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Title: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: honey on April 26, 2008, 02:45:46 AM
I've been doing a little research for my new suspense story, and I've come to the conclusion that Nick gets tortured way more than anyone else. Even in group stories where they're all getting beat up, Nick always gets it the worst. (I must be different though, because apparently Kevin is by far the easiest for me to kill since I just off-ed him for the third time. Sorry Kev  :P) Anyway I was just wondering why is it always NICK? Why is it so fun to torture him? Be it physically, mentally, or emotionally, doesn't matter. Nick is always getting the short end of the stick.

Aside from the october challenge where I killed them all, the worst thing I've ever done to him is let him get punched by a girl.

My questions to you are these...

What is the worst thing you've done to Nick in a story? Why did you chose Nick? and do you feel you pick on him more than the other boys?

Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Rose on April 26, 2008, 05:17:35 AM
Well for me, it is usually because Nick is always my leading man. Except in As Reality Crumbles which is the one story I have where AJ is the center Boy.

Let's see, I've put him in torture futuristic psychotic drugs where his mind created the pain he would feel in reality through dreams. And...in Born To Be he actually did die...and comes upon his own grave in that world later.  Oh and in one of my ancient in hiatus stories called Lost Souls, he was an abused child.

I tend to torture Justin Timberlake far worse lol.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: mare on April 26, 2008, 06:15:03 AM
I think the worst I have done to Nick is have Brian carve Mine on him. Yeah, I think that was pretty bad. As far as why he tends to be the victim I think the easiest answer that makes the most sense is the fact that he is the baby of the group. Most groups don't have quite the huge age differences that BSB does. I mean most of the people in a group tend to be around the same age but what makes BSB unique for writing is the fact that they are all different ages and in essence do act like brothers. That can really help play with the imagination. I bet if the scenerio was different and they were all the same exact age, you'd get a bigger variety of dilemmas happening equal amongst them all. That's just what I think anyway. I could be wrong, although that doesn't happen much  ;) lol

Because he is so much younger than let's say Kevin and Howie, it's easy for me to picture how it would be if something bad happened to the baby of the family. How quickly everyone would come to his rescue. And Let's face it, Nick just has so many sides to him, he's fun to write.

I have put them all in peril or had them all need that moment of rescuing but, I think the most believable of those settings has always been Nick and possibly AJ. Although i'm not a fan of writing AJ in peril lol because i'm not a fan of writing AJ. I love him but can't always pinpoint him how i'd like.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Carrie on April 26, 2008, 06:42:50 AM
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As far as why he tends to be the victim I think the easiest answer that makes the most sense is the fact that he is the baby of the group. Most groups don't have quite the huge age differences that BSB does. I mean most of the people in a group tend to be around the same age but what makes BSB unique for writing is the fact that they are all different ages and in essence do act like brothers. That can really help play with the imagination. I bet if the scenerio was different and they were all the same exact age, you'd get a bigger variety of dilemmas happening equal amongst them all. That's just what I think anyway. I could be wrong, although that doesn't happen much  Wink lol

Because he is so much younger than let's say Kevin and Howie, it's easy for me to picture how it would be if something bad happened to the baby of the family. How quickly everyone would come to his rescue. And Let's face it, Nick just has so many sides to him, he's fun to write.
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Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: julilly on April 26, 2008, 06:49:13 AM
I think Nick has shown us all a lot more vulnerability than the other guys, so it's easier to place him in moments of weakness because we've witnessed the fact that he does have weaknesses. I agree too with what Mare said about him being the baby, that's absolutely true.

I have had him lose an arm, get arrested, get shot in the neck, suffocated with a bag, get stabbed, sexually assaulted, aaaand oh yeah come down with a little case of MS *snicker*

I think I picked him because he seemed like he would be fun to torture lol
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: alota_cookin on April 26, 2008, 06:59:44 AM
I think Nick has shown us all a lot more vulnerability than the other guys, so it's easier to place him in moments of weakness because we've witnessed the fact that he does have weaknesses. I agree too with what Mare said about him being the baby, that's absolutely true.

I have had him lose an arm, get arrested, get shot in the neck, suffocated with a bag, get stabbed, sexually assaulted, aaaand oh yeah come down with a little case of MS *snicker*

I think I picked him because he seemed like he would be fun to torture lol

^THAT would be why Julilly scares me! lmao.

Seriously though, I agree that Nick being the baby and everything plays a big part in why people torture him. And, he does seem to be a bit weaker than the others. Plus, just the fact that everybody loves Nick and wants to read Nick stories...he is the most popular overall. So, it just makes sense that he would be the most popular pick in this area, too.

Um, I have never REALLY totured any of them. Well, that's not entirely true, the April challenge I did something but I can't talk about that, lol.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Kagoma on April 26, 2008, 07:43:32 AM
A lot of ya'll hit the nail on the head. Since he's the youngest, the baby of the group it makes some sort of sense that he get tortured. In Master's he probably is the second person to get it worst then anybody else in the whole story. Of course that can change as the story goes on.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 26, 2008, 10:01:03 AM
I think most people here know mine LOL.  As for why I picked Nick, I was on a Nick kick at the time and had been reading lots of stories about Nick, including Swollen Issues, so he was the only one I even considered.  My last few stories had been AJ or Brian stories, so I was ready for another Nick one.

In the overall course of my fanfic writing "career," I don't think I have picked on Nick more than the other guys.  That honor goes to Brian LOL.  My fanfic Brian has been shot, kidnapped, addicted to painkillers, held hostage, involved in car addidents, bus crashes, and plane crashes, had cancer, and needed heart transplants on two occasions.  Why?  Because he's my favorite. :D
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Sinara on April 26, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
The worst thing I've ever done to Nick in a story is having him watch his brother suffer from a forced overdose while being tied to a chair so he can't reach him. In the story, all the guys actually suffer, so I didn't necessarily CHOOSE Nick. All of them have bad stuff happen. If anyone got it worse in that story, it was Brian. First I had his son taken away from him by having someone abuse him and making it look like it was Brian. And the other part of that torture process hasn't officially been written yet, but it HAS been planned out.

Hmmm. Maybe I should continue that story this summer...
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: honey on April 26, 2008, 12:31:05 PM
aww yay for Brian girls!  I can see the point about Nick being the youngest. But I also think whoever said it's because Nick's the favorite might have had it right too. Julie sure doesn't seem to have a problem picking on someone other than Nick.  :D  

I used to be a brian girl to, but I guess I don't really have a favorite anymore. Maybe that's one of the reasons its been harder for me to write as much fan fic lately. I think I've picked on Nick probably the least. But he'll get his this time.  ;)

I'm actually new to the whole picking on them thing, but first I mowed Kevin over by a semi truck and gave Brian an abusive father who he then had to kill in order to save his mom, who dies anyway. Oh, and I made Howie gay, that was kind of mean of me I suppose. Then in my october challenge I stabbed them all to death one by one, and now I'm just getting started in my new one. There will be lots of torture and death in this one, but I can't say who gets what. :D But Kevin already got it. Kristin too. Hell, I even picked on Mason this time.    You are all making me turn sick.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Sinara on April 26, 2008, 01:13:08 PM
^ I think that's why I had such a hard time writing my "horror/suspense" story awhile back. I couldn't finish it because it was so hard to write about each of the guys getting tortured. It's just so out of my element, but I wanted to experiment. I'm hoping to finish it this summer, though. But that's also why I started writing No Strings Attached. It was another genre out of my usual writing style. I don't usually write NC-17 stories, but I tried it. Now, I'm finding it hard to finish as well, since it's so out of my usual.

I'm a lot like you. I like to write the fluffy, happily-ever-after stories. All these other stories are so much harder for me to write since they are so out there for me.

Hopefully AU won't end up being hard for me to write because i have like 20 AU story ideas I want to work on.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: honey on April 26, 2008, 01:28:17 PM
aww, yeah, this first chapter was really hard for me to write, but when it was finally finished, (while I'm still not sure how well I did with it) I was still kind of proud of myself for doing it. I LIVE for the fluffy happily ever afters so I have a hard time writing out of my element too, but a lot of my growth as a writer has come from forcing myself to do it.


But writing a story about Nick as the lead is hard for me to do in general too. Not as hard as writing AJ. I'm totally with you, Mare, on the AJ thing I can never nail him down as a person.

Nick does show a lot of versatility though, which I think is why I've decided to make him the lead in this story. And I think why I found it the easiest to want to torture him this time. Well, besides Kevin. I think I can pick on Kevin a lot because he's always shown as the leader and the strong one, but deep down I feel like he just takes that role because that's what was handed him and I can picture him being not as strong, but secretly.

When Nick suffers on the inside, the world knows, but Kevin? The man has to suffer too, he just doesn't share that with us. I think I like to imagine what is really going on inside him and what would happen if he just couldn't take it anymore. Like if he cracked and the leader falls.  That was kind of the point of my story "Kevin's Song" but I never did finish that one.  :-[  haha it wasn't light and fluffy enough for me. But I'm getting better at staying out of my comfort zone. Maybe I should go find it and give it another go since apparently I like to torture Kevin and that one was lots of emotional torture. 
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: mare on April 26, 2008, 03:22:41 PM
I know jeez poor Kevin! And people say i'm mean lol I would never kill both parents and leave a kid an orphan! :P

I don't kill the BSBs. It's my rule. Everyone else is fair game.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: A-RokzStalker on April 26, 2008, 08:00:31 PM
Plus, just the fact that everybody loves Nick and wants to read Nick stories...he is the most popular overall. So, it just makes sense that he would be the most popular pick in this area, too.

I agree. I think it might be because he's just the overall favorite.

Okay, so I don't count much because I've never finished a fanfic. Well, one short story, but I still don't count, lol. But I have started many fanfics, and I think that I can honestly say that I've never tortured Nick... Unless AJ's smelly feet in his face count. :D
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: rebellious_one on April 26, 2008, 09:29:02 PM
*sigh* I like to call Nick my "damsal in distress", because something's always happening to him, or he's always the one that needs saving. I've tortured him in my story "Incomplete" (by killing off his brother) and the sequel to the story, "Empty Spaces" by having these prison guards torture him ruthlessly. I don't really choose Nick to always be in peril or whatever, sometimes it just happens that way, but I kind of prefer keeping him away from always being the one that's hurt, or needs saving or whatever. I like to shed a little light on the other guys, or do it equally.

I think the question for me is why do I have the tendancy to make AJ the vulnerable one in my stories, lol. As to why people tend have all the crap happen to Nick... well, that's a mighty damn good question, lol.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Teri on April 27, 2008, 01:07:47 AM
well considering i'm a nick-fic writer i guess the worst things i've done to him involve mainly my series...

I had his gf cheat on him cuz she thought he was cheating (real mature i know but it happens), i had him get in a slug fest with a movie star, made him do a second season of HOC, let Jane mentally torture him as only she knows best, made him watch his fiancee go code blue right in front of him after giving birth, and i killed his premee son who had a heart deffect.

in other stories:

I subjected him to Jane(which lets face it is a fate worse than death!), made him a widower with two kids

So really I'm rather TAME compared to most of you!!
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Nijntje on April 27, 2008, 01:32:31 PM
I agree with what Mare said.. I think both me and A-rok said something along those lines when someone asked why we choose Nick to suffer in "Prevailing Fate". It's the whole 'little brother who needs saving'-thing..

What I did to Nick?
Not that much actually..

I just killed him off in PF, made him jump off a building, made him very depressed and killed him again in "Cut" (but then again, they all were killed in that one). Not that bad, right?
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: nicksgal on April 27, 2008, 06:04:38 PM
Meh, I've done worse to some of the other Boys. lol

I have nothing else to say here.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Purpura Lipstick on April 28, 2008, 11:29:44 PM
The worst I've done to him?

Had him beat up by an ex girlfriend... okay okay he was killed too (but those were past lives I don't count them).  One story.

Had a couple of girls make sure he couldn't remember who he was so that they could keep him on their farm with them.  Another story.

I downright killed him in another story, well technically Kevin killed him but they fought first so not really torture.  Yet a different story.

So only 2 and they are relatively mild compared to what everyone else is listing. *starts to wonder again why everyone thinks she's out to torture Nick*

As to why? I don't know, I think the boys get their fair share of at least mental torture from me. *shrugs* Though Howie probably gets it the least from me, then Brian next.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: kristy_05_88 on April 29, 2008, 10:38:08 AM
I think most people here know mine LOL.  As for why I picked Nick, I was on a Nick kick at the time and had been reading lots of stories about Nick, including Swollen Issues, so he was the only one I even considered.  My last few stories had been AJ or Brian stories, so I was ready for another Nick one.

In the overall course of my fanfic writing "career," I don't think I have picked on Nick more than the other guys.  That honor goes to Brian LOL.  My fanfic Brian has been shot, kidnapped, addicted to painkillers, held hostage, involved in car addidents, bus crashes, and plane crashes, had cancer, and needed heart transplants on two occasions.  Why?  Because he's my favorite. :D

I didn't know you did all of that to Brain, Julie. I'm lost here.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 29, 2008, 05:19:46 PM
I didn't know you did all of that to Brain, Julie. I'm lost here.

A lot of that is from my old stories... like the stories in "The Vault" on my site, a.k.a. the stories I don't really like to show people these days LOL.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: kristy_05_88 on April 29, 2008, 07:05:30 PM
A lot of that is from my old stories... like the stories in "The Vault" on my site, a.k.a. the stories I don't really like to show people these days LOL.

Oh! Okay! I need to look then. LOL :P
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 29, 2008, 08:20:34 PM
Oh! Okay! I need to look then. LOL :P

Nah, you really don't. :P
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: kristy_05_88 on April 30, 2008, 11:22:59 AM
Nah, you really don't. :P

Lol okay. I won't then, but you never replied on DS about your story. I loved it, and it being and AJ story was shocking for me. I loved the sepense because I knew something had happened, just not what. I just love anything from you if you haven't noticed, I like that you're writing shorts.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: julilly on April 30, 2008, 04:32:35 PM
There's no talk of other websites here! lol As much as I support love of Julies... TOPIC!
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: fracktrain on August 08, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
You always hurt the one you love lol :P
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Purpura Lipstick on August 23, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
I had him lose his memory and a couple psycho girls take care of him.

I made him Howie's lover, but if you think about it that can be turned around as something down to Howie as well, making him Nick's lover and all.

He has been killed.  BUT to be fair, I've killed all the guys at least once.

Oh he was tied to a chair and beaten, but that's only implied as I didn't write that actual scene.

I think I do plenty to all the boys, but you asked about Nick. As for why I do that to him, to make the story interesting of course. If he's the main or a main character you have to have something interesting, sometimes horrible, happen to them for the story's sake.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: BSB-Chick-101♥ on September 17, 2008, 05:48:19 AM
Worst Thing I did to Nicky?

Um..I had him knock up a girl he doesn't really love and she gets pregnant, and In a major  boating accident. I cant give away my plot but the next thing is his current gf break up and she gets in the hospital to really test his love for her. Ohhhh! :P
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: julilly on September 17, 2008, 07:26:59 AM
He gets her pregnant in a major boating accident? ... What?
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: alota_cookin on September 17, 2008, 11:12:09 AM
He gets her pregnant in a major boating accident? ... What?

Did he, kind of, just fall on her when the boat crashed?
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: BSB-Chick-101♥ on September 17, 2008, 12:59:54 PM
NO! jeez people, he got into a major boating accident AND he already has a kid from a previous relationship, clean the stuff out of your ears!
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: alota_cookin on September 17, 2008, 06:28:23 PM
 ::) *put hands in air* Sorry, geesh!

Besides...woul dn't it be more like "get glasses", rather than "clean the stuff out of your ears"? Because it was a post that we read and we didn't actually hear it, to begin with? Therefore, wouldn't cleaning out my ears, actually, be completely ineffective?  :-\

I mean...not to get technical or anything.  :P I could still clean them out, if you'd like, though.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: BSB-Chick-101♥ on September 17, 2008, 06:31:07 PM
Oh my god you people are so sarcastic around here! I LOVE IT :D I'm going to like it here!
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Sakabelle on September 17, 2008, 06:50:47 PM
::) *put hands in air* Sorry, geesh!

Besides...woul dn't it be more like "get glasses", rather than "clean the stuff out of your ears"? Because it was a post that we read and we didn't actually hear it, to begin with? Therefore, wouldn't cleaning out my ears, actually, be completely ineffective?  :-\

I mean...not to get technical or anything.  :P I could still clean them out, if you'd like, though.

lol Kristal I love you.  :-*
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: alota_cookin on September 17, 2008, 06:54:55 PM
lol Kristal I love you.  :-*

*squishy hug* I wub you too!  :D
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 17, 2008, 07:13:17 PM
He gets her pregnant in a major boating accident? ... What?

Now that would be interesting LOL.  It makes sense though... of course he'd get in a boating accident if he's impregnating a girl while driving the boat LOL.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: honey on September 17, 2008, 08:28:05 PM
Now that would be interesting LOL.  It makes sense though... of course he'd get in a boating accident if he's impregnating a girl while driving the boat LOL.

now THAT is something I  have not yet read in fan fic...   10 points for the girl who can show me a fic where Nick impregnates a girl while driving a boat.




ps... sarcasm? who was being sarcastic?  ;)
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: nicksgal on September 17, 2008, 08:51:53 PM
Now that would be interesting LOL.  It makes sense though... of course he'd get in a boating accident if he's impregnating a girl while driving the boat LOL.

LMAO, best story ever.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: mare on September 17, 2008, 09:20:24 PM
Now that would be interesting LOL.  It makes sense though... of course he'd get in a boating accident if he's impregnating a girl while driving the boat LOL.

And then she should be decapitaded and then get someone else's head and poor Nick wouldhave to not only deal with being a dad but having a girlfriend with a head of someone else....hrmm let's say Joan Van Ark. lol
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: julilly on September 17, 2008, 09:32:26 PM
Oh my god you people are so sarcastic around here! I LOVE IT :D I'm going to like it here!

That would imply that my original question was something I didn't actually mean. Quite the contrary. Nowhere were those other details outlined in your initial statement.

Not to mention the thread was about things happening to Nick and I don't see how your fanfic self-manifestation being pregnant really compares to killing him off, or choppage.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: honey on September 17, 2008, 09:36:18 PM
hehe. you said choppage. That makes me happy. And it makes me miss my old avatar.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: mare on September 17, 2008, 09:37:34 PM
I miss Red too! :(
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: nicksgal on September 17, 2008, 10:49:57 PM
I don't really think Nick cares about nasty breakups either.

Though if it were like the scene in the Hollow, you know the one in the shack, but with Nick? That would qualify for this thread. lol
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: julilly on September 18, 2008, 06:45:11 AM
I don't really think Nick cares about nasty breakups either.

Though if it were like the scene in the Hollow, you know the one in the shack, but with Nick? That would qualify for this thread. lol

That will really be Nick's way to do, you know.... losing his head while giving head
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 18, 2008, 04:45:45 PM
now THAT is something I  have not yet read in fan fic...   10 points for the girl who can show me a fic where Nick impregnates a girl while driving a boat.




ps... sarcasm? who was being sarcastic?  ;)

Does it count if I write it?  Cause I am so there...
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: BSB-Chick-101♥ on September 18, 2008, 05:46:26 PM
By all means people! But Rokofages, since I implied it...I think you should give the first attempt on this! Good Luck!
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: Rose on September 18, 2008, 07:27:55 PM
Now that would be interesting LOL.  It makes sense though... of course he'd get in a boating accident if he's impregnating a girl while driving the boat LOL.

And the girl ends up badly mangled/in a coma but of course remains preggers?

I'll almost pay to see someone write that lmao.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: BSB-Chick-101♥ on September 18, 2008, 07:45:54 PM
 Haha! Rose, I agree with you! I'd pay money to read that!  :P
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: nicksgal on September 19, 2008, 12:03:16 AM
That will really be Nick's way to do, you know.... losing his head while giving head

Oh, you know Nick would love evvery minute of it. lol
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: BSB-Chick-101♥ on September 19, 2008, 05:55:04 AM
LMAO! Yeah thats so true Nick would love every minute of that!  :o
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: julilly on September 19, 2008, 07:00:18 AM
Dee just said that lol
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: mare on September 19, 2008, 10:46:40 AM
I am sad my decapitation post went totally ignored! lol
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: julilly on September 19, 2008, 10:52:18 AM
And then she should be decapitaded and then get someone else's head and poor Nick wouldhave to not only deal with being a dad but having a girlfriend with a head of someone else....hrmm let's say Joan Van Ark. lol

I ignore you because of your bad spelling.
Title: Re: Why does all the crap happen to Nick?
Post by: mare on September 19, 2008, 10:56:45 AM
uh, typos and you know I am on a gabillion drugs. :P lol Besides, I had to fit in with the type of story i'm talking about.