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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2024, 09:03:43 AM »

I know! I'm an evil genius. I just got another new reviewer for that story, so I don't think people have caught on yet. I'm in the process of doing that with a new story I'm writing as well. This time I'm being a double evil genius because not only have I paired him with Gerri but also a male character Mencken, which you probably have never heard of because he comes later on, but he ends up being the guy the Roys get behind as the next presidential candidate. In the show, he's very much patterned after Trump except for the fact that he's played by Justin Kirk who is a hottie.
Next to Roman and Gerri, there's is the next biggest ship because of Roman's up in the air confused sexuality. I've only written two chapters of that one and posted one, because even implied slash is hard for me, so I wasn't totally sure if it was a story I was going to pursue, but like the other one, I've been able to write their encounters as an afterthought. Roman shows up at the hotel then he's back and his desk and vaguely talks about it in flashback. LOL We'll see what happens. 

That MINE one is an AU so that might be it as well, but like I said, they enjoy their crossovers over there and seem to enjoy them as AU characters. Most of the time, those crossovers have to have them not as the real authentic Roys for it to work. I don't know. I'm posting the last chapter of that MINE story today, maybe it'll be one of stories that will get discovered later on and have more success. I should have paired Gerri and Roman in that one, although he' a teenager and she's still an old lady and married. Don't think I hadn't considered 'accidentally' adding that tag though. hehehe

Did you not enjoy the cursed child? I never read that one. I don't think I'd ever try an Only Murders one, because of the fact that I'm not all that comfortable with that fandom, but a murder mystery might be fun. I read a novel called Everyone in My Family has Killed Someone which I thoroughly enjoyed, and it was a great murder mystery and hilarious. The author breaks the fourth wall a lot. I am thinking of trying a story like that perhaps. you should check that novel out, it was great. I just found out they're making it into a MAX series. I can totally see Kieran playing the lead.
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2024, 09:44:39 AM »

I can't believe people actually ask you to write for them, especially if it's someone who you don't know and doesn't even comment on your stories!

I keep saying I'm going to get back into writing and then don't do anything about it lol.  I've had ideas, I just can't seem to motivate myself to write anything.  It's been so long.

The Cancun event sounds like only the actual concert would appeal.  I wouldn't be interested in watching Howie do shots, or Kevin DJ either.  Don't even think I'd be interested in Nick playing on the beach either, I'd rather be in the shade and cool somewhere :) I sound old lol

I would love to write a crossover fic, or read one if it was about something I love (like Walking Dead, Supernatural).  I did my own crossover one on here years ago with Supernatural.  I quite like the idea of setting them in a historical romance, like Pride & Prejudice meets BSB.

Well, there ya go, Steph! If you decide to do Cancun, i'll be your hangout buddy. LOL

I even had trouble with Supernatural. I did a one-shot Supernatural story and was surprised at how hard it was for me.
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #47 on: May 13, 2024, 09:15:37 PM »

I keep saying I'm going to get back into writing and then don't do anything about it lol.  I've had ideas, I just can't seem to motivate myself to write anything.  It's been so long.

The Cancun event sounds like only the actual concert would appeal.  I wouldn't be interested in watching Howie do shots, or Kevin DJ either.  Don't even think I'd be interested in Nick playing on the beach either, I'd rather be in the shade and cool somewhere :) I sound old lol

I would love to write a crossover fic, or read one if it was about something I love (like Walking Dead, Supernatural).  I did my own crossover one on here years ago with Supernatural.  I quite like the idea of setting them in a historical romance, like Pride & Prejudice meets BSB.

I wish you would get back into writing, Steph!  I'm sure it's easier said than done, especially after it's been so long.  Maybe start small with a one-shot or something.  A crossover could be fun, too.  Mare, how did you get back into it?

The concerts were definitely the best part of Cancun!  Most of the other events were hot and hard to see unless you got there super early to get a good spot, which would mean being even hotter and more crowded.  I wish they would go back to cruises instead.  The cruises were better - not as big/crowded, not as hot, and the guys were more accessible.  But it was their first time doing this, so hopefully the organizers will take the feedback they got and find ways to improve it for next time, if there is a next time.
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2024, 09:21:39 PM »

Did you not enjoy the cursed child? I never read that one. I don't think I'd ever try an Only Murders one, because of the fact that I'm not all that comfortable with that fandom, but a murder mystery might be fun. I read a novel called Everyone in My Family has Killed Someone which I thoroughly enjoyed, and it was a great murder mystery and hilarious. The author breaks the fourth wall a lot. I am thinking of trying a story like that perhaps. you should check that novel out, it was great. I just found out they're making it into a MAX series. I can totally see Kieran playing the lead.

I have mixed feelings on The Cursed Child.  It was entertaining enough, just reading to see where it went, but it was glorified fanfic.  J.K. Rowling approved it but didn't actually write it herself, and that was very apparent.  Some of the characters were written way out of character, and some of the plot points were so random and weird.  The play is coming to Chicago later this year, and I'm not sure if I want to see it or not.  But the main reason I say it "ruined" my crossover is that it included an idea I was planning for mine, and now I don't feel like writing it anymore LOL.  I dunno... it's one of those stories I haven't officially discontinued but haven't actively tried working on in years.  Maybe someday.

A murder mystery does sound like a fun challenge!  I'll have to check out that novel.
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2024, 10:01:24 AM »

I got back into writing mainly because of all the giant holes that needed filling in Succession. Not that there were major plot holes, but there were no flashback episodes or anything like that, so a lot of stuff was mentioned in passing as if we were privy to what happened and that kind of killed me, so I needed to create those stories. Plus, it was a wide-open ending, so what happens next was up for interpretation . That's what really got me back into it. The ideas were gnawing in my head for so long, that I HAD to write them to get them out.

I wish I had done that after watching the finale of Merlon a billion years ago. It never occurred to me that I could write the ending I pictured, and that people might want to actually read it. LOL
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2024, 10:07:16 AM »

That's interesting. I didn't realize that JK didn't write the Cursed Child. Isn't that play like really really long? I'm not sure I could sit through a play for more than 90 minutes. A musical, yes, but not a play. Ugh, that is annoying though when someone steals your idea, even though they didn't realize they did!

I'm having a writing fail today. I'm not really feeling the new one I'm writing just yet so haven't been able to focus on it, plus this is the first time in a while that I haven't been feeling all that great. It's probably the changing weather. It seems to really affect me. After this I'm probably going to go watch TV or something lol
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2024, 12:10:45 PM »

I got back into writing mainly because of all the giant holes that needed filling in Succession. Not that there were major plot holes, but there were no flashback episodes or anything like that, so a lot of stuff was mentioned in passing as if we were privy to what happened and that kind of killed me, so I needed to create those stories. Plus, it was a wide-open ending, so what happens next was up for interpretation . That's what really got me back into it. The ideas were gnawing in my head for so long, that I HAD to write them to get them out.

I wish I had done that after watching the finale of Merlon a billion years ago. It never occurred to me that I could write the ending I pictured, and that people might want to actually read it. LOL

That must be nice to have so much fresh inspiration and this whole new world to write about!  That's a credit to the Succession writers, too, for developing these characters with backstories worth exploring more.  And writing your own alternate ending is a great way to get into fanfic.

That's interesting. I didn't realize that JK didn't write the Cursed Child. Isn't that play like really really long? I'm not sure I could sit through a play for more than 90 minutes. A musical, yes, but not a play. Ugh, that is annoying though when someone steals your idea, even though they didn't realize they did!

Yeah, I don't think I realized either until I read it and looked into it more.  I'm surprised JKR signed off on it... but, then, she's done and said a lot of things that have surprised me in the last few years, and not in a good way.

I just looked up how long it is, and it's 3 and a half hours, which includes a 20-minute intermission.  That is pretty long, but I guess if it's entertaining enough, I could sit through anything.

It just goes to show that my idea was not very original.  It also came across super cringe the way it was written in Cursed Child, which made me less interested in following through with it in my own story.

I'm having a writing fail today. I'm not really feeling the new one I'm writing just yet so haven't been able to focus on it, plus this is the first time in a while that I haven't been feeling all that great. It's probably the changing weather. It seems to really affect me. After this I'm probably going to go watch TV or something lol


Aw, I hope you're feeling better by now!  That happens to me too - both the changing weather and the writing slumps.  It's hard to get into a new story.  Sometimes the first chapter or two go really well, and then it slows down, but sometimes it's a struggle from the first chapter and doesn't pick up until I get further into it.  I hope you get over that hump soon!
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2024, 09:09:29 AM »

Succession is known for its writing. They give us fanfic writers a lot to work with.

I know what you mean about JKR. I've been so disappointed to hear her thoughts on things. I hate when people you admire turn out to be giant douche bags!

I am feeling a bit better. The weather has been so drastic, it's in the upper 80's today and then it'll drop to the 40's and then back up again. Stupid climate change.

For me, the first few chapters are always more of a struggle then the end. It's getting into the rhythm I have trouble with sometimes. Once I get that, then the rest usually flows.
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2024, 02:03:13 PM »

Ugh, JKR.  I am disappointed in her, too.  She's entitled to her opinions, but I wish she would read the room, realize how much her words have hurt people, and apologize instead of continuing to act like a troll online.  I muted her on Twitter years ago so I wouldn't have to see her posts, but I still get wind of them whenever she's trending for tweeting something offensive.  I will always love Harry Potter, but she has completely tarnished her legacy with this anti-trans tirade, which seems so out-of-character for her, considering love and acceptance are such major themes of the series.  I don't understand it.  But I can separate the art from the artist.

I'm glad you're feeling better!  I hate those drastic weather changes, too.  It's like a roller coaster.  I'm always late to switch out my clothes for the next season because you never know when it's going to get cold or hot again.

Same here about the beginning vs. the end.  It's almost always harder for me to start a story than it is to finish it.  Sometimes I have slumps in the middle, but once I get to a certain point in a story, I know I'm still going to finish it eventually, even if it takes me a long time.
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2024, 02:16:45 PM »

Does anyone else do their writing on Google Docs?  They've had this AI feature that I got the option to beta test about a year ago.  I had fun playing with it a bit, giving it writing prompts to see what it would come up with, but I've never used it for my real writing.  The little stories it wrote reminded me of how I wrote as a kid - a lot of telling, not showing.  Plus, the writing, while technically proficient, comes across as very generic and soulless - just what you'd expect from something written by a computer and not a real human being.

Anyway, today when I opened my doc to write, I noticed a new sidebar on the right side of the screen called Gemini, which I guess is the new name for Google's AI tool.  It had a summary of the content of the first few chapters in the doc that was surprisingly correct and coherent.  I've been playing around with opening other stories and asking Gemini to summarize them, and it's crazy how quickly and accurately it can do it.  It does have its limitations - it can't seem to read poetry and only summarizes part of longer documents.  Still a cool tool, but also a little scary... 😳

Has anyone else played around with AI for writing or anything else?  Thoughts?
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2024, 09:46:45 AM »

Ugh, JKR.  I am disappointed in her, too.  She's entitled to her opinions, but I wish she would read the room, realize how much her words have hurt people, and apologize instead of continuing to act like a troll online.  I muted her on Twitter years ago so I wouldn't have to see her posts, but I still get wind of them whenever she's trending for tweeting something offensive.  I will always love Harry Potter, but she has completely tarnished her legacy with this anti-trans tirade, which seems so out-of-character for her, considering love and acceptance are such major themes of the series.  I don't understand it.  But I can separate the art from the artist.

I'm glad you're feeling better!  I hate those drastic weather changes, too.  It's like a roller coaster.  I'm always late to switch out my clothes for the next season because you never know when it's going to get cold or hot again.

Same here about the beginning vs. the end.  It's almost always harder for me to start a story than it is to finish it.  Sometimes I have slumps in the middle, but once I get to a certain point in a story, I know I'm still going to finish it eventually, even if it takes me a long time.

I hated reading all those things JKR was saying and you're right, reading her work and then seeing her actual beliefs made no sense to me. I felt like an entire underlying theme of those books was acceptance. I guess one thing those books were missing were the inclusion of any LBGTQ people though. So disappointing. I also tend to separate the people from their politics or beliefs as well. If I didn't, I don't think I'd have any friends lol
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« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2024, 09:52:12 AM »

Does anyone else do their writing on Google Docs?  They've had this AI feature that I got the option to beta test about a year ago.  I had fun playing with it a bit, giving it writing prompts to see what it would come up with, but I've never used it for my real writing.  The little stories it wrote reminded me of how I wrote as a kid - a lot of telling, not showing.  Plus, the writing, while technically proficient, comes across as very generic and soulless - just what you'd expect from something written by a computer and not a real human being.

Anyway, today when I opened my doc to write, I noticed a new sidebar on the right side of the screen called Gemini, which I guess is the new name for Google's AI tool.  It had a summary of the content of the first few chapters in the doc that was surprisingly correct and coherent.  I've been playing around with opening other stories and asking Gemini to summarize them, and it's crazy how quickly and accurately it can do it.  It does have its limitations - it can't seem to read poetry and only summarizes part of longer documents.  Still a cool tool, but also a little scary... 😳

Has anyone else played around with AI for writing or anything else?  Thoughts?

I've never really used Google docs. We used it at school. Everyone's iPads were linked to it and I used it that way, but never just for me. I stick with Word because that's what I've always used. I have never used AI for anything. I did notice that when I post onto AO3, occasionally if I stay on a button too long or hit the wrong one with my sausage fingers, sometimes a prompt will come up saying let chatGPT fix this for you. No thanks! One day Mersey and I were playing around with the chat feature. More her then me. We were talking about how some of the writing on sites like reddit seem like the stories are all generically written so I was giving her prompts, and she was putting them into the AI and then short stories were coming up. LOL Like you said, it was accurate when it came to summarizing but it was also flat and definitely made by computer. I'm just glad that as a teacher, I don't have to deal with that. Do you have kids trying to use AI to pass off as their own? I would think 4th grade is still young to try that crap, but you never know.
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Re: Just a general pop in thread
« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2024, 05:16:44 PM »

I guess one thing those books were missing were the inclusion of any LBGTQ people though.

Well, not directly.  But then she came out with all that "behind the scenes" stuff after the fact, like that Dumbledore was gay all along.  I'd like to think that, if that series had been written a decade or two later, she would have included a gay relationship or two along with the straight ones, but that would have been pretty controversial for a children's book series in the 90s and early 2000s.

I also tend to separate the people from their politics or beliefs as well. If I didn't, I don't think I'd have any friends lol

LOL Thankfully, my family and close friends are all pretty liberal, but I do have to separate the two when it comes to coworkers.  I unfollowed so many coworkers and acquaintances on Facebook during Trump's presidency so I could still maintain some shred of respect for them.
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« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2024, 05:37:22 PM »

I've never really used Google docs. We used it at school. Everyone's iPads were linked to it and I used it that way, but never just for me. I stick with Word because that's what I've always used. I have never used AI for anything. I did notice that when I post onto AO3, occasionally if I stay on a button too long or hit the wrong one with my sausage fingers, sometimes a prompt will come up saying let chatGPT fix this for you. No thanks! One day Mersey and I were playing around with the chat feature. More her then me. We were talking about how some of the writing on sites like reddit seem like the stories are all generically written so I was giving her prompts, and she was putting them into the AI and then short stories were coming up. LOL Like you said, it was accurate when it came to summarizing but it was also flat and definitely made by computer. I'm just glad that as a teacher, I don't have to deal with that. Do you have kids trying to use AI to pass off as their own? I would think 4th grade is still young to try that crap, but you never know.

Google Docs is a decent Word substitute.  I like that it saves automatically and is accessible from anywhere, so I no longer have to worry about saving docs to flash drives to move between my desktop and laptop.  The biggest downside I've encountered is that it has a word count limit.  My super long stories literally won't fit in one document on Google LOL.  But I don't even have Word anymore, so it's either that or Open Office.

Thankfully, my 4th graders are too young try using AI.  The most they do is plagiarize by copy/pasting directly from the internet, which is painfully obvious.  But I feel for teachers of older students.  I think it would be hard to detect and even harder to prove, since you can input the same prompt and get a different result each time.

The toolbar keeps popping up each time I open my story, so this time, I let it come up with a list of suggestions.  One of the suggestions was: "The sentence beginning with "The tiny bra top showed plenty of cleavage..." could be rephrased to be less sexually suggestive."  Considering that sentence was in a sex scene, I'd say being sexually suggestive was the point LOL.  It also finds my use of medical terminology in a hospital scene  "vulgar" and thinks some of my sentences are too wordy.  The last part is probably true, but otherwise, I'll take its advice with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2024, 09:34:18 AM »

Well, not directly.  But then she came out with all that "behind the scenes" stuff after the fact, like that Dumbledore was gay all along.  I'd like to think that, if that series had been written a decade or two later, she would have included a gay relationship or two along with the straight ones, but that would have been pretty controversial for a children's book series in the 90s and early 2000s.

LOL Thankfully, my family and close friends are all pretty liberal, but I do have to separate the two when it comes to coworkers.  I unfollowed so many coworkers and acquaintances on Facebook during Trump's presidency so I could still maintain some shred of respect for them.

I have a fair number of friends and distant family who are republicans, but thankfully most of them are quiet about it. The ones who are the most vocal I keep snoozing, so they can see my posts, but I can't see theirs lol
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