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Fic Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: RokofAges75 on September 06, 2010, 06:53:29 PM
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I was just skimming through the first page of recent updates on AC and realized that, of the 15 stories there at the time of my posting this (all Bsb fics), 9 of them are stories about the Boys' fictional siblings or children. Is that the new trend? LOL
I guess the sibling thing is nothing new; I've been reading fanfic for 11 years, and the stories about long-lost sisters were around then, too. It's just funny all these stories are popping up at the same time. Are we bored with writing about the Boys themselves, so we're inventing fictional family members to write about instead?
It's interesting to see trends like that pop up in fanfic. I wonder if everyone got the same idea at the same time, or if they're inspired by each other or the Boys having kids in real life, or what.
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I gotta say I've noticed it too lol. And it makes you wonder cause in these, the kids are the main focus. It's not about Nick or Brian, etc dealing with being a backstreet dad. Instead, it's about the kid dealing with being a backstreet kid, and they're the main focus.
It looks like it's a trend cause it's been all over the most recent pages lately lol. To each their own, but for me, it's odd. I dunno, I read fanfic to read about the Boys as the focus. Not so much to read about their made up family LOL.
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Hey, whatever floats your boat. I just thought it was interesting that there were so many like that on the same page.
(Though, personally, I'd rather read stories about the Boys themselves, too.)
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I've said it before and i'll say it again. It's Backstreet Boys fanfiction. Everything else I poo poo :plugears: <-- me poo pooing lol
Nah, seriously not sure why trends happen. When Baylee was born there was an influx of kiddie stories.
At least they're not all joining a mini BSB band (or are they? lol)
It seems like there's turn around for everything. Maybe when this trend dies out writing about the actual boys will come back. Maybe? Hopefully? lol
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I'd love for writing about the actual Boys to come back. That would be nice lol. But hey, whatever people love to do. Writing is for yourself, rather than others. So if that's what people dig... whatever lol. I'll just look for what floats my boat.
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That's what I do too. I know exactly what I like when it comes to reading fanfic so when I see a story that catches my eye I get all excited.
Diet Coke floats my boat! lol
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I noticed that trend too.
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The only non-slash story I have written that dose not bring a fictional character into play is: whip it good.
99.9% of everything I have ever written deals with either a fictional character or false information such as Kevin being Nick and Aaron's father.
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The only non-slash story I have written that dose not bring a fictional character into play is: whip it good.
99.9% of everything I have ever written deals with either a fictional character or false information such as Kevin being Nick and Aaron's father.
Most of us use fictional characters, I don't think that's what they mean. Original characters are used in probably 99% of fanfic (the other 1% being anything written by Mare :P).
At one point in fanfic trends most stories featured a BSB as the main character, then slowly original characters started becoming the focal points of stories with the BSB as supporting characters. Like most trends that did start to switch back and I'd say now it's a split between people who use a Backstreeter as the main character and those who don't.
But the new trend seems to be not making the story about the BSB at all. It's told from the perspective of an original character, featuring all original characters, with the only BSB connection being that of a parent.
I believe it can be done well but in order to legitimately say it's fanfic it needs to be about the Backstreet Boys with their children as the supporting characters. The trend seems to be the opposite which, in some stories, wouldn't come close to being fanfic. You can't write fanfic about someone you made up.
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Ok so I guess what I mean is that most of my stories focus on the fictional characters and those characters are almost always the children. Ive never done a classic romance story with a bsb guy. Uncle Daddy comes close. You can look at my "backstreet dads" series and see what My common trend is. I've always written stories based on a child of bsb.
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I've noticed a lot which aren't really about the boys. I've never clicked to read an Aaron story because I don't know anything about him and he doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose he does to others. Same with Backstreet kids, I'm not too bothered about them either, but I am keeping up with Kristal's story 'Life According to Baylee' which is really good.
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I've noticed a lot which aren't really about the boys. I've never clicked to read an Aaron story because I don't know anything about him and he doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose he does to others. Same with Backstreet kids, I'm not too bothered about them either, but I am keeping up with Kristal's story 'Life According to Baylee' which is really good.
that makes me laugh because I add Aaron in my stuff a lot but honest I dont know much about him either!
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Most of us use fictional characters, I don't think that's what they mean. Original characters are used in probably 99% of fanfic (the other 1% being anything written by Mare :P).
At one point in fanfic trends most stories featured a BSB as the main character, then slowly original characters started becoming the focal points of stories with the BSB as supporting characters. Like most trends that did start to switch back and I'd say now it's a split between people who use a Backstreeter as the main character and those who don't.
But the new trend seems to be not making the story about the BSB at all. It's told from the perspective of an original character, featuring all original characters, with the only BSB connection being that of a parent.
I believe it can be done well but in order to legitimately say it's fanfic it needs to be about the Backstreet Boys with their children as the supporting characters. The trend seems to be the opposite which, in some stories, wouldn't come close to being fanfic. You can't write fanfic about someone you made up.
LOL yay to my 1%!! :) I wonder if that means that technically those stories that aren't really considered BSB fanic should not be nominated for the awards? Because technically they are fanfic awards and if the lead isn't one of the people featured in a fandom wouldn't that disqualify the story? Just thinking out loud.
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LOL yay to my 1%!! :) I wonder if that means that technically those stories that aren't really considered BSB fanic should not be nominated for the awards? Because technically they are fanfic awards and if the lead isn't one of the people featured in a fandom wouldn't that disqualify the story? Just thinking out loud.
That's a really really good point. I mean there's an original fiction category, if people want to nominate them there. Because lets face it, in a story if it's about a fictional character as the focus, that's not really fanfiction now is it? I mean if it's all about the story of a fictional child of a Backstreet Boy, and the Backstreet Boy is not who the story is about at all... well that's not fanfic.
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LOL I was kind of half kidding because seriously there would only be a handful of stories that would qualify, but it really does raise that question.
I have been saying for years and years that it's not fanfic unless it's about one or more of the boys. Or whatever the fandom you write, if it's not about those people then it's not really fanfic but more original fic.
It's a good debatable topic but for everyone who is now panicking about their noms, don't lol Like I said, I was just kidding...for now anyway.
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I know, I just feel like that's a really good point lol. I mean supporting characters or sveral main characters (and say one or two are fictional, and one or two are BSBs) are cool. Cause like Julilly said, fictional characters are gonna pop up, it's natural. I just don't feel like it's fanfic if there's not even one Backstreet Boy as a main character.
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I agree lol
It would be a good debate topic. If i'm feeling non lazy and motivated i'll make a new thread for it in the debate section later.
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That's a good point about main characters vs. supporting. Honestly, I haven't read any of the stories I was noticing on the recent updates because I'm not interested in reading about fictional kids or fictional sisters, so I don't know about those ones specifically; they might have a nice balance between Backstreet Boys and made-up characters. But I agree that at least one Backstreet Boy should be a MAIN character if it's to be considered a BSB fanfic.
I include fictional characters in my stories, but they are always either supporting characters or, in the case of a romance, a female lead balanced equally with the lead Backstreet Boy, and when I read, I want the stories to be mostly focused on the Boy(s) too.
There's nothing wrong with writing stories about made-up kids or sisters; AC is a place for all fandoms and original fics, too. I was just pointing out, I'm surprised by how MANY like this are popping up all of a sudden. I do hope the trend shifts back to Backstreet-centered fics, but that's just my personal preference.
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I do want to say that I also do put in original characters, they just are never leads and are always supporting characters. LOL
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I haven't noticed before but now that it's mentioned and I checked, I do.
Many stuff float my boat. I don't mind fictional sisters, kids, wives/girlfriends (although I've never read a fanfic about a long lost sister or something lol). But I also like to read fanfics that are especially centered on one or more Backstreet Boys. The type of story doesn't matter to me; romance, drama, fantasy, suspense, AU. All is fine by me, as long as it's well written and the storyline/plot is good.
I just noticed I'm not participating in this trend. I'm busy with two fanfics atm. One is in the POVs of a female lead and Nick and the other is in the POVs of AJ and Nick. I don't know if I should be happy about this or not. I don't know if it's also a trend to read about fictional sisters and kids, and reading fanfics which are only, for example, Nick-centered and no fictional sisters and kids are "out"? Lol.. 'cause my amount of reviews isn't that many. Maybe the interest for those types of fanfics isn't that big right now? :shrug: If that is the reason for my lack of reviews, I sure hope this trend will die down a bit. ;)
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I always write fictional wives and girlfriends into my stories because I don't feel right writing the real ones (nothing against other people writing them though, I just don't do it myself).
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I always write fictional wives and girlfriends into my stories because I don't feel right writing the real ones (nothing against other people writing them though, I just don't do it myself).
Same here. Always write fictional wives/girlfriends but don't mind reading fanfics that include the real ones. :)
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I always write fictional wives and girlfriends into my stories because I don't feel right writing the real ones (nothing against other people writing them though, I just don't do it myself).
For sure, but would you ever write a fic ABOUT a fictional wife without having the BSB as a main character?
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For sure, but would you ever write a fic ABOUT a fictional wife without having the BSB as a main character?
Exactly, I get the use of fictional wives or girlfriends or kids. It's when it's about them without BSB as a main character that gets me all weirded out lol. For me personally, anyway.
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I don't really understand it either. I mean I write my fair share of romance and include original characters, but I have problems writing anything that doesn't star Nick as a main character. I wonder if it is almost a transitioning thing. It might be easier to write an original fiction if you still have BSB there and pop up sometimes, but it's mainly original fiction. That way they're almost there as a crutch, and could be easily removed if the author wanted to make it a true original fiction. I think that's what I would do if I were to ever attempt to write an original novel.
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I always write fictional wives and girlfriends into my stories because I don't feel right writing the real ones (nothing against other people writing them though, I just don't do it myself).
I couldn't use real wives/girlfriends for my Of Love and Time story, it didn't feel right to use them in the storylines I have so I made them up. They are essential to the plots, but the story isn't about them.
I will write the real ones at times. Say for instance, if my story is about Nick and he visits Brian, Leighanne would be there and maybe pipe up a line or two. IF I was writing about Brian, Leighanne would not be his wife or his girlfriend. If that makes any sense :)
But yah, I don't mind stories that do have them.
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We're kind of veering off from the point. The question is not the use of fictional characters. We all use fictional characters in stories otherwise it would be very challenging to come up with original plots. We don't all need to provide examples of original characters in individual stories.
The debate is whether or not it's still BSB fanfiction when the main character is not a Backstreet Boy.
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And the answer would be no, it's not lol And I am always right :)
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And the answer would be no, it's not lol And I am always right :)
And I agree with Mare! LOL
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And I agree with Mare! LOL
And, I agree with both!
I do have a couple of stories that focus more on an original character(s) but I include in it that is original/fanfiction cause the boys are in it and a big part of the story, but it's not my focus.
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For sure, but would you ever write a fic ABOUT a fictional wife without having the BSB as a main character?
No, because to me that wouldn't be a BSB fanfic. It would be original fiction if made up characters are the main focus of the story and BSB only get a mention.
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No, because to me that wouldn't be a BSB fanfic. It would be original fiction if made up characters are the main focus of the story and BSB only get a mention.
What is bsb is a major part in the story but they are not the main focus?
for example...
It's told in Nick's wife's pov but its the story of her coping with his crazy life.
so he would be in it allot but he would not be the main person.
Would it still be bsb fan fiction? simply because they have a major part in it. I would say so.
Personally anything where any bsb member has a big part in it in my book is bsb fan fiction.
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I think what everyone means is that as long as BSB are in it and are main characters along with the other characters, then it's BSB fiction. If it's about someone else and one of the guys is only mentioned in conversation, it's more original fiction.
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I dunno, I have to say I disagree with most everyone. I think that if BSB are characters in it, then it's a fanfic. I think it should be considered fanfic if there's any question of legality issues if the book were to be published.
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I've read books where they mention someone famous within the story, but it's not fanfic.
I guess as long as people are enjoying what they are reading/writing, then it doesn't matter at the end of the day.
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But I'm not talking about just a mention of the famous person. I'm talking about them being a character. Even someone like Leighanne.... she has fans, so I think it's still considered fanfic.
But like you said, Steph, it really doesn't matter.
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I don't know it's kind of like those movies where they say starring Leo Dicaprio! (or any genereic big movie star) and everyone goes to see the movie and it turns out Leo is only in it for 30 seconds. If I went to go see the movie because I thought it was a Leo movie and he wasn't really the focal point, i'd be pissed. Would you still consider that a Leo movie? Even if he was only in it for 30 seconds? I know I wouldn't.
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I would consider it Backstreet Boys fanfic if the fact that the original character was related to a backstreet boy was important. If say, Howie was just their parent and Howie could just as easily be replaced with an average joe with minimal impact to the overall plot then I would say it's not BSB fiction. However, if the story was about Howie's son dealing with the fact that Howie was a backstreet boy and kids sang I Want It That Way all the time to tease him, I'd be more likely to classify that as BSB fiction.
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But I'm not talking about just a mention of the famous person. I'm talking about them being a character. Even someone like Leighanne.... she has fans, so I think it's still considered fanfic.
But like you said, Steph, it really doesn't matter.
Leighanne is a real person though. We're talking about original characters, fictional people.
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Guys, a made a debate thread for this
http://absolutechaos.net/fictalk/index.php/topic,2227.0.html
:)