is nothing worth taking a picture of, just a badly-drawn diagram. Yes, I finished my super long Nick chapter a few days ago and actually ended up moving the last scene I had planned into Kevin's chapter and writing it from his POV instead. The boys are back together now, so that gives me a little bit more flexibility. I finished 21 tonight, so now I'll be back to Nick's POV tomorrow.
I also made myself cry with my writing tonight, which is a rare thing. I can write all this super sad stuff and never shed a tear because I have that filter of "This is just fiction; it's fine." It doesn't usually faze me. But tonight it was something about Kevin's dad, so the reality of that combined with the fiction of my story totally got to me - full on tears rolling down my face. So I earned my Weepy Writer badge on Nano! LOL
Anyone else ever make themselves cry while writing? If so, what kinds of scenes do it to you?
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But it's a diagram that put things into perspective for you. Plus I loved your other blueprint, so I hope you add this one to your site at least. Woot woot! Finished another chapter! (Time is off for me and has no meaning since I have been slowly catching up on posts from last week, lol.) Hope Nick's POV chapter is going well! Now that I'm almost done catching up, I'll be better prepared to figure out how everyone's writing is going in real time.
Aww, I teared up a little at his Father's Day post. I get it. I also tend to keep a "this is just fiction" block up, but those moments where it feels real and nuanced are usually what get me too. I think the last time I teared up a bit, and usually when I do, is if I take inspiration from a scene from real life. There's an upcoming chapter of PNecklace where I definitely did cry a little since I borrowed the vibe of the scene from a conversation I'd had recently (though not exact words, of course).
I'm more likely to make myself laugh with my writing than cry, to be honest.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---LOL Yeah, Nick would be like Devon Sawa in Final Destination, thinking Death is out to get him.
I love that line! Love inside jokes in stories!
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If he isn't already! ;)
Same! That's why I add several of them.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---Oh yeah, I could definitely see them googling themselves in the early days of the group/internet. (They probably used Webcrawler or Altavista or something though, haha.)
I think we should handpick stories to show Brian and put them in increasingly kinky order so we can see the progression in his face. LOL!
LOL Howie would be very happy to be left out. SAMS would disturb him for several reasons, the least of which is him having sex with Nick. That's only a small part of the story. But it's funny because the main reason I picked him and Nick as my couple in the first place is because of that radio interview they did where he was talking about observing Nick's pubic hair and then got all defensive when they started joking about how there's a gay one in every group. I was like, "Hm..." Otherwise I probably would have gone for Frick/Frack.
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OMG, googling yourself on webcrawler or altavista! How ancient!
LOL! Yes! The confusion to shock to horror. *chef kiss* Can we agree to leave Baylee ones out of the lineup though? I'd much rather watch him be horrified about Frick&Frack than anything to do with his son.
You're right, he probably would! Especially when the slash aspect is only a piece of the story and you haven't added any of the tags that Brian would be enjoying horrified by. OMG! LMFAO! I must have missed that one. Howie! Why would you bring that up in an interview?! Of course the other Boys would mock you!
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---That's a good way to think about it.
I think it was heart-related, but we don't know exactly, and it doesn't say whether he wakes up or not! We're just left hanging. Which is a valid choice as a storyteller, but so frustrating to the reader! I would never be able to do that, so I guess I admire a writer who can just intentionally leave it vague like that. I always want to explain everything LOL.
Nick as Brian's guardian angel definitely needs to be a novel! It could still be a series of scenes that jump around, like Tracy did with History, but I'm gonna need more than just a one-shot.
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It doesn't say whether he wakes up or not?! I hate that lack of closure, lol. But you're right, a valid choice. I think there can be power in leaving an ending vague when it's been properly lead up to, but you're right, I would also want to know how it ended.
Alright, it will be a novel... eventually. ;)
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---The wordiness would be a struggle for me if I ever tried to get published, too. Although the only fanfic I've ever written that I thought could be fairly "easily" OF-ized without completely rewriting it because it's already AU is under 70,000 words. So maybe there's hope for me in that respect LOL. I think cutting out words would be the hardest part of editing for publication though. It's easier to add or change words than cut a significant number of them out.
LOL A 3,000 word novel! He's right; that sounds way too short. Even my first fanfic "novels" were at least twice that length LOL. 200,000 words is quite an accomplishment! You do deserve a nap!
LOL We could start a list, divided by boy.
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70,000 is right on target! And you're right, I think especially for RPF stories, AUs wouldn't be entirely tedious to rewrite as OF. The problem I'm having currently is that it's like dropping stones in a pond. You know when there are major things that have to change, so you change them. But then that changes other things and it just ripples through. Then it puts PNecklace in a weird spot because I'll think "Oh man, that's totally going to be important in PDemons, so it probably needs to come up in PNecklace since it didn't originally come up in PBox (as a fanfic anyway)." It's... fun. That's part of why I'm only five and a half chapters in (well that and finishing PNecklace of course), but then I keep going back and rethinking my opening chapter. Like Nick was kind of info-dumpy and he feels like the least likely to be an info-dumper, so... more hacking and slashing is imminent, I suppose. There's probably a lot more I could cut, I just don't see what it is yet.
My first ones were also at least three times that length, lol. Silly husband, even considering that a novel could be 3,000 words.
Obviously! lol! Is this a forum thread or a shared google sheets? What would we do with all these epithets once we've penned them to paper?
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2021, 02:44:51 AM ---Yes, you are! I've reached that age, too. LOL I slept wrong on Christmas Eve a few years ago and couldn't turn my neck to one side for like two days after. Last year I was stretching in bed right after waking up and popped my collarbone, and it not only hurt, but was sore for several days afterwards. Getting old already sucks, and we're only in our thirties!
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Ack! The weird neck pain! That happens to me all the time! And it's so annoying because then you have to turn your entire body just to face something. Ridiculous!
Ouch! A popped collarbone! I'm pretty sure I tore my groin this year... of all the ridiculous injuries... lol!
Ugh, stop reminding me that it only gets worse from here!
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