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Title: The no copy cats club
Post by: mare on April 22, 2012, 05:30:41 PM
Just thought I'd open a thread if anyone wanted to comment on the plaigerizing thing. it's funny because I said to Julilly how surprised I was that no one was commenting on it not realizing that the thread was locked lol so, there ya go. Not that there's all that much to
Say :/
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: Sakabelle on April 22, 2012, 05:47:14 PM
I got a lot of my bitching about it out on twitter! lol
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: FrickingKaos on April 22, 2012, 07:58:22 PM
I vented a bit on twitter as well, but I told my friend about the plagiarism and she was shocked. She was reading the story....she's one of those people who reads and doesn't review. But she was upset when she found out the girl has copied the story word for word. I am appalled people even do this because (not to say writing fanfic is easy) but if you have an imagination, there is no reason why someone couldn't make up their own. Stealing in any shape or form to me is wrong.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 22, 2012, 10:28:48 PM
I can't believe people still do this... especially here, when we've made such a huge deal about it before.  I really don't understand it.  I can understand how laziness and lack of creativity/work ethic could prompt someone to steal someone else's story rather than write their own, but I don't understand how anyone could think that's okay or feel any sort of pride in the reviews they receive for a story someone else wrote.  The whole thing is just appalling.  I'm glad she was caught, and I hope people who enjoyed the stories will take a moment to let the real writers know and continue to follow them on Fictionpress.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: Sakabelle on April 22, 2012, 11:48:15 PM
I saw that one of the original authors took her story down off fictionpress because of this. Really sad that being of morons like this, things like that have to happen. I'd be so angry if anyone ever ripped my stuff off like that. What do you get out of getting reviews for something you didn't write? Oooh yay, you learned how to use find/replace! Congratulation s!
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: mare on April 23, 2012, 05:46:18 AM
I was going to come in and mention that one of the authors took her stuff off the site. I feel bad for her. It sucks when people copy your stuff. What makes it worse is this girl is by no means dumb, which they usually are. Just reading the replies to her 'reviews' and how she did take the time to actually change all names etc... says she was really calculating in doing this. She knew it was wrong and tried really hard to cover it up. Add to it, her brilliant reply to us when she was caught, no remorse or sadness or I promise I won't do it again but a F you and your stupid site lol sums it up. I just hope she doesn't try to do it again somewhere else. There always is that I Heart Horses place! I can't remember the name of the band lmao
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 23, 2012, 06:29:50 AM
Haha, Refresh... Busted and McFly!  Yeah, I hope this chick doesn't become the next Tanja.  How classy of her with that reply, by the way.  I guess that just shows the complete lack of creativity that caused her to steal other people's stories instead of come up with her own.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: mare on April 23, 2012, 06:45:12 AM
Refresh! God, why can't I ever remember that lol
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: VeeLynn on April 23, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
I don't read, so I would have no idea if anyone was stealing what I wrote. Plus I write romance who would steal that shit.  :shrug: :D
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 23, 2012, 05:39:04 PM
I used to Google lines of stories periodically to make sure Tanja wasn't back to her evil ways.  I'm sure she's plagiarizing something somewhere, but I think she's learned not to mess with the BSB fandom anymore.  We're onto her!
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: mare on April 23, 2012, 06:11:49 PM
When people want to steal they will steal anything. Tanja plaigerized pretty much any genre you can think of and in this past case, all three of these were original fictions. I don't get it and never will lol plaigerists boggle my mind.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 23, 2012, 06:24:07 PM
I can only imagine these writers' reactions when they found out this chick copied their stories, replaced their original characters with the Backstreet Boys, and reposted them as BSB fanfics.  That's even worse than Tanja replacing our boys with Busted and McFly.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: rachel21 on April 24, 2012, 11:38:25 PM
I can't believe she showed no remorse. That pisses me off even more.I knew something was off with her stories and didn't want to believe it. I even tried googling Better Late Than Never because I had a feeling something was amiss (Nicks eye color would go from amber to blue) But it wasn't until I was reading Red Backpack that realized that her writing wasn't consistent. You know what through me off? The fact that god was censored. Given the nature of the other stories it totally confused me. So I searched Red Backpack and it was the first thing that came up on google search. Now I did think that she might have changed her alias and character names but I looked up Better Late Than Never on the same site and there it was, by a different author. SMH. I'm just glad that I got to tell the original author that I loved her story. And that I wasn't going crazy. LOL
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: Carter-Orange on April 25, 2012, 02:52:52 PM
I really don't understand people who steal other people's work and try to pass it off as their own.  I feel sorry for the real author feeling the need to take her story down because of some stupid girl.  And for her to show no remorse either just shows what kind of person she is.

If people can't think of their own story then they shouldn't write!

I think being inspired by something you've seen/read is different though.  I've read some Twilight fanfics in the past which were better stories than the Stephenie Meyer ones!  I've also got a story I'm currently writing which is inspired by lots of films I've seen over the years, and also real life stories. 
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: mare on April 25, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Yeah, I don't understand it either. I mean even if you live someone's story you could always just ask them if it's ok if they turn it into a bsb story. You never know, they might say yes, but to just steal it and claim it as your own is just so weird to me. It has to be some kind of illness.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: Carter-Orange on April 25, 2012, 03:27:31 PM
Maybe they just get enjoyment from fooling readers? 

I remember the first fanfic I wrote on a Take That site...this girl PM'd me and asked if she could copy - word for word - a few paragraphs of my story!  I was kind of horrified and shocked but what could I say?  I wanted to tell her to write her own damn story, but I'm too polite lol.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 25, 2012, 05:12:34 PM
It's one thing to be inspired by someone else's story, a book, a movie, a TV show, or whatever.  As long as you put your own spin on the idea and write it in your own way, it's fine.  No idea is truly original.  It's when you're literally copying or paraphrasing someone else's words without crediting them that you're plagiarizing.  I don't see how anyone can do that and think it's okay.

That's so weird that someone would ask if she could copy your story, Steph LOL.  I mean, at least she asked instead of just doing it, but why would she want to do that in the first place?  Just write your own words!!
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: Carter-Orange on April 26, 2012, 01:03:56 AM
I know, it was really weird!
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: Purpura Lipstick on April 26, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
Even though I used the idea from the movie Timers I put a note in my story. I mean it was a non blockbuster movie that I watched on Netflix but the idea was not mine so I have to credit it. 

I can't believe people don't credit others intellectual property. 

My husband has to apply to work on programming jobs with his company.  Part of what he does is THEIR intellectual property... LOL he cant work on anything similar, though that's also conflict of interest but yah they also use the phrasing intellectual property when it comes to my husbands brain!
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 26, 2012, 06:08:24 PM
I don't think it's a big deal to base a fanfic on a movie, as long as you credit the movie for the idea.  I see that as a form of fanfic itself.  As long as you're not making money off it, not a big deal.  But taking actual lines from a script and passing them off as your own is the same as copying someone else's story and using find/replace to change the characters' names.  Either way, it's stealing.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: twofaced on June 10, 2012, 04:45:06 PM
I don't think it's a big deal to base a fanfic on a movie, as long as you credit the movie for the idea.  I see that as a form of fanfic itself.  As long as you're not making money off it, not a big deal.  But taking actual lines from a script and passing them off as your own is the same as copying someone else's story and using find/replace to change the characters' names.  Either way, it's stealing.

So then what do you think of 50 shades of grey? She tried to pass it off as original until someone said "Nope, I read the fanfic version" and now she's making money off of something that was really, truly, someone else's idea. Add to that, Stephenie Meyer herself has been quoted as saying "Don't write fanfic on my stuff, they were my ideas, use your own."

Just curious ;)
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 10, 2012, 05:09:14 PM
This came up in the 50 Shades of Grey thread, but I think the fact that the fanfic was originally AU (from what I've heard) makes it more acceptable than if she had taken a canon Twilight fanfic, with vampires and werewolves and that whole universe Stephenie Meyer had created, and published it as a work of original fiction.  Instead, what she has is an original storyline with characters inspired by Stephenie Meyer's characters, but not the exact same.

I think with BSB fanfic authors, it would be the same way - you'd have more luck getting an AU published than you would a canon BSB story, because it would be hard to pass a canon story off as an original fic without rewriting it to get rid of all the boyband stuff.  You could still have the guys be a band, but you'd be walking a fine line not to make it completely obvious.
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: twofaced on June 10, 2012, 09:06:03 PM
This came up in the 50 Shades of Grey thread, but I think the fact that the fanfic was originally AU (from what I've heard) makes it more acceptable than if she had taken a canon Twilight fanfic, with vampires and werewolves and that whole universe Stephenie Meyer had created, and published it as a work of original fiction.  Instead, what she has is an original storyline with characters inspired by Stephenie Meyer's characters, but not the exact same.

I think with BSB fanfic authors, it would be the same way - you'd have more luck getting an AU published than you would a canon BSB story, because it would be hard to pass a canon story off as an original fic without rewriting it to get rid of all the boyband stuff.  You could still have the guys be a band, but you'd be walking a fine line not to make it completely obvious.

Thanks for letting me pick your brain ;)
Title: Re: The no copy cats club
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 10, 2012, 10:15:07 PM
Sure!  I can't judge this author for reworking a fanfic to get it published because I'd love to do the same thing LOL.  But it would only work with certain storylines, and it takes extra effort to make it not seem like a fanfic.