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Fic Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: julilly on December 19, 2006, 09:37:08 PM
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Hmm, well now that the board is up and running I think that definitely the next advance for the site should be a fanfic awards. Obviously we all have more than enough on our plates right now with a server change, the holidays, and the new board but it's something to think about for 2007. What does everyone else think? Awards? Good idea? Crap idea? :D
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I think fan fic awards would be a great idea since there's such a wealth of authors on AC!
And if you wanted any help, I would love to. ;D
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I started thinking about it, and I find that most of the time when you come across a fanfic awards in passing, 60% of the fics are from AC, so I figure why not an awards? I rarely know about awards things until people are posting their winners banners, and I know most awards have a tough time getting participation, we KNOW we would have lots of fics entered because there are so many fics being posted daily and people visit often enough they would know about it.
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I noticed that also. Back in the hey day of pop music though, they were just from ordinary websites. Which is funny. But it's nice having AC, since it brings everything together. :)
True. The categories would all close really quickly, I think.
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Yeah, I remember waaaay back in the '98-'02 days when we all had our own sites, and fanfic awards were abundant and full of entries...how the world has changed lol
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Well, there were more diverse readerships then. More people went around looking for them. No, they really don't.
Course, we can't expect everything to stay the same forever. :)
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I think fan fic awards would be a great idea since there's such a wealth of authors on AC!
And if you wanted any help, I would love to. ;D
I'd be happy to help as well!
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I think this'd be an excellent addition to the site. I'm more than happy to set up nominating forms and all that good stuff.
Would you rather have judges who read it all and pick the winners or a free for all vote for the winners? Or perhaps some that are judged categories and some that are voted on?
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This is just my little old opinion....
I think the categories should be judged, but the readers should also get to vote from the nominees for a Reader's Choice award for the categories. :)
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I think a fanfic awards would be a great idea! It's hard to find awards that actually follow through on a season these days, so one run by AC would be great!
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This is just my little old opinion....
I think the categories should be judged, but the readers should also get to vote from the nominees for a Reader's Choice award for the categories. :)
I agree.
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Hrmm I think judging would be a good route but I also think voting would work as well as long as you could only vote once per category. And not once per day but once and that's it. I never understood the point of voting over and over again lol
Either way, it seems like a great idea!
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I like the reader's choice idea! I think unbiased judging makes it less of a popularity contest and more about the fics, but a vote to decide a reader's choice or honourary mention award is a very good idea.
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I agree on the judging + Reader's Choice too; that seems like the most fair method.
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I think that without judges it would go into chaos. I've seen a reader's only based vote before where fan fics that had nothing to do with the category won said category. ???
I don't like that multiple voting thing either, Mare. I never got it.
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I like the mostly judged categories with a reader's choice award (or two)--and yes, I'll find a script that will only allow one vote per person (and will record IP addresses to make sure duplicates are easily spotted. I don't get the point of seeing how many times a person can click a button...lol.
Okay, so I'm thinking we'll have some obvious categories (like Best Portrayal of [insert character name here]), but for fun the judging committee can come up with some categories that people won't even know we're looking for (like "best use of kitchen utensils" (okay probably not that one, lol)). Most of the site is BSB fics, but we'll have to make sure to include some categories for non-BSB as well.
My schedule's going to be kinda hectic for the next couple weeks (kids are now out of school, they're not gonna let me be at the computer all that much lol) so I don't know how much I'll really be able to help with the organizing of things (or setting up nomination forms) until school starts back up again, but in the meantime, I'd say we should be discussing rules and how the nomination process should be done.
One rule I would like (but will forgo if it would rule out too many people) is that the winning fics' author agree for their story to be posted in the A.C. archive if it's not already--it's a peeve of mine to have dead links in award winner lists, so having a copy on the site rather than posting external links (that could be removed at any time...) would be ideal.
Anyhoo, another question to throw out there: Awards title? (I'll admit that I toyed with the idea of a fanfiction award site called the Felix Awards (cuz Oscar...Felix. ..erm...yeah) but I'd love to hear if ya'll have some good suggestions.
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I almost died laughing at the "best use of kitchen utensills". :D
This is my opinion... But I think it would be nice if the nominees could only be from AC. That way, the broken links thing wouldn't be an issue and some lesser known authors may get people to read their stuff. :) And then that way, all the nominees would be current authors. But again... That's just my opinion...
The name "Eternal Chaos" came to my mind.... :D
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ahh '98-'02 the heyday of BSB websites. Are there any out there still plugging away?
I was thinking about opening my awards again, but didn't want to take the time. Last time I did it I judged 80% of them and it got old.
Definately judged though, voted on NEVER gets the right stories as winners.
Also maybe a judge who writes that genre to judge. I mean don't put someone who writes mostly AU to judge Romance it wouldn't work.. or someone who writes Kevin judging a Nick category? I don't know probably doens't matter a ton.
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Awards would be a great idea! Judging I think would be awesome for the major categories, but also have reader's choice sections as well so it would be a good smattering of both! By the way thanks for the discussion board!! Genius idea!
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I think that without judges it would go into chaos. I've seen a reader's only based vote before where fan fics that had nothing to do with the category won said category.
That was definitely a concern of mine, that people undeserving would win just because they have 200 friends who all came and voted :P I think we'll end up going with judged, and a reader's choice (like the MTV Awards lol)
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Like MTV? :D
It was a crazy awards! Like a romance story won the horror category.... *shakes head*
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And I also think purpura's idea of having people who write and read certain genres be the ones to judge would work as well. I know I tried judging a category once that I didn't enjoy and had to withdraw because I felt like I wasn't giving the stories a chance lol
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I would be willing to help in any way, whether it's creating graphics or helping with some organization. :) I love the "Felix Awards" (Oscar and Felix, yeah!)
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It's funny, but fan fic awards is actually how I heard about AC in the first place. I had joined this yahoo group and they were all talking about the "Stripped" awards. That's when everyone had to explain the world of Fan fiction to me. I was excited though because I had been writing stories forever and always thought I was crazy. I had no idea there were others out there like me. lol Anyway, they told me that I could find their stories on AC and now I'm totally addicted. I guess I always assumed after that that the "Stripped" awards were AC's fanfic awards... Guess not. But I think it's a great Idea to have some. I think you would get plenty of participation. The site is already so active and I know I have a few favorites that I would love to give well-deserved praise to.
*** I say do it***
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Of course you're not the only one. *hug*
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Fan fic awards are always a great idea, but they have to be done right. I think Laura and I discussed this idea for Ethereality breifly. In most fan fic awards I've found that people nominate themselves which shouldn't be allowed. Cuz then you have underserving stories in all the categories. They should be by peer nomination only, that way everyone will have to nominate someone else.
The other problem is that I find that the person who runs the award site only nominates their friends. I've been on both sides of the fence where I've been excluded from a site because i wasn't AS close to the owner as others and situations where a friend made a site and kinda rigged it so there was no competition. Neither way was fair.
I'd love to judge if you need help! I'm familair w/many of the stories on AC.
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Best Use of Kitchen Utensils... I swear I had a category similar in one of my awards, or was I just joking about it.. LOL
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Fan fic awards are always a great idea, but they have to be done right. I think Laura and I discussed this idea for Ethereality breifly. In most fan fic awards I've found that people nominate themselves which shouldn't be allowed. Cuz then you have underserving stories in all the categories. They should be by peer nomination only, that way everyone will have to nominate someone else.
The other problem is that I find that the person who runs the award site only nominates their friends. I've been on both sides of the fence where I've been excluded from a site because i wasn't AS close to the owner as others and situations where a friend made a site and kinda rigged it so there was no competition. Neither way was fair.
I'd love to judge if you need help! I'm familair w/many of the stories on AC.
Oh yeah, I hate when people nominate themselves. It makes it into a popularity contest and that's no good.
I was really surprised by the stripped award, because I jsut stumbled upon it while you guys were talking (back at Ethereality) and 'lo and behold, I had been nominated.
Things are funny like that.
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Oh yeah, I hate when people nominate themselves. It makes it into a popularity contest and that's no good.
I was really surprised by the stripped award, because I jsut stumbled upon it while you guys were talking (back at Ethereality) and 'lo and behold, I had been nominated.
Things are funny like that.
The thing is though Dee, is that little known authors, like myself, HAVE to nominate themselves. And yes, though I'd love an award, it's more for publicity then anything else.
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The thing is though Dee, is that little known authors, like myself, HAVE to nominate themselves. And yes, though I'd love an award, it's more for publicity then anything else.
I understand that when you run your own site to host your stuff, but especially if AC hosts the awards.... Everyone's gotten at least a little publicity by their stories showing up on the "most recent" page. And with the wealth of stories on AC, it seems unfair for people to be nominating themselves, especially with 1000+ stories and 200+ authors when, more than likely, only ten nominees per category will be accepted (basically because that number is usually the norm).
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oh I suppose that's true. *doesn't hold breath about being nominated* LOL :-D
Oh well... *runs off to write another chapter of MWM*
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You never know. ::)
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I understand that when you run your own site to host your stuff, but especially if AC hosts the awards.... Everyone's gotten at least a little publicity by their stories showing up on the "most recent" page. And with the wealth of stories on AC, it seems unfair for people to be nominating themselves, especially with 1000+ stories and 200+ authors when, more than likely, only ten nominees per category will be accepted (basically because that number is usually the norm).
Oh yea! That's another thing. We should definitely put a cap on how many categories a nominee can be in. Not mentioning names, but i know of other award sites that were literally swept by ONE story.
I think that if we nominate just from AC everyone has a fair chance as long as you've updated recently. Dee is right... Your story was up front on the Most Recent page at one time or another. Besides not all of the writers have websites. I tried the website thing a few years ago and I couldn't keep up with it. That's why I LOVE AC!
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Oh yea! That's another thing. We should definitely put a cap on how many categories a nominee can be in. Not mentioning names, but i know of other award sites that were literally swept by ONE story.
Don't remind me... I'm still bitter about that. :P I bet the host didn't even read the other stories and give them a real chance.
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Don't remind me... I'm still bitter about that. :P I bet the host didn't even read the other stories and give them a real chance.
ooooh what awards was that? *looks around hoping it wasn't hers, it's been too long for her to remember*
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Don't remind me... I'm still bitter about that. :P I bet the host didn't even read the other stories and give them a real chance.
I'm still bitter about that too! It was so overwhelmingly one sided (aside from the fact that you both know how I feel about that one)!
Laura, did we ever finish our conversation about this? I don't think we did. Let's continue the bad blood some time. ;)
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ooooh what awards was that? *looks around hoping it wasn't hers, it's been too long for her to remember*
No, not you, you're fine.
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ooooh what awards was that? *looks around hoping it wasn't hers, it's been too long for her to remember*
Don't worry, it wasn't yours. But I'm not going to say who it was since the story that swept most categories away is very popular on AC.
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I'm still bitter about that too! It was so overwhelmingly one sided (aside from the fact that you both know how I feel about that one)!
Laura, did we ever finish our conversation about this? I don't think we did. Let's continue the bad blood some time. ;)
Probably not. But you know I'd be all for it. *hehe*
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Don't worry, it wasn't yours. But I'm not going to say who it was since the story that swept most categories away is very popular on AC.
Yup, and we'd most likely get in trouble. :(
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Probably not. But you know I'd be all for it. *hehe*
I know you would. ;D Next time you're on messanger, give me a holler.
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I know you would. ;D Next time you're on messanger, give me a holler.
ooh ohh, where can I join? I wanna hear the dirt. I'm sure it wasn't anything I've written. HAHA.
what messenger do ya'll use?
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I use AIM, Yahoo and MSN... and I'm usually on all three when I'm online .. :-D
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ooh ohh, where can I join? I wanna hear the dirt. I'm sure it wasn't anything I've written. HAHA.
what messenger do ya'll use?
YIM, AIM, MSN, IMVU. Let me know it's you and you're in the clear for any, Kelly. :)
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YIM, AIM, MSN, IMVU. Let me know it's you and you're in the clear for any, Kelly. :)
aww, I feel loved!
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Eh, I like you, you offered to beta read my story, you're a nice chick, I've got no quips. :)
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ooh ohh, where can I join? I wanna hear the dirt. I'm sure it wasn't anything I've written. HAHA.
what messenger do ya'll use?
Oh oh... Look at what I started lol Yea we prolly shouldn't continue this on this board, but yea if you wanna chat privately my AIM is DimpledDevil18 . I love talking to other authors in general anyway.
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Well, it's always on the back of my mind, and Laura's apparently, so you just helped the bad blood reemerge. ;)
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Well, it's always on the back of my mind, and Laura's apparently, so you just helped the bad blood reemerge. ;)
Now I have that on my conscience LOl Thanks Dee!
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Now I have that on my conscience LOl Thanks Dee!
I never said it was a bad thing. ;) I think it's a good thing. I was worried that I was the only one that still cared.
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I never said it was a bad thing. ;) I think it's a good thing. I was worried that I was the only one that still cared.
Well, not like I was impacted by it cuz I wasn't nominated, but yea... its the principle of the matter and while we were on the topic it kinda came to mind. If I was nominated I prolly wouldn't have been so happy, so I understand how you feel.
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Well, not like I was impacted by it cuz I wasn't nominated, but yea... its the principle of the matter and while we were on the topic it kinda came to mind. If I was nominated I prolly wouldn't have been so happy, so I understand how you feel.
I don't remember if I was nominated against her.... But it was the principle of the matter that upset me.
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I love Fan Fic Awards!!! So long as the Awards we have here don't end up like all the others seem to end up - they never tell anybody whose won. People running most the Fan Fic Awards sites just up & disappear & promise to be back with winners & then never come back. It's rather annoying really, because you know you're nominated, but it's been months or years even since they've updated anything.
And if y'all need help with judging or whatever, I'll help out as best I can.
~Lenni~
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I love Fan Fic Awards!!! So long as the Awards we have here don't end up like all the others seem to end up - they never tell anybody whose won. People running most the Fan Fic Awards sites just up & disappear & promise to be back with winners & then never come back. It's rather annoying really, because you know you're nominated, but it's been months or years even since they've updated anything.
And if y'all need help with judging or whatever, I'll help out as best I can.
~Lenni~
I know, that's so annoying! I stopped running mine because of cheating issues, but I at least finished out the season.
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What sort of cheating issues were those?
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What sort of cheating issues were those?
Well, the way I did mine was, I had polls for readers to vote for each category, and then I also judged myself, so there would be a Reader's Choice and a Webmistress's Choice award for each category. I figured that was a nice compromise - then no one could accuse me of being biased or anything for the ones that were voted on, and I could also give stories that were really good but maybe not as popular/recognized awards.
I got fed up with the voting, though, because I noticed a select few stories by a select few authors who were all friends getting WAY more votes than any of the other stories, and it seemed very fishy to me, especially since I'd never even HEARD of any of those stories and authors before that season (and I'd been reading fanfic for probably four years at that point and had run my awards 3 or 4 times, so I was pretty familiar with the popular stories). I thought that my polls were the kind where you could only vote once a day, period, but after playing around enough, I discovered that if you restarted your whole computer, you could vote more than once a day, so I think they beat the system and ensured that they and their friends would win in all their categories.
Some of those people used to run their own awards, where, ironically, all of their friends would also win, and those were done by judging. And, to me, there was nothing that special about their stories, especially when compared to some of the others that were nominated. So I got fed up with awards altogether that year (and this was a few years ago; I don't think any of those authors are still writing anymore, so I'm not talking about anyone on AC or anything), and I haven't run mine since.
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Well that seems completely unfair. I'd have just banned the stories or something if they were the only ones cheating. Especially for the other stories where people were following the rules. :(
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Well that seems completely unfair. I'd have just banned the stories or something if they were the only ones cheating. Especially for the other stories where people were following the rules. :(
I had no actual proof of the whole cheating conspiracy; it just seemed VERY unlikely that those few stories could get that many votes compared to the numbers for all the other stories. But since I couldn't prove it, I finished out the season, gave them their damn awards for those categories, definitely didn't award them any for my choices LOL, and have held a grudge against them ever since for ruining my fun running my awards. Because it was fun, until they screwed it up for me.
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Awwwwwww.... I'm sorry. :(
I'd say start them again if those authors wouldn't come back.... but that's probably poor advice, or something like that.
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Awwwwwww.... I'm sorry. :(
I'd say start them again if those authors wouldn't come back.... but that's probably poor advice, or something like that.
I've thought about it, but I just don't have as much time anymore.
I actually had another awards site that I ran with a couple of friends called the Undiscovered Gem Awards, which we started purposely to award stories that were not the popular ones that won awards everywhere else. We specified that you could only be nominated if you hadn't won any or more than 2-3 awards (I don't remember what the actual number was). Whatever it was, we did it just to eliminate those authors from nominating themselves LOL. And we judged everything ourselves. It was great, and we had planned on doing another season, but then the two of them got busy, and so did I, and it kinda fell through. I would love to run that one again, but I just haven't had time for another project.
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I've thought about it, but I just don't have as much time anymore.
I actually had another awards site that I ran with a couple of friends called the Undiscovered Gem Awards, which we started purposely to award stories that were not the popular ones that won awards everywhere else. We specified that you could only be nominated if you hadn't won any or more than 2-3 awards (I don't remember what the actual number was). Whatever it was, we did it just to eliminate those authors from nominating themselves LOL. And we judged everything ourselves. It was great, and we had planned on doing another season, but then the two of them got busy, and so did I, and it kinda fell through. I would love to run that one again, but I just haven't had time for another project.
I think that's a REALLY awesome idea Julie! So many great stories go undiscovered cuz they are overshadowed by the hype of other stories. As a reader I've always been wary of "overhyped" fics that everyone else seems to gush over. I guess maybe I expect too much? Anyway my favorite stories have been those "diamond in the rough" type.
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The Undiscovered Gem Awards were a great idea because there is so much talent out there waiting to be found. I wanted to do something like that for FFF, but I never got around to it and I think at that point I was so over the whole awards thing and how people would react to them that I was afriad to even go there.
Awards are a very tricky thing and no matter what, you're not going to please everybody. Those anti awards sites really drained all the fun out of fanfic awards for me lol they were horrid! I'm glad those days are over.
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Awards can be a good or bad thing depending on how they're handled.
I think doing one like that is a great idea, because I've noticed also that there a lot of people out there that only go for stories that have a lot of hype surrounding them, because theyre sure to be "amazing" or something. And some of them are, but others are cliched teenyness. So I don't know.
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I think that's a REALLY awesome idea Julie! So many great stories go undiscovered cuz they are overshadowed by the hype of other stories. As a reader I've always been wary of "overhyped" fics that everyone else seems to gush over. I guess maybe I expect too much? Anyway my favorite stories have been those "diamond in the rough" type.
Exactly!! I mean, some of those overhyped fics are on my favorites list too because they're truly good stories - they're overhyped for a reason. They may not be everyone's cup of tea, storyline- or genre-wise, but you can't deny they're well-written stories. But so many others, I've tried to read and just been like, "Eh..." or even "Huh??" I guess I'm kinda picky too, and when they're that overhyped, I expect them to deliver too. I love the diamond in the rough stories and authors too; those awards were fun to run. :)
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Exactly!! I mean, some of those overhyped fics are on my favorites list too because they're truly good stories - they're overhyped for a reason. They may not be everyone's cup of tea, storyline- or genre-wise, but you can't deny they're well-written stories. But so many others, I've tried to read and just been like, "Eh..." or even "Huh??" I guess I'm kinda picky too, and when they're that overhyped, I expect them to deliver too. I love the diamond in the rough stories and authors too; those awards were fun to run. :)
Yup, I agree lol I do love a lot of the overhyped stories but there are quite a few I just kind of go 'and why do people like this again?' LOL i'm the same way with movies too though. I'm probably the only person in the universe that kept saying "Die already!!" during the Notebook. lol
I have issues! :P :-[
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Yup, I agree lol I do love a lot of the overhyped stories but there are quite a few I just kind of go 'and why do people like this again?' LOL i'm the same way with movies too though. I'm probably the only person in the universe that kept saying "Die already!!" during the Notebook. lol
I have issues! :P :-[
I was the weirdo that decided to laugh during LOTR when the trees started walking. I was so disappointed that they didn't step on anyone.
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I was the weirdo that decided to laugh during LOTR when the trees started walking. I was so disappointed that they didn't step on anyone.
and i'm the weirdo that still has yet to see it! lmao but now I might have to. Walking trees eh?
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I was the weirdo that decided to laugh during LOTR when the trees started walking. I was so disappointed that they didn't step on anyone.
LOL I would probably laugh too! I've only seen the first LOTR, and the whole time, I kept wanting to ask my friend, "When is this going to be over?" Only then it did end, and I was like, "Huh??" cause the end was so abrupt! Granted, I knew I was supposed to lead into two more sequels, but still. I'm not really into fantasy though, except Harry Potter and Star Wars. I read "The Hobbit" in 8th grade because I had to, and it wasn't bad once I got into it, but I've never really had the urge to curl up with the rest of the series either.
I laughed at the end of the second Matrix movie too... and I also hadn't seen any of those movies until a few years ago, when my college friends made me watch them. I still haven't seen the third one.
I do love The Notebook and Titanic and those kinds of movies, but I hate romantic comedies. Not ALL of them - I like My Best Friend's Wedding and The Wedding Singer - but most of the other ones I've seen are just cheesy and predictable and pointless. If I want to see a comedy, I'll watch Billy Madison or something - forget the romance. And if I want to see a romance, I'll watch a drama-filled tearjerker where comedy is only comic relief. And I know that makes me weird, cause the romantic comedies are the ones all my girl friends wanna go see LOL.
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and i'm the weirdo that still has yet to see it! lmao but now I might have to. Walking trees eh?
That's the second one. And unless you are a huge fan of the books, don't bother.
I was dragged; hence why I amused myself with the idea of walking trees stepping on people.
In fact... I'll save you the trouble of seeing it.... Lord Of The Rings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hquCf-sS2sU)
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LOL I would probably laugh too! I've only seen the first LOTR, and the whole time, I kept wanting to ask my friend, "When is this going to be over?" Only then it did end, and I was like, "Huh??" cause the end was so abrupt! Granted, I knew I was supposed to lead into two more sequels, but still. I'm not really into fantasy though, except Harry Potter and Star Wars. I read "The Hobbit" in 8th grade because I had to, and it wasn't bad once I got into it, but I've never really had the urge to curl up with the rest of the series either.
I laughed at the end of the second Matrix movie too... and I also hadn't seen any of those movies until a few years ago, when my college friends made me watch them. I still haven't seen the third one.
I do love The Notebook and Titanic and those kinds of movies, but I hate romantic comedies. Not ALL of them - I like My Best Friend's Wedding and The Wedding Singer - but most of the other ones I've seen are just cheesy and predictable and pointless. If I want to see a comedy, I'll watch Billy Madison or something - forget the romance. And if I want to see a romance, I'll watch a drama-filled tearjerker where comedy is only comic relief. And I know that makes me weird, cause the romantic comedies are the ones all my girl friends wanna go see LOL.
Leonardo DiCaprio.... *cue drooling smiley*
I'm not really a genre person when it comes to movies... My two favorite movies are: Titanic (Romance of romances) and The Labrinyth (Cult 80s movie). :D
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Leonardo DiCaprio.... *cue drooling smiley*
I'm not really a genre person when it comes to movies... My two favorite movies are: Titanic (Romance of romances) and The Labrinyth (Cult 80s movie). :D
LOL same here... Titanic is my absolute favorite movie, and Team America: World Police is probably my second favorite LOL. I love horror movies, raunchy comedies, epic historical romantic dramas, anything starring Leonardo DiCaprio except Total Eclipse, Disney movies, Harry Potter and Star Wars but not LOTR or Matrix... I'm pretty random too.
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LOL same here... Titanic is my absolute favorite movie, and Team America: World Police is probably my second favorite LOL. I love horror movies, raunchy comedies, epic historical romantic dramas, anything starring Leonardo DiCaprio except Total Eclipse, Disney movies, Harry Potter and Star Wars but not LOTR or Matrix... I'm pretty random too.
Me toos! :o
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Me toos! :o
You have excellent taste then. ;D He's my absolute favorite actor; I own almost every movie he's made, although I've slacked a little with his latest ones. I still need to see The Departed and Blood Diamond... hard to get anyone to go see them with me in the theater, and I won't go to movies alone. :( I'll rent them. :)
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LMAO at the parody!!!
That was excellent.
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You have excellent taste then. ;D He's my absolute favorite actor; I own almost every movie he's made, although I've slacked a little with his latest ones. I still need to see The Departed and Blood Diamond... hard to get anyone to go see them with me in the theater, and I won't go to movies alone. :( I'll rent them. :)
Come to Colorado and we can see them together. ;)
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It's always nice to be recognized for your stories, so I'm all for an awards competition thing... Sorry, I'm kind of brain dead right now. :P
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You have excellent taste then. ;D He's my absolute favorite actor; I own almost every movie he's made, although I've slacked a little with his latest ones. I still need to see The Departed and Blood Diamond... hard to get anyone to go see them with me in the theater, and I won't go to movies alone. :( I'll rent them. :)
Julie im disappointed in you *shakes head* lol...you have to watch it, they're both awesome :D although blood diamond is a thought provoking movie and you know mersey doesnt like thinking all that much, lmao...but they're both good imo and im not being bias or whatever just cause Leo's in it :p
I lost my The Basketball Diaries CD :( I seriously want another copy but i cant find it anywhere!
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Julie im disappointed in you *shakes head* lol...you have to watch it, they're both awesome :D although blood diamond is a thought provoking movie and you know mersey doesnt like thinking all that much, lmao...but they're both good imo and im not being bias or whatever just cause Leo's in it :p
Being biased about Leo is great! ;D