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NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
Tri:
--- Quote from: Teri on October 07, 2007, 05:16:05 PM ---I'm a firm believer in reading everything I can get my hands on, and after I've seen the quality of writing then I make my decision. I don't write fantasy cuz yeah I'd totally suck at it, I don't have the talent for it. I write, comedy, drama, angst romance fics because it's what I know that I can write those and have it come out the way I desire it to be.
I'll give you a prime example of how prejudging something before you even try to give it a chance makes you ignorant.
I had all these preconceived notions when I first started writing about what a fic should be. However when I started posting on fiction-girl.org back in the day I was quick to realize how wrong I was. There are millions of ways and ideas to write with. Some have been used before some haven't. It's all in what you make of it. And yes there's no excuse for poor writing but that's not what we're complaining about. We're disheartened that our hard work and dedication to the craft get bashed because we write in a genre or rating that certain people refuse to even give a chance to. And it's those certain people who decide who gets recognized. And honestly that's like saying you're not good enough writer without even have read a THING they've written. Or saying "I won't read Stephen King because he writes horror" yeah it's a personal preference and thats ok but why deprive yourself of finding a good story or maybe even saying "you know it's better than i thought it would be."
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Very well said, Teri! You don't know if you like something until you try it, I always say. Or until you read it, in this case.
People like having their comfort zones, I know that. I also know that people can be intimidated by reading certain things at first for whatever reason (fear of the unknown, perhaps). I've even known people that don't like to read things that they know they don't have a talent for writing about. But please, those of you reading this, don't judge an entire genre before you DO take the time to read the individual stories.
Chaos:
--- Quote from: Teri on October 07, 2007, 04:44:20 PM ---Yeah that's exactly what we're outraged about, that certain people won't even give us a chance because they're too elitest and judgemental to even try something that maybe out of their comfort zone. Honestly that's like saying "oh you've got the grades and the talent to go to harvard law school, but ohh you're not good enough." it's Ivory towerism and it's unfair and not right. There shouldn't be a featured story of the month or awards IF everyone can't be in the running because of a few select people with prejudices making the decisions.
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Okay, not trying to argue with you because I agree that people shouldn't assume things about a story just because of it's rating. But I think you also need to keep in mind that this is a site that is intended for people of all ages, so we in general do not feature NC-17 stories because that means that those who are under age are not allowed to read and discuss the stories--and yes I *have* had parents contact me about this. I have had to argue with numerous people about whether or not I should even have NC17 stories on the site at all. I fight for the right of ya'll to keep posting. In fact it's part of the reason I started this site in the first place--fanfiction.net decided at one point that they would not allow any NC-17 stories at all, so I opened this site for a place where those who wrote them would still have a place to write, and those who read them can still have a place to read.
There is a reason why we don't generally feature NC-17 fics. It's not because they're not good enough to be featured, it's because the featured stories are being discussed and we have lots of people in the discussions that are underage.
So please keep that in mind when you're getting upset about NC-17 not being featured. If you want to post an alternate R-Rated version to be featured at the same time so that younger readers can join in without me potentially getting my rear chewed out by a parent, by all means I welcome you to do so.
(And just so you know, they will be considered for any awards, etc. Just not for the Story of the Month/Featured Discussions...)
Teri:
Brilliantly put Jamanda! Thank you for your input!!
Teri:
--- Quote from: Chaos on October 07, 2007, 05:21:15 PM ---Okay, not trying to argue with you because I agree that people shouldn't assume things about a story just because of it's rating. But I think you also need to keep in mind that this is a site that is intended for people of all ages, so we in general do not feature NC-17 stories because that means that those who are under age are not allowed to read and discuss the stories--and yes I *have* had parents contact me about this. I have had to argue with numerous people about whether or not I should even have NC17 stories on the site at all. I fight for the right of ya'll to keep posting. In fact it's part of the reason I started this site in the first place--fanfiction.net decided at one point that they would not allow any NC-17 stories at all, so I opened this site for a place where those who wrote them would still have a place to write, and those who read them can still have a place to read.
There is a reason why we don't generally feature NC-17 fics. It's not because they're not good enough to be featured, it's because the featured stories are being discussed and we have lots of people in the discussions that are underage.
So please keep that in mind when you're getting upset about NC-17 not being featured. If you want to post an alternate R-Rated version to be featured at the same time so that younger readers can join in without me potentially getting my rear chewed out by a parent, by all means I welcome you to do so.
(And just so you know, they will be considered for any awards, etc. Just not for the Story of the Month/Featured Discussions...)
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No offense I really see your point but why are you letting parents tell you what should be on your site? That's simply ridiculous. It's yours and our first amendment rights to post whatever we want, if they don't like it, put a parental block on the site. Catering to the whims of people who don't even know what the site is about is simply irresponsible to the authors that post here which without us you wouldn't have a site to begin with.
Teri:
Chaos have you even read any NC-17 stories on your site? Like mine or Tris? for example? I'm assuming not because then you'd actually see that we focus more on plot than what your preconceived notions of NC-17 stories are. Maybe you need to open your mind a bit and see for yourself instead of assuming one thing and insulting other people's writing.
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