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NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
Teri:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on October 07, 2007, 04:51:53 PM ---You're compring fanfic to Ivy League Universities? I personally got rejected from an Ivy League University, Yale if you wanted to specific one... Applying to an Ivy League University is in another league than writing a fanfic.
I'm assuiming that the reason you started writing fanfic is because you enjoyed it, not for your future or if you wanted readers. If you started writing fanfic just to get readers, then you're lacking in what the essence of it is. If you started writing for yourself, then you should be appreciative that the number of people who read your work do in fact read it.
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You totally didn't even get my meaning. It's the elitest attitude. No I didn't start writing for recognition but you know what other stories that have been recognized, mine are just as good as theirs and I'm just upset that mine won't be recognized because someone believes they're so righteous and can tell that a story isn't good just because of the genre or the rating. that's the TRUE ivory towerism in this. If you like the genre I like ooh then you get to be recognized and put on a pedestal. That's how it makes us feel.
Tri:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on October 07, 2007, 04:51:53 PM ---You're compring fanfic to Ivy League Universities? I personally got rejected from an Ivy League University, Yale if you wanted to specific one... Applying to an Ivy League University is in another league than writing a fanfic.
I'm assuiming that the reason you started writing fanfic is because you enjoyed it, not for your future or if you wanted readers. If you started writing fanfic just to get readers, then you're lacking in what the essence of it is. If you started writing for yourself, then you should be appreciative that the number of people who read your work do in fact read it.
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That's not what we're saying... Or at least not what I'M saying. (Teri's speaking for herself, obviously.)
I've been writing since I COULD write. Short stories, novels, plays, poetry, et cetera... The work I post online is all Nick Carter fan fiction. I write primarily for myself - to let out feelings, express ideas, and for enjoyment. I write from experiences I've had. I write about things I enjoy. My main female characters are usually based off of me (in the Hearts Don't Lie series, the female lead is almost EXACTLY like me).
I'm very appreciative of the readers I have, don't get me wrong. I'm just trying to break down the stereotype, like I said. If I don't get anymore readers out of it, that's fine. I just don't think it's fair to be put in a category like untouchables rather than be evaluated for the level of literature I write. THAT'S the point I'm trying to make.
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: Teri on October 07, 2007, 04:52:57 PM ---I've read your stories (and i promise i'll review eventually) and normally i don't like fantasy fan fic but you know i gave it a chance and i was pleasantly surprised! And you know if I hadn't I would have missed out on some particularly good writing because i stepped out of my comfort zone and decided, you know what screw my comfort zone I need to try something new! And it's people's unwillingness to even give a story a chance is just what's pissin' us all off. I've read stories where Nick gets sick and normally no I don't like them but in the instance of BMS it works and is an amazing story and I found that out because I put my ascinine thoughts aside and made up my own mind by finding out for myself what the story is like instead of "OMG NICK GETS CANCER EWW!" or "omg there's sex in this story and it's in more than one chapter ew!" it's all about saying "okay i know how i feel about this genre but maybe this story will change my mind about that"
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Unfortunately, the majority of fanfic readers want a certain type of story where they get the ending they want with the characters they like included.
You can be outraged if you like, but the fact is, it probably won't change anything.
Backstreet Boys fanfic has at least a decade of foundation. What's popular is generally static. That's just the way it is.
Tri:
--- Quote from: Teri on October 07, 2007, 04:58:37 PM ---
You totally didn't even get my meaning. It's the elitest attitude. No I didn't start writing for recognition but you know what other stories that have been recognized, mine are just as good as theirs and I'm just upset that mine won't be recognized because someone believes they're so righteous and can tell that a story isn't good just because of the genre or the rating. that's the TRUE ivory towerism in this. If you like the genre I like ooh then you get to be recognized and put on a pedestal. That's how it makes us feel.
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Yeah, I'm not trying to get readers either. That isn't what this is about. I just want people to stop ASSUMING what my story is about without reading it. I'm trying to enlighten people for the good of all writers.
Teri:
Really all we're trying to do is break the stereotype placed on us by another thread. The stereotype created by people who have NO idea what the genre is all about. Or would even get off their high horse of elitest-ness and give a story out of their comfort zone a chance. Its ignorance and it's assuming something that's true for a small portion of the genre but not all. And you know what happens when you assume something.
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