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Title: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 09, 2019, 06:41:40 AM
Hey guys! Since our other thread has gotten a bit long, I thought Iíd start a new one and change the idea. Since so few of us actual discuss things here, I changed it from just a question thread to a conversation one as well, so if you have anything on your mind BSB related, feel free to post in here.

Last things we were talking about - if any of the guys did something awful, would they stay together?
The me too debate concerning Nick
If there was any circumstance that would have you not be a fan
If we think they will win a Grammy
If all the new BSB stuff has anyone excited to write
Etc...

New thought - have you been watching all the interviews and have they said anything that has surprised you?




Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 02:19:40 PM
I think I've caught most of the interviews.  It still surprises me that they are all in agreement over If You Want It To Be Good Girl being their WORST song.  Really?!  It's a stupid song, don't get me wrong, but it's also catchy and fun.  I love it!  They have definitely recorded much worse, some of which they put on their albums!

What do you think is the worst officially released BSB song?  I'd have to go with She's a Dream.  I hate everything about that song, from the music/melody to the stupid Shorty lyrics.  Its only redeeming quality is that I got a good challenge story out of making fun of it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 09, 2019, 05:35:28 PM
I would have to say that my least favorites are Shining Star and PDA. I can see what you mean about She's A Dream. It's not a horrible song, just not a song for them. I could see some R&B singer, like idk Ne-yo maybe, singing that song instead.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 09, 2019, 05:47:54 PM
How are you guys feeling about the Grammys? I'm actually starting to get a better feeling that they might win. A lot of people have been saying that they think cause BTS is presenting, that they might be presenting to BSB.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 05:51:52 PM
I would have to say that my least favorites are Shining Star and PDA. I can see what you mean about She's A Dream. It's not a horrible song, just not a song for them. I could see some R&B singer, like idk Ne-yo maybe, singing that song instead.

Those two are among my least favorites as well.  I agree about She's a Dream - it would at least fit better with an R&B artist singing it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 05:52:50 PM
How are you guys feeling about the Grammys? I'm actually starting to get a better feeling that they might win. A lot of people have been saying that they think cause BTS is presenting, that they might be presenting to BSB.

I saw that article you retweeted.  How awesome and perfect would that be?!  I'm so excited!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 09, 2019, 08:07:45 PM
I have always detested Iíll Never Break Your Heart but I agree about Sheís a Dream. Also The Scissors song lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 08:23:57 PM
I'll Never Break My Heart is one of my least favorite of the singles.  It's not a bad song... just boring. 

I knew you were going to say The Scissors!  I actually love that song (This Is Us).  It's one of the redeeming tracks off that album for me.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 10, 2019, 02:53:22 AM
I think a lot of why I dislike INBYH is because of the incredibly cheesy dialogue at the beginning and how boring it is on the whole. It used to be my sit down song, after standing for the entire show Iíd use that song to sit and take a break!

Ah, the scissors song. If it makes This is Us feel any better, I thought AJ was singing that he had no nose after Ďwho are you the sex policeí my sexy has no nose 😳 lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 10, 2019, 02:57:54 AM
How are you guys feeling about the Grammys? I'm actually starting to get a better feeling that they might win. A lot of people have been saying that they think cause BTS is presenting, that they might be presenting to BSB.

I hope the guys arenít seeing all the hype surrounding this. Iíd hate for them to get their hopes way up, but man...that would be awesome. Iím not sure why thatís a tie in? Are they huge BSB fans or something? I know nothing about those guys. I donít think Iíve ever heard a song by them or anything. Iím very out of the loop lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 10, 2019, 10:07:53 AM
I think a lot of why I dislike INBYH is because of the incredibly cheesy dialogue at the beginning and how boring it is on the whole. It used to be my sit down song, after standing for the entire show Iíd use that song to sit and take a break!

Ah, the scissors song. If it makes This is Us feel any better, I thought AJ was singing that he had no nose after Ďwho are you the sex policeí my sexy has no nose 😳 lol

It's very Boys II Men, 90s R&B for sure!

LOL at "my sexy has no nose!"  That would be the Voldemort version of New Love.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 10, 2019, 10:09:21 AM
I hope the guys arenít seeing all the hype surrounding this. Iíd hate for them to get their hopes way up, but man...that would be awesome. Iím not sure why thatís a tie in? Are they huge BSB fans or something? I know nothing about those guys. I donít think Iíve ever heard a song by them or anything. Iím very out of the loop lol

I don't know of their songs either, but they are a boyband, so that's why it would be fitting - one boyband presenting a Grammy to another, who helped pave the way for them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 10, 2019, 11:16:51 PM
I have a really bad love for She's a Dream. It's a guilty pleasure. The lyrics are crap but the harmonies on that song are gold.

My least favorite BSB song ever...is probably Set Adrift on Memory Bliss. That song is just so boring to me LOL. I never listen to it. That and Lose It All.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 11, 2019, 12:40:32 AM
Least favorite song? I'd have to agree. Set Adrift On Memory Bliss. Puts me to sleep. Boring.

Favorite song?

Depends on my mood. Most of the time it's 10,000 Promises. Sometimes it's That's The Way I Like It and then others it's As Long As You Love Me. If that makes any sense haha.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 11, 2019, 03:04:46 AM
Well, the boys didnít win, but they looked like they really enjoyed just being there in the moment again. Being forced to watch the first few minutes though, made me think of a good question. How many of these artists do you think wouldnít make it past round one of either the voice or American Idol?

Iíve often thought about this after hearing some of these people perform. Like Post Malone for example, just yikes! Even established artists like JLo wouldnít stand a chance if all she had to stand on was her singing ability. Same with the girl who hosted that boy band reality show that Nick was on. My point is, there are very few singers who can actually sing lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on February 11, 2019, 09:04:30 AM
Itís very sad that the grammy doesnít want to give a trophy to them!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 11, 2019, 03:57:17 PM
Aww update on Gil and Dave. They will definitely be performing their song on the Oscars where, just like BSB, they will also lose to Lady Gaga lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 11, 2019, 05:24:05 PM
Set Adrift used to be a skip song for me, but it actually grew on me over the years.  It's a little boring, but I don't mind it now.  It's a nice Brian song.

It had been a LONG time since I'd bothered watching The Grammy's.  I'm sure the last time I watched was the last time the Boys were there; I just can't remember if that was in 2001, or if they presented or performed more recently than that.  I was glad their category was presented first so I didn't have to keep watching, LOL.  I didn't see Post Malone's or JLo's performance, but JLo isn't all that great of a singer.  A lot of pop singers are better entertainers than actual singers.  Then there's Lady Gaga - I did catch her performance, and she really can sing, but what the hell was she doing while she was singing?!  I actually like her music and think she is talented, but she is so freaking weird LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 11, 2019, 05:25:30 PM
Aww update on Gil and Dave. They will definitely be performing their song on the Oscars where, just like BSB, they will also lose to Lady Gaga lol

Oh great!  Now that I will watch all the way through.  Damn Lady Gaga!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 11, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Lol I bounced after the Boys lost. I was thankful they did that category early. I don't have the patience for award shows that I used to.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 11, 2019, 06:17:41 PM
I like the acting awards better than the music ones.  I don't know why because a lot of times I haven't seen most of the movies or shows that are nominated, but I still like watching.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 11, 2019, 07:22:44 PM
Iím the same. Actually the only awards I donít enjoy are the Grammys for some reason. I think my favorites are the Emmy Awards and the Tonys. I usually only watch the Oscars if I managed to see at least a few of the nominated movies or ya know...if someone I know is nominated I guess lol

Iíve had friends nominated for several Grammys and emmys but they are usually the categories that are done before the telecast except for when Susan was nominated for best new artist which was probably the last time I watched the Grammy awards. That was the year BSB was nominated for all those awards for Millennium but I wasnít really invested in them yet, although I was getting there. I was disappointed they didnít win anything.

Oh and yes, I agree. Lady Gaga is weird! Sheís incredibly talented but so odd I canít get on the bandwagon.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 11, 2019, 10:01:56 PM
Yea, its hard to watch the Grammys when you don't know who most of the singers/musicians are anymore LOL I kept asking my 13y/o who people were. She didn't know, but she isn't into music as much. My 10y/o who is more into music probably knew who a lot of them were lol but she was over at her grandparents.

I agree on the whole lady gaga thing, she is very talented but weird (though she has toned it down a lot in the past couple years) so I was never really into her either. But weird is what sells these days I guess. For most other singers they need to be "weird" in order to distract from them not being very talented. 

I feel the Grammys are more about performances/tributes than the actual awards. Like they only show a handful of awards compared to how many there actually are.

I feel acting award shows just seem more idk calm/mature, if that even makes any sense lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: julilly on February 15, 2019, 09:07:05 PM
I just watched A Star is Born and I'd probably give Gaga all the awards right now too. It was good.

On another note... I haven't listened to the new album. I've had lots of opportunity to (two 7 hour drives in three days) but I haven't even really listened to much music lately so the interest just isn't there. I usually have an audiobook or a podcast on when I'm commuting and what music I do listen to is alt rock.  :goldfish:


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 16, 2019, 08:09:30 AM
Iím always jealous of people who can listen to audiobooks while driving. I canít do it. I get so involved in the story I canít concen on anything else.

I havenít seen A Star is Born. I have a feeling I wouldnít really enjoy it,
even though I love Bradley Cooper. Iím just curious to know who dies at the end lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 16, 2019, 10:12:18 PM
Iím always jealous of people who can listen to audiobooks while driving. I canít do it. I get so involved in the story I canít concen on anything else.

I havenít seen A Star is Born. I have a feeling I wouldnít really enjoy it,
even though I love Bradley Cooper. Iím just curious to know who dies at the end lol

I was underwhelmed by A Star is Born.  It wasn't a bad movie; the acting was good, and the music was great.  The storyline just reminded me of every Mary Sue "Backstreet Boy randomly discovers aspiring singer and makes her a star" fanfic I've ever read.  But the music really is good, so you might like it for that.

Spoiler alert: As for who dies at the end...
Bradley Cooper hangs himself.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 17, 2019, 03:38:18 AM
The story just doesn't interest me at all. I don't know, I have no urge to see A Star Is Born.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 17, 2019, 04:09:06 AM
I adore Lady Gaga but I did not have a urge to see the movie.

However my mom and I went to see the anniversary edition of Dirty Dancing (I'd never seen the full movie before) and that was fun. AMC had a special two night showing so I bought tickets. It was fun when they started clapping in the movie when Johnny and Baby dance at the end because everyone in the theater started clapping and cheering too. My mom loved that and the behind the scenes documentary they showed in the beginning.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 17, 2019, 05:39:59 AM
Iíve never had the desire to see Dirty Dancing either. 

I know this is a shocker, but Iím not a fan of romance 😮 lol

In fact, I honestly canít think of even one purely romantic drama that I have enjoyed. I can name theee rom-coms: My Best Friendís Wedding, Ever After and The Princess Bride, but nothing else. Except musicals I guess, where pretty much all of them have at least some Mary Sue elements.

I never saw the other two versions of A Star is Born either. As far as Gaga, sheís incredibly talented but Iím not a fan of her stuff popwise. I do really enjoy Shallow though. I think my favorite version of her was the jazz one with Tony B. No weird stuff, just her and her talent.





Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 17, 2019, 05:40:40 AM
I was underwhelmed by A Star is Born.  It wasn't a bad movie; the acting was good, and the music was great.  The storyline just reminded me of every Mary Sue "Backstreet Boy randomly discovers aspiring singer and makes her a star" fanfic I've ever read.  But the music really is good, so you might like it for that.

Spoiler alert: As for who dies at the end...
Bradley Cooper hangs himself.


Thank you! lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 17, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
I LOVE Dirty Dancing!  I prefer romantic dramas to romantic comedies (shocker).  I generally hate romcoms, with the exception of a few (My Best Friend's Wedding, The Wedding Singer, The Princess Bride).  I want to see that new Rebel Wilson movie that makes fun of them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 17, 2019, 03:02:54 PM
Romantic comedy is the only way I can handle romance lol

Romance never was my favorite genre of anything depending on the movie...but if I had to pick a favorite romantic comedy it would be 50 First Dates... I also love Blast From The Past, and there's a couple others I can't think of. I love comedy films.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 18, 2019, 02:41:19 AM
I'm so picky with romances. I can't believe some of you guys had never seen Dirty Dancing though! My mom loved Patrick Swayze. We had every movie he'd ever done in my house lol. In fact she used to say she got why I got so excited about BSB/Nick cause she was a big fan of Swayze. Now Dirty Dancing gives me fond memories of my mom and I watching it randomly together.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 18, 2019, 03:42:57 AM
Iím super picky about movies in general. Iím not really a super huge movie fan. Iíve managed to avoid many movies that everyone has seen. Iíve never seen Footloose, Raiders of the Lost Ark, or any James Bond or those stupid Fast and Furious movies either. Iím sure thereís more that everyoneís seen that I have not lol

I was just talking about this topic to my band kids on Thursday. We are playing Do Re Ni from the Sound of Music and a few of them have never seen it! I feel like thatís a parenting flaw of some kind. Itís impossible to miss it. Itís on all the time lol Iíve made it required watching.

Itís nice Dirty Dancing makes you think of your mom.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 18, 2019, 04:10:17 PM
My sister adores the Fast and Furious movies and thinks is a tragedy I only saw the first one. I think I watched part of the second and gave up cause I thought it was dumb LOL. Her and I basically have an agreement that I won't make fun of her movies if she doesn't make fun of BSB. Since several of my siblings grew up in the 80s, I ended up well versed on those like Goonies, Footloose, Revenge of the Nerds, etc. It's kind of funny cause I think I've seen more 80s movies than 90s movies because of it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 18, 2019, 04:35:53 PM
Omg I LOVE Dirty Dancing too!! (like its probably in my top 5 movies) They did do an "updated" musical version of it that starred Abigail Breslin, I thought it was pretty good (not as good as the original lol but good for a musical version)

Rom-coms these days aren't as good as they used to be (late 90s/early 2000s have a few of good ones). That one with Rebel Wilson making fun of them looks pretty funny.  I don't watch them all the times, but they can be a guilty pleasure once in a while.


I think I like a lot of 80s/90s movies more then a lot of what's coming out these days. Which is probably why there are so many remakes of movies these days. Everyone loves the classics so lets try to remake every single one of them. Its getting a little ridiculous with remakes and making so many sequels/prequals to stuff (fyi-they are making ANOTHER one of those fast and furious movie LOL)




Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 18, 2019, 05:10:20 PM
Agreed on all the remakes. Like stop! Come up with new ideas! I do enjoy the Marvel movies, my dad is a huge comic book fan so it's been our thing since the first Iron Man movie came out.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 18, 2019, 05:20:38 PM
Omg I LOVE Dirty Dancing too!! (like its probably in my top 5 movies) They did do an "updated" musical version of it that starred Abigail Breslin, I thought it was pretty good (not as good as the original lol but good for a musical version)

Rom-coms these days aren't as good as they used to be (late 90s/early 2000s have a few of good ones). That one with Rebel Wilson making fun of them looks pretty funny.  I don't watch them all the times, but they can be a guilty pleasure once in a while.


I think I like a lot of 80s/90s movies more then a lot of what's coming out these days. Which is probably why there are so many remakes of movies these days. Everyone loves the classics so lets try to remake every single one of them. Its getting a little ridiculous with remakes and making so many sequels/prequals to stuff (fyi-they are making ANOTHER one of those fast and furious movie LOL)

I love Abigail Breslin, but I did not like that Dirty Dancing remake at all.  But let's be honest - it's really all about Patrick Swayze, and he is irreplaceable.  My mom always loved him too and introduced me to Dirty Dancing as a little girl, when all the inappropriate stuff went right over my head.  I just loved it for the dancing and music.

80s movies are the best!  I hate most of the remakes, but I am excited that they're making a new TV series of Stephen King's The Stand.  The old miniseries from the 90s has a great cast, but it's so cheesy... I've always wanted to see that updated!  The remake of It was fantastic, too.  But there are a lot more bad remakes than good ones.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on February 18, 2019, 08:00:51 PM
I love war movies and natural disaster movies like: saving private Ryan, windtalkers, volcano, danteís peak, 2012


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: julilly on February 18, 2019, 09:26:01 PM
I was underwhelmed by A Star is Born.  It wasn't a bad movie; the acting was good, and the music was great.  The storyline just reminded me of every Mary Sue "Backstreet Boy randomly discovers aspiring singer and makes her a star" fanfic I've ever read.  But the music really is good, so you might like it for that.

Spoiler alert: As for who dies at the end...
Bradley Cooper hangs himself.


Having seen the previous versions of the movie, I went into it fully prepared for the plot, which may have made a difference. Itís just the cause of death that changes between the versions lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 18, 2019, 10:16:37 PM
Having seen the previous versions of the movie, I went into it fully prepared for the plot, which may have made a difference. Itís just the cause of death that changes between the versions lol

Yeah, that's true.  I had never seen any of the previous versions.  I knew the gist of what it was going to be about, and it is what it is.  I probably would have enjoyed it more if I hadn't been jaded by BSB fanfic LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 21, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on February 21, 2019, 06:08:44 PM
I write reply on this topic, but no one see it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 21, 2019, 06:13:34 PM
I saw your post about the movies you like.  Is that what you mean, or is there something else we missed?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 23, 2019, 03:13:07 AM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?

I would take negative feedback over no feedback but only if it came in the form of constructive criticism. Iím not a fan of ďThat sucked!Ē Unless you tell me why. I was pretty lucky in my fanfic writing career to only receive a few negative comments. I always took them with a grain of salt. I admit, the first thing I would do is try to find something they have written and then use that as a gauge to either take their advice or just move on. If they werenít authors themselves I didnít let it bother me at all. But the negative comments came later on. If it was at the start of my writing fanfic, it would have been more damaging to me I think.

I have always been a fan of giving reviews. Initially thatís how I became friends with most of the fanfic authors I know. Any feedback I gave was positive. I could usually find something good to say even if I wasnít really a fan of something happening. If I didnít like something, I was always quick to point out it had more to do with how invested I was in the plot and story and didnít enjoy the direction because of Ďmeí than the actual writing. I hope the authors appreciated that. I know I used to.

One of my biggest pet peeves (besides banners) used to be people who never left feedback.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 23, 2019, 10:03:28 PM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?


I would have to say no feedback. Its nice to know what people think of the story, even if it may not be good. I'll take what they say into consideration if its constructive. It doesn't mean I'm going to change what or how I'm writing just for that person though.


If I'm reading something I don't like I'm not going to say anything negative. I know they probably worked hard on it. Like Mare said I might try to find something positive to say. And if the story just really doesn't interest me I wont continue to read it.


Do you think the feedback will be turned back on anytime soon?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 23, 2019, 11:56:40 PM
I agree with you both. I think I'd rather know what people think, even if it's negative, than hear nothing at all.  At least you can learn and grow from constructive criticism.  It's frustrating when you post something you've poured your heart and soul into and get no feedback at all, especially when you know people have read it.

The only time I don't leave feedback is if I try reading a story and don't like it.  If I know I'm not going to stick with it, I don't see the point in telling the author that, unless I'm asked to give an honest opinion.  I follow the Thumper rule of "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all."  When I do give constructive criticism, it is sandwiched between compliments.

I would also love to see reviews turned back on at some point.  There are plenty of other ways of giving feedback, but the review feature made it so convenient!  I know the spam reviews were getting to be a huge problem... I did a search to see if there was a way to solve this problem with the EFiction script, which is what I believe AC uses, and found this forum post with several solutions: https://efiction.org/forums/index.php?topic=9148.msg46422#msg46422  Maybe something the mods and/or Chaos could look into?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 24, 2019, 01:32:58 AM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?


I think no feedback at all is worse. I'd rather someone point out what I'm doing wrong or trying to help me than not saying anything. Like I got the hear wrong on my story and Julie was kind enough to point it out. I can take constructive criticism. It took me a long time but I can handle that now.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 24, 2019, 01:45:57 AM
I think the key thing about accepting constructive criticism is understanding that it's meant to be helpful.  I remember once in my early days of writing, a reader pointed out that I had mistakenly used the word "erotically" when I meant "erratically" (like breathing erratically) and that the two words mean very different things, LOL.  I fixed it and learned from that so I would never make that mistake again!  Another time, I had a character with a nosebleed being told by a nurse to tip his head back, and a reader with some medical training told me a nurse would never say that because tipping the head back can make blood run down your throat; he should have tipped his head forward instead.  For all my medical research, that was something I hadn't bothered to fact check, but now I know!  I appreciate people pointing stuff like that out, especially when it's an easy fix.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 24, 2019, 04:27:54 AM
Yeah, Iíve bern in the admin section for the last hour and have no clue where to even find that stuff. I think itís more of a Julilly thing. The spam is out of control. Just looking at our new members on the site they are all pretty much bots. Theyíre really hard to stay on top of when they leave reviews etc... itís taken me hours to manually remove them and I know itís taken Julilly the same.

Iíll never get the point of spam bots lol seriously. Does anyone see a penis enlargement review and think I want to click on that?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 24, 2019, 02:29:04 PM
LOL I don't get it either.  I know you guys were spending a long time trying to delete them all.  If Julilly's able to figure out where to add the challenge question or require new members to change their password, it sounds like that may cut down on their ability to actually leave spam reviews.  They'll still be able to make an account; they just won't be able to use it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 01, 2019, 08:37:33 PM
Watching Nick's 11+ minute (shirtless) live Twitter video from earlier today made me think about how lucky we are that the Boys have become so accessible.  Even if you haven't been able to meet them yet, social media has made them so much more interactive with fans.  If you had told me 20 years ago that I would actually be able to meet the Backstreet Boys, go on cruises with them, have actual conversations with some of them them, get autographs and pictures with them, etc. etc. etc., I wouldn't have believed it!  Even as a naive, delusional teenybopper, I was realistic enough to realize that I would probably never really meet them.  And now I have a whole wall covered with photos I've taken with them!  We as a fandom are so blessed!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 02, 2019, 07:19:44 AM
Watching Nick's 11+ minute (shirtless) live Twitter video from earlier today made me think about how lucky we are that the Boys have become so accessible.  Even if you haven't been able to meet them yet, social media has made them so much more interactive with fans.  If you had told me 20 years ago that I would actually be able to meet the Backstreet Boys, go on cruises with them, have actual conversations with some of them them, get autographs and pictures with them, etc. etc. etc., I wouldn't have believed it!  Even as a naive, delusional teenybopper, I was realistic enough to realize that I would probably never really meet them.  And now I have a whole wall covered with photos I've taken with them!  We as a fandom are so blessed!

Good god yes. If I went back in time and told 12 year old me everything that'd someday happen, she would've easily called me a liar. We've been so lucky as a fandom and any time I get frustrated with it, or annoyed, I remind myself of that. Cause really, things could've ended up like NSYNC lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 02, 2019, 12:23:33 PM
I am so thankful for the boys not ending up like Nsync because as an Nsync fan I'm still upset we did not fully get closure, not to mention that we will never get a reunion. But hey at least there is merch that I can buy cause 14 year old me wasn't allowed to have it then haha


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 02, 2019, 03:36:30 PM
We definitely picked the best boyband!  No offense to the NSYNC fans.

Speaking of other boybands, have you seen NKOTB's new music video?  It's an ode to the history of boybands, and it's so cute!  Great idea for a video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvOPoQrtFGI


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 02, 2019, 06:05:56 PM
I didnít watch his entire Twitter live because it kept freezing on me, but I love that when heís bored it seems to be the fans he talks to. Itís so weird how accessible these artists have become to their fans.

How do you think youíd do as a celebrity in the age of social media? Would you constantly let your fans in like bsb do? Would you charge fans to meet you? Would you take selfies with people?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 02, 2019, 10:58:16 PM
Yeah, that is cute!  You didn't really miss much; it was mostly shout-outs to fans, and he and Howie signed some shoes for a fan who came up to them.  I watched the whole thing though, plus the other one he did in his hotel room, LOL.

Those are good questions.  Honestly, I've never had a desire to be famous; I am not a people person and try to avoid human interaction as much as possible outside of my job (where I interact with people all day long, ironically LOL), so it's hard for me to answer.  I could see myself being the super private, reclusive type of celebrity because of that.  But on the other hand, I am a nice person who enjoys making people happy when I can, so I do think I would take selfies and sign autographs for fans.  I understand why celebrities charge fans for photo ops and meet-and-greets.  It may seem greedy, but I think it's mostly to control numbers so they can actually spend a few minutes with each fan, as opposed to being overwhelmed by a swarm of people and not having enough time to get to them all.  The VIPs are already crowded, as are their lines at conventions and things like that, so imagine what it would be like if they didn't charge for those opportunities.  Imagine how exhausting it must be to spend hours taking photos, signing autographs, and letting strangers hug all over you.  I know they appreciate us, but that has to get old.  It's part of the job, though, so they might as well be compensated for it.

Did you watch their concert in Chile from the other night, Mare?  If not, it's on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOYvNXjyweM  It's pretty much the same show they do in Vegas.  I love when we get professional recordings of concerts!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 03, 2019, 04:43:11 AM
I think my answer would be along the lines of yours. I would try not to charge crazy amounts but I do agree you have to charge something to control the numbers. What I really liked about Andrew Lincoln is the fact that he wasn't a fan of cons or charging fans but he did the Walking Dead one in Atlanta as a thank you since they filmed there. All the money he made went directly to charity. So it controlled the numbers yet it went to a good cause.

Or like how Nick did that toy drive event here in Vegas. It was literally like any meet and greet I'd been to on his solo tours. Plenty of time, able to chat, get photos, but literally 20$. I'd probably do things like that mixed in with regular M&Gs.

Janet Jackson has her Vegas residency, the description for her VIP is virtually the same as BSB one and she's charging 1,500$. Not even including a ticket. Lady Gaga's is around 2,500$. It's nuts.

Social media seems like a great way to connect with your fans and show appreciation with little risk. I think Kevin and Nick are the best about that.

I saw the NKOTB video! The song is pretty meh but the video was funny LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 03, 2019, 07:07:04 AM
Thanks for posting the concert video! Since I wasnít able to make it to a Vegas show, itíll be nice to see it. Hopefully someone will post a full video of their DNA tour since I wonít be able to do that either. 😕

I would be one of those people that fans would either love me or hate me. I am pretty introverted. I also am pretty sure I was one of those undiagnosed kids who are on the autism spectrum. If aspergers was a thing when I was growing up, Iím pretty sure I wouldíve been diagnosed with that. I hate physical contact. Getting hugged or people touching me, not a good thing so Iíd probably be miserable at these meet and greets or people wanting selfies etc... I try my hardest not to cringe when my little students come at me for a hug or when parents ask me to pose with their kids for a picture. 😳

I think those intimate things the guys used to do for charities were great. Paying for an event and then hanging with them all day for charity. I am not a fan of paying a tremendous amount of money just for a picture and a quick hello. I get why people do it though. Kind of like standing in line at the mall for hours to get a picture with Santa or the Easter bunny.

I think itís incredibly obnoxious to charge the amount those two are asking for and omg the ticket prices for that Aerosmith tour. I hate to break it to you people, but youíre not that special. No one is lol unless youíre going to come home with me, clean my house, go grocery shopping and do some heavy lifting, just no! Youíre just people. Have fifteen tentacles and come from the planet Zorb then maybe.

I actually did see the NKOTB video and had to laugh because it was such a stereotypicall y horrible boy band song from  a stereotypicall y bad boy band. Itís everything I hate about boy bands in one video, including the obligatory horrid rapping lol good lord! Iím not sure why Boys to Men were in there. Just leave them and BSB out of your homage to awfulness. I have strong feelings lol loved that Deborah was in the video too.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 11:17:12 AM
Cracking up at your review of the NKOTB video, Mare!

I'm not a huggy, touchy-feely person either.  I don't mind hugs, but I'm not usually the one to initiate them.  I would not enjoy getting hugged and touched all the time by total strangers.  The Boys have become very tolerant with that kind of stuff - god bless them, LOL.

Those prices for Janet Jackson, Lady Gaga, etc. are ridiculous!  I think BSB charging $500 for their VIP is ridiculous too, considering we've gotten more for way less on past tours.  I won't pay that kind of money.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on March 03, 2019, 02:45:21 PM
I think I've caught most of the interviews.  It still surprises me that they are all in agreement over If You Want It To Be Good Girl being their WORST song.  Really?!  It's a stupid song, don't get me wrong, but it's also catchy and fun.  I love it!  They have definitely recorded much worse, some of which they put on their albums!

What do you think is the worst officially released BSB song?  I'd have to go with She's a Dream.  I hate everything about that song, from the music/melody to the stupid Shorty lyrics.  Its only redeeming quality is that I got a good challenge story out of making fun of it.

I can't stand She's A Dream, it's just awful.  There are a few others I'm not keen on either, but that's the worst


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on March 03, 2019, 02:53:58 PM
I shamelessly love that NKOTB video and song. LOL.

I think it's cool that the guys are so accessible now. Back when I was a kid it seemed impossible and almost like they weren't human at times. There was seemingly no way to get in touch with them or even figure out how. In 1998 my dad was high up at our airport and tried to figure out a way that me and my sister could meet the boys when they came to town for our show. But even that didn't work out (and I didn't find out that he'd tried that until years later, actually). Compare to now, people meet them in airports constantly, and provided you have the money it's easy to get a m&g ticket. Even with twitter it is relatively easy to get the boys attention if you want it.

However, I think the accessibility has its own issues. I don't follow many BSB fans anymore, but some of the guys in 1D reply to their indirects and it is the most annoying thing in the universe. For one, it fills up my timeline with "niall, how is your acid reflux doing today?!?!" and other such nonsense. It also fosters this idea that they're somehow our friend? I've seen lots of people say they consider Niall or Louis or whoever their best friend. It creeps me out tbh.

I thought that BSB walked the line really well in the Unbreakable era. M&g was a reasonable price, and you got the soundcheck with it. That was a bit before Twitter took off, so there was none of that and there was still reasonable separation between fan and band. Don't get me wrong, I like twitter and I like seeing updates on how music is going and that kind of behind the scenes stuff. But when it becomes this weird competition, it loses some of its fun and some of the magic is gone.

Also those prices for Janet Jackson and Lady Gaga are ridiculous lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on March 03, 2019, 03:00:52 PM
I'd never pay those kind of prices to meet someone famous, it's ridiculous!  I'd also never pay for BSB meet and greets either as they are too expensive.  If money was no problem I would though 😊

I've not heard NKOTB's new song, didn't realise they were still around


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 03, 2019, 03:38:04 PM
I shamelessly love that NKOTB video and song. LOL.

I think it's cool that the guys are so accessible now. Back when I was a kid it seemed impossible and almost like they weren't human at times. There was seemingly no way to get in touch with them or even figure out how. In 1998 my dad was high up at our airport and tried to figure out a way that me and my sister could meet the boys when they came to town for our show. But even that didn't work out (and I didn't find out that he'd tried that until years later, actually). Compare to now, people meet them in airports constantly, and provided you have the money it's easy to get a m&g ticket. Even with twitter it is relatively easy to get the boys attention if you want it.

However, I think the accessibility has its own issues. I don't follow many BSB fans anymore, but some of the guys in 1D reply to their indirects and it is the most annoying thing in the universe. For one, it fills up my timeline with "niall, how is your acid reflux doing today?!?!" and other such nonsense. It also fosters this idea that they're somehow our friend? I've seen lots of people say they consider Niall or Louis or whoever their best friend. It creeps me out tbh.

I thought that BSB walked the line really well in the Unbreakable era. M&g was a reasonable price, and you got the soundcheck with it. That was a bit before Twitter took off, so there was none of that and there was still reasonable separation between fan and band. Don't get me wrong, I like twitter and I like seeing updates on how music is going and that kind of behind the scenes stuff. But when it becomes this weird competition, it loses some of its fun and some of the magic is gone.

Also those prices for Janet Jackson and Lady Gaga are ridiculous lol.

You are so right about artists being too available to their fans via twitter especially. One of the main reasons I stopped following so many fans was because they were creeping me out. It seemed like once one of them tweeted something, everyone on Godís green earth would start joking around with them as if they were old friends or begging for a follow. It would take me forever to scroll through all those posts just to see what my friends were up to.  lol

BSB charge way too much for their VIP and their tickets for Vegas as well. At least the good ones like the tables or real seats. I get maybe GA is cheap but for people like me who canít do it, itís way too much money. I feel like everyone is inflating their ticket prices. Itís gotten pretty obnoxious. I know Iím a cheap ass and should probably spend things on experiences yada yada but I refuse to pay for more than $200 for a concert. Not while I know that money should be going to bills and medicine. My stupid brain wonít allow me to think any other way. Lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 04:52:11 PM
I can't stand She's A Dream, it's just awful.  There are a few others I'm not keen on either, but that's the worst

So funny... I don't know if you guys got the show The Masked Singer in the UK, but (SPOILER ALERT) T-Pain turned out to be the winner.  I knew T-Pain had written a song for BSB, but couldn't remember which one, so I looked it up... and whaddya know, it's the worst song BSB has ever put on an album, She's a Dream!  I actually really liked him on The Masked Singer though!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 05:00:54 PM
I shamelessly love that NKOTB video and song. LOL.

I think it's cool that the guys are so accessible now. Back when I was a kid it seemed impossible and almost like they weren't human at times. There was seemingly no way to get in touch with them or even figure out how. In 1998 my dad was high up at our airport and tried to figure out a way that me and my sister could meet the boys when they came to town for our show. But even that didn't work out (and I didn't find out that he'd tried that until years later, actually). Compare to now, people meet them in airports constantly, and provided you have the money it's easy to get a m&g ticket. Even with twitter it is relatively easy to get the boys attention if you want it.

However, I think the accessibility has its own issues. I don't follow many BSB fans anymore, but some of the guys in 1D reply to their indirects and it is the most annoying thing in the universe. For one, it fills up my timeline with "niall, how is your acid reflux doing today?!?!" and other such nonsense. It also fosters this idea that they're somehow our friend? I've seen lots of people say they consider Niall or Louis or whoever their best friend. It creeps me out tbh.

I thought that BSB walked the line really well in the Unbreakable era. M&g was a reasonable price, and you got the soundcheck with it. That was a bit before Twitter took off, so there was none of that and there was still reasonable separation between fan and band. Don't get me wrong, I like twitter and I like seeing updates on how music is going and that kind of behind the scenes stuff. But when it becomes this weird competition, it loses some of its fun and some of the magic is gone.

Also those prices for Janet Jackson and Lady Gaga are ridiculous lol.

Aww, that is so cute that your dad tried so hard to help you meet them!  The things dads will do for their daughters...  My dad manages a store at one of the local malls, so he used to dutifully pick up the new albums that I had pre-ordered at Sam Goody on release day for me.  He also went to a BSB concert, a Nick solo show, and a Brian solo show solely out of love for me LOL.

Nick can get annoying with his tweeting sprees replying to fans, too.  The other day when he was so bored, it took me forever just to scroll through my BSB list because of all of his replies.  He's sweet for taking the time to do that, but it also just encourages people to beg for his attention even more.

I agree, Unbreakable was the best as far as VIP goes.  That's when you could still win the soundcheck party too.  The only negatives were the barrier and no Kevin.  I wish they would go back to how they did it for This is Us and IAWLT, with the different levels, some of which were pretty reasonably priced.  Seeing the soundcheck was my favorite part!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
You are so right about artists being too available to their fans via twitter especially. One of the main reasons I stopped following so many fans was because they were creeping me out. It seemed like once one of them tweeted something, everyone on Godís green earth would start joking around with them as if they were old friends or begging for a follow. It would take me forever to scroll through all those posts just to see what my friends were up to.  lol

BSB charge way too much for their VIP and their tickets for Vegas as well. At least the good ones like the tables or real seats. I get maybe GA is cheap but for people like me who canít do it, itís way too much money. I feel like everyone is inflating their ticket prices. Itís gotten pretty obnoxious. I know Iím a cheap ass and should probably spend things on experiences yada yada but I refuse to pay for more than $200 for a concert. Not while I know that money should be going to bills and medicine. My stupid brain wonít allow me to think any other way. Lol

Lists are my best friend on Twitter!  It takes too long to get through my entire timeline, so I have lists of people whose tweets I actually care to read.

One thing I will never get is the people who spend so much time and energy begging the Boys to follow them.  Do they actually think they will become friends with the guys if they follow them?  Nick has followed so many fans, there's no way he can possibly read all their tweets.  He just reads and replies at random when he's bored.  But I guess at least we know it's really Nick.  Remember all the posers there used to be on AIM?  People would legit think they were IMing with Backstreet Boys, LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 03, 2019, 05:23:34 PM
I remember that! So many imposter Nicks Lol

I never thought to make a list. You know for as long as Iíve been on Twitter, I still donít totally get it and havenít really explored it all that much. I donít get the begging for follows either or people begging for people just in case Nick doesnít see the original beggars, so now you have beggars begging for beggars. What I really donít get are the people who complain about Nick or any of the others but still beg for follows. That is just confusing. I hate you but I love you!

Again, I do get how maybe a tweet can make someoneís day but there are a lot of really crazy people out there that mistake those random tweets for friendship. Especially if it happens more than once. That would be another way Iíd be a horrible celebrity. I doubt Iíd ever follow my fans or reply to them. I just hate people too much lol 😳


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 05:57:27 PM
Lists are great!  I have a list for just the Boys and their wives, a list for my friends, a list for Cubs players, a list for Walking Dead actors, etc.  When I'm trying to catch up on the important stuff and don't feel like scrolling through my full timeline, it makes it easier to sort through and only see the tweets I actually care about.

Even as adults, some BSB fans are still pretty delusional!

I came on here to link you to this video, Mare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2y1__5_To  I just watched it on Rose's blog.  It's the guys singing This Is Us, and AJ does "the scissors, the scissors" complete with hand gestures during the second chorus, LOL.  Either I have never seen this before or just never noticed that part because I don't tend to focus on AJ when Brian and Nick are in the same frame LOL, but he's totally on the same page with you.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 04, 2019, 12:21:34 AM
Hm. I think if I were famous I'd still be active on social media. I do love seeing those peeks into the boys lives like when they share videos of their kids or pets. Those are great. It makes them seem more human to me.

I get annoyed with Nick sometimes during those follow sprees but be follows most of the people I follow LOL

I still get paranoid about what I tweet sometimes because he's replied to me without me tagging him before so I know he does read his timeline on occasion.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 04, 2019, 05:06:46 AM
Lists are great!  I have a list for just the Boys and their wives, a list for my friends, a list for Cubs players, a list for Walking Dead actors, etc.  When I'm trying to catch up on the important stuff and don't feel like scrolling through my full timeline, it makes it easier to sort through and only see the tweets I actually care about.

Even as adults, some BSB fans are still pretty delusional!

I came on here to link you to this video, Mare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2y1__5_To  I just watched it on Rose's blog.  It's the guys singing This Is Us, and AJ does "the scissors, the scissors" complete with hand gestures during the second chorus, LOL.  Either I have never seen this before or just never noticed that part because I don't tend to focus on AJ when Brian and Nick are in the same frame LOL, but he's totally on the same page with you.

Lol nice to see AJ gets it too! Enunciate boys!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 04, 2019, 07:32:36 AM
I never noticed AJ doing that and now I gotta rewatch it just for that. Poor AJ, if Nick is in frame my focus is always him lmao.

Honestly I don't get the asking for tweets/follows. Nick follows me but that was random as hell. I tweeted like, a thank you for being sweet to fans. Next thing I knew he was following me. Or like asking for birthday tweets. I've gotten them, but I've never tweeted him specifically about my bday or anything so I'm not quite sure how he knew LOL.

The Nick following is such a double edged sword. Like it's cool and sometimes I've tweeted jokes with friends and Nick's jumped in on the convo once or twice cause he follows us both. But it's made me very aware of what I tweet, which sucks cause I don't want him to accidentally see it and think I'm nuts LOL. At least with Howie he's barely on twitter so I don't care as much.

Kevin tweets a lot of fans but he doesn't follow any, and he's said on twitter it's because he wants to be fair. I think that's a good move. He sees a lot cause he's liked tweets that I don't tag him in on the TDS twitter so I feel like he has lists himself LOL but doesn't get his timeline clogged by following fans.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on March 04, 2019, 01:47:04 PM
I must start using Twitter again, not been on there for years!  But I can just imagine the nutty fans begging for tweets lol.  Kevin has the right idea I suppose, better to follow no fans than have begs for follows


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 04, 2019, 02:11:29 PM
Me the Backstreet boys follow me on Twitter, but I wish Brian can send me just a little hello, but he doesnít respond to fans.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 04, 2019, 06:24:28 PM
Brian only responds to selective fans... mainly just one.  Nick and Kevin reply randomly.  Howie and AJ don't really seem to tweet fans at all, at least from what I see.  They can't please everyone, but either replying randomly or not following fans at all seems to be the fairest way to do it.

The BSB account follows me, but I don't think it's usually any of the Boys tweeting from that account, so I don't worry about that one.  I honestly don't want any of the guys following me on the off chance that they might see one of my tweets about my weird, inappropriate fanfics.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 04, 2019, 07:27:18 PM
I know for Brian for the selective fans and you are the best for the fanfics. I really hope to write with you again someday!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 04, 2019, 10:13:32 PM
Thank you! :)  I enjoyed writing with you, but I'm not looking to start another new project anytime soon.  I'm trying to stick to one story at a time.  Do you have any stories in progress?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 04, 2019, 11:10:25 PM
You are welcome! I love so much youíre new fanfic! I have one, but my health is not good right now, so it is difficult to write.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 04, 2019, 11:14:07 PM
I've gotten tweets from all the boys but AJ. I hate the begging but usually I'll just tweet them random stuff and see if they reply lol that's how Nick responds usually. I'll tweet him something strange and that will get a response, but if I beg be doesn't answer
Kinda odd how that works.

When Brian was active on twitter I have gotten replies from him, and I got one sort of like the other week when I tweeted a Frick and Frack picture. My friend and I had a conversation and he replied to both of us. I still got excited even though technically it wasn't "to" me.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 05, 2019, 01:04:59 AM
You are lucky to have replies from Brian! He is my hero since I discovered the group


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 05, 2019, 03:22:14 AM
Back when Brian replied more randomly to fans, I got replies. Like when my twitter was new LOL.

These days he keeps himself on IG.

AJ is really...odd. Like twitter wise, I don't know.

What I've learned through my fan accounts is turn off your notifications if a Backstreet Boy happens to retweet you. The first time that happened, I think it was Kevin. My phone blew up and I was so confused till I figured out what happened lmao. I think it got over a thousand likes or something. It was nuts. I don't get how any BSB can sort out replies within all that, which is why I roll my eyes at fans who complain they're ignored if they don't get a reply.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 05, 2019, 08:24:37 PM
You are welcome! I love so much youíre new fanfic! I have one, but my health is not good right now, so it is difficult to write.

Thank you!  I'm sorry to hear that; I bet that does make it difficult.  I hope things improve with your health soon!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 05, 2019, 08:27:49 PM
I've gotten tweets from all the boys but AJ. I hate the begging but usually I'll just tweet them random stuff and see if they reply lol that's how Nick responds usually. I'll tweet him something strange and that will get a response, but if I beg be doesn't answer
Kinda odd how that works.

That actually makes total sense to me.  If I were him, I would intentionally ignore the ones begging so as not to reward that obnoxious behavior and reply to one of the normal, polite ones instead.  It's kinda like the teacher move of ignoring the kid who's jumping up out of their seat going "Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!" and calling on the kid who's sitting quietly with their hand raised instead, LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 05, 2019, 10:01:44 PM
Yeah there was one time where everybody was tweeting Nick about the Christmas shows they were doing that year. So I said I can't go I gotta make the tacos at work, someone has to. He replies with "mmm tacos"

Another time I tweeted Brian that I was going to sleep and he was just waking up so he tells me to go to bed.

I feel like they like to respond to random stuff rather than  omg tweet me or l will die!!!!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 05, 2019, 10:37:23 PM
RokofAges75: you are welcome! I donít think so I have a degenerative illness


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 05, 2019, 10:38:54 PM
So sorry to hear that! :(


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 05, 2019, 11:23:38 PM
RokofAges75: thanks


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2019, 01:05:06 AM
Sorry to hear about your health. I hope things get better for you.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 06, 2019, 01:19:17 AM
Thank you


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Post by: Rose on March 06, 2019, 02:35:20 AM
Yeah there was one time where everybody was tweeting Nick about the Christmas shows they were doing that year. So I said I can't go I gotta make the tacos at work, someone has to. He replies with "mmm tacos"

Another time I tweeted Brian that I was going to sleep and he was just waking up so he tells me to go to bed.

I feel like they like to respond to random stuff rather than  omg tweet me or l will die!!!!!

Literally my tweeting life most days. Sometimes I tweet nice things, like today to let them know as a fan, I appreciate what they do.


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Post by: Rose on March 06, 2019, 02:35:45 AM
RokofAges75: you are welcome! I donít think so I have a degenerative illness

I hope things change for the better for you.


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Post by: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2019, 07:44:38 AM
Literally my tweeting life most days. Sometimes I tweet nice things, like today to let them know as a fan, I appreciate what they do.

I feel that they appreciate those tweets more than the ones begging for a tweet or follow. Because they should know how much we appreciate them. I love to tell them how much they helped me and inspire me daily. I feel like the encouragement is good for them.


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Post by: mare on March 06, 2019, 08:58:27 AM
I have to say that my very first fandom obsession who I have loved  long before the Backstreet Boys replied to one of my tweets last night. So we are now either BFFs or he might be madly in love with me, I havenít figured out which one yet. BSB better step up their game is all Iím saying. Lol 🤭


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Post by: Carter-Orange on March 06, 2019, 02:00:58 PM
Well done Mare for getting a tweet from your first fandom love :)

They've never liked anything of mine, but then again I'm not on Twitter and my Instagram is private, so I can't expect anything lol.  But Lauren liked one of my comments on her Instagram


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Post by: Mistral on March 06, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Rose: thank you


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Post by: mare on March 06, 2019, 04:00:07 PM
RokofAges75: you are welcome! I donít think so I have a degenerative illness

I completely understand. Just do the best you can and I hope you have more good days than bad ones.


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Post by: Mistral on March 06, 2019, 08:32:11 PM
Mare: yes I do my my best and yes I hope Iím gonna have more good days than bad days


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2019, 11:05:26 PM
I have gotten replies on Twitter from two of my favorites when I was a tween, Lurlene McDaniel and Kel Mitchell, and that was really cool!  In both cases, I wasn't trying to actually talk to them, more just tagging them in a tweet about them, and they saw it and replied!  I always just assume "celebrities" get so many mention they don't have time to actually read them, so it's nice when they actually do notice and respond to some.


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Post by: Mistral on March 07, 2019, 12:18:28 AM
Me I receives couples of replies of my favorite cheerleaders


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Post by: mare on March 07, 2019, 02:58:43 AM
I have gotten replies on Twitter from two of my favorites when I was a tween, Lurlene McDaniel and Kel Mitchell, and that was really cool!  In both cases, I wasn't trying to actually talk to them, more just tagging them in a tweet about them, and they saw it and replied!  I always just assume "celebrities" get so many mention they don't have time to actually read them, so it's nice when they actually do notice and respond to some.

Same. I was just saying how happy I was to see him (Adrian Paul) back on my TV after all these years. Heís on Arrow playing the new big bad villain. I also mentioned how I wiish the lead would find a long lost brother instead of another long lost sister and he replied with sisters sell more tickets...lol

Iím just glad I didnít mention eye candy lol Arrow has gone too female


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Post by: smh1105 on March 09, 2019, 03:51:31 PM
I've been so busy this past week and a half, I feel like I have missed so much on here. lol Work is kicking my butt, but I really need the money. I'm hoping I can get around to writing more of my story too. I feel stuck on it though. Not sure how to write the next part, but I have tons of ideas for later in the story lol


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 09, 2019, 03:57:15 PM
That is always me with writing, too - I have so many ideas for the middle and end of the story, but getting there is the hard part.


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Post by: smh1105 on March 09, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
Exactly, and then sometimes i'll get carried away with writing about every little detail that's not necessary for the story.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 09, 2019, 08:40:06 PM
Ha, guilty of that too!


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Post by: FrickingKaos on March 09, 2019, 11:48:36 PM
I get like that with my writing too. With the story I'm currently working on, I have whole scenes written for chapters that are a long ways off. Lol. The chapter I had just posted, I'd written about a year or so ago before I even was ready to post.

Sometimes that works for me, and then I have to work on filling those gaps. Plus sometimes I get hung up on the ending. So I totally get it.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 10, 2019, 11:27:53 AM
I was going to ask if any of you write ahead and then go back to fill in the gaps.  I've never been able to do that; I pretty much always write my stories in order.


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Post by: FrickingKaos on March 10, 2019, 02:57:08 PM
For most of my stories I do write in order. Just before I decided to add in real events and follow a timeline to make the story realistic, I wrote some scenes to see if I could actually make this work. I'm writing in order now. But sometimes for development purposes I do write a scene ahead of time.


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Post by: smh1105 on March 10, 2019, 08:14:27 PM
I try to write in order, but if I think of a good idea for later in the story I will write a quick outline for it. I try to avoid writing out the whole scene, otherwise I might get distracted and keep writing from that scene on.


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Post by: Rose on March 11, 2019, 06:47:28 AM
I've only done that for an epilogue once, just because I knew exactly how I wanted it to end. I edited it a little bit when I got there but I was glad I kept the idea I'd wanted for it.


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Post by: julilly on March 17, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
LOL I don't get it either.  I know you guys were spending a long time trying to delete them all.  If Julilly's able to figure out where to add the challenge question or require new members to change their password, it sounds like that may cut down on their ability to actually leave spam reviews.  They'll still be able to make an account; they just won't be able to use it.

Our passwords have always been randomly generated. We actually have all the mods we can put on this version of efiction and it just can't block them all. There's been 2300 blocked attempts to start accounts this week thanks to the Bad Behavior mod but just as many that got through.

I have never added the chapter review notice mod because it emails a single address and don't think having every review emailed to Mare and I is really going to help when we still have to manually go in and delete them all.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 17, 2019, 04:24:56 PM
Our passwords have always been randomly generated. We actually have all the mods we can put on this version of efiction and it just can't block them all. There's been 2300 blocked attempts to start accounts this week thanks to the Bad Behavior mod but just as many that got through.

I have never added the chapter review notice mod because it emails a single address and don't think having every review emailed to Mare and I is really going to help when we still have to manually go in and delete them all.

That is so frustrating!  No, the chapter review notice mod doesn't seem very practical if it means you and Mare would have to manually approve or delete every review.  Way too time-consuming!

Is adding a challenge question to the registration process an option?  It was mentioned on that thread I linked a few pages back, but here is another thread with more info on how to do it: https://efiction.org/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=8obo0c3m1nenph742p3gfrmfq3&topic=9121.0  I'm not sure how easy that is to do or if it would work with the version of eFiction you're using.  Just looking for possible solutions to the problem that wouldn't make more work for the mods once set up.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 19, 2019, 06:05:50 PM
Have you guys been watching the BSB 23 Chromosomes episodes?  The one they posted today is called "Albums," and yet it's just Nick talking about This Is Us and a little bit about DNA.  What about all the other albums??  Where are the other boys??  Why are these episodes only a minute long??  I feel cheated! LOL

I would love to know Kevin's honest opinions about the two albums they recorded while he was taking his break.  I know he likes the song Undone, but how does he feel about She's a Dream and PDA?  What's his favorite song on Unbreakable?  They should have interviewed Kevin for this episode!


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Post by: Rose on March 20, 2019, 02:25:43 AM
LOL I felt a bit vindicated. I know I'm rare in that I enjoyed (as a whole) This Is Us more than Never Gone. And it's nice Nick has it as a favorite! (It's not my favorite, that honor belongs to Millennium, but not the point lol.) But I do think they should've expanded.

I've been DYING to get Kevin's opinion on Unbreakable. He talks about STMH, he talks about Undone, and I think If I Knew Then (this one I might be wrong on). But he's never said boo about Unbreakable and I'd love to know his thoughts on it.


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Post by: mare on March 23, 2019, 05:15:42 AM
Those chromosomes episodes have been underwhelming. Itís like they donít fully get what an episode is. Itís more like a commercial than an episode. As soon as they suck me in, itís over. It seems like theyíll each be taking an Ďepisodeí by themselves now since it was only Brian on the last one.

I cringed when Nick mentioned The Scissors. That album is just full of no!

Iíd love to hear Kevinís opinion on everything, I mean...everyth ing lol someone needs to get Kevin drunk and then interview him.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 23, 2019, 12:57:23 PM
I agree; they're too short!!  Something is better than nothing, but still, it wouldn't be that hard to put together a ten minute episode featuring interviews with all five of them.

A drunk Kevin interview would be the best!!


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Post by: Mistral on March 23, 2019, 05:01:47 PM
Have you see the video of Kevin drunk in Montreal?


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 23, 2019, 07:30:47 PM
I don't think so...  Do you have a link?


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Post by: Mistral on March 23, 2019, 07:46:10 PM
Yes! Here the link: https://youtu.be/O3304n-8pqI


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 23, 2019, 08:06:21 PM
Haha!!  I have seen that before.  Drunk Kevin cracks me up!


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Post by: Mistral on March 23, 2019, 08:11:05 PM
It was at the beginning when they come to Montreal


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 02, 2019, 06:40:20 PM
What's up, everybody?  I hate when we go more than a week without any conversation on here!

Here's some writing questions related to the setting of your stories:

Do you tend to use real settings (real towns, restaurants, etc.) or make them up?  If you use real, are they places you've actually been, or do you have to research?  If you make them up, describe what that process is like.  Do you draw on any real life inspiration?

What have been some of your favorite and least favorite settings to write in your stories?

Do you prefer writing stories that are mostly set in one place or stories with lots of different settings?

Do you have any favorite settings of stories you've read?


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Post by: Mistral on April 02, 2019, 07:20:39 PM
Hi!

Yes I prefer place that I know when I write a story and yes I do a lot of research. I like a lot the hospital place in a story!


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Post by: mare on April 06, 2019, 04:54:04 AM
I donít know why this thread was locked so I reopened it. Commence discussions!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 07, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
Thanks!

As far as setting go, I usually use real settings.  Sometimes I will make up restaurants, bars, etc., but I almost always use real cities/towns and try to write them realistically.  I haven't been to a lot of the cities I end up writing about because of where the Boys live and tour, but that's what the internet is for.  Google Maps is a lifesaver when it comes to researching the look and layout of places.  I'm like Mistral in loving hospital settings too.  Almost all of my novels have at least one hospital scene in them somewhere.

Some of my favorite settings to write were in Song for the Undead.  Most of the story took place at the MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, and Rose and I did a ton of research to write that as accurately as we could.  I had a printed map of the base sitting by my computer for years that I would reference as I wrote scenes for that story.  We also worked in other settings as our characters traveled, including a castle in England.  It was fun to think about different kinds of places our characters could shelter in in the midst of the zombie apocalypse, and the variety made it fun and kept things interesting.

I can't think of a least favorite setting offhand, but I am finding that I prefer stories with multiple settings to stories set in one place.  The one I'm working on now mostly takes place in one room, and that has gotten pretty boring.  I've always had a lot of respect for writers that can write a whole novel or screenplay set in one small place and make it interesting, and this has only reaffirmed that respect.

Along those lines, I loved Mare's use of setting in Hope is the Last Thing Ever Lost.  That whole novel mostly just took place in the Boys' van, Tim's cabin, and the woods between the two, and yet, it was such a gripping page-turner and never got boring.  Save a Prayer by Steph also has a great setting, with the guys trying to survive in the jungle after their plane crashes.  I love settings that are different, not just the usual tour bus or big cities.


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Post by: Mistral on April 07, 2019, 11:42:37 AM
I love youíre fanfic too! You have a real talent to write and your stories are always so good to read!!

Read fanfic always help me to focus on something else when I receive my medical treatment and I have blank page syndrom on my own fanfic right now.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 07, 2019, 12:02:13 PM
Thanks!  Fanfic can be a great distraction.  I hate blank page syndrome! 


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Post by: Mistral on April 07, 2019, 02:47:48 PM
Yes blank page syndrom suck! I cannot wait it stop so I can continue to write!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 09, 2019, 07:29:02 PM
Did everyone hear the Boys are supposedly working on a Christmas album?  I wonder if it will actually be released in time for Christmas this year, or we should assume Backstreet Time will bump it back to Christmas 2020.

Do you prefer covers of classic Christmas songs or original songs on pop Christmas albums?  What classics do you hope they'll record?


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Post by: Mistral on April 09, 2019, 08:01:20 PM
Iím gonna be so happy if they record a christmas album! Classic Christmas songs for me! Feliz navidad is my favorite christmas song.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 09, 2019, 08:09:32 PM
I'm excited it's finally happening!  They've talked about doing a Christmas album so many times, but they sounded serious this time, like it's already in the works.  It's Christmas Time Again is seriously one of my favorite BSB songs (I listen to it all year round), so I hope there are more original songs like that!  As far as classics go, one of my favorites is Do You Hear What I Hear - great song for a group!  I love O Holy Night, Carol of the Bells, and The Little Drummer Boy too.


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Post by: Mistral on April 09, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
Yes carol of the bells!!

I find on amazon the CD for the fans the guys do with burger king and I buy it last weekend!


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Post by: Sakabelle on April 10, 2019, 08:12:54 AM
I would DIE for them to do a Christmas album with more classic songs. I hadn't heard that they were working on that so thank you for sharing!! If they did classic songs I would just... I would die. LOL. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen and O Holy Night in particular. Just putting that into the universe.

As for setting,

Do you tend to use real settings (real towns, restaurants, etc.) or make them up?  If you use real, are they places you've actually been, or do you have to research?  If you make them up, describe what that process is like.  Do you draw on any real life inspiration?
I try to use real places whenever possible and spend an unreasonable amount of time doing research. If I can't use a real place (like, someone's house or whatever) I'll imagine a place that I've been that has a similar vibe I'm going for an build off that. But, Google really helps and it's easily to get a feel for places I've never been to through photos and videos.

What have been some of your favorite and least favorite settings to write in your stories?

Least favourite setting is writing about Florida. I don't know why, maybe I'm just burnt out from so many BSB fics set there. But I don't find it to be that overly interesting of a place to write about.

I also don't particularly enjoy writing about LA, so I keep my fics away from there as much as I can. If I need to use a big city I'll use London now since in real life most of my 1D characters tend to bounce back and forth between London and LA anyway. I do like writing about London, I have been there a few times now and can picture central London and south London quite well and I get the vibe of it. Niall actually lives quite close to where my husband's uncle lives in London, which is where we always stay. So I always just give Niall that house LOL.

Do you prefer writing stories that are mostly set in one place or stories with lots of different settings?

Different settings for sure. It helps me keep the story moving along as the characters move along. Even in AU I've had them in hotels or travelling. I did a backpacker AU and a World Cup AU so that says something about the type of settings I enjoy. I find it hard to naturally find ways to do different types of scenes if the characters are all in one place all the time. Even in Running Up That Hill, the boys didn't move around _that_ much, but they were at least each in a different city for the most part.

Do you have any favorite settings of stories you've read?
I loved the camp setting of Mare's Million Little Things. Just in awe of how easy she made it look to write an interesting story set in one place with minimal... interference? If that makes sense. The setting was just there and sat around the plot nicely without being invasive.

I'm also reading a fic right now that's set in NYC. Again, it's all in one place and it's a place I've never actually been to, so it's been interesting to read about it and learn about the city along the way. For the same reason I loved Mare's story, the setting is so effortlessly executed but being in NYC is important to the plot.

Suppose I should ask a question to keep this going! Now that we've had DNA for roughly 4 months, how have your favourites changed from the initial listen? Are they the same, different?


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 10, 2019, 09:58:22 PM
God Rest Ye Merry Gentleman is another good one!

I agree about Florida and LA getting boring to write as settings.  I don't particularly enjoy writing tours, but I at least appreciate being able to change up the setting that way.

As to your question about DNA, my favorites are pretty much the same.  Passionate is my favorite track on the album, but Don't Go Breaking My Heart has hung in there as one of the best uptempos as well.  I still love New Love, Chances, No Place, and The Way It Was too, and I still don't have any skip songs.


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Post by: mare on April 12, 2019, 05:37:52 PM
Thanks for the mentions ladies! I guess I do tend to set many of my stories in one main location. I never really thought about it until you guys mentioned those two stories. It Stays With You mainly took place in a hotel room. the Apartment only took place in an apartment. Fly Fishing was at a lake and a car, Long Road Home was a car ride. Iím sure there are more.

When I wrote, I never really thought about locations that much. When I did pick a specific location, it always was a real place that I was semi familiar with, although with all the stories I focused on the out doors and camping, I can honestly say Iíve never Been camping in my life lol
 
One story that comes to my mind having to do with location and how well it fit into the story was Seven Days. It all took place in the woods and it was riveting.


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Post by: mare on April 12, 2019, 05:42:14 PM
As far as a Christmas album goes...

Not be all stereotypical music teacher, but Iím not a huge fan of Christmas music. I donít listen to it because itís literally my life from October until Christmas. When Iím not singing these songs all day long or listening to them being played and sung ad naseum, The last thing I want to do is listen to it when I donít have to. Itíll be nice  having them make a Christmas album, but I prefer an all a capella album instead.


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Post by: mare on April 12, 2019, 05:44:47 PM
Last question about the album. Sadly, I really havenít listened to it in awhile, but itís going to be played a lot on my upcoming trek to Buffalo. My feelings about it hasnít changed. I still love Passionate and Real Love. Thereís still no skip songs for me and I still think itís one of their best albums ever.


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Post by: Mistral on April 12, 2019, 06:37:25 PM
I really like chances, donít go breaking my heart and no place. I didnít have the chance to hear the full album for the moment.


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Post by: FrickingKaos on April 13, 2019, 02:13:32 AM
The setting question is pretty interesting.

I've had so many that I've written... For a story I wrote, a personal favorite setting for me was the college Nick and Brian went to in Finding Carter. Describing a college setting was a challenge for me because I had never been to college.

Also when they took the trip to Disney World. Again, it was hard because I'd not been there yet at the time the story was written. I've been there since and it was just as I pictured it if not more amazing.

I also tend to write about NYC often as I do go there often. It's kind of a comfort zone for me.


For a setting I read, I really enjoyed a lot of the settings in 00Carter. I love descriptions.


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Post by: Rose on April 13, 2019, 08:56:50 PM
I think my favorite setting was also in Undead. When I moved into my current apt I found my map of MacDill that I had printed out lol, due to the endless research Julie and I did.

I tend to write with California as a setting. I know it well due to a lot of family living out there though now I could write a present day Nick fic here in Vegas if I wanted LOL. But I'm not afraid of writing areas I don't know cause with the right amount of research I think you can pull it off.

My feelings about DNA are about the same. I love Passionate, The Way It Was, and New Love the most - along with bonus track Do You Remember. But I still play the album often without skipping songs which make it a solid.

I'm hyped about the Christmas album. I love Christmas music so that is WAY overdue for me.



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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 13, 2019, 09:35:25 PM
For a setting I read, I really enjoyed a lot of the settings in 00Carter. I love descriptions.

Thanks!  We've had a lot of fun with settings in that story too.  Our characters have literally been on every continent, so it's been fun to research different places around the world.  I learned a lot about Antarctica from researching for the Ice Ice Baby episode.  My favorite setting from that story had to be Disney World though.  That was fun research too!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 14, 2019, 03:49:22 PM
Random, but I just noticed on the main site, it says "A special welcome to our newest member, ray ban clubmaster tortoise 51."  You might as well call yourself Spammy McSpamerson with that username, but I couldn't help but laugh at the mental image it gave me of a turtle in sunglasses spinning records at the club. 


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Post by: Sakabelle on April 15, 2019, 10:39:23 AM
My feelings about DNA are about the same. I love Passionate, The Way It Was, and New Love the most - along with bonus track Do You Remember. But I still play the album often without skipping songs which make it a solid.

Literally same, just replace Do You Remember with Best Days! That line Nick sings in New Love is possibly my favourite vocal of his on the album. "I want all of you all over me~~~ in any dark roo~~oo~~om" LOL. I got the album on Vinyl but I haven't had a chance to bust it out yet and listen all the way through with my good headphones. I'm excited to do so, maybe on the long weekend.


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Post by: Rose on April 15, 2019, 02:54:21 PM
Literally same, just replace Do You Remember with Best Days! That line Nick sings in New Love is possibly my favourite vocal of his on the album. "I want all of you all over me~~~ in any dark roo~~oo~~om" LOL. I got the album on Vinyl but I haven't had a chance to bust it out yet and listen all the way through with my good headphones. I'm excited to do so, maybe on the long weekend.

I love Nick on New Love. That song in itself vocally is very different from what they normally do. And it's in such a good way. It's what PDA tried to be lyrically, only New Love actually pulls it off.


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Post by: elleinad on April 15, 2019, 08:29:00 PM
I love Nick on New Love. That song in itself vocally is very different from what they normally do. And it's in such a good way. It's what PDA tried to be lyrically, only New Love actually pulls it off.

you are so right about this. PDA makes me cringe lol ???


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Post by: elleinad on April 15, 2019, 08:31:58 PM
Last question about the album. Sadly, I really havenít listened to it in awhile, but itís going to be played a lot on my upcoming trek to Buffalo. My feelings about it hasnít changed. I still love Passionate and Real Love. Thereís still no skip songs for me and I still think itís one of their best albums ever.

I love all the songs but my absolute favorite is Just Like You Like It ... AJ's voice on that is pure gold.

My top 3 are probably JLYLI, Chances and the way it was.

Overall i think Nick's voice got showcased in a lot of ways on this album and he got to show off how dynamic his voice is.



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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 15, 2019, 10:43:09 PM
New Love is so much better musically and lyrically than PDA!  The lyrics are actually sexy as opposed to cringe-worthy.

Nick's voice has gotten better and better as it has matured (and I'm sure the voice lessons he took years ago certainly helped with that too).  I think he's become the best vocalist in the group or at least is tied with AJ.  I love Kevin's voice too, but Nick's is more dynamic.


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Post by: Rose on April 16, 2019, 01:08:54 AM
I agree about Nick currently being tied as the strongest vocalist. You can literally pinpoint the turnaround on TIU which is absolutely Nick's strongest album vocally. He's always been able to belt for ages but now that nasal tendency is gone. Kevin's got such a smoothness to his voice, it's not as dynamic like you said, but I love hearing it. It's a major reason why I love Do You Remember so much. Like, his voice is an old soul - if that makes sense.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on April 23, 2019, 06:09:14 PM
I'm pretty sure that the DNA album is the only album I have ever been able to listen to for this long and not get sick of it at all. Most songs you start to get sick of after hearing so many times (mainly cause of the radio) but I just cant get sick of these songs. For a while I started to not be able to stand songs like QPGWMH, ALAYLM, and even IWITW (I'm a horrible fan for saying that LOL) Now I love listening to them again all the time. And I absolutely loved watching them perform them in person FINALLY! I've watched their concerts so many times on youtube I'm so happy I got to see one live finally.

So what songs do you hope they have put in the set list for the tour that they don't normally do, and what songs from DNA do you hope they pick to do?

I hope they do show 'em what you're made of, I would love to see them do Darlin' (I wanna see/hear Kevin do that talking intro HAHA) or My Beautiful Woman or It's Gotta Be You or I could go on forever with songs LOL
We all know they will most likely do DGBMH, No Place, and Chances, but I hope they do Passionate and They Way It Was. It would be cool if they did like a mash up with The Way It Was and Do You Remember.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 23, 2019, 10:55:53 PM
Great suggestion with My Beautiful Woman!!  One of my favorites on Never Gone and even better live with the choreography.  I would love to see them bring that back!

My two favorite BSB songs are Don't Wanna Lose You Now and Siberia, so of course I will say those, too.  I've been lucky enough to see them sing Siberia live several times, between the NG tour and various soundchecks and cruises they've done that one at, but I can never get enough.  I have only seen them sing DWLYN live once during the Millennium tour, and I don't even really remember it, so it would make my life to be able to hear that one again live.  Another one I've always loved and never heard live in person is Like a Child.

I love how they've brought back random songs on the last couple tours, like Get Another Boyfriend, Undone, 10,000 Promises, and Don't Want You Back.  That gives me hope that they might someday do others that weren't singles.  They actually used to sing a medley of Darlin and Anywhere for You during the residency, but they took those two out at some point.

I was disappointed by some of the songs they didn't do on the IAWLT tour, like Make Believe, One Phone Call, Soldier, and Take Care.  I would love to hear any of those!  Same with Unmistakable and Unsuspecting Sunday Afternoon from Unbreakable.  I know they're getting to the point where they have so many songs, it's probably not reasonable to expect them to do them all, but I do wish they would at least perform all the songs off the album they're touring to support.  I think they should sing In a World Like This again too, since that actually was a single that did reasonably well.  I was surprised they left it out of the residency setlist; it's so great live!

As far as DNA goes, besides the singles, I really hope they do New Love, Passionate, and The Way it Was.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 27, 2019, 05:09:52 PM
Since I couldnít do Vegas and most likely will miss this tour, I really donít care what they do!  :-[ 

But...My Beautiful Woman would be a great one. I swear I listened to that one song on a constant loop on my drive back from Nashville when I went to Brianís golf  event a century ago. My car battery actually died because at the time, my car didnít even have a CD player in it so I had to plug my portable one into the car lighter  and it drained my battery. Lol I sometimes miss my death mobile.

And going back to the skip song question. Post long Buffalo Drive, Iím happy to report there were still no skip songs for me but I played Breathe more than the other songs. I totally forgot about Breathe. I still adore New Love and Passionate as well.

On a side and random note...The Hamilton soundtrack got me all the way from Buffalo to Syracuse. I literally was on the exit ramp from the New York thruway when I hit the last song. Lol I thought that was awesome.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 28, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
I pretty much listened to Beautiful Woman on repeat the whole summer of 2004, when it leaked.  I played it over and over again when I was driving, at work, wherever I was, and I never got sick of it.  I actually prefer that original leaked version to the album version because it's a little faster, but it's still one of my favorites on Never Gone.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 28, 2019, 03:46:52 PM
Me I fall in love with a song that was to be on one if the backstreet boys CD and Nick sing il when il leak on internet. The song is: sick as my secret!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 28, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
I love Sick as My Secrets too!  One of my all-time favorite of the leaked album rejects.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 28, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
Il is one of the best song of Nick!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 04, 2019, 06:59:29 PM
How cute are Nick and Odin together?!  Fatherhood suits Nick.  And to think he used to say he didn't want to get married or have kids!  I love how he's done a complete 180 in the last ten years.

And AJ dancing with his girls... so adorable!!!  I love seeing videos and pics of all the guys with their kids.


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Post by: Mistral on May 04, 2019, 08:36:02 PM
Yes Alex and Nick change their life for the best! Odin, Ava and Lyric are so cute!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 05, 2019, 07:27:46 AM
Itís very sweet. AJ is going to have his hands full with Ava lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 05, 2019, 11:40:25 AM
I feel like she is probably a lot like how AJ was as a kid!  What a little performer.  Probably a little drama queen too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on May 06, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
That video was sooo cute omg. I love how much his girls love Taylor. And AJ jumping in was hilarious.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on May 06, 2019, 06:18:21 PM
I love seeing all the guys interacting with their kids!! All of their kids are so adorable!! I agree about Ava, she is probably a lot like AJ as a kid. Its not too much of a surprise that a lot of them like to sing and perform. James is so cute when he sings. And I cant get over how Baylee could literally be Brian's twin when he was that age! You can tell how proud and happy Nick is to be a dad. Its so generous of them to allow us into that part of their lives.   

Its sad when celebrities get so critiqued and criticized on every little move they make with their kids. Like with what happened recently with Pink, how she said she isn't going to be posting anything about her kids on social media anymore. I'm thankful no one has ever done that to the boys.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 06, 2019, 07:59:27 PM
I love watching Nick with Odin. It's just so precious. At his pool party thing, before he sang Nights In White Satin he was telling a very cute story about how he'd sing that to Odin as a lullaby each night when he was a baby. AJ with his two daughters is beyond cute. Ava is absolutely a lot like her dad LOL.

All of them are cute dads, honestly. I love those videos. Mason is a blonde Kevin.


The video I was talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Etj8MKGi_Q


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2019, 08:03:19 PM
James singing in Pollyanna's recital a few weeks ago was so cute!!  Both Howie's boys are adorable.  All their kids are.  Baylee has always looked so much like Brian, but I don't think he sounds like Brian at all when he sings, which is interesting.  He's also singing a different style of song, but it seems like his voice is deeper than Brian's.

I do occasionally see comments critiquing their parenting or kids, and I find that so annoying.  I'm not a parent, so I know it's none of my business to comment on how other people parent their kids, but even if I was, it still wouldn't be my place.  But some so-called "fans" are out of line anyway, especially on the wives' posts.  If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2019, 08:05:42 PM
I love Nick singing that song!  He sang some good ones at that event!  I would love an album of acoustic Nick covers, like that Before the Backstreet Boys one that exists of pre-pubescent Nick's cheesy covers, only much better!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2019, 08:25:54 PM
Is there any song you've always wanted to hear the guys cover, either as a group or solo?

My parents raised me on classic rock, and I've always thought Brian's voice sounds sort of similar to Don Henley from the Eagles or Steve Walsh from Kansas.  I would love to hear him or the group cover Dust in the Wind or Desperado, something like that.  Don Henley's song Taking You Home would be another good one for Brian.  (ER fans, you will remember that song from this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzoqgE7R1k We need a crying emoji on here!)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 06, 2019, 09:35:25 PM
Or: somewhere over the rainbows when doctor Green pass away in ER


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 06, 2019, 09:46:00 PM
I'd asked about Nick's next solo album, which he didn't answer...just joked that we don't want another one LOL. But then a fan suggested he do a cover album. He went "nah, that's Kevin's deal, right? He put out Cover Story." Then laughed when everyone said Kevin never released it LOL.

I'd love for Nick to cover "Can't Buy Me Love". I grew up on that and Beach Boys, thanks to my mom. And I could really hear him in my head killing that song.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on May 07, 2019, 06:57:40 AM
Iíd love Nick or even the boys as a whole to do more covers of Beach Boys songs. Iíd like to hear Nick do some more rock music, like Nirvana or Metallica....I think his voice is so interchangeabl e that he can master any genre and sound great. Thatís one thing that I like about Nickís voice is that itís so versatile.

I highly enjoyed the video of Nick doing ďA Horse With No NameĒ from the pool party because that is one of my favorite songs, and I remember him saying he sang that song to Odin too at one point or another, I canít remember.

I really wish that Kevin released Cover Story because I was looking forward to hearing him sing more.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2019, 09:31:49 PM
Or: somewhere over the rainbows when doctor Green pass away in ER

I love that song!  It makes me cry because of ER.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2019, 09:34:05 PM
I'd asked about Nick's next solo album, which he didn't answer...just joked that we don't want another one LOL. But then a fan suggested he do a cover album. He went "nah, that's Kevin's deal, right? He put out Cover Story." Then laughed when everyone said Kevin never released it LOL.

I'd love for Nick to cover "Can't Buy Me Love". I grew up on that and Beach Boys, thanks to my mom. And I could really hear him in my head killing that song.

LOL Clueless Nick.  Of course we want another solo album!  And nope, Kevin talked about that damn Cover Story album way back in 2013 and still hasn't released it!  I love his cover of Danny's Song.

Any Beach Boys song would be a great choice because of the harmonies!  I loved when they did When I Grow Up to Be a Man.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 07, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
RokofAges75: this song make me cry too since ER

I really hope Brian gonna do another solo album because I love so much his voice


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2019, 10:01:25 PM
I hope he does too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 07, 2019, 10:13:47 PM
I hope when AJ gonna release his new solo album, the CD gonna be sold in my country. I have already two of his songs on my ipad.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 07, 2019, 10:45:43 PM
LOL Clueless Nick.  Of course we want another solo album!  And nope, Kevin talked about that damn Cover Story album way back in 2013 and still hasn't released it!  I love his cover of Danny's Song.

Any Beach Boys song would be a great choice because of the harmonies!  I loved when they did When I Grow Up to Be a Man.

I know right? LOL.

I'm sad we'll likely never hear Cover Story. I've really come to love Kevin's voice. We don't hear it enough.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 09, 2019, 09:26:08 PM
How about Howie releasing a solo album in July without saying anything until now?!  Stealth D!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 11, 2019, 06:56:40 AM
Yes, that came out of nowhere. It seems like weird timing to be releasing all the solo stuff between AJ and Howie with the tour just starting, but good for them.

On another note, Iím pleasantly surprised to see all these Instagram posts from Brian about this tour. He seems excited about it. Usually heís like Waldo so I think thatís a great sign for this tour. Enjoy!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 11, 2019, 05:08:33 PM
Howie's song and video are so cute!  Very different from his last album, but I'm down for it.  AJ's song is beautiful and sweet!  I'm surprised Nick's not getting in on all this solo action!

I think it helps that Brian's family is not with him in Europe.  He always seems more interactive with the fans and the other guys when Leighanne's not around.  I'm glad to see him excited!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 11, 2019, 05:12:27 PM
Maybe he feel better about his voice too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 11, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
That could be too!  He does seem more confident and less shaky when he sings.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 11, 2019, 08:35:09 PM
Yes and he look less anxious too


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 13, 2019, 05:45:32 PM
Not to go too deep into a very heavy discussion, but part of me wonders if Nick was holding back on the solo work because of Melissa-gate. Cause he was full steam ahead, teasing one and everything until that broke. Then everything came to a halt.

I could be wrong though cause Nick usually leaves solo work for when there's nothing going on in BSB land.

I'm not feeling Howie's family album but the idea is cute so do what makes you happy Howie. AJ's song is beautiful but man he's all over the place lol. Set a release date for the solo album already LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 13, 2019, 06:00:16 PM
Maybe Nick wait for when the bsb gonna stop to be so busy.
Brian said on radio interview that the group gonna release two others album next year.
I love AJ songs!
I really hope that Brian gonna do another solo album


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 13, 2019, 07:05:22 PM
It could also be that Nick is just too busy enjoying being a dad.  All American came out before Odin was born.  He has other priorities now.  I'm not complaining because we were lucky to get three albums out of him within 4-5 years... plus a book, a reality show, and Dancing With the Stars!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 13, 2019, 08:22:08 PM
Yeah, no complaints here lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 17, 2019, 07:05:49 PM
I know we've probably talked about this before, but Tracy brought up on Twitter how Kevin was talking about always being the one who's late because he likes to sleep in, which is so different from how many of us write Kevin in fanfics, as the anal stickler who expects everyone to be on time and do their job.  So my question is, what are some other ways you've discovered the Boys are different in real life from how they're portrayed in fanfic?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 18, 2019, 10:20:01 AM
As we celebrate 20 years of Millennium today, what is your favorite track and overall opinion of the album, and has it changed since 1999?

Also, what do you guys think about I Want It That Way Reimagined?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 18, 2019, 12:05:02 PM
I donít know if Iíd use the word re-imagined. I do love this acoustic version though. I think itís beautiful. This song has been and will always be my jam. I do love most of the songs on this album though. I think Back to Your Heart might be my second favorite.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 18, 2019, 12:56:07 PM
It's really not that different; it's just an acoustic version.  I love it.  Not more than the original, but it is beautiful.  I Want It That Way is just an amazingly catchy song any way you sing it.

I like every song on Millennium, no skip songs for me.  My favorite is Don't Wanna Lose You Now, though it wasn't always my favorite.  Don't Want You Back is another one that I love more now than I did when Millennium was first released.  When we got to vote on the single on TRL, The One was my first choice (even before Nick called in), It's Gotta Be You was second, and Don't Want You Back was third.  Now I would have a hard time picking between The One and Don't Want You Back.  All the singles from Millennium are among my favorite tracks, though; they did a great job choosing them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 18, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
I know we've probably talked about this before, but Tracy brought up on Twitter how Kevin was talking about always being the one who's late because he likes to sleep in, which is so different from how many of us write Kevin in fanfics, as the anal stickler who expects everyone to be on time and do their job.  So my question is, what are some other ways you've discovered the Boys are different in real life from how they're portrayed in fanfic?

I must have missed this post. Yeah, Iím pretty sure Kevin for me was the most inaccurately written character, especially early on. The very last fanfic I was writing, I think I got him closest to his real persona. Iím pretty sure I always made him a stickler for being on time. Oopsies! I still stick by my characterizati ons of everyone else lol for now at least.  


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2019, 02:50:34 PM
Kevin is a stickler about some things, just apparently not being on time LOL.  I was at the first soundcheck of the IAWLT tour, and he treated it like a real soundcheck, not just the "soundcheck party."  He was super anal about making sure the instruments and mics were all at the right level and whatnot.  So in some ways, that portrayal of him is spot on.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 20, 2019, 04:59:15 AM
I like the re-imagined version, although still prefer the original.

Favourite song on Millennium is Show Me The Meaning, I just love it still.  I also love Don't Want You Back :)


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Post by: Sakabelle on May 20, 2019, 10:06:19 AM
I feel like they could have done more with the reimagined version. But, it's hard to improve on perfection.

IWITW was a favourite of mine back then, and it still is. The whole album is really great (if you stop after No One Else Comes Close, lol) and I think it does hold up. Oddly enough Larger Than Life has become a favourite of mine over the years. Not that I didn't like it back then, I just like it a lot more now. It's Gotta Be You was definitely a standout to me in the 90s as well, and I was so sure it would be a single that I was disappointed when it wasn't. I also feel like I remember AJ saying in an interview it would be a single at some point, which I think is what I held onto. Little did I know when I was 13 how much AJ likes to hear the sound of his own voice!!

That's cool that they sang the entire album on the cruise - I didn't know they did that! I like how they have really embraced the nostalgia of that time period. I wonder if they'll do the same for B&B? Or at least for the Around the World trip.

Oh also, that reminds me. It's crazy how Jojo Wright is still with them after all these years and still a force in radio in general.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 06:41:53 PM
"It's hard to improve on perfection" - yes!  So true.  IWITW is the perfect pop song.  The only thing it's lacking is lyrics that make sense, but their attempt to fix that back in the day with that alternate No Goodbyes version wasn't nearly as catchy.  So I'm not sure what else they could have done with it that wouldn't have taken away the elements that make it great.

Larger Than Life is an amazing song too.  It's so catchy and fun, and it's always great live.  The video is still my favorite too.

That's a good question about if they'll make as big a deal out of B&B's 20th anniversary.  They should because it sold a ton of copies too, but I don't think it has the same feel that Millennium does.  The album itself is not as good overall, and B&B was kind of the beginning of a bad period in BSB history, with them getting burnt out, AJ going to rehab, Nick going solo, and then the hiatus.  I love B&B too, but there is just something special about the Millennium album and era that none of the other albums quite have.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on May 20, 2019, 08:34:53 PM
Ahh yes, I remember that discussion with Tracy. But see the question I have is, is that the way he is now, but was how we think he way portrayed back then? People do change. I brought up the fact that they are all older and more mature now, so maybe Kevin doesn't feel that responsibility anymore?

I think in the past maybe Nick has been portrayed too much as not caring, partying 24/7, and sleeping around a lot. Yea he sorta went through that phase, but I don't feel it was as crazy as some fanfics made it seem. At least in my opinion. Otherwise I think the rest of the guys are pretty much the same.

{I still cant believe Brian called himself an asshole in that interview LOL}


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 08:40:07 PM
Yeah I donít know why Brian call himself names like that


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on May 20, 2019, 08:42:53 PM
I think he was just trying to be funny. It kinda worked cause the guys started cracking up after he said that.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 08:50:36 PM
That definitely could be true.  Kevin doesn't have to be in that "big brother" role now that they're all grown men.  He has seemed to mellow over the years, no doubt.

LOL After reading his book, I actually think Nick was crazier than he was portrayed in a lot of fanfics back then.  Or maybe it was just the ones I read.  I definitely wrote him as much more innocent in the early 2000s than I would knowing what I know about him now.  But I was pretty naive and innocent myself.  AJ was supposed to be the "bad boy," but let's be honest - the real bad boy was Nick LOL.

On the other hand, Brian has always been portrayed as the sweet, goofy boy-next-door, and rarely do we see that asshole side of him in fanfics, but I think there must be some truth to that.  (Cue Nick screaming, "Don't be a dick!")  Brian is definitely opinionated, and that may make him an asshole in some people's eyes.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 08:55:13 PM
I was so mad at Nick and Howie when I see this part in the documentary and for what they said in interview alter that.

I donít know if any of you hear what Kevin call Brian on stage the first night of the DNA tour?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 08:59:34 PM
Aww... as much as it makes me cringe to hear them screaming "Shut the fuck up!" at each other, that whole fight was so entertaining!  And even though I'm a Brian girl, I side with Nick on Soldier.  That is an incredibly catchy song that absolutely deserved to be on that album and should have been on the tour setlist too!

No, what did Kevin call Brian?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 09:03:09 PM
I love soldier too!

Just before the song passionate, Kevin call Brian back on stage and he call him baby


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 09:04:39 PM
Aww...  :patpat:


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 09:09:22 PM
Yes Kevin in big brother mode with Brian!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 21, 2019, 02:03:46 AM
I think Brian calling himself an asshole is him being very self aware lol

Its funny to think about our perspectives of that Black and Blue era depending on what kind of fanfics we were reading at the time. The ones I was writing and reading definitely did downplay all the crap that was going on behind the scenes, especially with Nick. I think we knew things were bad but not as bad as they actually were. As far as that album getting the same attention as Millennium, Iím sure theyíll do something but itís Millennium that made them into superstars and separated them from the pack of all the other boy bands out there. If not for the strength of that album, theyíd be on tour with 98 degrees and LFO lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 21, 2019, 04:53:17 PM
I definitely did not realize how bad things were at the time of B&B.  It's only looking back at that era now, knowing what was going on behind the scenes, that it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  I feel the same way about Never Gone.  At the time, that was a fun era, having the Boys making music and touring again after the hiatus, but knowing now what a mess Nick was and that Kevin was unhappy and wanting to leave the group, I would never name that as one of my favorite eras.  I think 2013 onward is the best era of BSB because it's the first time I've felt like all five of them are happy being a Backstreet Boy, happy in their personal lives, and comfortable in their own skin.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 21, 2019, 11:29:05 PM
Millennium just has a magic about it. The Boys recently called it their Thriller and I'd have to agree. That's their record that just really changed everything for them. "I Want It That Way" is the song that will be considered an oldies classic in a few decades, scary as that is LOL. That album also really defined my childhood. That era is when I discovered fan pages, fan fiction, and it's when I went from fan to hard core fan.

Black and Blue is weird for me knowing all that went down now. Like you knew things were off but you couldn't tell just how bad. And like you said Julie, it's the same for NG. That era in particular just doesn't give me good vibes. Kevin left, Nick was a mess, they were fighting hard with Jive, a lot went wrong. But it's also my first concert and the first time I ever saw BSB in person.

I agree about 2013-onward being the best era. They've embraced each other and themselves. They've really connected with the fans too in that. Everything has just been really good. I was at the show in February the day before the Grammys and Kevin was on stage talking about how lucky they were, how thankful they were for everything. Of course it being Kevin he almost started crying. But they were so happy. It's just a great time right now.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 22, 2019, 02:15:18 PM
This has nothing to do with anything BSB related, but I wanted to say that Getting Grace is now streaming on HULU itís the movie that my former student is starring in. About a girl who is dying of cancer who befriends a mortician so she can get more comfortable with the idea of death. Maddie plays Grace. In addition, another student of mine did the film score. Totally random, different schools and different time periods lol okay done advertising. I think youíll all like it though.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 22, 2019, 09:17:32 PM
I don't have Hulu right now, but next time I get a free trial or decide to renew my subscription, I want to watch that.  It sounds like something I'd enjoy.  That's very cool that your former student stars in it!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 22, 2019, 09:20:15 PM
I agree with everything you said, Rose, especially about Millennium.  It totally is their Thriller.  It's the album and era that made me go from a casual fan to a true fanatic, and it's when I discovered fanfic too.  In that respect, it changed my whole life, because without fanfic, I would not have met any of you guys, and I doubt I would have ever gone on a BSB cruise or done a lot of the stuff I've done with friends I met online.


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Post by: mare on May 23, 2019, 04:02:51 PM
I don't have Hulu right now, but next time I get a free trial or decide to renew my subscription, I want to watch that.  It sounds like something I'd enjoy.  That's very cool that your former student stars in it!

Yes, I mean itís not gonna win any Oscars or anything. The writing is more Lifetime Network or Hallmark channel, but even still, Maddie did a spectacular job. After the first half hour I forgot I knew her.

Thanks for not ignoring that post lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 24, 2019, 04:52:06 AM
If we had Hulu I'd check it out, but it's not something I think we get over here.

Three weeks until I see the DNA tour, I'm so excited :)  I know that has nothing to do with the B&B album but just wanted to say it lol


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Post by: FrickingKaos on May 24, 2019, 12:51:04 PM
I'm not seeing the DNA tour until August. Pure torture. This summer is going to go by fast though, I got a lot I'm doing in the meantime.


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Post by: Mistral on May 24, 2019, 12:55:27 PM
Iím gonna see the DNA tour only on July and the full show is already on YouTube


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 08:49:35 AM
Is there a high quality version of the full show on YouTube, or is it just people's cell phone videos?  I hate watching shaky video with a bunch of screaming in the background. 


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 08:53:03 AM
I'm so happy for Nick and Lauren!  I'm glad they finally announced it so fans will stop speculating if she's pregnant or not.  She did look pregnant in those photos he posted of them at a restaurant last week, and I noticed she's been wearing flowy, baggy clothes lately, but wow, she looks a lot further along than I would have guessed in the picture he posted yesterday!  I don't blame them for keeping it private for as long as possible, after the miscarriages they've been through.


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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Iím verry happy for Nick&Lauren too!!

Yes I see a verry good quality of the show!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 03:40:32 PM
Do you have a link?


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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 07:58:49 PM
Yes! https://youtu.be/24c7fia6ZWE


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 10:27:59 PM
Thanks!  Is there more after that first song?  The video's only 6 minutes.

I found this one; it looks like the whole show, and the quality is decent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwoT2660-do  I haven't watched any videos from the tour yet, but I would be tempted by a good quality video of the full concert.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 10:36:10 PM
Yes the full show is there. You are welcome!



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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 10:43:39 PM
https://youtu.be/IbimV80Ykf8
https://youtu.be/oh-5ZOtHl54
https://youtu.be/LH5scn1ejC0
https://youtu.be/Oq18PnMXr3s
https://youtu.be/3igYxSCNIZw
https://youtu.be/ivqXO44RHBc
https://youtu.be/ntEIVI9qDjs
https://youtu.be/9nLzcylaJLY
https://youtu.be/rwobccDyv2M
https://youtu.be/L52bpby7Yco
https://youtu.be/BU2A2xtPZ2Q


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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 10:48:22 PM
https://youtu.be/3Sgos2uevAY
https://youtu.be/grVEzsaRuR0
https://youtu.be/jZP5q8o0yKQ
https://youtu.be/W8IhMif0PnQ
https://youtu.be/DsaWrG_JJ6E
https://youtu.be/rb6dXqGp4zc
https://youtu.be/eQAlvBPP8s4


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 11:30:14 PM
Thanks!


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Post by: Mistral on May 26, 2019, 12:32:50 AM
Youíre welcome!


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Post by: mare on May 26, 2019, 04:18:07 AM
Thanks for these.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 26, 2019, 10:45:55 AM
You are welcome!


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Post by: Carter-Orange on June 11, 2019, 03:46:31 AM
I've been staying away from tour spoilers as I'm going on Saturday and want to be surprised, I can't wait as it's been five years since their last tour over here.

But I will be watching those videos afterwards and re-living it, so thanks for sharing :)


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Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 11:51:15 AM
No problem!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 11, 2019, 05:27:48 PM
So excited for you, Steph!!

I have yet to watch any tour videos, including the clips they've been posting on Instagram.  One of these nights I'm going to cave and watch one of the full concerts on YouTube.  If I'm going to be spoiled, I'm gonna do it right.  But so far I've been able to resist.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 06:03:48 PM
Me I go to see them in concert in a month!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 11, 2019, 07:43:25 PM
Exciting!!  I'm seeing them in August, but I'm not counting down because it's the week before I go back to work, and I don't want to wish my summer away.  It will be nice to have something to look forward to in the midst of the back-to-school blues though!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 07:48:44 PM
Yes and it is the only show I do for the DNA world tour.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 11, 2019, 07:50:15 PM
Thought of some fanfic questions...

Where was the first place you ever posted one of your stories?  When was it, what story was it, and is the site still online?

For those who still write, do you post your stories on any other sites besides AC?  If so, where?

For those who read and/or post on other sites, how is the culture there different than on AC?  (That can include number and types of stories posted, popular genres, quantity of readers, quality of reviews, etc.)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 07:56:36 PM
RokofAges75: I really miss talking to you!

My first fanfic was post online on a french fans forum and it is not online anymore.
Yes I post on archive of our own and here.
On the other site the writers post more slash stories.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 13, 2019, 10:25:40 PM
The first place I posted a story (or had it hosted, rather) was on a site called Escape from Reality.  It's actually still online, though it hasn't been updated since February 2000, which is when my story Heartache was posted there.  The whole story never even made it onto the site because the webmaster stopped updating it, but it is finished on my site.

The only places I post my stuff nowadays are on AC and my own site, Dreamer's Sanctuary.  I've thought about branching out onto other sites that have a more active fanbase, which is partly why I asked this question.  I miss having more options to read and being able to write and receive reviews.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on June 14, 2019, 02:36:48 AM
Where was the first place you ever posted one of your stories?  When was it, what story was it, and is the site still online?

The first place I ever posted a story was on a Take That forum that had a fanfic section.  It was back in about 2007 (I was late getting into fanfics), it was romance story about a Take That member and the site is no longer online unfortunately.

For those who still write, do you post your stories on any other sites besides AC?  If so, where?

I don't post anywhere else, and haven't posted anything in a long time either.

For those who read and/or post on other sites, how is the culture there different than on AC?  (That can include number and types of stories posted, popular genres, quantity of readers, quality of reviews, etc.)

I don't go on any other sites.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on June 16, 2019, 01:26:47 PM
The concert was absolutely amazing!  The atmosphere was fantastic, everyone was up dancing and singing and it was just a really good night.  So anyone going to see them is in for a good time, but you already know that 🤣


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 16, 2019, 03:11:03 PM
Yes I cannot wait to see them on july 15!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 16, 2019, 07:50:06 PM
Glad you had a great time, Steph!


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Post by: Sakabelle on June 21, 2019, 01:44:35 PM
Where was the first place you ever posted one of your stories?  When was it, what story was it, and is the site still online?

I don't remember the name of it, but I sent my stories to some old Geocities fansite and they would put it under their "Hosted Stories" section. That was back in like 1999 lol

For those who still write, do you post your stories on any other sites besides AC?  If so, where?

I post on AO3 (Archive of Our Own)

For those who read and/or post on other sites, how is the culture there different than on AC?  (That can include number and types of stories posted, popular genres, quantity of readers, quality of reviews, etc.)

I can't speak for the BSB side on AO3, but I know that there are some BSB stories there. I have only read/written 1D fic on that site. What I have noticed is:

1. I have gotten more reviews there than I ever did on AC. BUT I am also writing in a more active fandom and I had a fic that blew up so I think my stats are a little skewed.

2. There is the concept of "kudos" which is basically like a Facebook "like." I have found for every 10 or so kudos I will get a comment. Because of this the comments typically say more than just "great story."

3. There is a very good way to have a back and forth with a reader there - they can comment, you can reply, they can reply back and you can have a good dialogue! I have noticed that a lot of people respond to reviews, but not everyone does. I'm guilty of not always responding to reviews, especially when I haven't logged into my account in months. Oops. No one seems to really mind.

4. It's mostly slash. Het fic gets very little traction. I don't think this is exclusive to 1D but obviously I don't know for sure.

5. Ongoing chaptered fic gets some reads, but less than posting a 50k completed fic. I rarely write things in chapters anymore, I just write the whole thing as a oneshot and post it all at once. If there are logical breaks I might split them out when I post, but I'll still post it all at once. I find even when I post chapters most people will wait until the fic is finished to read and comment anyway.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 23, 2019, 08:58:21 PM
That is interesting to see the differences between A03 and here!  Thanks, Steph!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 30, 2019, 09:57:00 PM
Remember when the mods had to make rules about how many stories we could update per day to prevent people's stories from being quickly bumped down to the bottom of the Most Recent page or, worse, page 2?  And now there are only 4 stories on the Most Recent page, period.  Only 4 authors who have updated in the last 30 days.  That is so sad!

Maybe this is just me feeling nostalgic, as I tend to do on late summer nights, but I hate to see AC dying this way.  Not only do I miss our many active threads and discussions on here, but I also miss following stories on the main site.  Anyone else?


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 30, 2019, 10:47:38 PM
On a completely different nostalgic note, I just opened Google Docs to write (but obviously can't focus worth crap) and started thinking about how much things have changed and how much easier it is to write and post a story online now than it was when I first started writing fanfic.  I used to type stories on Microsoft Word on an old desktop computer that wasn't connected to the dial-up internet because my parents didn't think a 14-year-old needed internet access in her bedroom - I was lucky enough just to have my own computer.  I would have to save the chapters to a floppy disc, which I would then put into the family computer that DID have internet so I could post them online (all without anyone knowing what I was doing, mind you).  I would also copy/paste other people's stories into Word and save them to my floppy so I could take them back to my own computer to read offline because once I tried to print one of them and I got in trouble for wasting so much printer paper.  What a lot of effort!  Now I use Google Docs so I can access my stories from anywhere, including my phone, and post them to AC and my WordPress site without ever needing to save an actual file.  Technology's come a long way in twenty years!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 30, 2019, 11:08:01 PM
I know many people stop writing fanfiction and leave the BSB fandom. I have trouble to write my last fanfic because of many things, but I hope to be able to write more on vacation.

I do the same thing as you when I was younger to be able to read and post my fanfics without my parents know what I was doing on the computer.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 30, 2019, 11:43:27 PM
It is definitely difficult at times. I've found real life gets in the way more and more as I get older. Adulting is hard! Somehow it was easier to write even when I was a full-time student with homework.  I struggled to keep up with it when I went back to school to get my master's, and it seems like the fandom I came back to is not what it was before.  I hope more people come back to it!

LOL My parents were clueless too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 01, 2019, 12:13:16 AM
It was more easy when the french fandom was there because english is not my first language so it is more hard for me to translate all my fanfics I write and yes adult life is very hard.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 01, 2019, 01:34:45 AM
I'm sure it is very hard to write or translate to another language!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 01, 2019, 01:53:36 AM
Yup, things have definitely changed. I remember having to weed through stories to feature and being really picky about what to feature. There used to be a criteria. Now Iíve been doing mainly stories that update and had just been going alphabetical.

It is sad to see all the changes. I just think thatís part of life. Now that the guys are all older, married and pretty much settled, writing stories about them has gotten harder to do. Itís nice to see their actual fandom hasnít died though. Just on my twitter feed, every other post is about them lol just not the fictional them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 01, 2019, 01:57:18 AM
Good lord it was a hassle and a half to post anything back in the day. Iím still not sure how my untechnical self was able to pull it off. I remember waiting forever for my dial up to kick in and then Iíd end up mailing chapters to you, Izzy and whoever else used to host me. When I had my own site, Mersey used to make me word docs explaining how to do the html coding lol I do not miss those days lol  


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 01, 2019, 03:10:41 AM
Now that the guys are all older, married and pretty much settled, writing stories about them has gotten harder to do. Itís nice to see their actual fandom hasnít died though. Just on my twitter feed, every other post is about them lol just not the fictional them.

Do you think that's what it is?  With as popular as romance used to be, I guess that makes sense - it's harder to pair them with random women when they're married in real life.  Gotta ignore reality or come up with creative ways to get rid of the wives.  The last "romance" I wrote was slash, and the one before that was written before Nick got married, so it was easier to have him break up with Lauren.  So I get it, but at the same time, I hope that's not all that's stopping people from writing.  There are still plenty of ways around that particular problem.  But maybe it's the "settled" part that people struggle with - Nick was definitely more interesting to write about when he was a hot mess.  Now he's this mature family man, and maybe that doesn't work as well for some people.  Part of writing is creating conflict for your characters, though.

I am glad to see other parts of the fandom so active!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 01, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Yeah, I mean Iím not totally certain thatís why, but it does make sense. I guess thatís one of the downsides to real person fanfics versus the other stuff. Itís probably easier for people to switch over to a different fandom to write nowadays or go the slash route. That might also have something to do with it? itís hard to find reasons for things waning. Itís kind of sad, but at least the boys themselves arenít fading. Maybe with their resurgence, There will be a whole new generation of kids writing fanfics about them. Weird to think that thereís probably people out there writing Baylee fanfics and itís no longer icky and inappropriate lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 01, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
Their kids is a no go for me I think writing about them is not ok


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 01, 2019, 02:24:20 PM
LOL Oh man, that will be a weird day when a Baylee fanfic pops up.  I have no problem including the kids in my stories when it makes sense to, but they're never the main focus.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on July 05, 2019, 05:43:58 AM
Yes, I remember logging on and seeing a few pages of most recent stories, and it's a shame to see only a couple on there now.  I'm guilty of not writing for some time, but I just can't seem to find the chance to sit and get anything done. 

But my love of the boys is as strong as ever :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 05, 2019, 07:44:18 AM
Ten days until Montreal concert!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 05, 2019, 05:36:33 PM
But my love of the boys is as strong as ever :)

Yay!  That's the most important thing. :)

There were actually three threads updated today!  I couldn't believe it when I logged in!  You should come on more often, Steph LOL.  I go through phases where I check this forum multiple sites a day, and then I get busy with life and go days or weeks without even thinking about it, so I totally get it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 05, 2019, 05:36:48 PM
Ten days until Montreal concert!!

The countdown is on!  So excited for you!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 05, 2019, 05:40:29 PM
Yes I cannot wait to see them in concert! Thanks!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 06, 2019, 11:08:50 PM
What was everyone's first BSB concert?

Mine was March 7, 2000 in St. Louis for the second US leg of the Millennium tour when I was 14.  I tried to get tickets for the first leg the previous fall, but that was the time they literally sold out in seconds.  I had my mom on the computer trying to buy them from Ticketmaster and my dad at an actual Ticketmaster box office trying to buy them in person the minute they went on sale, and neither one of them could get tickets.  I was devastated and cried the rest of the day.  But then the second leg came around, and the local radio station offered a bus trip to the St. Louis concert that included guaranteed tickets, so we did that.  I went with my mom, my sister, and my best friend at the time, who is the one who got me into BSB.  It was my first ever real concert, not just my first BSB show, and it was pretty much the best thing ever!  We were sitting so far back that the guys just looked like specks on the stage, but I was just excited to be in the same building as them, breathing the same air LOL.  I had the time of my life!  If I only knew then that I would one day meet them, take pictures with them, go on cruises with them, see concerts from the first few rows, etc., I never would have believed it!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 12, 2019, 06:39:42 PM
Have you guys heard Howie's album yet?  I'm finally getting a chance to listen to it, and it's so cute!!  Even if you have no interest in the whole album, you have to give the title track a listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoF8oBKCwpQ  It's about BSB!  So funny and sweet!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 14, 2019, 12:10:58 AM
My first BSB concert wasn't until 2005 LOL.

My parents tried. They couldn't afford Millennium. They did get B&B but then mine was one of the cancelled dates for Aj's rehab and they ended up unable to take me to the rescheduled one once those popped up. I wanted to do NON but I got sick and my mom wouldn't let me go even though I had a ticket. So when I was 18, and I was determined to go. So I blew my first paycheck at my new job on a ticket LOL. They were okay seats but I met some fans I'd talked to online...it was my first time doing this. I was nervous cause I went alone. They let me trade my ticket with one of theirs on the floor that they hadn't been able to sell. It was amazing, time of my life. I thought the end all was seeing them walk by through the casino up close.

NEVER would've thought everything that would've happened over the years. It's madness.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 14, 2019, 11:09:45 AM
Itís tomorrow!! I cannot wait!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 14, 2019, 02:31:00 PM
My first BSB concert was the Up Close and Personal tour in Scranton with Kat and Stacy. I miss them. No idea the year or date. I donít really keep track of that stuff. It was general admission, back when I could stand, and we had pretty good spots. I loved it. 


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:16:29 PM
My first BSB concert wasn't until 2005 LOL.

My parents tried. They couldn't afford Millennium. They did get B&B but then mine was one of the cancelled dates for Aj's rehab and they ended up unable to take me to the rescheduled one once those popped up. I wanted to do NON but I got sick and my mom wouldn't let me go even though I had a ticket. So when I was 18, and I was determined to go. So I blew my first paycheck at my new job on a ticket LOL. They were okay seats but I met some fans I'd talked to online...it was my first time doing this. I was nervous cause I went alone. They let me trade my ticket with one of theirs on the floor that they hadn't been able to sell. It was amazing, time of my life. I thought the end all was seeing them walk by through the casino up close.

NEVER would've thought everything that would've happened over the years. It's madness.

Wow, you had some bad luck with those early concerts!  My B&B show was also one of the ones to get postponed when AJ went to rehab, but luckily I was able to go to the rescheduled show in September.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:18:20 PM
Itís tomorrow!! I cannot wait!!

Your first ever BSB concert?!  Wow, that is even more exciting!!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:21:00 PM
My first BSB concert was the Up Close and Personal tour in Scranton with Kat and Stacy. I miss them. No idea the year or date. I donít really keep track of that stuff. It was general admission, back when I could stand, and we had pretty good spots. I loved it. 

It would have been early 2005.  My Up Close and Personal show was in March of that year.  Mine was GA too, which I hate, but because it was such a small and intimate venue compared to anywhere else I'd seen them, it was the first time I'd ever been able to get close enough to actually see their faces clearly.  I spent the whole show pinned to a column, unable to move, but it was totally worth the discomfort.  That was a fun little tour!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 14, 2019, 03:29:54 PM
RokofAges75: no itís my first show! I see all the show since the Never Gone tour.

I donít remember my first show, but itís was in the first time the boys come to Quebec.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
Oh okay!  Still exciting! :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 14, 2019, 03:53:55 PM
Yes I love each show the boys give at Montreal!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on July 14, 2019, 05:21:28 PM
My first BSB show was Backstreet’s Back in 1998. Nosebleeds, I was 12, cried when Nick sang Heaven in Your Eyes. Good times.

After that they didn’t come back to my city until Never Gone. I tried to go see them in Toronto for B&B but I was 15 so coming up with the cash for that was challenging. I made a valiant effort at it though!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 15, 2019, 05:56:48 AM
Wow, you had some bad luck with those early concerts!  My B&B show was also one of the ones to get postponed when AJ went to rehab, but luckily I was able to go to the rescheduled show in September.

I know right? It's why I've said all the things I do now is to compensate for everything I "missed out on" as a kid LOL. I'm actually really excited for Chicago cause it'll be my first arena tour experience with the Boys.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 15, 2019, 10:54:59 PM
Best show ever! Iím so proud of Brian his voice was amazing!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 12:45:56 AM
Yay, I'm glad you had a great time!  I'm so happy to hear that about Brian!  I can't wait to hear him in person in August!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 16, 2019, 12:52:39 AM
Yes I have a great time! Yes Brian receive a standing ovation. You are gonna have a very good show in august!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 12:58:43 AM
Aww!  He will definitely be getting a standing ovation from me in Chicago!  I can't wait.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 16, 2019, 01:02:52 AM
Baylee impress me a lot when he does the first part of the show!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 01:37:27 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Baylee too!  I still can't get over how deep his singing voice is compared to Brian's, though - for being Brian's Mini-Me, he sounds completely different!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 16, 2019, 12:09:15 PM
Yes and he his very professional on stage with lots of talent


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
I was on YouTube looking up the clip of the fight from the documentary, and I came across this deleted scene that I had never seen before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKX3jJx_-A0  It shows the guys arguing about whether or not they need or want management's approval on their song choices for In a World Like This.  It's really interesting, and I think they all bring up good points.  Just wondered what your thoughts are on the subject.

Personally, I think In a World Like This is the best album they've ever made, other than maybe Millennium - which is interesting because the guys had a ton of creative control over IAWLT, but I'm not sure how much they had over Millennium.  Although I think Howie was right to be open to outside opinions, I totally agree with AJ that they shouldn't be trying to please anyone but themselves and their fans.  To me, This Is Us was the result of them trying too hard to make music that would fit with the crap being played on pop radio at the time, and yet it still failed to get any airplay, at least here in the States.  IAWLT was way more them.  As much as I like DNA, I don't think it's as good as IAWLT, and I think that has a lot to do with the fact that the Boys weren't as involved in writing the songs.  I'm sure they still had a lot of creative control, but now that they're back with a major record label, probably not as much as they had with IAWLT.  There are some great tracks on DNA that other people wrote for them, but quite frankly, a few of the songs are pretty boring.  They're pleasant, but they're not songs I really want to listen to over and over again.  In shooting for commercial success, I feel like they played it safe instead of taking a risk like Howie was talking about and sacrificed some creativity in the process.  DNA's still a solid album with some great songs, but it's not their best.  Just my two cents!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on July 20, 2019, 07:13:51 AM
Hey sorry I havenít been on here in a hot minute, I was away last week in North Carolina seeing NKOTB and then I went to a Blink 182 concert, after that I was sick with a sinus infection. So Iím trying to catch up on things on the forum and writing wise...I took like a week and a half break from fanfic but I think Iím back in my writing zone because I managed to write half a chapter last night at work now that I have a keyboard for my iPad again.

Since BSB was not the first concert I went to, (it was NSYNC actually) I didnít see BSB live for the first time until the second leg of the Black and Blue tour, after AJ had gone to rehab. I remember at my show he said heíd been sober for a month or something...th at was back when he used to count the days heíd been sober at each show. I remember they were gonna film an acceptance speech for a MTV award during the show too but the boys didnít win it or something like that....itís been too long and I donít remember exactly lol but I had horrible seats for that concert and none of my pictures came out....this was back when we used disposable cameras at concerts. It kind of boggles my mind how far technology has come since then especially with smartphones and picture taking.

From my first show all I remember is looking at them and wondering if I would ever get close to the stage, and then I fast forward to the recent stint in Vegas I did to see them at the table near the stage...if youíd told my 16/17 year old self that iíd Be front row at a Backstreet Boys concert and meeting them Iíd have laughed in your face.

Anyone else feel that way when you look back on your teenage self?



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 20, 2019, 07:37:06 PM
Welcome back!  Hope you're feeling better.  I'm glad you got a new keyboard.  It's so hard to write when it's not convenient!

I remember the days of disposable cameras!  I took my real camera to my first two concerts, Millennium and Black & Blue, but at the B&B concert they had signs everywhere about the no camera policy that my mom took very seriously.  She refused to let me bring my camera in because she was convinced I would get caught and either get kicked out or have it confiscated.  So I have NO photos from that concert - sad!  After that I learned to bring disposable cameras so it wouldn't be a big deal if they did get confiscated, but that never happened.  The only venue I've ever seen actually be strict about cameras for a BSB show was the House of Blues the first time I was there.  They were actually trying to track down people who were taking pictures, but I still took plenty and didn't get caught.  They must have given up on that because it hasn't been an issue any of the other times I've been to that venue.

I totally feel the same way.  As much as my teenage self used to joke about marrying Brian or sneaking backstage at a BSB show, I never actually believed I would be lucky enough to meet them.  That kind of thing only happened to girls on MTV or girls in fanfics.

That said, I did actually "meet" Howie unexpectedly in 2001, when I was 16.  I was in downtown Chicago with my high school drama club to go shopping and see a show, and Howie happened to be signing autographs at the Steve Madden store.  I had no idea he was going to be there; we just happened to be in the mall and saw this huge line of people waiting, and we asked what they were waiting for and found out it was Howie!  So my friends and I spent the rest of our shopping time standing in line.  There were so many people, they wouldn't let him keep signing autographs by the time we got to his table, but we did get to go by and say hi and shake his hand.  I was so nervous, I just blurted "Hi, I love you!"  I didn't wash my hand the rest of the day.  But it would be another 7 years before I actually had a proper meet and greet with the "whole" group - and 12 years before I finally met Kevin!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 20, 2019, 09:26:01 PM
I didnít hear Howie new CD sorry so I canít tell you what I think about it.
At center Bell in Montreal they are very strict about no pictures rules.
Every time I see the group in concert I look back at my teenager years.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 20, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
I'm not sure how I feel fully about DNA just yet in comparison to their other albums. Some of their strongest songs in years are on that album, like Breathe or Passionate. I also tend to group albums so like for me, their "peak" which would be the Red Album through Chapter One. Their "indie era" which is Never Gone through In A World Like This. And DNA to me definitely speaks to a new say...time for them? So for me, Millennium is their best peak album, In A World Like This is their best indie album, and it's too soon to shuffle DNA in there. TIU definitely trend chased but I'll say forever that to me NG did so too. Pop/rock was definitely the trend back in 2004/2005 and Jive has been known to meddle.

I also don't think they'd sacrifice too much of the creative control in their deal with RCA. Mainly because I feel that Kevin definitely wouldn't be okay with that. Yes it's good to see them writing on the songs but it's never been a must for me. I think part of the reason DNA took as long as it did was because they all had their own creative ideas and it took them ages to compromise LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 12:05:21 AM
It does get hard to compare the albums to each other when music styles have changed and their sound has evolved over the years.  I like the idea of eras, and I agree with the best in each era.  Of the indie era, IAWLT is the only album that has aged well for me, but it's way too soon to see how DNA will fare over time.

I also agree about them not wanting to give up much creative control at this point.  As I think Nick said in that video clip I posted, they have a ton of experience to draw on, and they should trust themselves to make good decisions - and others should trust them, too.  I definitely think the eclectic feel of DNA, genre-wise, comes from them having so many ideas and needing to compromise.  I like that they have a lot of different styles of music on it - something for everyone.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 12:08:01 AM
I didnít hear Howie new CD sorry so I canít tell you what I think about it.

Has anyone else heard Howie's album?

I think it's adorable!  It's exactly what you would expect from a Howie album for kids - it's super cheesy, but cute and fun and very personal.  I feel like I learned a lot about Howie from listening to it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 21, 2019, 03:23:51 AM
I really do love DNA. I listen to it twice on my trips to and from Buffalo, but I really think Millennium will always stand out as their best one for me. If I were doing albums in order of how much I enjoy listening to them, DNA would come in 2 with IAWLT a close 3rd. If it werenít for the song Try, it would probably be tied for second. Never Gone would come in 4th with Black and Blue rounding out the top 5. All the others, I enjoy a song here or there but not enough to even include the albums into the mix.

I havenít heard Howie's new album and kind of have no desire to. (Sorry Howie) lol the only solo albums Iíve ever listened to were Nicks. I donít care about them as solo artists. I never have and never will. Sorry boys, youíre BSB to me. Nothing personal, but I like the way they all sound together. My least favorite part of their earlier shows was when they sang a solo song. I used to hate that.

I can say one thing about DNA, I love how they positioned the songs on the album. Three killer songs in a row. Breathe, New Love and Passionate. Bang bang bang!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 21, 2019, 01:36:04 PM
Agreed about the positioning.

I know Julie's heard this cause I sent it to her. But have you guys heard Do You Remember? It was a Japan solo track and SO GOOD. https://youtu.be/4jEUv3QHepA


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 03:49:36 PM
I also agree about the track order on DNA.  It's impossible to pick the best side of the record because both halves of the album have strong songs.  They did a good job spreading the boring ones out and putting good ones back to back.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 09:51:50 PM
I discovered this wiki page called Fanlore last night that has a BSB section with info about the fandom and fanfic: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Backstreet_Boys  There's a link to the article on AC at the bottom.  Neither article is very in-depth, but it was still cool to see some of my favorite fanfic sites and stories included.  I considered signing up so I can go edit and add some more information, but that feels like a big undertaking that would suck up a lot of time better spent doing something else (like actually writing fanfic?).

There's a list of "Notable Fanworks" on the BSB article, divided into two waves.  I have at least heard of every story on the first wave and none of the stories on the second wave LOL.  By the mid-2000s, I was pretty much only reading my friends' stories and stuff on AC, so if they weren't posted here, I probably never came across them.  Although, looking at the stories listed, they all seem to be NSYNC stories, not BSB, so I'm not even sure why they're included.  This is the problem with wikis LOL.

Anyway, just wondering what other sites and "notable fanworks" you would include if you were the one editing?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on July 25, 2019, 07:11:07 AM
The first BSB concert I went to was Unbreakable, me and my friend were lucky enough to be front row too :)  We had AJ throwing his water bottle over us (it was a very hot day) and we touched hands with Nick as he ran past lol.  I've been to every tour since then.

I've not listened to Howie's album because I know it's for kids and I've done my share of kid stuff over the years.  But I might give the one you posted a listen when I'm home from work and able to have sound on, same goes for the deleted scene from the documentary.

I'm still loving the DNA album too, I don't listen to every song all the time, but still have my favourites.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 26, 2019, 05:16:11 PM
Front row for your first BSB concert!  Wow, lucky!!  You must have been so spoiled after that!  Once you know what it's like to be in the front row, it's hard to be further back.

You should definitely listen to Howie's album when you can!  It's for kids, but it's not like obnoxious KidzBop or "The Wheels on the Bus" kind of kids songs.  They're all autobiographic al songs about Howie's childhood, and they're cheesy, but fun.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on July 29, 2019, 04:52:00 AM
Yeah it seems every time I see them I end up further and further back now :(  Can't beat that front row feeling.




Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on August 28, 2019, 05:12:37 PM
Ugh, no one has posted in this thread in almost a month!  Sad.

Just wanted to take a moment to appreciate this photo Brian shared: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1uDQuxFFkz/  Remember when a shirtless pic of Brian (post-surgery) or Nick used to be like finding Bigfoot?  They've come so far!  What a great time to be alive.  :D


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 01, 2019, 09:31:52 PM
Dude my jaw dropped when I saw it LOL


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 02, 2019, 06:33:15 AM
Yes, what a time to be alive lol, loving all their Instagram photos, especially shirtless ones :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 04, 2019, 04:55:00 PM
I'm loving the pics and videos of them visiting kids in the hospital too - so sweet!  Seems like Brian and Nick have been hanging out more on this tour.  Like that one pic of them in the pool mocking Howie on his bday - Nick was at Brian's house!  I love to see them acting all Frick & Frackish.  It's probably nice for Brian that Nick finally grew up and settled down and turned into this family man that he can relate to again, and I'm sure Nick appreciates Brian not being a dick, a la House of Carters "Blurry Brian" who acts like he's embarrassed of him.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 04, 2019, 06:14:55 PM
Thatís good to see Brian regain self-confidence with shirtless pictures


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 04, 2019, 09:16:30 PM
Yes!  He has nothing to be self-conscious about.  He's so freaking hot and in great shape!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 06, 2019, 01:13:24 AM
OMG the posing like Howie photo was hilarious. I love that Brian and Nick are bonding again. Honestly they were always my favorite bromance besides Kevin/Nick and so I'm happy for a Frick and Frack revival.

So, thoughts on Let It Be Me? It's different but I dig it. Also...it's a Nick and Howie song, which is so different.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 06, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
That was so hilarious! I love we got a shirtless photo out of 4/5 of them for the sake of razzing Howie on his birthday, LOL.

I'm not blown away by Let It Be Me, but I do like it.  It sounds like a Justin Bieber song LOL.  I don't mean that as a diss; it just does.  I could totally hear Biebs singing it.  Howie does get a lot of time to shine in it - go Howie!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 06, 2019, 03:10:13 PM
The only Bieber song I know is Somebody to Love lol, so I don't hear him on it LOL. It's very radio friendly.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 06, 2019, 04:25:38 PM
I've listened to the new song a couple of times, it's alright and I see what you mean about it being a bit Bieber like.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 06, 2019, 04:27:29 PM
Me I donít like this new song


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 06, 2019, 05:53:52 PM
I havenít been able to find the song to listen to. Whenever I click onto that smart url it only plays a snippet of the song and none of the choices it gives me are letting me listen to it for free. From what I heard, it sounds ok thus far lol

If itís on YouTube itís not working for me. You tube in general.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 06, 2019, 06:22:48 PM
ITunes Store have it if you want to hear the song


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 07, 2019, 02:54:58 AM
iTunes would only let me listen to a little bit of it. I finally heard it via you tube. I liked it. Kind of repetitive and typical pop song-y but it was nice hearing a Nick Howie lead. Would have been great to hear some harmonies. Maybe if I listen a second time. Maybe itíll get some radio play.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 07, 2019, 10:38:51 PM
I could see it being played on the radio.  It does have a modern pop feel to it.  I'm looking forward to seeing the music video, if only for the eye candy.  Based on the images I've seen, it looks like it will be delicious!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 09, 2019, 08:19:58 AM
Oh I need to see the video for it, when is that released?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 09, 2019, 04:10:54 PM
Today!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-VHOCyrTI  I love it!  It reminds me of the IAWLT this video - pretty, but powerful.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 10, 2019, 02:54:44 AM
I watched it yesterday and loved it!  The song is stuck in my head whilst sitting here in work :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 10, 2019, 04:12:05 AM
Great video. The song is stuck in my head too. I didnít think it would but after only one real listen, I found myself humming it back all day. Good for them and their pop repetitions lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 10, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
It's a grower!  I'm liking it more and more too.  It's definitely catchy!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 17, 2019, 07:43:10 PM
Did you see what Nick post on Twitter?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 18, 2019, 06:23:57 PM
Yes.  I don't even know what to say.  I feel bad for Lauren and him that what should be an exciting, happy time for their family has been tainted by more of his crazy family drama.  I wonder how much of this was sparked by Aaron hanging out with Jane for that reality show they're doing.  The apple doesn't fall far from the tree there; they are obviously both mentally ill.  I'm glad Nick has Lauren and Angel in his life.  I hope he will be able to lay low in Vegas until this blows over, and I hope Aaron gets the help he needs.  It's disgusting to see fellow attention-seekers taking advantage of his mental issues to further their own agenda.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 18, 2019, 09:32:28 PM
Aaron is dangerous and he need help very quickly before he does something. Nick doesnít need that in his life right now with his new baby who arrive very soon.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 20, 2019, 07:01:03 PM
The whole situation is heartbreaking. When a family member suffers from extreme mental illness, itís truly hard to deal with it. Iím just sad that it had to play out in public. This is such a private matter. Like Iíve said so many times before, this family is so broken that they donít know how to deal with things out of the public eye. Itís like the only way they get attention. Nick has tried and Iím so sorry that he was kind of forced into having to make a public statement. I just hope that Aaron gets the help he needs before he does something to hurt himself or anyone else.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 20, 2019, 07:30:35 PM
Very true.  Aaron's been hanging out with Jane because of that reality show they're going to be on, and I have a feeling she has influenced this whole meltdown he's having.  The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.  I think they're both bipolar, and he's clearly in the middle of a manic episode.  It worries me what will happen when he inevitably cycles to the depressive side of things.  He's a douchebag, but I wish him no ill will.  He's not in his right mind and will probably regret his words and actions when and if he comes to his senses.  I feel so bad for Nick and Angel, first for watching their brother go through this and not being able to do anything to help him, and then also for being trashed by him and all of his minions on Twitter.  His recent ex-girlfriend talked to TMZ about his "toxic fans" enabling him, which is spot on: https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/18/aaron-carter-ex-girlfriend-lina-valentina-restraining-order-health-family/  It's even more frustrating to see people like Melissa Schuman leeching onto him and exploiting his mental illness to further her own cause. 


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 21, 2019, 11:20:16 AM
Yes, the fact that heís back to being around Jane doesnít help this situation! And oh my God! I was just going to leave the Melissa part out of this but I just saw that clip of them talking and her laughing at his obvious real threats and rants. I mean I could understand if he was ďbeing funnyĒ but it was clear that Aaron was completely serious. Wtf? Whether what happened to her is real or not, if you see a person clearly having a psychotic break, you mention it to someone otherwise if this guy does indeed go bonkers, sheís complicit in whatever he does. Same can be said about anyone justifying his violent outbursts.

What an awful situation. I hope someone does get him into a psych hold before he hurts someone. Maybe itís time for mom to step up. My sister said actually being able to admit someone on a 5150 is really hard. There has to be proof without a doubt that person will do harm to themselves or others.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 21, 2019, 12:09:41 PM
Apparently Jane is in rehab right now, so I'm not sure how aware she is of the whole situation.  She's batshit crazy too, but you'd hope she would try to do something to help before he hurts himself or another member of their family.

It must be pretty hard to get a 5150 because it sounds like both Angel and Nick have tried, and nothing has worked.  People keep sending Aaron's tweets and videos to the police, trying to get them to intervene, but it doesn't seem to be working.  That's the truly terrifying thing - the fact that this psychotic break is so public and being witnessed by so many people, yet no one seems to be able to do anything to stop it.  He needs to be hospitalized or locked up and have his guns and his phone taken away until his brain chemistry is sorted out.  I don't know if he's overmedicated or not on the right meds, but something is very wrong.  No wonder there are so many mass shootings in this country, if it's this hard to do something after obvious warning signs!

Apparently he drove himself cross-country to get to Kentucky for the show he was doing last night, and he has been doing Instagram lives while he's driving.  I don't want him to get seriously hurt, but part of me hopes he will crash his car and end up in the hospital so he can get some help.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 21, 2019, 02:05:05 PM
I don't go on Twitter as my account somehow vanished, so I just created a new one to see what all this Aaron drama.  Oh my god, he should be getting help in a secure unit!  I don't know anything about the guy, but he seems completely messed up.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 21, 2019, 03:49:29 PM
I don't follow him on any social media, but I have been checking his Twitter and Instagram.  He is currently driving through Tennessee on his way to the fair he's playing at in Mississippi tonight; turns out he has two security guards with him, and one of them was driving, so at least he's not alone and hasn't been driving the whole time he's been tweeting and whatnot.  He went live on IG about an hour ago as they were pulled over by a cop in Tennessee for failing to get over in the left lane while passing a stopped vehicle on the shoulder.  The cop had no idea who he was and said he didn't use social media, so he let them off with a warning and didn't search Aaron's truck.  So frustrating.  I'm sure he would have found, at the minimum, pot and possibly guns.
 But Aaron was being all polite and friendly, sucking up to the cop so as to not seem suspicious, while occasionally smirking at his phone... true psychopathic behavior.  Creepy.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 21, 2019, 03:51:33 PM
I heard he actually was making threats during his show as well? I wonder if he went off meds completely? I wasnít aware that Jane was in rehab. Is it true Aaron and Jane have a reality show happening? I have a feeling all these hateful rants towards Nick and his family started because they didnít ask him to open for BSB and instead had Baylee do it.

Iím with you though, if he gets into an accident or at least pulled over, Iím sure heíd lose his shit enough to end up in a psych ward. It really is a shame how hard it is to be taken seriously. Usually they have to wait until something awful happens before they can act.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 21, 2019, 03:54:07 PM
^ ugh! Ok never mind my getting pulled over idea. You gotta wonder if the body guards are there to protect Aaron or to protect the fans from Aaron


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 21, 2019, 04:07:08 PM
I heard that he was making threats at the show last night too, but no video has surfaced yet.  I wonder what Lance Bass and the guys from OTown think of this behavior.  That's who he's doing these shows with, among others.  Some of them are friends with Nick.

I'm sure more people will record his performance tonight, so maybe we'll get something then.  I just don't know how much good it will do.  He's already made threats on Instagram; that video evidence is out there, and it hasn't seemed to accomplish anything except alarm Nick and the rest of us even more.

I think I heard Jane was in rehab from Aaron, so who knows how credible that is, but it makes sense.  They're gonna be on Marriage Boot Camp Family Edition or something like that in October, but it filmed already this summer.  Jane going to rehab probably came out of that, which is a good thing... but Aaron spiraling off the deep end is not, and that could totally be from Jane turning him against his brother and sister.  It definitely seems like jealousy towards Nick is at the root of a lot of this, so you could be right about Baylee too.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 21, 2019, 07:25:04 PM
https://youtu.be/WPH_hvyphQQ

This video is the worst and he need big help before he does something.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 21, 2019, 07:28:42 PM
What he said about Leslie is sick and horrible.  I know she had her own issues, but regardless of whether there's any truth to his allegation or not, she's dead and can't defend herself.  Why try to tarnish her memory?  It's disgusting and despicable.

He also said Nick throwing a pie in his face on Nickelodeon was physical abuse, so in his warped mind, I'm sure anything could be considered sexual abuse.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 21, 2019, 07:31:28 PM
Yes it is! Aaron is dangerous!

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/nick-carter-increases-security-over-aaron-carter-comment/amp/?__twitter_impr ession=true&fbclid=IwAR0eHcSL8lHWxyKB7VSZDcSST6N6ICELCEB4GFXHZJ0cmBsVihX7j2x9yX4

I find this on facebook a few minutes ago


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 22, 2019, 07:38:17 AM
That whole Leslie thing is awful as well. Why put that all out on Twitter like that? Itís auch an intensely private thing. You put it out there on Twitter just to get a reaction?

I hope those o town people are like holy shit this kid is bonkers! And choose to drop him.

I just hope everyone just stops paying attention to these people. By engaging with them on social media, theyíre giving them exactly what they want.

I worry for Nick and his family. Makes me think Aaronís fans are as mentally unstable as he is.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 22, 2019, 12:26:04 PM
Shame the police didn't search when they stopped him, should be locked up!


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Post by: Carter-Orange on September 23, 2019, 10:36:16 AM
I really can't seem to get on with Twitter, I've not used it for years and my account vanished, then I created a new one and it was suspended! Weird lol


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Post by: RokofAges75 on September 23, 2019, 03:20:50 PM
That's so weird, Steph!  I followed your new account with all the numbers.  Is that the one that's now suspended, or did you create another new one?  Wonder what's going on!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on September 23, 2019, 03:22:39 PM
I was expecting to come home from work to a whole bunch of new bullshit tweets and IG posts, but it seems like it's been pretty quiet today.  I saw he went live on IG for awhile, but it looked like just more of him playing music - from his house, not Hawaii, btw.  He seems to be a compulsive liar, in addition to his other disturbing behavior.  Not the best way to get people to believe you, lying about going to Hawaii.


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Post by: mare on September 23, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
He probably realized he didnít have the money to go to Hawaii and was about to call Nick to borrow some then remembered he was Voldemort.

Part of me also wonders if something like that happened. If he or his mother needed money and Nick refused to help them out.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on September 23, 2019, 05:05:49 PM
LMAO!

I wouldn't be surprised.  He's definitely said stuff about Nick refusing to help their mom.  But I don't blame Nick, as horrible as she was to Lauren and him before they got married.  I think he's cut ties with her completely.  Now that Aaron's hanging out with her, I bet she's turned him against Nick.  I wonder if that's where the whole Mildred story came from.  Because his parents used to run a retirement home in Florida, remember?  I could see Jane feeding that story to Aaron.  Again, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.  If you look at her old tweets, she sounds just as crazy as he does: https://twitter.com/janiesbluecanoe.  I do believe Aaron that bipolar disorder runs in their family because I think she's who he got it from, and Leslie probably had it too.


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Post by: mare on September 23, 2019, 06:17:16 PM
Yes, she definitely is a crazy person. You gotta wonder if this whole Mildred thing is a story told by a very young Nick, sneaking into an old ladies room which got turned into a rape by a few deranged brains. Nick probably snuck into this womenís room and stole some hard candy or something when he was 5 (if she even existed)

When all this blows over, which it eventually will, I will give Nick so much credit if he were to forgive Aaron. I feel like this is something thatís going to be hard to come back from. Itís a shame. Aaron really needs the stability and support of both Angel and Nick but heís pretty much ruined that.



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Post by: RokofAges75 on September 23, 2019, 08:37:51 PM
I know.  It has to be getting harder and harder for them to take the high road and ignore, especially Nick, with all the horrible things he's been saying.  What Aaron must not realize is that the more ridiculous his claims become, the less credibility it lends to the other accusations that are at least in the realm of possibility.

But if Aaron were to go to rehab or spend some time in the psych ward or whatever he needs to do to get himself together and then made amends to Nick and Angel, I do think they would eventually forgive him.  I hope, for all their sakes, that Aaron gets help and gets better so they can start to heal from this.


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Post by: Rose on September 30, 2019, 09:31:44 PM
That video of Melissa laughing at Aaron's threats and behavior is really horrible. If I ever once doubted Nick's side of things, that video solidified everything. Even if she's absolutely right in every bad thing she's ever said about Nick? That doesn't justify encouraging someone who is VERY CLEARLY not well with his threats towards Nick and his very innocent wife and children. I don't get how people are defending her behavior in that video but they are. It blows my mind. There's no excuse for it. Manipulating someone who needs psychiatric help is just low.

I also don't get people who buy the idea that Aaron isn't unwell mentally right now and the restraining orders are to "silence him". If that were the case, his own twin sister wouldn't have filed one. Not to mention, judges don't hand those out like they're candy. They need something to go off of. Lord knows Aaron gave them plenty of material.

In the end, I hope Aaron gets well. I do worry that the damage that's been done may not be reversible. I also worry that this won't have a happy ending. Aaron has nothing but yes men who don't want him to get help around him right now.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 01, 2019, 04:04:56 PM
Yeah, all accusations aside, Melissa is totally taking advantage of Aaron to try to further her own agenda.  No matter what Nick did or didn't do, what SHE'S doing right now is disgusting.  Aaron is clearly manic and not making good decisions, and he seems to be surrounded by enablers and users.  He has pushed away all the people who genuinely have his best interests at heart and want to help him.

You know Nick and Angel didn't take the decision to file a restraining order lightly.  According to the dates I read, almost a month passed between when Aaron allegedly made the comments to Angel about wanting to kill babies and Lauren, so they stewed on that for awhile before they took legal action, probably hoping it wouldn't get to that point.

I just feel sad for Nick that all this is happening at a time that should be so happy and hopeful and exciting for his family.  He seems okay in his videos, but who knows what's been going on behind the scenes.  It's hard to turn your back on a family member who's struggling, even if it's for the best.

I'm curious to see what happens when Jane gets out of rehab.  If she's truly "better," will she be able to see that Aaron is spiraling and get him some help?  I don't know how much of her issues are truly alcoholism and how much are mental illness.  If she's not on effective medication, I don't know that being sober will do all that much good, but I am definitely not an expert on either subject.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 02, 2019, 09:32:11 PM
I got a random comment on an old chapter of my current story on my site that said "Very nice story could you do one with aaron nicks brother?"  Considering current events, I'm not sure if this person is actually a fan of Aaron or just wants to see him tortured, LOL.  Either way, the answer is NO!


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Post by: mare on October 03, 2019, 03:32:34 AM
I guess nowís the time to write that slow death by explosive diarrhea youíve always wanted to write.

Iím kind of surprised with all this drama, that nobody has written a fanfic about it. I wonder if Aaron considers himself a stable genius? 🤔


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Post by: Rose on October 03, 2019, 04:19:25 AM
Yeah, all accusations aside, Melissa is totally taking advantage of Aaron to try to further her own agenda.  No matter what Nick did or didn't do, what SHE'S doing right now is disgusting.  Aaron is clearly manic and not making good decisions, and he seems to be surrounded by enablers and users.  He has pushed away all the people who genuinely have his best interests at heart and want to help him.

You know Nick and Angel didn't take the decision to file a restraining order lightly.  According to the dates I read, almost a month passed between when Aaron allegedly made the comments to Angel about wanting to kill babies and Lauren, so they stewed on that for awhile before they took legal action, probably hoping it wouldn't get to that point.

I just feel sad for Nick that all this is happening at a time that should be so happy and hopeful and exciting for his family.  He seems okay in his videos, but who knows what's been going on behind the scenes.  It's hard to turn your back on a family member who's struggling, even if it's for the best.

I'm curious to see what happens when Jane gets out of rehab.  If she's truly "better," will she be able to see that Aaron is spiraling and get him some help?  I don't know how much of her issues are truly alcoholism and how much are mental illness.  If she's not on effective medication, I don't know that being sober will do all that much good, but I am definitely not an expert on either subject.

Exactly. To be granted restraining orders for both Angel and Nick in two different states shows they have enough for law enforcement to agree with their concerns. Aaron is spiraling more and more out of control and it's really sad to watch. It's literally Britney all over again. I feel for Nick so much in all this. Even when you know it's for the best and you know you can't save them, it's literally the worst feeling to turn your back on family, speaking from experience with my own brother.  And it's probably exactly why it took Angel and Nick a month to go through with it. In Angel's case, that's her twin. You know that had to be hard. Not to mention she was the one doing the wellness checks during the month leading up to the RO. This was definitely the last resort.

At least Nick has good moments, he was fanboying hard at that Bucs game LOL. And I get that, diving into your fandoms as a way to cope with hard life issues. Been there lol.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 03, 2019, 05:27:22 PM
I guess nowís the time to write that slow death by explosive diarrhea youíve always wanted to write.

Iím kind of surprised with all this drama, that nobody has written a fanfic about it. I wonder if Aaron considers himself a stable genius? 🤔

LMAO!  Dead!

I don't know about everyone else, but I can't write about real life drama like this as it's playing out.  It's too real.  Too scary.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 03, 2019, 05:32:53 PM
I can't believe nobody's posted about the baby here yet!  I'm so excited for Nick and Lauren and thrilled that it's a girl!!!  Early on, I felt like it was probably going to be a boy, even though I wanted it to be a girl.  Then when they didn't do a gender reveal like they did with Odin, I started thinking maybe it WAS a girl and that's why they wanted to keep it a surprise from us.  Aaron kinda spoiled it, but whatever - I still squealed when I saw the news.  Can't wait to find out her name and see the first pics!  I love that we have another Backstreet girl, and I'm glad one of the guys finally had one of each!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 03, 2019, 06:08:58 PM
"Iíve been very hurt by the fact that my big brother has not made an effort to be part of my life for a long time so therefore I lashed out & said some hurtful things I did not mean to say I love my brother I love my family and all I want is peace and love for everybody." - Aaron Carter, October 3, 2019

I thought him claiming he has multiple personality disorder was bullshit, but maybe he does.  How else do you explain him going from repeatedly accusing Nick of being a serial rapist who raped a 91-year-old woman named Mildred to suddenly claiming he loves his brother and said hurtful things he "did not mean" to say?  Or maybe his manic episode is finally swinging the other way, or he finally went back on his meds.  He just needs to get off social media and lay low for awhile.


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Post by: Rose on October 03, 2019, 06:37:57 PM
I mean, honestly that change was so sudden I got whiplash lol. Let this be the end and Aaron hopefully gets help.

Dude, I told you I had a vibe it was a girl! I'm so happy for them!! Nick will be adorable with a daughter.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 03, 2019, 07:39:50 PM
I know!  I can't wait for them to start posting pics and videos.  It's gonna be so cute!


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Post by: mare on October 04, 2019, 04:20:01 AM
Iím so happy the baby was born healthy. I have always pictured Nick with a daughter. Blonde pigtails, blue eyes and smiling. I hope she doesnít have a weird name. I wonder if they will name her Leslie or have that be a middle name.

So Aaron turned it around. He must be back on meds. I also wonder if Nick got in touch with him and sent him some money. I didnít realize Aaron had given away the sex of the baby but if that was the case, it meant that the two of them had been in touch prior to his little outburst. Sad that it was for attention. When annoyed with a sibling, you tend to avoid them or get into little arguments. Typically you should not accuse them of raping senior citizens and siding with attention whores.

I hope Nick will remain cautious.


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Post by: Rose on October 04, 2019, 04:55:43 PM
Aaron deleted the tweets.

In one of his manic tweeting episodes when all this started, he accidentally tweeted notes he got from Melissa's family about Nick. One part said "Aaron will give story for money because he's broke". So I think sadly this is a combination of drugs, mental illness and money. Which makes me wonder why he deleted his tweets basically saying he made it up.


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Post by: Rose on October 04, 2019, 06:17:22 PM
Forgot to link this earlier. Took me a min to find it but it's the notes Aaron accidentally tweeted when the mess first started.

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1174950532605083653?s=20


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Post by: mare on October 05, 2019, 04:41:22 AM
Wow! Thatís vile of those people. What an ass to actually give Aaron notes that say heís broke and needs money. Whatís even sadder about this is Melissa has so little street cred, they have to rely on Aaron to get attention!

Those people need to realize, if it hasnít blown up by now, it never will. It should speak volumes that no one seems to believe her or any of these other girls enough to make a full blown story out of any of this. Time to move on. Iím sure somewhere thereís a Terrible B movie calling her name.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 05, 2019, 07:45:25 AM
Iím so happy the baby was born healthy. I have always pictured Nick with a daughter. Blonde pigtails, blue eyes and smiling. I hope she doesnít have a weird name. I wonder if they will name her Leslie or have that be a middle name.

So Aaron turned it around. He must be back on meds. I also wonder if Nick got in touch with him and sent him some money. I didnít realize Aaron had given away the sex of the baby but if that was the case, it meant that the two of them had been in touch prior to his little outburst. Sad that it was for attention. When annoyed with a sibling, you tend to avoid them or get into little arguments. Typically you should not accuse them of raping senior citizens and siding with attention whores.

I hope Nick will remain cautious.

I know; Nick will be a cute girl dad, and I'm sure she'll be beautiful!  Her profile in the sonogram pics they posted looked so much like Odin, so I'm curious to see how much she really resembles him.  I'm dying to find out her name.  I'm sure they have some exclusive deal with People or US Weekly or something to release the first pictures and do the name reveal, but come on, do it already!

I hope Nick didn't send Aaron any more money that he'll spend on horrible face tattoos, four-wheelers, gaudy bling, and drugs.  He has shown he's not responsible with the money he has.  If they can make amends and maintain a civil relationship with each other, great, but Nick is wise to distance himself from his whole mess of a family.  Stay far, far away!

The first week of this whole meltdown, Aaron posted screenshots of "texts" he had allegedly sent Lauren prior to all this going down to "prove" that he didn't want to kill her or the baby (except it looked like it was written in the notes app on his phone, not messaging), and in one of them he congratulated her on her baby girl.  That's how I found out, but I didn't see anyone else talking about it, so I didn't say anything either.  If Nick and Lauren wanted it to be a surprise, it should have been a surprise.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 05, 2019, 07:45:37 AM
Wow! Thatís vile of those people. What an ass to actually give Aaron notes that say heís broke and needs money. Whatís even sadder about this is Melissa has so little street cred, they have to rely on Aaron to get attention!

Those people need to realize, if it hasnít blown up by now, it never will. It should speak volumes that no one seems to believe her or any of these other girls enough to make a full blown story out of any of this. Time to move on. Iím sure somewhere thereís a Terrible B movie calling her name.

Yeah, if it didn't ruin Nick's career during the height of the whole #MeToo movement, it's not going to.  If it hasn't resurrected her career, it's not going to.  She will be happier if she does decide to let go of the hate, stop with the drama, and move on.

Terrible B movie is right.  Based on her brief performance in The Hollow, she's an even worse actress than she is a singer, so Lifetime or Hallmark is probably all she would get.

Her father is even worse than she is.  He's an old man acting like a teenage girl on Twitter.  Ridiculous.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 05, 2019, 07:47:48 AM
Aaron deleted the tweets.

In one of his manic tweeting episodes when all this started, he accidentally tweeted notes he got from Melissa's family about Nick. One part said "Aaron will give story for money because he's broke". So I think sadly this is a combination of drugs, mental illness and money. Which makes me wonder why he deleted his tweets basically saying he made it up.

That's disappointing that he deleted the tweets.  I was hoping this was over.  I think you're right about the drugs, mental illness, and money.


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Post by: mare on October 05, 2019, 05:00:50 PM
Her father seems like a real prize. What he should be doing is getting his daughter counseling instead of trolling BSB fans.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 05, 2019, 05:13:07 PM
I do get a kick out of his silly nicknames for Nick and the BSB army though.  First Voldemort and the Death Eaters... then the Wicked Witch and her flying monkeys.  I love Harry Potter and the Wizard of Oz, so I'm all about it!


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Post by: Rose on October 05, 2019, 06:22:39 PM
Seriously lol. He tweets like a 14 year old girl.

He and Melissa keep trying to turn into these "advocates" and make a career off of it. It's honestly pathetic. They keep tweeting more and more outlandishly to try and instigate fans into attacking so they can play victim. I've always hated pity me narratives and hers is honestly the worst. Because they're playing with Aaron like it's a game and one of these times it'll do real damage.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 05, 2019, 09:29:46 PM
Being an advocate is one thing, but how sad to try to make a career out of being a victim.  Most people who go through something traumatic would rather move on from it and not become famous for what happened to them.  But since the singing thing didn't last, and the acting thing didn't work out either, this is all she's got.  I still think it's convenient that she never felt the need to speak up or be anyone's advocate until it became trendy to accuse celebrities of sexual assault.


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Post by: Rose on October 07, 2019, 07:08:55 PM
Being an advocate is one thing, but how sad to try to make a career out of being a victim.  Most people who go through something traumatic would rather move on from it and not become famous for what happened to them.  But since the singing thing didn't last, and the acting thing didn't work out either, this is all she's got.  I still think it's convenient that she never felt the need to speak up or be anyone's advocate until it became trendy to accuse celebrities of sexual assault.

And it wasn't even when it first became trendy. It was when the Boys were getting a lot of media attention due to their residency doing so well.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 13, 2019, 06:18:59 PM
What does everyone think of Nick's daughter's name?  I like it!  It's different without being weird.  Poor kid will have a hard time learning to spell her name and having to correct people on the pronunciation all her life, but maybe it will become a more popular name here in the States.

My niece's name is Isla (a Scottish name which is pronounced "Eye-la," like in "island," for anyone who may not know).  I warned my sister before she was born that people would probably call her Iz-la her whole life because, other than the actress Isla Fisher and the Isla who used to post on LD back in the day, I never knew of anyone with that name.  Well, turns out, my niece had another Isla in her preschool class, and my friend's daughter also has a friend named Isla, so it must be becoming more popular here.  Hopefully that will help with people not butchering her name.


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Post by: mare on October 15, 2019, 12:58:16 AM
I like the name they chose. I was kind of expecting Venus or Andromeda or something like that lol

I like the name Isla but until you helped out with that, I had no clue the s was silent. Good to know! Iíve actually never had an Isla in my 23 years teaching.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 15, 2019, 03:25:51 PM
LOL I could see that.  You never know with Nick.  Credit to all five of the guys and their wives, though - they did well with the baby names!  None of their kids have super weird, "celebrity kid" names.  Lyric is probably the most in that realm, but I actually think that's a really cute name for a musician's daughter.  At least they're all real names/words, and none of them have crazy "creative" spellings.

I've never had an Isla in class either, but it's apparently becoming more popular, so I guess it's only a matter of time.  The past two years have been the "Jackson" years.  Last year I had three Jacksons, all spelled that way.  This year I have two, neither spelled that way.  One is Jaxon, and the other one is Jaxson.  ::)


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Post by: Rose on October 15, 2019, 10:33:36 PM
I really like it. Once I figured out how to say it and spell it LOL.

My nephew and my cousin both get the pronouncing problems. My cousin Garrick's name is pronounced like Derek but with a G basically but no one ever says it or spells it right. It's a Scottish/Gaelic name. My nephew is Callum (Cay-lum) and a lot of people spell it wrong or say "Coll-um", and it's also a nod to the Scottish roots of our family.

I agree about the names. Baylee is the strangest spelling any of them have really LOL.


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Post by: Carter-Orange on October 16, 2019, 07:19:45 AM
I loved the video Nick did of Lauren at the hospital, oh god, so emotional though! And the name is nice too, I was expecting something weird lol.


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Post by: balance on October 27, 2019, 08:14:01 PM
I have a feeling all these hateful rants towards Nick and his family started because they didnít ask him to open for BSB and instead had Baylee do it.

OMG....that's what I thought!


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Post by: mare on October 28, 2019, 02:30:35 PM
OMG....that's what I thought!

Great minds...

Itís sad seeing how downhill heís going. Seems like heís completely lost it.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 28, 2019, 05:42:16 PM
I bet it has a lot to do with money.  I think he's broke and trying to hide it with all these claims of buying a manor in Canada and all the other bullshit he's been spewing.  He obviously doesn't know how to manage his money well with all the ridiculous things he spends it on, and he's stealing from his fans by selling this outrageously priced, ugly ass merch that he "customizes" by pouring bleach and paint on them and then never shipping them.  I bet Nick stopped helping him out financially, and that's why he's lashing out now.  He's bitter and jealous, besides being mentally unstable.


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Post by: mare on October 29, 2019, 05:24:13 AM
All of that above is so crazy town! Heís going to end up going to jail for stealing from his fans. I have a feeling Aaron has tried to reach out for money from Nick and he turned him down. Seeing Nick's post about donating to a mental health cause made me feel for him. Iím sure he has no idea how to help his brother anymore so heís doing the only thing he can.



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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 29, 2019, 04:01:35 PM
Yeah, I'm sure Nick's donation has everything to do with Aaron. Giving money directly to Aaron isn't going to help because he'll just spend it on drugs or stupid crap, so donating to a mental health charity is one way to help.  No one can help Aaron until he's willing to admit he has a problem and accept help from a professional. 

I feel for him too.  We both know how hard it is to watch family members struggle with mental illness and how helpless you feel.  My sister is doing much better these days, but I've been there with her, having her lash out at me for no reason, walking on eggshells around her because I never knew what would set her off, worrying she was going to hurt herself.  There's really nothing you can do except try to be supportive without being an enabler... or keep your distance so you don't get burned.  I get where Nick is coming from.


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Post by: Rose on October 29, 2019, 10:42:07 PM
Yeah, I'm sure Nick's donation has everything to do with Aaron. Giving money directly to Aaron isn't going to help because he'll just spend it on drugs or stupid crap, so donating to a mental health charity is one way to help.  No one can help Aaron until he's willing to admit he has a problem and accept help from a professional. 

I feel for him too.  We both know how hard it is to watch family members struggle with mental illness and how helpless you feel.  My sister is doing much better these days, but I've been there with her, having her lash out at me for no reason, walking on eggshells around her because I never knew what would set her off, worrying she was going to hurt herself.  There's really nothing you can do except try to be supportive without being an enabler... or keep your distance so you don't get burned.  I get where Nick is coming from.

I hope Aaron hits rock bottom and survives it, so then he can get help.

I feel so badly for Nick.


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Post by: mare on October 30, 2019, 05:20:16 AM
Itís the worst dealing with a mentally ill family member, especially when itís more than one. Iím glad both Nick and Angel managed to survive and turn their lives into what they have. Must be even harder having to do it in the spotlight surrounded by judgy people who are just waiting for you to fail.


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Post by: Rose on October 30, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
Yeah Angel came out very stable considering everything.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 30, 2019, 10:02:36 PM
Angel seems to be the most normal one of them all.  Good for her.  I'm glad she and Nick have each other and their spouses for support through all this.


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Post by: mare on October 31, 2019, 12:07:17 AM
It must be especially rough when itís your twin!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 31, 2019, 08:17:56 PM
I'm sure.


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Post by: mare on November 05, 2019, 03:15:46 AM
I have a question. I know itís 4am here but I couldnít sleep and as I was scrolling through Twitter, I came across a tweet someone had retweeted of a time when Nick and AJ were on Lip Synch battle and there was a blonde singing with them. The person who tweeted it was commenting something about that Melissa girl. Is that her? Or was it just a random picture to go with what she was saying? And if it was her, is this when all that stuff supposedly happened?

Just curious. I know I probably should know this but we all know I will not be winning any BSB best fan awards anytime soon so.... lol


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Post by: Rose on November 05, 2019, 07:14:35 PM
I have a question. I know itís 4am here but I couldnít sleep and as I was scrolling through Twitter, I came across a tweet someone had retweeted of a time when Nick and AJ were on Lip Synch battle and there was a blonde singing with them. The person who tweeted it was commenting something about that Melissa girl. Is that her? Or was it just a random picture to go with what she was saying? And if it was her, is this when all that stuff supposedly happened?

Just curious. I know I probably should know this but we all know I will not be winning any BSB best fan awards anytime soon so.... lol

I can answer this! LOL.

The blonde is Gigi Hadid (I think I spelled that right). The reason why it gets tweeted in conjunction with Melissa by fans who don't know when to stop feeding the drama, is because Melissa's husband is one of the male dancers. Melissa supposedly told her husband (Brandon Henschel) years ago about the alleged rape. So when fans came upon an IG post on Melissa's husband's Instagram of him there with BSB with no issues, it caused many to be WTF. Cause what kind of husband would be okay working with someone who raped his wife? This was in 2015 (filming because it was during DWTS) and aired in 2016. So a solid year and a half before Melissa came out with her claim.

He claims they discussed it and didn't want him to lose the income so he worked with Nick and AJ that day. I'm skeptical but even if I took that at face value, that doesn't quite explain posting about working with them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 06, 2019, 05:41:23 AM
wow! Okay, well I suppose as long as he needed the money. lol how odd, but also not surprising. At least it wasnít actually her, although Iím sure she wouldíve done the same thing.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 07, 2019, 12:52:12 AM
Yeah. Honestly I wouldn't either.

Watching Melissa Schuman lie about me personally today has been fascinating. If she has no problem lying about random fans like myself, why not Nick?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 07, 2019, 02:43:58 AM
She called you out personally? What the hell is wrong with her? I know youíre supposed to believe all people whenever they say anything about anything in the me too movement, but this girl has a ďBeautiful GirlĒ vibe to her and I wouldnít be surprised if she ended up being arrested, gun in hand trying to kill Nick or his fans one day. Honestly, talk about mental illness and Aaron. Sheís just as bad minus the drug use, although who really knows.

Iím going to eventually have to go down the rabbit hole to find out what she is saying and find the entire story from the beginning. Iím sick of hearing this girls name lol

Sorry that happened to you. I hope her minions havenít also been attacking. Does she even have minions?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 07, 2019, 01:54:47 PM
She tagged me once before. Yesterday she posted screenshots of a tweet I had about blocking Aaron. Apparently that proves I'm part of this account exposing his crap. *eye roll* and harassing her and Aaron. Mind you I've never once tweeted either of them. She has like three minions but none of them have come after me. I got texts yesterday letting me know she pulled that. She's done it to other fans too.

Her actions are why people don't believe her. Simple as that. She's obsessed with Nick. It's cfeepy.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on November 07, 2019, 05:12:49 PM
As someone those people have also attacked in the past, it infuriates me that they're still going after fans like this who haven't done anything but encourage people to spread positivity. Most people aren't believing her because of her online behavior and it comes off as very stalkerish. Especially looking to buy a home steps from where he lives, doing similar posts to his wife...its obsessive and creepy. I am so sorry you guys are dealing with that Rose. It's ridiculous. I've been staying quiet but I do see it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 08, 2019, 12:42:47 AM
I mean I can't believe she herself is doing it.

If anything I've encouraged fans to leave her alone. But whatever. Her lying about me and friends of mine, removes any doubt about her lying. If there ever was any.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 08, 2019, 06:26:04 AM
This is going to be long!

So, I went to Melissaís blog and read her original post. Considering the time period she claims this happened, her story was overall pretty believable for the most part. Back then Nick was at his lowest low when it came to his drug use etc.. and I could totally see him trying to manipulate her to have sex to further her career. I definitely feel like things were most likely omitted or changed to fit the narrative, like the above mentioned statement about furthering her career, but either way, I can see why she was upset.

However...

I can also understand why no one seems to be really latching onto her story or giving her all the attention she desires. After reading the post, I took away she was more upset with the fact that the one guy didnít sign her than the actual attack. She equated Nickís relationship with this guy for her not getting the gig, instead of maybe she just wasnít good enough? People claim sheís also changed her story etc... which I donít really know about because I didnít read on after that. But letting her husband dance with her rapist for the money... yeah.  I did however venture onto her twitter feed and yikes!

I guess my real question if I cared enough to ask her, would be what she hoped to accomplish by the way sheís acting? I mean she filed charges, which made sense considering she felt she was raped, but they were dropped because of how long she waited so it was basically the same as going to court and him being found not guilty. Once that happens, the only thing you could really do is file a civil suit, which I donít think she did? I could be wrong about that but judging by her constant attacks, Iím guessing no. So most people at this point would just drop it and try to move on. I wish she could see how her and her fatherís behavior makes her look. Donít get me wrong, I think itís awful how some fans have treated her but thatís the thing about being ďfamousĒ people say what they will, but you take the high road. She doesnít know what the high road is. Instead sheís just as awful. By doing nothing but being hateful and conspiratorial like she is, the poor victim train has left the station and the crazy train has arrived. The behavior by people on both sides here - BSB fans and whatever the people fighting on behalf of her are called - is deplorable. But her and her fatherís behavior is far worse. Calling people out just for owning BSB or Nick sites? I mean, they own sites dedicated to BSB, do you think a he said/she said scenario would make them all suddenly drop them for you? Latching yourself onto Aaron isnít the best idea either. Have you seen or heard his crazy talk lately?

Nick was not a great guy back in the day, but it really should be crystal clear to everyone that heís changed. Even the haters have to see that. The saddest part of this story (that will eventually not have a happy ending for her) is that instead of lashing out and acting like a crazed lunatic who wants to blame Nick for her failures (thatís what sheís coming off as) maybe she could have just reached out to him privately and talked about it. I mean that ship has sailed now, but just going back to her blog and seeing how many times he called her afterwards, you get the sense he didnít think he did anything wrong.

Itís unfortunate that instead of really becoming an advocate of the me too movement like she claims she wants to be, she just seems to be stuck in her own story which isnít going to go any further. She needs to take that energy and instead harness it to help others and move on from her own past. Like so many other people whose stories you hear about. But then again, thatís why we hear about them. They took the high road.

 


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 08, 2019, 09:10:53 PM
Don't mind me Mare if my reply gets long! I appreciate your thoughts given from a fresh perspective that hasn't been buried in this for two years. And I don't mind having a solid discourse on it.

When the story first got attention, I stayed quiet for two days on the subject. Because, at first I absolutely thought it could be possible. I've said this and I never hid it. Nick was absolutely at his worst during the time she claims this happened and I couldn't deny this was a possibility. It really screwed with my head. That said, given that I do help on the FC, etc, I started getting a lot of DMs about things that struck fans odd. I could list them but honestly, if you want Mare I'll link you to my friend Sara's post about it which lists a majority of them and does address the changing story. If not that's totally okay too.

One thing I will point out is on the blog it states she never sees him again post=alleged rape till their performance together. On Dr. Oz she talked about having to have her dad with her on set of the Hollow cause Nick was there. Two weeks (I think) from when she posted her blog, her story already changed. She says she wants nothing from him and yet since then has harassed Nick and fans on the daily.

Her behavior is honestly her biggest tell in my opinion that she's lying. She's told reporters that my friend was paid to defend Nick. She claims all of us now, myself included are paid to defend Nick. It's the biggest load of crap. I did a single post stating that yes I believe Nick and in that post I pleaded with both sides not to attack each other on Twitter. Cause you're right. Both sides have been vile. A handful of fans can't shut up, and then you have Melissa and her dad instigating.

She has not filed a civil suit which I honestly wonder why. She claims that there's loads of proof and if she hadn't waited so long Nick would be in handcuffs. Okay. So file a civil suit and prove your story.

Her using Aaron makes me sick. He's being manipulated as he's not well and it's the lowest of the low. Aaron actually stood by Nick in 2017 and fresh out of rehab/in a better mental state.

Julie and I talked about this before, about what if it was true. The thing is, the Nick of 2003-2006 is long gone. The man she supposedly wants justice against is dead. It is what it is.

What I think happened? I think a drunk or high Nick promised her the world to get in bed. They had sex and then the next morning he left. A simple one night stand that led to nothing more. She was upset and honestly, rightly so. Years later with her religious beliefs and such she views it differently. That to me, would explain her fangirling over Nick over the years then suddenly changing her tune only a few months later. (Not kidding. She commented positively on fan videos of Nick performing at the residency in May of 2017 that she would've had to search out to find)

In the end no one will ever know. This is a she said/he said. Her actions honestly speak far louder than her words.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 09, 2019, 02:40:27 AM
Iím not a fan of speculating about things like that because at the end of the day, the only two people that actually know what happened are Nick and Melissa. Iíve never been a person to blindly jump on anyoneís bandwagon and am pretty good at playing devils advocate. I do truly believe that she really does think she was violated but itís also really easy to convince yourself that something happened if you say it enough. I think she had drunk sex and was told it would further her career and then she was given the name of that guy she mentioned as her in. She probably woke up with deep regrets and came up with a scenario to fit those regrets. She makes it hard to believe her just based on her behavior. The whole not filing a civil suit is the sketchiest part of all. Yes, she could probably use the excuse that heís got a great lawyer, but if she is as insistent about bringing someone to justice for his crime as she acts like she is, that shouldnít matter. Seems to me sheís not doing it because she knows sheíll lose. Just like how when people donít show up for testimony or refuse to cooperate for police. They automatically look guilty. Itís just the way it is.

This may sound dumb and maybe naive on my part, but the fact that the boys all donít think itís true is also a big deal. I could see AJ and possibly Howie standing by Nick no matter what but I think Kevin would have a hard time being around him if he thought it was true and hell, Brian has kicked Nick to the curb for far less than that. Those four know him better than anyone.

As for me, I really donít think Iím being biased although I did share with you all that one of my good friends was falsely accused of rape. I do tend to want to hear facts and watch behaviors before making the call on anyone. Like on the news etc... sometimes Iíll  hear the story, watch the way people act and then make my judgement call. Not that my judgement matters but Thatís what I do. In this case her behavior versus Nickís makes it hard to side with her.

I guess my thing is, this situation seems like itís never going to change from this point one way or another so she needs to just let go and move on. Once she stops, all the residual fighting about it will stop too and then fans/ex fans can just move on to something else.

If he is a monster, Some people think he is, someone else will get him. The truth always comes out. Until then, how about we let him live his life with his family and let him enjoy all his success which he worked hard for and deserves.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 09, 2019, 03:18:02 AM
I agree that at the end of the day only those two will know what happened. I actually hate trial by social media and cancel culture for this very reason. It leaves no room for people to change and grow, nor does it give a chance for anything fair to happen. It becomes speculations abound because of the fact that's all there ever can be. I agree about the civil suit too, if she was really sincere for this despite the odds she claims to be up against, then file. Make a move that will do something and go somewhere or move on.

You make a good point about the fact the Boys don't believe her. Thinking about it, you're on point about Brian. He's definitely given himself distance from Nick over smaller things, and given Kevin's politics and social beliefs I definitely think he wouldn't be standing by him as boldly as he has been.

I do the same thing when it comes to judgement calls. I hate the idea that you're betraying your gender if you think something sounds wrong or fishy. Gender shouldn't define truth. The truth should speak for itself.

I wish Melissa would move on. She seems to spike it any time discussion stops which can't be healthy. I try my best to ignore it though on occasion I see tweets on my fan twitters from fans to her that make me roll my eyes, as they're just feeding into it. But then again I've ignored her throughout and look what happened LOL.

Exactly. If she's right we'll know one day. The obsession needs to go away. Fans, Nick, his family should all be left alone to live their lives and enjoy it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 09, 2019, 04:43:57 PM
Yeah, social media is awful when it comes to things like this. Everyone is so quick to offer opinions and rush to judgement on everything (kind of like me now lol) but because itís behind a screen, the way people talk to each other has gotten way out of hand. Especially strangers. The only reason I brought this Melissa stuff up was because I started following this twitter page because I was curious about what was going on with Aaron and then I ventured on to his feed and holy crap! Just spending a few minutes on his feed and her feed itís like crazy town.

The weirdest part of all this, is how people are so willing to end friendships over stuff that has nothing at all to do with them. Only a few people on my timeline are invested enough in the drama to retweet, like or post about Aaron or Melissa but it surprises me how hateful some are after going onto those feeds and reading what people have to say. Itís like if you still dare to like BSB after this you are in some kind of denial and a victim shamer and of you believe Melissa you are some kind of traitor.  So weird lol

Of course she doesnít let it die because it really seems like the only attention she gets.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 09, 2019, 04:53:44 PM
Doesn't Melissa have at least one young child?  It's sad to see a mother spend so much of her time on Twitter harassing people instead of spending it with her son.  I guess she has more time than the rest of us because I don't think she has a day job, but still.  If you have that much free time on top of being a full-time mom, find a creative hobby or volunteer for a women's charity or something.  She is just making herself look more and more pathetic and less credible the longer this goes on.  Give it up already and move on with your life.

I've said all along that no one will ever know the truth of what happened except Melissa and Nick, and I think it's likely that neither of them are flat out "lying," but disagree on what that truth is.  They were both drunk when it happened, and it's been so long, it's very possible that they remember that night differently.  What Nick may have thought was consensual sex, Melissa may genuinely see as rape for whatever reason - likely regret about the whole situation.  Nick is no saint, but I've always thought it was unfair for some so-called "fans" to insist we take Melissa at her word with absolutely no proof and turn our backs on Nick.  Why should we blindly believe her but not believe him when he said he thought it was consensual?  Oh, right, because most of us are women, and women should support other women.  Melissa should remember that when she's attacking other women on Twitter.  What a hypocrite.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 09, 2019, 04:58:00 PM
It is sad that friendships have ended over it, but when your friendship is online and based solely around one thing (in this case, BSB), and then you lose that one thing you had in common, it can be hard to maintain the friendship... especially when friends start shaming each other for taking different sides.  This is why I tried to stay out of it on Twitter, especially right after all this went down a couple years ago.  I didn't want to be attacked by someone I considered a friend for choosing to stay a fan of Nick and BSB.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 09, 2019, 06:04:19 PM
Ugh! I hate that just because itís the me too era, weíre expected to always side with the accusers. In other situations that doesnít happen. I mean I think I have seen people upset because they were accused of something they didnít do. How annoying for them if that didnít matter because society demands you believe the other person without question.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 09, 2019, 09:15:51 PM
I forgot to say this before, but I was thinking the same thing you posted about donating time to victim causes etc... Seems like the only victims she cares about are anyone who claims they had a Nick encounter as well. Not realizing people will always come out of the woodwork just to get attention from a ďcelebrityí of any kind. Much the same way people start fan clubs for wives of celebs with the hopes of getting attention that way. The whole thing is annoying but Iíll stop now lol I guess I had 2 years of ranting to make up for.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 10, 2019, 02:24:46 PM
I'm gonna come back and reply to your posts but I'm hearing BJ took out an RO on Jane and Aaron?

I mean, obviously you're the problem if all the siblings but him are united on this.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on November 10, 2019, 02:49:27 PM
Sounds like a right mess to me, I've only read a couple of things as don't really use Twitter, but what I have seen is just crazy.  Aaron needs to be in a secure unit and this Melissa woman should just put it behind her, sounds like a drunken one nighter that they both regret.  If she's got a husband and kids shouldn't she be more focused on them?



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 10, 2019, 09:31:49 PM
I think my saddest takeaway is that people have broken off friendships with me. I know a few people who, decided to be neutral or don't feel right supporting BSB. I told them that's their right and we can just agree to disagree and not talk about it. So it can happen. Others, well...

I've been called a lot of names, including being told I'm a traitor to my gender. I've had people who have known me for years, people I've hung out with person and I thought KNEW me as a person throw out insults and then just break off the friendships, block me, etc. Why? Because I believed Nick instead.

Perception is a funny thing. I was very inclined back in 2017 to think they both saw it differently. Her actions have changed my mind on this. The way Melissa behaves has lead me to believe there's lies in the mix since I've personally been lied about. Lies don't know gender. And honestly it's dumb. Look at the Jussie case. Think if it'd been years ago he claimed he got assualted and there was no proof, it could've ruined lives.

And honestly even if they're right. That's NO excuse to harass random fans. Like...this for example that got dmed to me (sadly as much as I tell fans I don't want to see it, I still get dms at times). Her dad is flat out admitting he's searching Nick and BSB and attacking anyone who is a fan. Just for being a fan. I suppose that sort of harassment is just fine.

https://twitter.com/theagent/status/1193705435775172608?s=20

https://twitter.com/theagent/status/1193705620106465281?s=20


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on November 10, 2019, 09:52:43 PM
Rose: Iím so sorry they bully you. No one have right to bully people on social media! If you need to talk to someone Iím here.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 10, 2019, 10:01:13 PM
Thanks. Honestly I'm fine. Annoyed? Yes but fine. I know what's true, those around me who matter know what's true. I don't need to try to convince people who don't even know me what's real LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on November 10, 2019, 10:06:18 PM
Rose: you are welcome! I was bully too on social media because Iím different because of my illness


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 11, 2019, 09:34:00 AM
I'm gonna come back and reply to your posts but I'm hearing BJ took out an RO on Jane and Aaron?

I mean, obviously you're the problem if all the siblings but him are united on this.

Wow! I thought BJ was a lost cause. That is just all kinds of messed up.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 11, 2019, 09:42:30 AM
I think my saddest takeaway is that people have broken off friendships with me. I know a few people who, decided to be neutral or don't feel right supporting BSB. I told them that's their right and we can just agree to disagree and not talk about it. So it can happen. Others, well...

I've been called a lot of names, including being told I'm a traitor to my gender. I've had people who have known me for years, people I've hung out with person and I thought KNEW me as a person throw out insults and then just break off the friendships, block me, etc. Why? Because I believed Nick instead.

Perception is a funny thing. I was very inclined back in 2017 to think they both saw it differently. Her actions have changed my mind on this. The way Melissa behaves has lead me to believe there's lies in the mix since I've personally been lied about. Lies don't know gender. And honestly it's dumb. Look at the Jussie case. Think if it'd been years ago he claimed he got assualted and there was no proof, it could've ruined lives.

And honestly even if they're right. That's NO excuse to harass random fans. Like...this for example that got dmed to me (sadly as much as I tell fans I don't want to see it, I still get dms at times). Her dad is flat out admitting he's searching Nick and BSB and attacking anyone who is a fan. Just for being a fan. I suppose that sort of harassment is just fine.

https://twitter.com/theagent/status/1193705435775172608?s=20

https://twitter.com/theagent/status/1193705620106465281?s=20

That is so disheartening. Like I said before, to lose friendships over something that really is just a difference of opinion is ridiculous. I guess it just shows their true colors. Still sucks though.

What in the world is up with her dad? Is he her manager or something? If so, bang up job with that. Those two are being everything they are supposed to be against. Just another reason sheís not taken seriously by most  people and also why her story stalls out. Sheís not a nice or even good person. People donít really care about bad people and if we look at her behavior and compare it to Nickís. It seems a very easy choice. Good lord. Well I guess weíll see if they start with me now although Iíve only ranted here lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 11, 2019, 11:01:33 AM
Wow, I thought BJ was the only one who was still close to Jane (before Aaron reconciled with her).  That's bad if even she has turned her back on them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 11, 2019, 11:05:26 AM
They're gonna have to attack a whole lot of people if they go after everyone who mentions Nick or BSB.  Bring it!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 11, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
That is so disheartening. Like I said before, to lose friendships over something that really is just a difference of opinion is ridiculous. I guess it just shows their true colors. Still sucks though.

What in the world is up with her dad? Is he her manager or something? If so, bang up job with that. Those two are being everything they are supposed to be against. Just another reason sheís not taken seriously by most  people and also why her story stalls out. Sheís not a nice or even good person. People donít really care about bad people and if we look at her behavior and compare it to Nickís. It seems a very easy choice. Good lord. Well I guess weíll see if they start with me now although Iíve only ranted here lol


Supposedly he's not. Which makes it worse LOL. I don't think you have to worry Mare since this isn't on Twitter.

It is sad but you're right in that it really shows true colors. I don't think someone I don't know, whether it be Melissa or Nick is worth throwing a friendship away but, oh well.

They're gonna have to attack a whole lot of people if they go after everyone who mentions Nick or BSB.  Bring it!

LOL! Have I said I love you today?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 11, 2019, 09:42:26 PM
Love you too!  Don't let the haters get you down.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 15, 2019, 03:42:06 AM
Have any of you guys seen this? Apparently Aaron is bringing Jane to California after her relapse and did an IG live where Jane smacks her pregnant pug from her puppy mill hard. Peta got wind and called them out. Now, her and Aaron are claiming it's a smear campaign from Nick, Angel and Bobbi. Saying they are trying to prevent Aaron from going to the hearing about Nick's RO here in Vegas next week.

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1195157936722632704?s=19

I can only imagine how that hearing will be, poor Nick, Angel, and BJ. Jane hasn't changed a bit and is literally gaslighting Aaron's illness.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 15, 2019, 05:26:56 AM
Why on earth would they be trying to keep Aaron away from his court hearing? I would think Nick would want that trial to happen mainly so he can be done with it.

I heard about it but refuse to watch it. I canít take watching stuff like that. Iím one of those people who has to change the channel when those sad Sarah McLachlan animal commercials come on.

I feel so bad for the sane Carters. I hope BJ is close to Nick and Angel or at least has people she can turn to. Those two need to be admitted into a psych ward for a long stay.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 15, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
That video is just of them blaming the siblings cause yeah I can't watch the dog video either.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 15, 2019, 03:13:44 PM
Ah ok lol Iíll watch it then.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 15, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
I just watched it. I still donít know why they think that Nick doesnít want them coming to the court date. So weird. Itís kind of cringe worthy how much Aaron sounds like Nick. My sister and I are the same. You canít tell which one of us is talking.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 15, 2019, 04:35:36 PM
I just watched it. I still donít know why they think that Nick doesnít want them coming to the court date. So weird. Itís kind of cringe worthy how much Aaron sounds like Nick. My sister and I are the same. You canít tell which one of us is talking.

In that sense it's tragic Aaron self destructed. He sounds so much like Nick and when he wants to and isn't using auto tune can sing like Nick too. He could have been in a different place in his life if he'd get out of his own way.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 15, 2019, 09:12:30 PM
I heard about it and watched the video of Aaron and Jane trashing Nick, Angel, and BJ, but I didn't want to watch the ones of her hurting the dog.  Here I was hoping she would get out of rehab and act more like a responsible mother and get some help for her son.  Obviously that was wishful thinking.  Alcoholism is far from her only problem; she's got some mental health issues as well.

It is scary how much Aaron sounds like Nick.  He really is talented, but he's too much of a trainwreck to ever be taken seriously as an artist.

I'm glad Nick seems to be close with Lauren's dad.  At least he has one parental figure in his life that he can count on.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 15, 2019, 09:13:59 PM
Is it true that Aaron was in the hospital the other day?  Anyone know what that was about?  I follow the Whatsthetruth account, but I've been too busy to keep up with all this crap.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 15, 2019, 10:10:54 PM
I saw articles about it but given that apparently he got out, went to a pawn shop and started drinking, I'm not sure. I look at that account but since I've already been accused of running it (which is funny since they tweet from iPhones and I have an Android) I don't follow them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 15, 2019, 10:12:35 PM
I heard about it and watched the video of Aaron and Jane trashing Nick, Angel, and BJ, but I didn't want to watch the ones of her hurting the dog.  Here I was hoping she would get out of rehab and act more like a responsible mother and get some help for her son.  Obviously that was wishful thinking.  Alcoholism is far from her only problem; she's got some mental health issues as well.

It is scary how much Aaron sounds like Nick.  He really is talented, but he's too much of a trainwreck to ever be taken seriously as an artist.

I'm glad Nick seems to be close with Lauren's dad.  At least he has one parental figure in his life that he can count on.

I had higher hopes than I should have for Jane Carter. I thought maybe as a mom she might give a shit that her son is spiraling bad. Especially after seeing that clip of them promoting Marriage Boot Camp where she seemed to try to keep a handle on Aaron and being uncomfortable with his behavior. I should've known better. She literally hasn't changed. Still using her kids for attention and financial.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 16, 2019, 03:29:02 AM
Probably because of my own parents, I never had any expectations that Jane would change. Sheís always going to put her own needs above her childrenís which is why sheís latching on to Aaron because heís the only chance she has of profiting off her children. Itís sad.

As far as the hospital. I saw both E news & EW tweet about him being rushed to the hospital and there was a picture of him in a hospital bed. I guess whatever it was, he got over it fast.

I was following that site too but there was so much stuff he was doing and saying, my timeline suddenly became all about Aaron so I unfollowed lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 16, 2019, 04:12:10 AM
https://twitter.com/biddyone1/status/1195640269472841729?s=20

I can't sleep cause I keep sneezing. This is getting scary. Jane tells the cops he's manic "I didn't realize he was this bad"

THREE of your kids have ROs out on him Jane. Good lord.

https://twitter.com/biddyone1/status/1195642588658716672?s=20

She also admits the reason why they were in the hospital was to refill the pills Aaron needs. After saying there's pill bottles all over the floor.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 16, 2019, 05:27:48 AM
And now BJ has spoken out. Yikes.

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1195664434137456640?s=20


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 16, 2019, 07:01:45 AM
Holy crap! BJís post was completely incoherent but Jesus. Itís just so sad seeing this whole thing play out. Iím so glad Nick has been staying out of all of this cuckoo stuff between his family and that Melissa chick. Too bad heís super famous because if I were him Iíd change my last name and just leave.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 16, 2019, 08:54:03 AM
Check out BJ's Facebook page for more posts.  She's been on a roll this morning!  https://www.facebook.com/bobbie.carter.522066  I'm glad to see her speaking out, siding with Nick and Angel, and defending Nick because I always thought she was closer to Jane.  Apparently not anymore.  As terrible as all this family drama is, hopefully it will bring Nick, Angel, and BJ closer together.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on November 16, 2019, 08:58:22 AM
Her Facebook page is private we cannot read what she post.

Aaron is dangerous right now! He is need help right now!

I donít know why kids protection didnít remove all the kids when they was younger from this house.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 16, 2019, 09:00:40 AM
Also, did anyone else see Jane prancing around the fancy custom jewelry store in a unicorn onesie on Aaron's IG story? LMAO  Aaron's acting all thug, asking for whiskey while he walks around and looks at ugly bling he can't actually afford, while Jane is carrying around a pug puppy in a full-on baby blue unicorn onesie.  I don't know which one of them looked more ridiculous.  Stay classy, Carters.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 16, 2019, 09:01:14 AM
Her Facebook page is private we cannot read what she post.

Aaron is dangerous right now! He is need help right now!

I donít know why kids protection didnít remove all the kids when they was younger from this house.

These posts are all public so you should be able to read them if you go to her page.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 16, 2019, 02:21:47 PM
Also, did anyone else see Jane prancing around the fancy custom jewelry store in a unicorn onesie on Aaron's IG story? LMAO  Aaron's acting all thug, asking for whiskey while he walks around and looks at ugly bling he can't actually afford, while Jane is carrying around a pug puppy in a full-on baby blue unicorn onesie.  I don't know which one of them looked more ridiculous.  Stay classy, Carters.



Lol mustíve missed that one! I did read BJís posts though. Wow! I hope this doesnít sound mean but can you imagine having a brother as a Backstreet Boy while you are a server at Applebeeís?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 16, 2019, 05:11:43 PM
I have screenshots of the unicorn onesie, but I don't know how to post them here without uploading them somewhere else first... too much effort right now.

LOL I've thought the same thing about BJ, but hey, at least she has an actual job so she can support herself and not try to mooch off her brother.  Good for her.  I hope she's gotten her life together too.  At least she seems to stay out of the drama.  Until today, I hadn't heard anything from her in years.

So apparently since I last got caught up on the Carter saga, Aaron has ditched Jane somewhere in Texas or Arizona?  They were driving from Florida to California together, but she's not in the car anymore.  From what I've seen, he has claimed she was ODing in the passenger seat, but he also accused her of "setting him up."  I also saw a video where he called the police to claim Nick was putting hits out on him, sending gang members to kill him, and apparently he has also claimed he has esophageal cancer (while smoking) and that his family is literally killing him.  I'm not sure how they could have given him cancer, but okay.

You know it's bad when even Jane starts calling him manic and crazy.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 16, 2019, 06:20:32 PM
Whoa. So where's Jane? She's horrible but I don't want something to happen to her. I hope she's okay cause it's a bit scary that she essentially went MIA on this road trip in the middle of the country.

Honestly BJ calling Melissa out in one of her FB posts about using Aaron gave me life. I get that Angel and Nick can't say anything, especially with the hearings so close but man, I'm glad someone spoke up.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 16, 2019, 07:37:34 PM
Apparently she stayed in Arizona with his Uncle Steve (her brother?), who is "dying in ICU," according to Aaron.  I thought it was scary that she disappeared too.  She is horrible, but she's looking like the saner one of the two right now.

Haha, I have to go catch up on BJ's posts!  I appreciate BJ so much today.  I know Nick can't speak his mind, nor should he, because he comes off classier taking the high road and not resorting to Aaron's tactics... but I love her going after Aaron, Jane, and apparently now Melissa.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 16, 2019, 07:48:51 PM
Did she actually call Melissa out by name, or are you just talking about the post where she mentioned all the people ganging up with Aaron against Nick?  I would love to see her and Melissa go at it LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 16, 2019, 08:04:43 PM
No not by name. I wish lol. But the one where she talks about girls ganging up on Nick with Aaron and using Me Too for their 15 mins felt pretty pointed LOL.

I would love to see those two go off. Someone convince BJ to come back to Twitter lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 16, 2019, 08:44:12 PM
I canít believe the police came and they didnít cart him off to a looney bin.

I can live without seeing Jane in a onesie lol

Hopefully Jane was dropped somewhere safe. Maybe the police brought her to her dying brothers house?

I am proud of BJ. Hope she stays away from her mom and Aaron and starts hanging out with Nick and Angel.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 16, 2019, 09:34:16 PM
She's broke and in Florida, and apparently lives next door to Jane LOL. I peeped her FB today.

I'm AMAZED he didn't get 5150'd. Like he's not well and Jane was legitimately scared.

According to BJ Jane is trying to get back to Florida now. So I guess so? As long as Jane's okay I don't feel too sorry. You reap what you sow.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 16, 2019, 10:50:43 PM
After seeing some of the videos where he's telling the cops to write down the names of all the random people on Instagram who are commenting things he doesn't want to hear, including one guy in Australia... yeah, I'm amazed he didn't too.  He sounds completely paranoid and insane.  What are random cops in Texas going to do about some guy in Australia??


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 17, 2019, 01:43:48 AM
Right lmao.

Aaron's definitely paranoid and it's not helping that he's on IG Live 24/7 so people on social media can be the worst and feed that paranoia by saying stupid shit to him.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 17, 2019, 04:15:53 AM
How can his fans really think thereís nothing wrong with him? I can understand if they were kids, but I would imagine the average AC fan has to be in their 20ís by now. I mean you can still be a fan but also acknowledge that heís not making sense and making things up irrationally as he goes along. The fact that it took Jane driving in a car with him before realizing he was Ďoffí is incredible to me.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 17, 2019, 01:26:11 PM
How can his fans really think thereís nothing wrong with him? I can understand if they were kids, but I would imagine the average AC fan has to be in their 20ís by now. I mean you can still be a fan but also acknowledge that heís not making sense and making things up irrationally as he goes along. The fact that it took Jane driving in a car with him before realizing he was Ďoffí is incredible to me.

I wonder the same thing. Hell looking back I've wondered if during Nick's dark days had I not been so young (16 in 2002, 21 by late 2007 when he slowly started to try and get his shit together) would I have still put up with it. Most AC fans aren't even that young, many have kids. They're willfully blind at this point to what he's become though I've seen some see the light and get bashed for it.

Jane I think refused to see it. She thought she could handle it cause money then it turned out he could've gotten them killed and she was like oh shit.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 17, 2019, 03:17:55 PM
Also remember Jane was in rehab during a large part of this downward spiral the rest of us have been witnessing, so she probably didn't have access to social media to see what was happening.  If no one else in the family has been talking to her, she probably had no idea.  She had to see it for herself.  I hate defending her, but in this case, I understand.  I'm glad she was able to recognize that he is not well.

I don't understand how his fans can claim he's fine when every member of his family, the people who know him best, has come out and expressed their concerns about him.  Do these people really think the WHOLE family is conspiring against him?  The Carters can't even get along with each other, yet they seem to agree on this.  Wake up!  Open your eyes!

I'm glad social media wasn't around to this extent during Nick's dark days because I think we would have seen a lot more than we did and lost some respect for him.  While I sure didn't condone some of the things he did that went public, like the DUI and dating Paris Hilton, there was a lot of stuff we didn't know about until after the fact.  While I will always be a fan, I'd like to think I wouldn't have just blindly supported Nick and denied that anything was wrong if I had as much information and evidence as we do with Aaron.  I would have wanted the other guys to intervene like they did with AJ and get him some help.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 17, 2019, 03:23:43 PM
Did you see this video of him talking about destroying and dismantling the Backstreet Boys?

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1196120024928395265

I know Aaron is a pathological liar who's probably all bark and no bite, but I don't understand how he can get away with continuing to threaten Nick with a restraining order out against him and not face any consequences for that.  "When they lose Nick"... seriously?  This is not okay!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 17, 2019, 03:52:06 PM
I'm pretty sure Nick's lawyers are probably going to use the documented threats at the hearing. It makes the most sense.

I'm very thankful social media didn't exist back in the day. Nick would've been awful on it. And man, imagine AJ.

You have a point about Jane in rehab but I do think Jane could tell something was off when her and Aaron were talking to press together when that reality show premiered. Aaron apparently blasted screenshots he got from his mom's phone from Angel where she's begging Jane to get Aaron help.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 17, 2019, 04:50:22 PM
I think she could too.  I just don't think she fully realized how bad it was until she got trapped in a car with him roadtripping across the country.

Yeah, Nick and AJ are lucky social media wasn't a thing back then.  I hope Nick's lawyers are paying attention to all this and will use it against him.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 17, 2019, 05:05:43 PM
Okay. I just saw this and I missed this too in all the chaos. Aaron having his mom pretend to be BJ on the phone to fake confirm assaults? How evil can you be Jane? Aaron is completely out of whack and while not off the hook, I can at least go he's not in his right mind.

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1196202515500388352?s=19


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 17, 2019, 06:33:23 PM
Well BJ called out Melissa by name. GO BJ!

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1196224094515187713?s=19


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on November 17, 2019, 06:52:58 PM
He is totally out of control! I donít know why the police didnít stop him and someday he is gonna kill someone


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 17, 2019, 07:07:02 PM
BJ is cracking me up. Go girl!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 17, 2019, 07:09:59 PM
BJ is cracking me up. Go girl!

Same. You'd think the people who sped up clips of HOC and used the infamous Paris fight to prove Nick is evil would've watched enough to know BJ has a bad temper and shouldn't be screwed with LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 17, 2019, 08:56:55 PM
BJ will cut a bitch! Lol

I agree about Jane in rehab but then you see her in the car egging Aaronís behavior on when sheís the one who says Nickís name after he said something crazy. I do believe the only person Jane cares about is Jane. The way her kids act, reflect that.

Aaron is completely out of his mind. It is unsettling all the threats he throws at Nick and BSB. According to that twitter that always posts about him, heís doing a taping of Dr. Oz. I wonder how thatís going to go. I really dislike him him too.

Iím glad Twitter wasnít a thing back in the Black and Blue days. I probably wouldnít have become the full blown fan I am now if I knew about some of the crazy stuff going on at that time.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 17, 2019, 09:14:24 PM
Aaron cancelled on Dr. Oz to go pick up Jane which is for the best. No need to keep enabling his shit on TV.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 18, 2019, 12:37:32 PM
Okay. I'm seeing tweets that Melissa commented on Aaron's kive that she'll be going to court with him?

What the hell.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 18, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
Well thatíll be interesting and very creepy. They should take out a restraining order on her too while theyíre at it. Iím sure sheís trying to goad Nick into saying something to her. If she is stupid enough to go, I hope he just totally ignores her.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 18, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
She's been trying to provoke him for 2 years. I bet he'll ignore her too. He's been smart in all this so I expect him to keep his cool.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 18, 2019, 05:09:08 PM
I do think Nick will ignore her.  He's been great at publicly ignoring her, which is probably for the best.  As much as I would love to see him go off on her, he comes off classier taking the high road and not saying anything.

Is this court date in Vegas?  Is Melissa living in Vegas now?  I know you had heard she was looking for a house there, Rose, but not sure if she ever bought one.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 18, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
On an unrelated but happier note, go look up loridormanphot ography on Instagram and watch her stories for cute videos of her photo shoot with Nick, Lauren, and Saoirse today.  So sweet!!  Lauren shared some of them, but Lori has a lot more on her account: https://www.instagram.com/loridormanphotography/  There's one with a "rainbow baby" theme that is just beautiful, and Nick gets all choked up when he sees her... brought tears to my eyes.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 18, 2019, 07:31:08 PM
Aww I watched both Nick and Laurenís insta-lives so adorable. I used to always get Anne Geddes calendars every year. She was known for baby pictures like the ones from that studio. Makes me very hormonal lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 18, 2019, 08:38:19 PM
I do think Nick will ignore her.  He's been great at publicly ignoring her, which is probably for the best.  As much as I would love to see him go off on her, he comes off classier taking the high road and not saying anything.

Is this court date in Vegas?  Is Melissa living in Vegas now?  I know you had heard she was looking for a house there, Rose, but not sure if she ever bought one.

Nick's is because he lives here. Angel's would have to be in California. As far as I know Melissa never moved here. The courthouse is right off the Strip like a block away from the mob museum lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 18, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
On an unrelated but happier note, go look up loridormanphot ography on Instagram and watch her stories for cute videos of her photo shoot with Nick, Lauren, and Saoirse today.  So sweet!!  Lauren shared some of them, but Lori has a lot more on her account: https://www.instagram.com/loridormanphotography/  There's one with a "rainbow baby" theme that is just beautiful, and Nick gets all choked up when he sees her... brought tears to my eyes.

Yes! This brightened the heck out of my day when I saw it. So sweet.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 18, 2019, 10:01:35 PM
Yes!  I'm sure Aaron and Melissa just seethe seeing them so happy, and that is sad.  Melissa needs to move on and focus on her own family, and if Aaron would only follow Nick's lead and get himself some help, he too could find happiness and stability someday.  But instead they just keep hating and obsessing over Nick.  Jealousy and bitterness are not attractive traits.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 19, 2019, 12:11:55 AM
Yes!  I'm sure Aaron and Melissa just seethe seeing them so happy, and that is sad.  Melissa needs to move on and focus on her own family, and if Aaron would only follow Nick's lead and get himself some help, he too could find happiness and stability someday.  But instead they just keep hating and obsessing over Nick.  Jealousy and bitterness are not attractive traits.

I need the bolded put onto a t-shirt and mailed to them LOL.

I'm seeing tweets that the hearing is tomorrow? But honestly I have no idea for sure. I'll keep an ear out on local news, see if anything pops up. Agreed about Melissa moving on. It's so unhealthy for her to not only latch on to Aaron but to come out here for a court hearing that has NOTHING to do with her and her dad. It's just creepy.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 19, 2019, 01:39:15 AM
Okay it's Angel's hearing tomorrow. Aaron is tweeting about being ready in LA. Nick's must be later this week. This should be a whole new shitshow.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 19, 2019, 07:03:43 AM
Maybe Melissa will be going to Angelís court date. Still equally odd. I mean itís good to be there to support someone if youíre their BFF but then again if youíre his BFF, you should be encouraging him to get back on his meds and seek some help. Iím pretty sure Melissa isnít that person. I really hope Aaron has at least one person in his life that will do that, that maybe he hasnít been a complete douchebag to.

Iím sure weíll get some kind of report about how it goes.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 19, 2019, 06:06:40 PM
So Melissa DID go to Angel's court date today, which may still be going on.  I just got home from work a while ago and am playing catch up on all the drama.  Apparently Aaron showed up way late, and Melissa got kicked out of the courtroom LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 19, 2019, 06:17:15 PM
Can anyone tell me what LMG stands for?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 19, 2019, 07:35:43 PM
"Love Money Gang"

Aaron started using it for his cult of fans. Yes I'm rolling my eyes.

Someone on twitter was giving updates since it's a public hearing anyone can attend. Melissa claimed they were lying and got kicked out (thus proving that person was there lol cause I had doubts on that, so thanks Melissa). Funnily enough though that was a lie, and that person wasn't kicked out and had gone quiet on updates due to the judge saying no more phones. Then Melissa got kicked out of the courtroom as the judge told her she's irrelevant lmao. Honestly she shouldn't have even been there. The restraining order got upheld so now Melissa and Aaron are playing like they wanted that and are celebrating which is sick. Especially since it's been confirmed he really DID make those threats against Lauren and baby Saoirse.

Nick's hearing is tomorrow and supposedly Melissa plans to attend that too. Which is again, disgusting. But given how this played out I'm positive Nick's will be granted too.

The photo in case you haven't seen it Mare.

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1196958247820898305?s=20


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 19, 2019, 07:44:31 PM
Absolutely disgusting.

I love how she's "triggered" by everything because of her "trauma," yet not too much to be in the same room as her "abuser" when she doesn't have to be.  You'd think just talking to Aaron would be traumatizing, since his voice sounds so much like Nick's, but that doesn't seem to bother her.  Then again, neither does stalking Nick's social media.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 19, 2019, 07:46:38 PM
Thanks for clearing up LMG, btw!  I knew it was the nickname for his cult and have seen it everywhere, but could never find out what it stood for.  It's a fitting name, but I think it should be LMAG - Love Money & Attention Gang.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 19, 2019, 07:58:47 PM
Absolutely disgusting.

I love how she's "triggered" by everything because of her "trauma," yet not too much to be in the same room as her "abuser" when she doesn't have to be.  You'd think just talking to Aaron would be traumatizing, since his voice sounds so much like Nick's, but that doesn't seem to bother her.  Then again, neither does stalking Nick's social media.

Right. I said that earlier. She claimed earlier this year that the Doritos commercial triggered her. YET this doesn't? The hell. If she really does go tomorrow you know it's solely to fuck with Nick and there's a lot wrong with that. I almost hope he just sends his lawyer instead. Technically he doesn't have to go as long as his representation does, which I think would be a nice screw you to the Schumans.

Thanks for clearing up LMG, btw!  I knew it was the nickname for his cult and have seen it everywhere, but could never find out what it stood for.  It's a fitting name, but I think it should be LMAG - Love Money & Attention Gang.

I wish I knew less about all this mess to be honest lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 19, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Thanks for all the info! I only got bits and pieces on Twitter. That picture is just wrong! I was hoping theyíd put him in the hospital because of his erratic behavior but maybe he didnít act like a complete looney toon in the courtroom.

I hope Nick doesnít go to the hearing. Maybe when he hears about how it went today, heíll decide to stay away. It makes no sense for Melissa to go tomorrow since she was kicked out today for being irrelevant. That seems weird too unless it was closed to the public but if it was, then how did the other girl manage to stay? Itís truly remarkable how sheís making this about her. At least Aaron was forced to give up all his guns. Not sure what just a year will do.

Was Jane there?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 19, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
Thanks for all the info! I only got bits and pieces on Twitter. That picture is just wrong! I was hoping theyíd put him in the hospital because of his erratic behavior but maybe he didnít act like a complete looney toon in the courtroom.

I hope Nick doesnít go to the hearing. Maybe when he hears about how it went today, heíll decide to stay away. It makes no sense for Melissa to go tomorrow since she was kicked out today for being irrelevant. That seems weird too unless it was closed to the public but if it was, then how did the other girl manage to stay? Itís truly remarkable how sheís making this about her. At least Aaron was forced to give up all his guns. Not sure what just a year will do.

Was Jane there?

I don't think Melissa got kicked out for being irrelevant, I think she got kicked out for breaking rules (probably tweeting after the judge said no phones?) or something and the judge called her that when she tried to stay. It's guess work but the other girl's updates turned out accurate.

According to TMZ Aaron was screaming at the judge so I think he was full blown in crazytown. I don't know how he didn't get put on a hold.

Melissa defending that disgusting photo.

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1196980032465489925?s=20

No Jane is still in AZ trying to get back to Florida.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 20, 2019, 04:44:17 AM
I canít believe he was screaming at the judge and still didnít get a psych hold! Maybe itís something that can only happen if itís pre requested as part of the RO? I guess it shouldnít really surprise me since you hear so many new stories of people who had ROís against them and then went ahead and killed those people anyway.  Youíd think that would be avoided if they were put in psych holds and didnít have access to illegal guns because letís face it, if AC wants a gun heíll get one. I can see MS going and buying one for him. 

I read her sorry excuse for that picture followed by calling him her little brother. Wtf? Iíd want to have nothing at all to do with my attackers family, let alone with one violent enough to own a ton of guns and have a restraining orders against him. Like Iíve said, this isnít going to end well. I think heís going to end up in jail, but that seems a better alternative than him overdosing or killing himself.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 20, 2019, 04:14:48 PM
Today Aaron chickened out and didn't go. Just his lawyer went. So Nick got granted the RO and Aaron gets felony charges if he breaks it. Which won't take long as he's not supposed to be mentioning Nick on social media.

Melissa is of course trying to make it about herself, talking about it being upsetting that she couldn't be a witness yesterday. Girl, the judge called you irrelevant because you are.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 20, 2019, 07:12:19 PM
Okay more details about what happened yesterday. She got called irrelevant because they were trying to say the ROs were due to that 1st IG live they did together in Sept (where she's laughing as he loads his guns and talking about Nick). Paperwork shows the ROsvwere first initiated days before so she's irrelevant lol.

Man I don't know who runs that truth account but they're good at backing their shit up. Part of the RO got tweeted out earlier.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 20, 2019, 08:11:30 PM
Ah okay. I didnít realize he didnít show. I was wondering who the 3 no shows you mentioned in your tweet were. I knew one was Melissa but Now I know Aaron was one as well. Iím assuming her dad was the other one?

Aaron is going to end up in jail because I canít see him restraining himself (no pun intended) from talking about his brother in a threatening, slanderous way. Iím glad Nick won but Iím sure it was a hard day for him. Thereís really no winners in this situation.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 20, 2019, 09:23:27 PM
Ah okay. I didnít realize he didnít show. I was wondering who the 3 no shows you mentioned in your tweet were. I knew one was Melissa but Now I know Aaron was one as well. Iím assuming her dad was the other one?

Aaron is going to end up in jail because I canít see him restraining himself (no pun intended) from talking about his brother in a threatening, slanderous way. Iím glad Nick won but Iím sure it was a hard day for him. Thereís really no winners in this situation.

Yup. That tweet blew up which I didn't see coming. But whatever. I meant what I said. Technically I think Aaron already violated it on TMZ.

They're cowards. They have a fake account going on and on for two years harassing me and others that Nick has a wall he "hides" behind. Yet who showed up? Nick. Even though he knew that Melissa and her dad might go to intimidate him.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 20, 2019, 09:36:50 PM
I'm glad Nick and Lauren showed up and Melissa (and Aaron) did not.  I just hope the authorities will take this RO seriously and follow through with consequences for Aaron violating it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 20, 2019, 09:40:07 PM
He's literally live on Insta talking about Nick right now.  Nothing threatening, just "People expect me to be like Nick; I'm not Nick" and "I will never talk to my sister again.  I will never talk to Nick again."  But it's only a matter of time before it escalates back into threats and defamation.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 21, 2019, 01:41:37 AM
I try to ignore Melissa because honestly who needs that level of toxic negativity. Now that the RO drama is over it's time to go back to ignoring her. But I got a text from a friend cause she was outraged. And honestly so am I. Using an edited clip from HOC about a dead family member to try and provoke people?

I'm sorry but what the fuck is wrong with her?

https://twitter.com/MelissaSchuman/status/1197394594335318018?s=20


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 21, 2019, 04:09:53 AM
Ugh once again, the creepy meter is off the charts! This means that Melissa is so familiar with HOC and probably has the episodes saved somewhere that she remembered this scene and then actually edited it to fit her narrative. Iím sorry but just...no! Iím going to go back to not caring about this girl again but just like Aaron and his fans, why hasnít her behavior raised any red flags for Melissaís fans? Honestly, Iím more afraid sheís going to show up at Nickís house with a gun one day even more than Aaron. As it is, I picture her breaking into the Carter house and wearing his clothes when heís not there. Jeez Louise!

Next step for everyone who follows her out of curiosity and to defend Nick - stop! The one thing thatíll bother her most is seeing everyone move on with their lives. Maybe sheíll take a hint and do the same.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 21, 2019, 04:13:16 AM
That's what I've been saying. Cause if people give her attention she feeds on it. And not to mention it's just upsetting. This one though horrified me.

But yes, time for everyone to just ignore her. Once the Boys are doing things again in 2020 fans will refocus.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 21, 2019, 09:36:35 PM
I find it so ironic that she called Nick a master manipulator in that tweet when she literally is the one trying to manipulate by editing the clip.  Such a hypocrite!  She just makes herself look worse and worse.  She has stooped so low, I don't know how the people who still believe her can have any respect for her.

I agree with what you said, Mare.  The best thing people can do (and the worst thing for her) is ignore her and not feed into her desperate need for attention.  Follow Nick's lead.  Too bad he doesn't have a restraining order against her and her dad because they're worse than Aaron in many ways.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 24, 2019, 09:07:30 AM
I'm surprised no one has commented on Lauren going live with that Ganval guy last night!  If you didn't see the video, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3caWHhGsBw&feature=youtu.be  She comes on at about the 1:20 mark.  Very interesting!  Go Lauren!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 24, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
I just watched it and honestly it just confused me. This guy sounds like a jerk in his own right. I donít get the whole random people going live on Instagram. Is it like the equivalent of being an Ďinfluencer?

Iím not sure how I feel about her getting involved. I know sheís probably over the whole situation, but it didnít give me a good vibe. I really feel like they both just need to stay out of it. I hope Nick doesnít start speaking out. She was right to defend that guy but keep it off the insta live. She kept throwing in how he displayed predatory behavior. Heís got issues. Again itís a super sad situation. Interesting to know heís been doing that the entire time theyíve been together. A slow decline of mental health. Yikes!



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 24, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
I don't know who this guy is, but he did admit to trying to troll Aaron.  I am surprised Lauren did this so publicly after weeks of not saying anything, but I'm sure she wouldn't have done it without Nick's blessing.  It sounds like the last straw for her was Aaron threatening to have their kids taken away... which is obviously an empty threat as there are no grounds for that, but still.  He's not supposed to be talking about them all, and he needs to be stopped.  It's sad to hear that they've been dealing with this the entire time she and Nick have been together.  Obviously we've known for years that Aaron was a mess, but there have been times off and on over the past decade that it seemed like he was better or that he and Nick were on good terms.  That just shows how Nick has tried to help him, but Aaron just keeps spiraling downward.  I think Lauren's heart is in the right place in wanting to not only stop his behavior, but get him help.  The whole family just seems at a loss of how to do that.  The restraining order protects them, but it doesn't do anything for Aaron.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 24, 2019, 03:30:29 PM
The fact that heís still sending her DMs with threats shows he either hasnít read the restraining order or he doesnít care in which case, they really just need to report him for violating it. Iím sure they donít want him to get in trouble but they went to all this trouble to get to RO, they need to show him theyíre serious about the terms. Unfortunately I think the only way heís going to get help is by being forced to go in the hospital. If step one is getting arrested then so be it. Heís going to end up hurting himself or someone else.

Sadly, I bet the only times he was close to Nick were all the times he ended up helping him out. My guess is, he wanted Nick to give him that $100,000 he is on go fund me for. The fact that people are donating to that is driving me crazy!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 24, 2019, 07:14:00 PM
I agree - I hope they do report him for continuing to talk about Nick.  According to the whatsthetruth Twitter, it wasn't Aaron himself who messaged Lauren - someone else sent her a screenshot of a comment he made threatening to have the kids taken away.  I'm not sure if that comment was made before or after the hearing last week, but regardless, even if he didn't contact her directly, he has still mentioned Nick on his lives since the hearing, and that should be enough to get him in trouble if they take it seriously.

I'm sure he's after Nick's money, and Nick must have cut him off, which is probably what sparked this whole smear campaign against him.  I can't believe people are giving him money either.  He has shown he doesn't know how to manage it, and he's been scamming his fans out of money on the merch he's sold but never shipped.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 25, 2019, 05:06:06 AM
I have mixed feelings on Lauren doing the live. I don't think it helps given how the Schumans literally stalk their every move and anyone even slightly connected to them, and they don't need any ammo. But at the same time, I do think mentioning trying to take her kids (which Aaron has also threatened to do to BJ as BJ posted the texts) I see that causing her to snap. I can relate to the helplessness in watching a sibling spiral down wanting to do something but not knowing what to do. I also know what it's like to love who they were but hate who they are now. It's messy.

I've tried to not watch this lately (cause it can get exhausting lol) but I did get a heads up about the IG chat and watched this. I think they're just at a point where they put in the RO for their own safety but they don't want to pull the trigger yet on getting him arrested. They have so much proof on how many times he's broken it. And Nick definitely knows about it, as does Lauren since she mentioned the satanist bullshit the Schumans pushed with Aaron LOL. I think Nick's saving getting Aaron arrested as a last resort when things get their most desperate.

I think in retrospect this has definitely been going on for years. I've heard the underage rumors years before this, and there's an article and tweets from as far back as 2009 about Aaron with high schoolers. We've seen Aaron with a handle on things and without. As anything is when it's involving an addict, it's complicated. We all know Nick loves the shit out of his siblings and I think as much as Aaron is hurting Nick, he doesn't want to hurt him.

Aaron I firmly believe is a victim as well. It really does showcase in his behavior. His predilection for underage girls could be because people were like that with him as a kid. Lou Pearlman for example. I'm not sure if you guys watched The Boy Band Con but I did and Aaron's bits in that were fucking haunting as hell and my heart broke for him, because you can tell by his behavior something went down. This right here is absolutely pure speculation on my part, but I do think it'd explain a few things. Corey Feldman defends Aaron a lot now and he's also someone who went through that and that could be why he's so defensive. Lord knows Jane didn't do her job as a mom or a manager so there was plenty of opportunity.

None of this though, excuses his shit. I think the drugs have made his mental illnesses worse and he's definitely self medicating which never ends well. He's stolen from fans, never sends out those gross hoodies, and then begs for money on GoFundMe. At the same time, anyone donating to him right now almost deserves to lose their money cause it's well known at this point.

Thus concludes my essay of thoughts lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 25, 2019, 05:13:00 AM
Here's the thread of tweets from years before.

https://twitter.com/whatsthetruth21/status/1198844682454716417?s=20


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 25, 2019, 05:51:34 AM
I had no idea about the satanic cult stuff? Do I even want to know? lol

All good insight. You know, way back when the House of Carterís was on, my sister and I were watching (I forced her too lol) and after watching the episode with Bob she said ďThat man definitely molested those kids!

Iíve also been telling her about whatís going on with Aaron lately and she really has no doubt in her mind he was sexually abused as a child. My sister has her Masters in social work and is a director of a child clinic. She said he displays all the signs and she said she wouldnít be surprised if it was his mom or more likely his father, just by watching their interaction and how Aaron seemed to revert back to child like behavior when he was there. She said it was clear they had all been abused at least mentally. If she had to do an assessment based on one observation, that would be it. Him being linked to teens kind of solidified those thoughts.

Iím pretty sure the Carters as a whole have a very dark past. More than we could ever really know. I mean speaking as someone whoís past is very dark, that family has been through a lot. I really want his story to have a happy ending. It seems like the other three have pulled themselves out of the dark. Seems like BJ is trying to. I canít help but wonder if this would be Nick if he didnít have the guys in his life. Thatís what Aaron needs. He needs to be around people who legitimately care about him and not who he is. At this point in his life, thatís probably a hard thing to find which is why he needs to stop all this nonsense with his family and let them in. Except his mother. They all need to move on from her toxicity.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 25, 2019, 06:35:11 PM
I hope it wasn't Bob who sexually abused Aaron, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.  (Though I don't think it was Leslie like he claimed.)  Your sister's probably right - I do think they were all abused in one form or another, even if it was just emotional abuse.  They are definitely messed up.  A lot of Aaron's issues seem to have been inherited - the mental illness, the addiction issues.  It runs in the family.

I definitely don't think Nick would be in such a good place in his life had it not been for the other guys.  They gave him examples of what stable families, marriages, and relationships look like.  I give Lauren a lot of credit for helping him become a better person, too.  She has had to put up with a ton of crap to be with him, but she's stood by his side through it all - obviously he's worth it.

I hope that one day Aaron will open his eyes and accept help from Nick and Angel.  I have seen him mention wanting to get married and have kids one day, which is a frightening thought now, but I think he's deeply jealous of both of them, not just because of money and success, but because they have the families and the stable lives he must want, deep down.  I just wish he would see that he could have those things too if he got himself sorted out.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on November 25, 2019, 06:42:31 PM
He is never gonna be able to enter in Canada without immigration papers and he cannot pass the border with his guns. We have laws against guns here.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 26, 2019, 04:31:03 AM
I hope it wasn't Bob who sexually abused Aaron, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.  (Though I don't think it was Leslie like he claimed.)  Your sister's probably right - I do think they were all abused in one form or another, even if it was just emotional abuse.  They are definitely messed up.  A lot of Aaron's issues seem to have been inherited - the mental illness, the addiction issues.  It runs in the family.

I definitely don't think Nick would be in such a good place in his life had it not been for the other guys.  They gave him examples of what stable families, marriages, and relationships look like.  I give Lauren a lot of credit for helping him become a better person, too.  She has had to put up with a ton of crap to be with him, but she's stood by his side through it all - obviously he's worth it.

I hope that one day Aaron will open his eyes and accept help from Nick and Angel.  I have seen him mention wanting to get married and have kids one day, which is a frightening thought now, but I think he's deeply jealous of both of them, not just because of money and success, but because they have the families and the stable lives he must want, deep down.  I just wish he would see that he could have those things too if he got himself sorted out.

I highly doubt it was Leslie. I do think someone did and Aaron projects it on whoever is convenient. Just like how Nick "poured alcohol down his throat" despite there literally being evidence all over including video of him trying to get Aaron to not drink. I hope it wasn't Bob but I remember that HOC episode and their reactions to Bob are so skeevy. Nick avoided him as long as he could, the girls got weird and Aaron got very very childlike.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Boys are why Nick didn't end up like Aaron. I mean Nick's told us before Kevin saved his life. I agree that Aaron is deeply jealous but he's in his own way in ever getting what they have.

Anyone see the pictures Lauren and Angel post of the babies together? I find the cousin bonding so cute and I think it's sweet Nick and Angel have each other through all this.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on November 26, 2019, 08:56:34 AM
I was wondering who that baby was in those pictures with Odin. Very cute!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 26, 2019, 06:36:25 PM
Angel's daughter Harper. I follow her cause sometimes she posts cute Nick family stuff when she visits.

So Aaron is back in court December 9th for contempt of court. Probably breaking the RO. I'm not sure who filed but I think it's Angel. Apparently it got filed the same day the RO got granted which not a shock since Aaron broke it immediately.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on November 26, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
Actually sorry, it's for Aaron screaming at the judge in court at Angel's hearing. Which, not a shock lol. You can't yell at judges.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 27, 2019, 10:45:01 PM
Good!  Maybe something more will come of the next court date.  And Mistral, I'm glad Canada has tougher gun laws than the States.  He didn't actually buy that manor in Canada he claimed to, though, so I don't think he's actually moving there.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on November 28, 2019, 01:53:54 AM
Yes Canada is good for that! With a criminal file you cannot enter in Canada.

Happy thanksgiving to all of you!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on November 28, 2019, 09:19:29 AM
Thank you!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on November 28, 2019, 09:29:20 AM
You are welcome!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 02, 2019, 05:43:49 AM
https://twitter.com/Biddyone11/status/1201405423699419136?s=09

Okay this is picking up steam. I guess BJ did a live and says Aaron is the one who raped Leslie, rather than her raping him?

Wow.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on December 02, 2019, 11:06:37 AM
Wow! Once again, this is so upsetting. I really wish they would all just keep this stuff off of social media. I get why she felt like she had to say something because Leslie isnít around to defend herself or speak up about things, but even still. Iím pretty sure Leslie wouldnít want the whole world to know her business. And I really am beginning to think Aaron is a psychopath. Somebody needs to yawn in his face to see if he catches it or not.

It seems like the Carter women and Aaron need To stop talking to these douchey troll type people with their own rumor channels on twitter. Iím also so disappointed in Lauren supposedly sharing some girls private info? Not sure about that whole story but yeah... just no!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 02, 2019, 05:02:39 PM
To be fair to Lauren she got the screenshots of those Aaron texts from someone the girl sent them to. So she may not have known the girl didn't want them to spread as that truth account had shared them once already.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on December 02, 2019, 07:21:31 PM
Wow!  That is so sad, but more believable than Leslie raping Aaron.  I don't think any of them should be talking to that sketchy dude, but I understand BJ wanting to defend Leslie since Leslie can't defend herself.  Once again, I'm glad Nick got away from this whole mess of a family.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 02, 2019, 09:15:36 PM
Yeah I wish she hadn't gone to that sketchy Shane guy. I get why she wants to speak up, because someone should. That said good on Nick for breaking the cycle of all this dysfunction.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 04, 2019, 09:46:05 PM
Okay I shouldn't laugh. I feel like an asshole. But honestly. Aaron tries to give a girl one of the hoodies he still hasn't sent to fans. She has no idea who he is, he asks if she heard of BSB which she says yes to. Then he demands it back after she says she likes BSB LOL.

https://twitter.com/PublicFeuds/status/1202345571241136129?s=19



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on December 06, 2019, 09:42:56 PM
That was hilarious!!!

I just saw the clip of him whining about how he was broke through most of his twenties and eating out of garbage cans because he was only making $654 a WEEK.  Um, that's basically what I made through most of my twenties too, and I assure you, I didn't have to eat out of garbage cans.  But then, I also didn't spend my salary on drugs, so... yeah.  I love how he alternates between being so broke he needs a GoFundMe and being so rich he can afford to buy manors in Canada.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on December 06, 2019, 10:58:03 PM
I donít think he buy the manor in Canada because he is not gonna be able to pass the border


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on December 07, 2019, 09:36:58 AM
No, he didn't really - he can't afford it, for one - but the fact that he said he was going to a few weeks ago, then started a GoFundMe because he's broke, just shows what a huge liar he is.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on December 07, 2019, 09:58:13 AM
Yeah I read what he post on Twitter


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 09, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
That was hilarious!!!

I just saw the clip of him whining about how he was broke through most of his twenties and eating out of garbage cans because he was only making $654 a WEEK.  Um, that's basically what I made through most of my twenties too, and I assure you, I didn't have to eat out of garbage cans.  But then, I also didn't spend my salary on drugs, so... yeah.  I love how he alternates between being so broke he needs a GoFundMe and being so rich he can afford to buy manors in Canada.


Right? And then he acts like ohhh he got her but um Aaron she doesn't care. She doesn't know who you are LOL.

I saw that. Like wow Aaron how entitled can you be. There's people who get that every TWO weeks and don't eat out of the trash. Smh.

His court case is today for how be acting at the one with Angel. We'll see how that goes.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on December 10, 2019, 12:56:17 AM
Iím guessing nothing exciting happened?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 10, 2019, 05:05:16 AM
He no-showed. I've seen claims he got a continuance (from Aaron so grain of salt) and others saying he just didn't go.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on December 10, 2019, 10:06:42 AM
Sounds about right for him lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on December 21, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
Did you see what Aaron said about Brian?!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on December 21, 2019, 04:06:05 PM
I didn't see what he said about Brian, but I'm watching him live on YouTube right now with that Marissa/Molly Golightly girl.  He has completely changed his tune and is now saying Melissa's claims are invalid, that Nick never raped her.  He blamed Melissa, her dad, and all these YouTube people who have gotten involved in this (Ganval, Charles Marlowe) for turning him against his family.  He still sounds batshit crazy, but at least he's going after Melissa instead of going after Nick.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on December 21, 2019, 05:19:51 PM
What did Aaron say about Brian? lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on December 21, 2019, 10:15:01 PM
He said that he gonna send bad guys to Brianís house to raped Baylee. He is totally crazy and out of control!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on December 22, 2019, 03:30:40 PM
Oh my! What is wrong with that boy!! Yikes!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on December 22, 2019, 07:25:50 PM
He need help right now


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on December 22, 2019, 07:39:20 PM
I hope he goes by himself to the hospital or the police take him by force


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 23, 2019, 03:40:09 AM
I didn't see what he said about Brian, but I'm watching him live on YouTube right now with that Marissa/Molly Golightly girl.  He has completely changed his tune and is now saying Melissa's claims are invalid, that Nick never raped her.  He blamed Melissa, her dad, and all these YouTube people who have gotten involved in this (Ganval, Charles Marlowe) for turning him against his family.  He still sounds batshit crazy, but at least he's going after Melissa instead of going after Nick.

I don't trust Aaron not to flip again but honestly his flipping on Melissa is something I've seen coming and not gonna lie, am here for. That's what she gets for trying to use and manipulate someone unwell. This doesn't undo anything he's done though. As for Marissa...she's a user just like Melissa. She's not "friends" with Nick as she plays to be and I'm sure saw her chance with Aaron to use him for attention just like Melissa. Speaking from experience, Marissa harassed anyone who didn't broadcast 24/7 defending of Nick/attacking Melissa. Even though everyone agreed staying quiet and letting shit ride out was the best way to go. I haven't forgotten the threats sent my way from Marissa/Molly.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on December 23, 2019, 10:05:24 AM
I don't trust him either, and I'm sure he has ulterior motives - like wanting Nick and BSB fans back on his side because he thinks they'll give him money.  It definitely doesn't make up for all of the horrible things he's said, but still, it's satisfying to see him throw the Schumans under the bus.  That's really what I've been waiting for.

I don't know that much about Marissa, but I definitely get the attention-seeking vibe from her too.  All these outside people who have gotten involved in this family feud are attention-seekers.  It's really no one's business but the Carters'.  How did she threaten you??


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on December 23, 2019, 02:01:54 PM
I have no idea who Marissa is.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on December 23, 2019, 04:52:33 PM
Yes he hope Nick give him money and Iím scared of him


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 24, 2019, 02:37:02 PM
I don't trust him either, and I'm sure he has ulterior motives - like wanting Nick and BSB fans back on his side because he thinks they'll give him money.  It definitely doesn't make up for all of the horrible things he's said, but still, it's satisfying to see him throw the Schumans under the bus.  That's really what I've been waiting for.

I don't know that much about Marissa, but I definitely get the attention-seeking vibe from her too.  All these outside people who have gotten involved in this family feud are attention-seekers.  It's really no one's business but the Carters'.  How did she threaten you??

Exactly. That's all I really want from this is for this to backfire on the Schumans.

She threatened Sara from What Happens On The Backstreet the most but all the fanpages got it a bit because she tweeted us saying we needed to spread this (badly written in my opinion) His Side Too blog attacking Melissa. None of us did so she said she'd go to Nick about us, he'd know exactly who we were and we'd end up sorry, that we'll go down with Melissa, etc. Stupid petty bullshit.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 24, 2019, 02:40:44 PM
I have no idea who Marissa is.

Marissa is this chick who went by Molly GoLightly online. She came out when all this shit started in 2017 defending Nick. She's an ex-fling who sold her story twice to tabloids. Fans were like cool, someone in his corner. Then she used to to attack Melissa daily (thus feeding Melissa's victim narrative) and making monetized videos about it. So she made money off this crap because she tricked fans into believing she was Nick's mouthpiece. (She was not.) Even to the point where she bought tickets and lied about them being front row (they were in the front row of the 200 section at Zappos lol) and a "gift" for what she did. She also bought a VIP and in the photo had the Boys do peace signs with her. Which Melissa then twisted to say it's BSB endorsing the harassment.

I'm not surprised she inserted herself with Aaron.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on December 31, 2019, 12:57:15 AM
Happy New Year!

As I was writing a post for my site, I was reflecting on all the amazing things that have happened in the BSB fandom not only this year, but this whole past decade.  The 2010s have been my favorite decade so far in this fandom.  Here's hoping for more amazing things to come in the next ten years!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on December 31, 2019, 07:26:12 PM
Happy New Year!

As I was writing a post for my site, I was reflecting on all the amazing things that have happened in the BSB fandom not only this year, but this whole past decade.  The 2010s have been my favorite decade so far in this fandom.  Here's hoping for more amazing things to come in the next ten years!

Seriously I was thinking about it when I did a post for my site about 2 weeks ago and so much happened. I met BSB for the first time (okay and many more after). The cruises became a thing. VIP became so normal that fans complain if they can't get it. I started traveling for BSB lol, I started traveling period. I met you in person along with many others... I mean fandom wise, it's been an amazing ride.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on December 31, 2019, 08:28:32 PM
Yes!  I had met the Boys twice before 2010, but that did not include Kevin.  It's been fun getting so many different opportunities to not only meet them, but also meet some of you guys and travel places I'd never been before.  I've definitely broadened my horizons this decade!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on January 01, 2020, 10:37:06 AM
Happy new year!

I never meet them, but I wish a lot to be able to meet them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on January 01, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
Happy New Year everyone!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on January 02, 2020, 06:01:54 PM
Happy New Year!

The downside to the rise in BSB's popularity again is that it's now so much more expensive to do VIP and be guaranteed to meet them.  I look forward to the day when that price drops again.  I refuse to spend $500 on something I once paid $150 for (and even that is a lot).  But I guess as long as other people will pay that price, they'll continue to charge it.

Conventions are a fun way to meet them individually for a more affordable price, but that only works for the ones who do conventions... mainly Nick and sometimes AJ and Howie.

I've never had good luck with just running into one of them like girls in fanfics tend to do.  I got in line behind Brian and Leighanne at Starbucks at the Miami airport after one of the cruises and had a conversation with them that way, but that was not random, since we were basically coming from the same place.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on January 02, 2020, 07:42:59 PM
Happy New Year!

The downside to the rise in BSB's popularity again is that it's now so much more expensive to do VIP and be guaranteed to meet them.  I look forward to the day when that price drops again.  I refuse to spend $500 on something I once paid $150 for (and even that is a lot).  But I guess as long as other people will pay that price, they'll continue to charge it.

Conventions are a fun way to meet them individually for a more affordable price, but that only works for the ones who do conventions... mainly Nick and sometimes AJ and Howie.

I've never had good luck with just running into one of them like girls in fanfics tend to do.  I got in line behind Brian and Leighanne at Starbucks at the Miami airport after one of the cruises and had a conversation with them that way, but that was not random, since we were basically coming from the same place.

Happy New Year!

Crazily VIP because it's so normalized BSB are still on the cheap end. Christina Aguilera charges 1,000$ for VIP here in Vegas and that's not even including a ticket! On top of that hers runs late so if say you have a pit ticket, you're screwed out of a good spot. I was in GA in September and the show was amazing but people who had VIP didn't come in to sit till maybe 20 mins before the show was to start. I refused to buy her VIP lol. I love her but I'd say right now BSB are more popular, their residency definitely sold better. So at least theirs isn't that extreme.

Conventions are definitely the best way to go. Or like when they do events. It varies depending on the Boy and how they handle it. I haven't done a Howie event yet but I've done two of Nick's and one of AJ's and wildly AJ's had worse fans who kept following him and mobbing him.

I live in the same damn city as Nick Carter and I can't run into him so, I feel you LOL. My friend ran into Lauren while Nick was in Germany and she doesn't live far from me, so apparently it's more possible than I thought despite him living on the opposite end of town from me. I'm just unlucky lol. Or like in 2014 when apparently Brian walked RIGHT by where I was sitting waiting for your guys' flights but I was so tired and zoned out I didn't notice.

I'd be cool with a cruise though I cringe at how high the demand would be right now due to the resurgence.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on January 06, 2020, 08:26:52 PM
I need to say Nick talking about how he's finally happy is NOT making it easy to write a fic where I make him suffer! LOL.

But it's very cute.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on January 09, 2020, 10:02:34 PM
LOL I know!  I'm so happy for him, and I love all the cute pics and videos he posts of his family, but I totally get what you mean.  I struggle with that too.  I'm really glad I'm done with A Heart That Isn't Mine.

I've been rereading Broken for the blog I've been doing on my site, and every time Nick thinks about how he might like to have a family of his own someday but doesn't think it will happen, it makes me so happy for him now.  He's sure come a long way!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on January 12, 2020, 06:50:30 PM
Awwww right? I remember wondering if Nick would ever find like that happiness and inner peace years ago. It's good to see how much he's gained in...hell, just the last decade.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on January 13, 2020, 06:05:55 PM
I know!  I remember him always saying in interviews how he didn't believe in marriage, didn't think he wanted kids because he didn't know if he'd be a good dad, etc., and look at him now!  He's such a great dad!  Thank god for Lauren coming into his life.  I know he had already started to get his shit together when he met her, but I really credit her for helping keep him on track and making him so happy.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 26, 2020, 07:08:12 PM
I started posting some of my stories on Archive of Our Own during my downtime in quarantine.  I haven't really browsed around there much before now, and let me just say, it's interesting to see how different other archives are, even within the same fandom.

My first impressions...
- The majority of stories there seem to be slash.
- Most of the stories are one-shots, not nearly as many novels as AC.
- Not a lot of suspense, horror, or medical drama.
- Way more crossovers with other fandoms and celebrities.

It's making me miss the good old days on AC... and also reminding me what a picky reader I am LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 26, 2020, 10:54:20 PM
Aww. Maybe a few of us should pick one of our stories to post over there lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 27, 2020, 08:26:19 AM
I know a few people from here already post there, like Cinzia, Tracy, Rose, and the author of the Jr. BSB series, but they could definitely use some stories like yours and Steph's.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on April 03, 2020, 05:01:06 AM
A friend of mine that I've known online for years (used to be a BSB fan, isn't anymore though) posts there in other fandoms. She's the one who got me to post there a couple years ago. It's definitely a very different corner of the fanfic world. I do like how their layout is set up for feedback though.

Anytime I post my fics, I eventually get a decent amount of feedback compared to other fics posted there and I think it's because they're not slash so therefore "omg something different" LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 03, 2020, 09:17:21 AM
That's what I'm hoping, that people will eventually come across our stuff and appreciate it for being something different from all the slash and smut on there. I do really like their setup; it's easy to use and has some cool features. I like the kudos and the fact that you can reply to replies to comments. It's nice to be able to interact with readers right on the site again; I miss that about AC with reviews turned off.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on April 07, 2020, 08:03:06 AM
What is Archive of our Own? Is it a site to put your stories?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 07, 2020, 12:31:38 PM
Yeah, it's a fanfic site, similar to AC and fanfiction.net .  It's got all kinds of fandoms, not just BSB, but it seems to be the most popular place to post BSB fanfics these days... which isn't saying much because it seems like the fanfic corner of the fandom has really died down the past few years.  But at least it's more active than AC is anymore, as far as stories being updated.

https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Backstreet%20Boys/works


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 07, 2020, 01:38:28 PM
I have two fanfics ready to post, but my dad use the computer to work at home I donít know when Iím gonna be able to post them


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 07, 2020, 04:21:02 PM
I hope you can post them soon!  What's your username on AO3?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 07, 2020, 05:44:57 PM
Yes me too! Is shane20


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 07, 2020, 08:33:54 PM
Subscribed!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 07, 2020, 08:58:35 PM
Thanks! I didnít post anything for a very long time and I donít know when Iím gonna be able to do it


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on April 08, 2020, 06:56:36 AM
I'll have a look at it, I created an account but not done anything with it yet.  Username StephJane29


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 08, 2020, 03:51:56 PM
Subscribed to you too!  LOL I apparently registered my account there in 2015; it only took me 5 years to get around to actually posting stories there.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 08, 2020, 04:05:13 PM
Iím gonna follow both of you as soon as can go on the family computer


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on April 09, 2020, 01:56:39 AM
I'll have a look at it, I created an account but not done anything with it yet.  Username StephJane29

I'm ZombieRainbowR ose over there :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 09, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
Itís official the center Bell in Montreal gonna be close for the next two years, so no bsb in september


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on April 09, 2020, 04:14:46 PM
I have two fanfic on AC. I'm cynni the same I have here


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 09, 2020, 05:52:24 PM
Subscribed to you too, Cynni!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 19, 2020, 02:19:01 PM
Hey Mare, I think someone accidentally locked the quarantine thread.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on April 25, 2020, 04:44:55 PM
Someone erase my account on absolute chaos and my my two fanfic :(


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 25, 2020, 05:39:39 PM
Someone erase my account on absolute chaos and my my two fanfic :(

Okay, that is weird because you're the second person today I've seen report this.  My friend Tami lost her account too.  I asked Mare and Julilly if they knew anything about that, and Mare said she didn't delete Tami's account and doubted that Julilly did either.  What's going on??


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on April 25, 2020, 05:53:32 PM
what can i do then ? should i re-register or wait for my old account to re-appear ?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 25, 2020, 06:09:32 PM
I'm not sure.  Mare didn't know anything about what happened to Tami's, so you might want to just re-register and re-post.  I hope you have your stories saved somewhere else.  Everyone should make sure they have their stories backed up somewhere just in case.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 25, 2020, 06:12:02 PM
Maybe someone hack the website and delete people


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on April 25, 2020, 06:28:24 PM
I think off that to.Someone hack and delete people account... :( I post my two fics and half  an hour my fic is gone again, my favorite fics desapear. I dont know what going on


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: julilly on April 25, 2020, 08:06:26 PM
The efiction platform has been defunct since 2013. The code is not stable, so this doesn't really surprise me. Everyone should ensure they have their work backed up, posted to AO3... something, because the efiction code could crash tomorrow, we just don't know.

AC averages about 5,000-10,000 spam accounts signed up per month and it's massively taxing on the database. Even the efiction creators had to shut down their support forum because of the spam and they don't currently have a coder working on creating a new version so there may never be a solution for it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 25, 2020, 08:27:37 PM
Thanks Iím gonna save my work before the website crash for good


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 25, 2020, 09:28:02 PM
I think Iíll be making an account over there as well to post some of the stories I donít want to lose. Once I know a username Iíll pass it along


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 25, 2020, 10:45:18 PM
That is sad about the spammers and the lack of support from eFiction being obsolete.  Posting to AO3 is a good idea.  Their platform is user friendly and seems to be kept up to date.  I'll continue to post my stories to AC too, but if my account were to get deleted, I'd be done... too many stories and too much history to start over and repost everything.  I'm so sorry to those this has happened to.

I would also recommend downloading your favorite stories by other authors on AC, especially the ones that aren't posted on any other websites.  AC makes this pretty easy to do.  On the story, click on the printer icon at the top under the title and author's name, and it will pull up a new tab with the whole story.  You don't have to actually print it; you can just right click on that page and save it as a webpage.  There is also an option to save stories as Word documents, but that didn't work for me - I just tried one, and it only gave me a blank document.  Still, much easier than my old-school method of copying and pasting every chapter of a story into a Word document.  Speaking from experience, though, I'm really glad I did that with many of my favorites back in the day because some of them have since disappeared from the internet.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 26, 2020, 02:13:53 AM
Iím sorry this is happening to people as well.

I can only save things from my phone. So itís the old fashioned way for me I guess lol

Itís weird seeing a line to get approval to sign up for that site. Iíve never seen that before.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 26, 2020, 09:03:26 AM
Iím sorry this is happening to people as well.

I can only save things from my phone. So itís the old fashioned way for me I guess lol

Itís weird seeing a line to get approval to sign up for that site. Iíve never seen that before.

I forgot you had to have an invitation to join AO3!  I joined it back in 2015 just to have an account established.  I just checked, and it doesn't look like they're still allowing users to send out invitations.  There's a list you have to join.  No idea how long it takes to get approved.  I guess this is how they prevent spammers joining?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 26, 2020, 09:28:23 AM
I forgot you had to have an invitation to join AO3!  I joined it back in 2015 just to have an account established.  I just checked, and it doesn't look like they're still allowing users to send out invitations.  There's a list you have to join.  No idea how long it takes to get approved.  I guess this is how they prevent spammers joining?

Itís actually a great idea if thatís why they do it. I got my invite this morning and already started posting. Iím egypt18015. Mare was already taken 😕 I am starting with Why aid do it all Again. The only weird thing is the random ? That comes up where Ď should be.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 26, 2020, 12:18:59 PM
I follow all of you!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on April 26, 2020, 02:12:37 PM
me too


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 26, 2020, 03:06:27 PM
Itís actually a great idea if thatís why they do it. I got my invite this morning and already started posting. Iím egypt18015. Mare was already taken 😕 I am starting with Why aid do it all Again. The only weird thing is the random ? That comes up where Ď should be.

Oh good! I'm glad it doesn't take long to get the invitation.  I subscribed to you.

The [?] thing is what I was complaining about here on AC a couple years ago!  I think it has to do with stupid Microsoft Word formatting.  It happens with certain punctuation marks like quotation marks, hyphens, and ellipses that Word likes to stylize, and these fanfic sites don't seem to recognize it.  If I were to try copying and pasting my old stories that I originally typed in Word straight from AC to AO3, they would be full of those symbols.  I've had better luck copying from my Wordpress site.

Another option is to open the story in Word and do a Find and Replace for the following:
- quotation marks
- apostrophes
- hyphens/dashes
- ellipses (...)
You have to find an example of each punctuation mark within the Word doc, copy it, paste it into the Find box, and then just type the regular punctuation mark (don't paste) into the Replace box and click Replace All.  It will fix them that way.

A third option is to copy the story in Word and paste it into Notepad or any kind of bare bones editor that will remove all the formatting and convert it to plain text.  The only downside to this method is that it will remove your italics, bold text, and any text formatting like that, and you'll have to go back and code that by hand if you want it.

It's a huge pain in the ass.  I refuse to use Word anymore; I've gone to Google Docs and have no regrets.  When I update my site, I still paste chapters into Wordpress as plain text and do italics by hand, then copy/paste to AC and AO3 from there because I'm paranoid about these symbols showing up again.  I think I fixed most of my stories that had them on AC, but if try editing chapters of old stories to fix typos or whatever, they come back on AC.  So annoying!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 26, 2020, 03:14:40 PM
How do you follow people on there? I havenít really searched much.

I only have my phone to use when posting so the ? Will have to stay there. Iím sure no one will really read them anywhere so as long as the stories are saved, thatís all I really care about. That is annoying though!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 26, 2020, 03:30:47 PM
Under the name you have a button subscribe you click on it to follow the person


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 26, 2020, 04:00:03 PM
Thank you! I think I followed all of you.

As Iím posting this I realized how anal I was about posting once a week like clockwork every Monday.

I started posting WHy Iíd... in 2005. That story is 15 years old! Lol weird!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 26, 2020, 04:07:29 PM
Youíre very welcome!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 27, 2020, 12:37:27 AM
Thank you! I think I followed all of you.

As Iím posting this I realized how anal I was about posting once a week like clockwork every Monday.

I started posting WHy Iíd... in 2005. That story is 15 years old! Lol weird!!

It's crazy how time flies!  My site's 20th anniversary is on Wednesday.  I can't believe I've been doing this for two decades LOL. That means we've known each other almost 20 years too, Mare... 18, I think, technically.  You always were good about updating regularly.  That's such a rare thing, considering how many writers are notorious for starting stories and then disappearing without finishing them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 27, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
It's crazy how time flies!  My site's 20th anniversary is on Wednesday.  I can't believe I've been doing this for two decades LOL. That means we've known each other almost 20 years too, Mare... 18, I think, technically.  You always were good about updating regularly.  That's such a rare thing, considering how many writers are notorious for starting stories and then disappearing without finishing them.

20 years? Wow what an accomplishment . I bet your site is the longest running solo fanfic site for bsb fanfics! Congrats!

Itís odd to think weíve known each other for that long. I went onto your site the other day to see what stories you were hosting of mine and just reading some of those titles from your other hosted stories made me nostalgic. Kat and Amy, Eboni, Susan etc... I wish we could do a little BSB fanfic con via zoom and invite some of those oldies into it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on April 27, 2020, 08:58:14 PM
This is so sad and depressing. I'm going to go through and save some faves. I have everything from here backed up already that I've posted but not stories I like rereading.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 28, 2020, 12:20:37 AM
20 years? Wow what an accomplishment . I bet your site is the longest running solo fanfic site for bsb fanfics! Congrats!

Itís odd to think weíve known each other for that long. I went onto your site the other day to see what stories you were hosting of mine and just reading some of those titles from your other hosted stories made me nostalgic. Kat and Amy, Eboni, Susan etc... I wish we could do a little BSB fanfic con via zoom and invite some of those oldies into it.

Thanks!  It's not the oldest site that's still online, but it well may be the longest-running site that's actually still running and updated.  I can't think of any others that would have it beat there.  Hey, I'll take it!

Aww, I love the idea of a virtual fanfic con!  In this day and age, that would actually be pretty doable.  It would just take someone to organize it... someone like our fanfic Oprah! ;)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on April 28, 2020, 03:09:16 AM
Throwing it out there, if we wanted to do it...house party is probably the best option. I just created an account there and it was easy enough.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 28, 2020, 02:13:18 PM
Iíve never heard of that app before. As long as itís something I can use on my phone. I think you can do zoom on the phone.

Is this something people would be interested in? Thereís no way I could track down a lot of the oldies but it would be fun getting all together in a chat to talk old school fanfics and more.

Who would be interested?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 28, 2020, 03:10:07 PM
Sure I would like that!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 28, 2020, 03:31:03 PM
I would do it.  I know you can do Zoom on a phone, not sure about House Party.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on April 28, 2020, 04:23:21 PM
Sure I'm interest


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 28, 2020, 05:03:11 PM
My sister mentioned web x as a possibility? I can use her work computer if we do it on a weekend.



 


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 01, 2020, 09:17:35 AM
Oh god, I'm going to have to dig out my old laptop if it works and save all my stories.  I did save them to an external hard drive with a password protection but can't remember the password, which is so annoying as I have all my stories on there.

Suppose I could connect the hard drive to my work laptop and save them that way, if the other laptop is no good.

How awful to lose everything like that.  It's happened to me already with all my old Take That stories I wrote (they are on that hard drive lol)

I've created an account on that other site but that's it so far, not had the chance to really look into it.

I signed up for Zoom too as thought my family might use it during lockdown but so far none of them have used it lol.

Hope everyone is ok and managing to avoid the dreaded Corona :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 01, 2020, 01:12:54 PM
I haven't heard of Web X.  Google Meet/Hangouts would be another option.  I've used that a lot lately for work for virtual staff meetings and class hangouts with my students.

I've been MIA this week working on a project for work, but I'm back now!  No sign of the 'rona here.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 01, 2020, 03:02:12 PM
Iíve been posting a story a day but all those same symbols are starting to get to me. I was excited at first because when I started posting Separate Ways, the first 10 chapters were symbol free then when I got to chapter 11 they were there again. I fixed it manually as I went along but itís taking me forever. Every single quotation mark and Ď comes out as a black question mark. All my stories are so dialogue centric Iím in hell. Not sure if Iíll keep fixing them or not. Iíve done a handful of chapters for The Last Thing Ever Lost and now Separate Ways.

Weíre all fine here although my cat likes to lick everything.

My sister uses web x for work. I know Mersey uses it too. Thatís about as much as I know about that. Lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 01, 2020, 05:21:26 PM
I know, it's a pain in the ass.  I think I fixed all mine on AC except Broken and By My Side, which are so long they overwhelm me.  I'd have to get really bored to take the time to fix those.  I wish had a good solution to do it quickly and easily, but I've got nothing, especially if you're doing it from a phone.  I can't imagine. :(


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 01, 2020, 08:31:20 PM
Omg itís mega annoying! I was even looking at the code trying to see the difference between chapters that cane out normal versus the weird ? Ones, hoping maybe if I changed one word somewhere it would make a difference but, no luck. Iím going to see how long I can keep it up before I decide to say screw this lol and just keep it looking like it is.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 01, 2020, 08:37:13 PM
As a side note, as I was posting my latest Separate Ways chapter, my authorís note said I was having phone problems and couldnít get online to update on time. Lol remember the days of dial up? Thatís how old this story is.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 02, 2020, 12:09:57 AM
Those symbols are super annoying! When I first started reposting on AO3 I copy/pasted from my wordpress which saved me a lot of headache. Also someone joined in on writing Nick deaths on AO3 which I love lmao. Yay dead Nick!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 02, 2020, 01:03:00 AM
As a side note, as I was posting my latest Separate Ways chapter, my authorís note said I was having phone problems and couldnít get online to update on time. Lol remember the days of dial up? Thatís how old this story is.

Haha, yes!  I remember my mom always getting mad at me for tying up the phone line when I was wanting to be online for hours reading fanfic and chatting with my friends.  I don't think I had fast internet until I went to college in 2003, so most of Broken and everything before it was posted via dial-up.  I also didn't have an internet connection in my bedroom for at least the first year I was doing this.  I did have a computer, so I would type chapters on that and then save them to a floppy disk to put in my mom's computer in the den to do my updating.  That's also why I have so many old-school fanfics saved, because I would have to do the opposite with those - copy/paste them into a Word doc on my mom's computer, save them to a floppy, and take them to my own computer to read offline in my room.  That's after I got in trouble for printing one that turned out to be 50 pages long - which seems like nothing nowadays, but my mom thought I was wasting printer paper LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 02, 2020, 01:06:03 AM
Those symbols are super annoying! When I first started reposting on AO3 I copy/pasted from my wordpress which saved me a lot of headache. Also someone joined in on writing Nick deaths on AO3 which I love lmao. Yay dead Nick!

That's Tami, whose account here got deleted.  She had posted one of those on 1000 Ways here, but it got deleted when her account did.  We should probably post that and her new one so our count stays accurate in case anyone else wants to write one.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 02, 2020, 02:46:01 AM
Ooh I didn't know that.

My AC notifications don't work anymore. I didn't know 1000 Ways got updated here.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 02, 2020, 11:12:16 AM
That was back in September.  I don't think she felt like re-registering to re-post #71 and her new death here.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 03, 2020, 01:38:53 AM
Which is understandable LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 05, 2020, 12:28:38 AM
Did you see AJ last interview?! Iím still in shock about what he said!

https://youtu.be/KvQbyY3ZXc4


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 05, 2020, 02:11:51 AM
I'm so behind.

Also I'm not going to lie, all this clarification for MeToo that "believe women" shouldn't be blindly believed without critical thinking now that Biden has a sketchy allegation is so annoying. I literally got called a traitor to my gender in 2017 for saying that as why I believed Nick. I'm glad we're finally going, hey shitty people will lie for an agenda - but it's irritating it took most people two years to get there.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 05, 2020, 02:43:48 AM
What did AJ say? I clicked on the interview but when I saw it was Kris K and 25 minutes, I clicked off.  Lol was it me too related or are the last two posts not connected?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 05, 2020, 05:49:29 AM
Not related. I just keep seeing the articles about MeToo and it triggered a rant lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 05, 2020, 10:29:34 AM
He is sober only for five months, he relapse.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 05, 2020, 11:12:29 AM
He is sober only for five months, he relapse.
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Oh, thatís sad but at least heís back on the road to recovery. Thanks for the update!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 05, 2020, 11:12:56 AM
Not related. I just keep seeing the articles about MeToo and it triggered a rant lol.
Gotcha lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 05, 2020, 02:33:40 PM
I think AJ's fallen off the wagon a lot of times over the years.  It doesn't bother me as long as he gets back on and doesn't let it affect his family or career.  He may have just had a drink over the holidays.  No judgment here.

As far as MeToo goes, it's interesting how people manipulate that to fit their agenda.  Though why it would ever be a BSB fan's agenda to want to ruin one of the Boys' reputation and career, I will never understand.  If you're a Melissa Schuman fan, sure, you're going to believe Melissa.  But I saw people I considered hardcore Nick fans choose to blindly believe her and turn their backs on him without any proof of wrongdoing besides her word over his, and that is sad.  I'm not saying we should all blindly support Nick either, but at least give him the benefit of the doubt.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 05, 2020, 10:26:32 PM
Or at least respect that some support Nick without the attacks. People can believe what they believe but I'm sick of all the vitriol. Towards Nick, other BSBs for not abandoning him, towards fans. I simply don't understand it. And seeing some who gave it suddenly walk it back because of Biden...yeah, annoying lol.

And yeah AJ definitely fell off the wagon several times. When I ran into him at PH back in April last year he'd been coming from the direction of Heart Bar. He keeps trying and he's not letting it affect his family or career so yeah, no judgement. Sobriety is never 100%. The point is the journey and getting back on the horse.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 05, 2020, 10:40:22 PM
Yeah... it was sad to see friendships ruined over it.  At the very least, we should be able to agree to disagree, not attack each other for having a difference of opinion and being on opposite sides.  We definitely got to see people's true colors, and for some, they were pretty ugly.

If AJ could learn to drink in moderation, more power to him.  I don't see anything wrong with that.  Apparently he can't, or he wouldn't be counting months sober again.  I'm sure it's not easy.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 06, 2020, 01:58:20 AM
Agreed on everything.

On another note I got to chill all day today and it was so nice. I should've written but I needed a lazy day.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 06, 2020, 03:51:27 AM
Can't be easy for AJ, but as long as he keeps trying and it doesn't cause family or work problems then that's good.  I can't imagine how hard it must be to not have an 'off switch'


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 06, 2020, 07:33:54 AM
Julie/Rose I would like to post my 1000 Way deaths on AO3 but not sure what to do, I'm new to that site and a bit clueless how it works lol. 

I've posted one of my short challenge stories on there just to see how it works and whether I posted right, but not sure how to add to the 1000 Ways stories. 

My name on there is StephJane29


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 06, 2020, 10:10:07 AM
I got a notification you posted Steph. I know what you mean, AO3 seems really confusing, probably because there are so many fandoms etc... I still have no clue how to browse through stories. The first page totally confuses me lol Iíve been posting a story a day and I know they must be posting somewhere because Julie gave me kudos. At first I misread them as cooties lmao


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2020, 10:06:07 PM
Agreed on everything.

On another note I got to chill all day today and it was so nice. I should've written but I needed a lazy day.

Lazy days are good!  You definitely need those.  I can't usually write when I'm physically and mentally drained, as I'm sure you are.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2020, 10:09:44 PM
Julie/Rose I would like to post my 1000 Way deaths on AO3 but not sure what to do, I'm new to that site and a bit clueless how it works lol. 

I've posted one of my short challenge stories on there just to see how it works and whether I posted right, but not sure how to add to the 1000 Ways stories. 

My name on there is StephJane29

Post them like you would any other story, but on the same page where you add the rating, fandoms, etc., under the Associations section, where it says "Post to Collection/Challenges," type "1000 Ways to Kill Nick Carter," and our collection should come up.  (Or "Revenge of the Slaughtered" if you're posting your kills.)  I have it set that one of us has to approve new entries to the collection, so it won't appear in the collection until we do that.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2020, 10:11:55 PM
I got a notification you posted Steph. I know what you mean, AO3 seems really confusing, probably because there are so many fandoms etc... I still have no clue how to browse through stories. The first page totally confuses me lol Iíve been posting a story a day and I know they must be posting somewhere because Julie gave me kudos. At first I misread them as cooties lmao

I just made my bookmark for AO3 the Backstreet Boys category instead of the main page, since I don't read or write in any other fandoms. https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Backstreet%20Boys/works  From there, you can use the Sort and Filter feature on the side to look for specific kinds of stories or just scroll through them and browse that way.  This might look different on the mobile version if you're using your phone.

Otherwise, you can find the BSB section by going to Fandoms and then Music & Bands.  They're all listed in alphabetical order.  There are a TON of fandoms, and it's not as easy to navigate as I remember fanfiction.net being.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 07, 2020, 02:37:11 AM
You are right, it's not easy to navigate it and will take some getting used to.  I posted one of my Nick deaths but don't think I did it right lol, I'll have a look when I can and see if I can fix it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 07, 2020, 09:18:32 AM
Thatís a good idea. I gave my dashboard bookmarked but maybe once Iím done posting Iíll do that. I have searched BSB fandom but itís still kind of confusing. I think itís all the symbols and warnings etc... lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2020, 09:23:03 PM
You are right, it's not easy to navigate it and will take some getting used to.  I posted one of my Nick deaths but don't think I did it right lol, I'll have a look when I can and see if I can fix it.

I just approved three of them you submitted to the collection.  You did it right! :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2020, 09:24:38 PM
Thatís a good idea. I gave my dashboard bookmarked but maybe once Iím done posting Iíll do that. I have searched BSB fandom but itís still kind of confusing. I think itís all the symbols and warnings etc... lol

There are SO many warnings and tags!  I don't want to tag everything to the point of giving away spoilers, but I want to tag enough that people who like the type of stories I write can find them.  I definitely prefer AC providing limited choices for genres and whatnot in that respect.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 08, 2020, 01:59:01 AM
And with all the things you have to fill out, thereís really nowhere you can actually put the genre like this is a suspense lol so Iíve just been putting it in an authors note at the beginning of the story.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on May 09, 2020, 01:56:13 PM
The thing I like about ao3 is the flexibility with the tags actually! I don't feel like I have to box something into one genre. But my tags are always a mess lol. I have an account over there but I only post 1D fic on it. I haven't even touched it in a couple years. The glory days of 1D fic seem to be over -- all my fav authors moved onto the Marvel Cinematic Universe for the most part. Sad but understandable given that the 5 of them rarely interact publicly anymore. There still seems to be a lot of het fic but I have no interest in that.

I think a03 is meant to function more as a true archive rather than a community if that makes sense? I have never used their search function to find anything there. I always found 1D fic through it being linked on tumblr to be honest. And that's how I always "marketed" my 1D fic as well. So I suppose utilizing twitter to market updates about BSB fic would be the way to go there?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 09, 2020, 05:20:18 PM
Yeah I agree, it definitely seems more like an archive. Hence the name I guess lol

My goal is just to get as much stuff over there as I can before AC implodes in on itself. If people want to read it as I go, excellent. If not, thatís fine too. It is interesting to see all the different fandoms on there.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 09, 2020, 11:10:08 PM
And with all the things you have to fill out, thereís really nowhere you can actually put the genre like this is a suspense lol so Iíve just been putting it in an authors note at the beginning of the story.

I put the genres as tags.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 10, 2020, 12:17:24 AM
I put the genres as tags.

I do that too.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 10, 2020, 03:05:32 AM
I just did that the one Iím posting now


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 10, 2020, 03:35:19 AM
You know I swear once this is all over and things go to a new normal (cause I don't know if we'll go back to the old normal), and cruises become a thing again? I am booking the next BSB cruise. I don't care where it goes. This lockdown has strangely had me missing the cruise and all the fun times had on it. I mean BSB Cruises have me in my full blown crazy surrounded by my favorite people LOL. It also doesn't help there were a bunch of throwback tweets on Twitter about the 2018 one LOL.

AJ is also saying (and mind you it's AJ so...grain of salt) Vegas residency again by 2023. So that should be fun. I hope they change up the song setlist though, throw some more deep cuts on it like they did for the DNA Tour.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 10, 2020, 10:07:01 PM
I miss the cruises too!  I have money saved up to where I can afford to go on the next one.  I'll go as long as I can make it work with my work schedule.  These four-day cruises are harder to swing than the three-day ones they used to do.

Of course I'm down for another Vegas residency too.  I also hope they change things up.  I would love to see the more recent albums represented (especially IAWLT) along with the classic singles, and I love when they bring back random old songs. More of that!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 11, 2020, 04:36:56 AM
Wish I had the money to do a cruise or Vegas show, bit impossible from where I am lol.  But I like to hear all about it. 

I loved the DNA tour, it was the last concert I went to last year.  Don't know when things like concerts will be able to go ahead again.  I was due to see Westlife next month but obviously that's cancelled now.  I've also got theatre tickets for Phantom of The Opera for December, it's a show I've wanted to see for years, but not sure if that will go ahead either.

Oh well, what will be will be I suppose.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on May 11, 2020, 08:37:57 AM
My parents have had deposits on cruises for the last three years and haven't been able to go on any lol. 2019 my sister was pregnant and due right in the middle of the cruise, 2020 I was pregnant and also due right in the middle of the cruise, and now 2021 is likely not gonna happen (and even if it does... yeah no unless there's a vaccine)

We have joked that my dad caused the pandemic by booking cruise tickets because clearly the world does not want him to go on a cruise lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 11, 2020, 09:19:17 AM
Oh how awful for them, yes it seems they are not destined to go on a cruise at all lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 14, 2020, 04:49:37 AM
I miss the cruises too!  I have money saved up to where I can afford to go on the next one.  I'll go as long as I can make it work with my work schedule.  These four-day cruises are harder to swing than the three-day ones they used to do.

Of course I'm down for another Vegas residency too.  I also hope they change things up.  I would love to see the more recent albums represented (especially IAWLT) along with the classic singles, and I love when they bring back random old songs. More of that!

Literally my favorite thing about DNA has been seeing songs I never got to see live.

On a side note Hamilton is going to be on Disney Plus so yay! LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 14, 2020, 05:53:09 AM
I am so excited about Hamilton except that now I have to buy it to see it. I am tired of all these streaming networks. If you are already paying for cable and have Disney, CBS, HBO etc... you shouldnít have to pay for their stupid streaming networks.

Going on a cruise used to be on my list of things I want to do before I die but Iím kind of changing my mind on that since going on a cruise might make me die. This year sucks lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 14, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
Lol this year is definitely garbage.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 14, 2020, 11:19:04 PM
Literally my favorite thing about DNA has been seeing songs I never got to see live.

On a side note Hamilton is going to be on Disney Plus so yay! LOL.

I saw that!  I will watch.  Maybe it will start a trend of showing Broadway musicals.  I get that it's better to see the real thing live, but not everyone has that opportunity because of cost or where they live.  Or maybe they have seen the real thing, but would like to watch it again.  I've seen The Book of Mormon four times and have a semi-decent video of the original production when it was still in previews, and I would still happily watch it if it streamed or aired anywhere.  I haven't seen Hamilton yet, so that is exciting.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 14, 2020, 11:26:00 PM
I am so excited about Hamilton except that now I have to buy it to see it. I am tired of all these streaming networks. If you are already paying for cable and have Disney, CBS, HBO etc... you shouldnít have to pay for their stupid streaming networks.

Going on a cruise used to be on my list of things I want to do before I die but Iím kind of changing my mind on that since going on a cruise might make me die. This year sucks lol

Just do a free trial of Disney+ in July and cancel at the end of the month before they charge you.  That's what I usually do.  The Mandalorian is only 8 episodes, so you could easily watch that during a trial month too.

It annoys me that regular network TV channels like CBS and NBC have streaming services you have to pay for.  I found out I have free access to NBC's new Peacock thing through my cable, but from what I've seen of it, it's not really that great.  I'm guessing they'll eventually pull their old shows that are on Hulu, like ER, and move them over to Peacock, but until they do, there's not that much on it that I would actually want to watch.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 15, 2020, 05:34:43 AM
Yeah, thatís what Iíll most likely do. It still sucks though! Donít even get me started in CBS all access! Those 5 simple networks should NOT be charging people for anything! Theyíre so greedy!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 15, 2020, 09:19:02 AM
We cancelled our TV package as we were paying too much.  Now we just watch the free to air TV channels, but we have Netflix, Amazon Prime (free trial) and Holly pays for Disney+ so we can all watch that too.  Not watched anything on there yet as too much other stuff to watch lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 15, 2020, 09:53:09 PM
Cable is so expensive!  I was considering cancelling mine, but I negotiated more channels plus a home security system for $30 less than I was paying before, so I'm keeping it for now.  I do like my DVR and the ability to channel surf.  With as much time as I typically spend watching TV, it's worth it.  I usually have Amazon and Netflix, but I bit the bullet and got Hulu again to get me through quarantine.  My sister lets me use her family's Disney+ account, which is nice because I probably wouldn't pay for that one on my own.  The Mandalorian on Disney is great!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 15, 2020, 09:56:46 PM
So I got an email saying I had a new AC review for the Broken series this morning!  I was like, "What?!  Are reviews back??"  They do not appear to be, but somehow someone was able to leave this review: http://absolutechaos.net/reviews.php?type=SE&item=16  I think it's probably spam, since there is a suspicious link I refuse to click on.  But how were they able to leave a review??  Weird.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 15, 2020, 10:01:07 PM
Ugh, I just went on AO3 to update, and the first story I saw is a Brian/Baylee slash!  It has the tag "Parent/Child incest"!  Slash is one thing, but that is just sick and wrong.  Ew!  I want to wash my eyes out with bleach now!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 16, 2020, 07:15:15 AM
So I got an email saying I had a new AC review for the Broken series this morning!  I was like, "What?!  Are reviews back??"  They do not appear to be, but somehow someone was able to leave this review: http://absolutechaos.net/reviews.php?type=SE&item=16  I think it's probably spam, since there is a suspicious link I refuse to click on.  But how were they able to leave a review??  Weird.

Wow! That is pretty weird and it reads like a normal review. Iím not sure how that was possible.  Let us know if it happens again. 🤔


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 16, 2020, 07:15:52 AM
Ugh, I just went on AO3 to update, and the first story I saw is a Brian/Baylee slash!  It has the tag "Parent/Child incest"!  Slash is one thing, but that is just sick and wrong.  Ew!  I want to wash my eyes out with bleach now!

😳 please tell me there were zero kudos and reads! That is just gross and completely wrong.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 16, 2020, 07:27:47 AM
There is an episode of winners at war - the jury goes to the ponderosa on YouTube which Iím looking forward to watching and yes, thereís no reason why they canít do a reunion on YouTube or something. Iím still baffled as to why they left it off. They were all there. They could have easily just given them another hour, itís not like CBS had anything else going on. If it was football they wouldíve done it.

I just remember for the first few years they always included at least one disgusting eating challenge where they had to eat bugs and other gross stuff like boiled tarantulas. Iím glad they donít do those anymore. Wonder why they stopped. Iíd love to go back and watch some of those seasons that my favs were on.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 16, 2020, 12:04:17 PM
You are bully! Talking about an author behind her or his back!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: cynni on May 16, 2020, 12:52:37 PM
You are bully! Talking about an author behind her or his back!

I'm agreed with you


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 16, 2020, 12:55:46 PM
Wow! That is pretty weird and it reads like a normal review. Iím not sure how that was possible.  Let us know if it happens again. 🤔

Yeah, it was less spammy than usual.  It almost passed for a real review, except it was a generic "Good chapter" review left for an entire series, which doesn't make sense.  Weird.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 16, 2020, 01:05:46 PM
You are bully! Talking about an author behind her or his back!

You might want to look up the definition of bully.  Here, I did it for you: "a person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable."  I do not, nor have I habitually sought to harm or intimidate anyone, vulnerable or otherwise.

I also didn't say anything about a specific author behind her back.  I merely stated my opinion about a fanfic I came across, which was on topic with what this forum is about - discussing fanfic.  If I had left the author a flaming review telling her how gross I think her subject matter is, that would be a different story.  I don't believe in leaving negative reviews just because I don't like what someone is writing about.  If I don't like something, I just don't read it.  That author doesn't need to know and likely doesn't care that I think her story is sick and wrong.  She's entitled to write and post whatever she wants, just as I'm entitled to express my opinion about it.

Perhaps I should have phrased it as a question to invite discussion:  Do you think it's appropriate to write about a Backstreet Boy having sex with his child?  Discuss.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 17, 2020, 05:29:54 AM
Do you think it's appropriate to write about a Backstreet Boy having sex with his child?  Discuss.


No!

Look... I get that people enjoy reading and writing fetish type fiction. I also get there are some people that enjoy a little incest. I mean Game of Thrones devoted an entire storyline to that and look how popular that was! But when you are dealing with kids, itís really a different ballgame. Especially if itís written as a sexual desire. Itís called child pornography. I donít care if itís visual (like a video which is also highly illegal) or a graphic story depicting a child being abused, itís not acceptable in any way, shape or form! Period!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 17, 2020, 01:27:47 PM
Do I think that type of story is ok?  No way!  I think it's totally disgusting and makes me sick.

I agree with Mare and Julie.  I also don't think its bullying.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on May 17, 2020, 02:03:26 PM
A major problem with a03 is that they arenít moderated which means things like child porn are allowed on the archive. It shouldnít be. I guess if you like incest good for you but letís make sure everyone is of legal age at a minimum please lol like why is this hard


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 17, 2020, 02:12:48 PM
Child porn has no place anywhere, I agree, the characters should be legal age at least. 


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 17, 2020, 11:08:01 PM
I think it's different when it's real person fanfic, too.  I know there are a lot of Harry Potter fanfics featuring relationships between adults and children (usually professors and students, like Snape/Harry), and I find that offputting too, but at least those are just fictional characters.  Same with Mare's Game of Thrones example.  But writing about a real person being raped by his father, whom you're supposedly a fan of, seems like crossing a line.  I didn't even think about the fact that it's also illegal, but you guys are right - since Baylee is a real person and a minor, it probably could be considered child porn.

I would love to hear from those with differing viewpoints.  Mistral and Cynni, what is it about this type of storyline that appeals to you?  I'm not judging, just trying to understand.  I respect that everyone has different tastes when it comes to reading and writing, which is one of the things I like about fanfic - there's something out there for everyone.  This is just something I had never seen before in our fandom, although apparently it's a thing on AO3.  Cinzia told me there are stories like this about Nick and Odin and Kevin and his kids, too.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 18, 2020, 03:25:43 AM
I think it's different when it's real person fanfic, too.  I know there are a lot of Harry Potter fanfics featuring relationships between adults and children (usually professors and students, like Snape/Harry), and I find that offputting too, but at least those are just fictional characters.  Same with Mare's Game of Thrones example.  But writing about a real person being raped by his father, whom you're supposedly a fan of, seems like crossing a line.  I didn't even think about the fact that it's also illegal, but you guys are right - since Baylee is a real person and a minor, it probably could be considered child porn.

I would love to hear from those with differing viewpoints.  Mistral and Cynni, what is it about this type of storyline that appeals to you?  I'm not judging, just trying to understand.  I respect that everyone has different tastes when it comes to reading and writing, which is one of the things I like about fanfic - there's something out there for everyone.  This is just something I had never seen before in our fandom, although apparently it's a thing on AO3.  Cinzia told me there are stories like this about Nick and Odin and Kevin and his kids, too.

Exactly. It's one thing if it's completely fiction. Not great but ya know what it happens, especially old kingdoms which GOT is based on, so fine. Squicky but I can deal with it if it's just a side plot. But this is real people fanfic. That's where it gets hairy. And yeah I know I write some crazy stuff but there's always a few lines I won't cross, which is basically no killing their real life kids and apparently no incest with the kids. I typically create fictional kids if I want bad things to happen to them in the story.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 18, 2020, 06:06:25 AM
I don't even like to write about their real kids, never mind do anything to their character in my stories. 

And I also don't write about their wives if I'm going to kill them off, as to me that just isn't something I could ever think of doing.  It wouldn't stop me reading a story about it, just not something I'd feel comfortable with writing myself.

Game of Thrones is different as it's fictional characters, plus Jaime and Cersei are adults and it's not really a big part of the TV series (not sure about the books).


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 18, 2020, 07:04:37 AM
I wonít even kill the boys! The fact that they are real people bothers me to the extent that killing them was always off the table, unless in an alternate universe.

I mean I cringe when I see that people write Brian/Kevin slash but I also understand some people are able to separate the fact that they are related. Throw any of the kids in there and it just elevates the wrong to a whole new level. I am going to say when it comes to the child element, even if itís fictional characters, unless itís someone recalling being abused in a non graphic flashback, bringing abuse to an awareness or light. I.E the writer acknowledging it is wrong,  I would find it completely unsettling and I would call the actual authorís intentions into question. Like VC Andrews for instance. 🤔

Moral of the story: please donít have any of your characters having sex with a child!



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 18, 2020, 11:08:47 AM
Fine! If you donít want know what my point of view is. This proves that you donít respect people who donít think like you.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 18, 2020, 01:10:53 PM
Fine! If you donít want know what my point of view is. This proves that you donít respect people who donít think like you.

I would love to hear from those with differing viewpoints.  Mistral and Cynni, what is it about this type of storyline that appeals to you?  I'm not judging, just trying to understand.  I respect that everyone has different tastes when it comes to reading and writing, which is one of the things I like about fanfic - there's something out there for everyone.  This is just something I had never seen before in our fandom, although apparently it's a thing on AO3.  Cinzia told me there are stories like this about Nick and Odin and Kevin and his kids, too.
^
Julie posted this on the prior page, just in case you missed it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 18, 2020, 05:05:53 PM
Fine! If you donít want know what my point of view is. This proves that you donít respect people who donít think like you.

No one said that, in fact people asked! I've gotten heat for my joke round robin about killing Nick in every chapter. Everyone has a line. We're trying to understand but we can't if no one explains.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 18, 2020, 05:07:31 PM
I don't even like to write about their real kids, never mind do anything to their character in my stories. 

And I also don't write about their wives if I'm going to kill them off, as to me that just isn't something I could ever think of doing.  It wouldn't stop me reading a story about it, just not something I'd feel comfortable with writing myself.

Game of Thrones is different as it's fictional characters, plus Jaime and Cersei are adults and it's not really a big part of the TV series (not sure about the books).

You know it's funny but if I kill a wife I've noticed I always have it happen before the start of the story. I don't ever write it in the story. And it's never out of malice for the wife but if I'm going for angst sometimes yes it's best to use that as a way to send them into a downward spiral or put them in the head space I need the character to be in.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 18, 2020, 08:07:41 PM
I would love to hear from those with differing viewpoints.  Mistral and Cynni, what is it about this type of storyline that appeals to you?  I'm not judging, just trying to understand.  I respect that everyone has different tastes when it comes to reading and writing, which is one of the things I like about fanfic - there's something out there for everyone.  This is just something I had never seen before in our fandom, although apparently it's a thing on AO3.  Cinzia told me there are stories like this about Nick and Odin and Kevin and his kids, too.
^
Julie posted this on the prior page, just in case you missed it.

Thank you, Mare.  Please, Mistral, share your point of view.  I am genuinely curious.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 18, 2020, 08:16:34 PM
No one said that, in fact people asked! I've gotten heat for my joke round robin about killing Nick in every chapter. Everyone has a line. We're trying to understand but we can't if no one explains.

Absolutely!  I was worried about crossing a line with my last two novels.  Maybe I did for some readers, and if that's the case, that's okay.  Everyone's line is different.  My line has changed over the years and will probably continue to do so.  I never had a problem writing about Brian's heart condition, but it was hard for me to write about Nick's.  I'm okay with killing Backstreet Boys and wives if the story calls for it, but maybe I won't always be.  I'm not okay with killing their real kids, but I've given one an incurable illness when the story called for it.  I never used to be into slash, but I have since read and written slash stories I've enjoyed.  I'm not into incest, but I wrote about rape and fetishes in my last novel.

I don't expect my stories to appeal to everyone, but I also don't expect nor want people to reach out to me directly to let me know if they don't like the subject matter I choose to write about.  What I don't know won't hurt me, and if people want to discuss my stories "behind my back," that's fine with me.  I wouldn't put them on the internet if I didn't want them to be discussed.  By doing so, I've opened the door for critiques, and that's okay.  That's part of being a writer, just as critiquing books and stories is part of being a reader.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 19, 2020, 06:24:11 AM
So, after reading the recent posts, I have a question. 

What is off limits to you as a reader/writer?



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 02:52:53 PM
I already answered part of this, but since no one else has posted yet...

There's not much I consider totally off-limits as a writer, but killing real BSB kids is one... and apparently so is incestuous relationships between Backstreet Boys and their kids.  I've written other things that could be considered controversial/taboo or personally made me uncomfortable, but there's something about involving children that just really bothers me.  That's not to say I haven't read and enjoyed things I personally would not write.  Sarah wrote a story years ago called "Fracture" about the aftermath of a car accident in which Nick was driving and Baylee was killed. It was more about Nick dealing with his guilt and Brian blaming him for his son's death, but in that case, killing a kid made for a good, albeit heartbreaking premise.  I'm not going to say I would never cross that line if I had a good idea that called for it because I've crossed every other line I've ever set for myself.  But for now, kids are off-limits.

As a reader, I wouldn't say anything is strictly off-limits to me. I can be a picky reader and have a definite niche of what type of stories I prefer, but I have gone outside my comfort zone before to try stories I didn't think I would like and ended up enjoying them. The summer reading challenge we used to have here was great for that.

That being said, I've never been a big fan of graphic sexual, kinky stuff, whether slash or het.  I don't mind reading sex scenes in the context of a story that's about more than just sex and have enjoyed well-written stories with graphic sex and even rape scenes.  I can't see myself ever enjoying a story about a sexual relationship between one of the Boys and his kids, no matter how well-written, because that disgusts me on so many levels, it would be hard for me to get past it.  Although I have had fun collaborating on stories where Nick is a serial killer and Howie is a supervillain, I generally prefer reading stories where the Boys are portrayed as the decent people I believe them to be in real life, rather than rapists, pedophiles, murderers, etc.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 19, 2020, 05:14:54 PM
When I was writing, like I said before, I refused to kill the boys. I think it was more out of superstition than anything else. I also tried to avoid including the real wives unless they are just spoken about out of scenes. I usual omitted kids too.

I have always been a picky fanfic reader. I just donít enjoy romance or sex scenes so I stay away from that stuff. Things referred to as het or visuals have always been off limit reading to me. Same with slash, unless sex has nothing to do with the story and the boy or boyís just happen to be gay. Not a fan of rape or abuse either. Iím not as picky as a book reader but again, because these are real people who I kind of care about, just some things are a hard no for me.

Remember, these are just opinions. Just because you donít like something doesnít make you mean or unwilling to listen to others opinions. Felt I needed to say that.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 06:16:31 PM
I totally get the superstition thing.  I don't really consider myself superstitious, but I think that's why I get uncomfortable writing some of the stuff I write - bad stuff happening to the Boys and/or their families.  I know it's just fiction, but just because I make something up doesn't mean it couldn't happen in real life.  I prefer realistic fiction, so most of what I've written COULD happen in real life, which is scary.  I know some fans use fanfic to write out their fantasies, but most of my stories are actually my worst nightmares.  But for whatever reason, I like to read and write sad and scary stuff, so it is what it is.  One would be completely justified in asking "What the fuck is wrong with people?!" about me, too LOL - and I would not have an answer.

For the record, Mare, I don't think you're mean or judgmental just because you would never write some of the things I write. :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 06:26:46 PM
Btw, I'm sure we've talked about this before, but finding ways to omit the wives and kids from stories that take place in the modern era (especially without killing them) just keeps getting harder now that they're ALL married with children.  Maybe this is why some writers have turned to incest instead of traditional romance.  Can't get rid of the kids?  Just have your Backstreet Boy hook up with them instead!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 19, 2020, 07:59:35 PM
So, after reading the recent posts, I have a question. 

What is off limits to you as a reader/writer?



Not much is off limits for me as a writer. I have a don't kill the kids rule and that's because it feels a bit squicky so I don't go there. Obviously I have no issue killing off the wives, in fact my latest fic has Nick years later after Lauren died. I don't typically write the death of the wives in the fic though it does happen. And apparently no incest LOL.

Reading wise while I'm pickier it doesn't mean I won't, it just means it takes more to snag me. I've been known to read a romance but it takes a hell of a premise and female character. I'm not against slash, and I enjoyed Sick as My Secrets but to me it's hard for me to suspend my belief so it's rare. It takes a very realistic concept to keep me in it. What I won't read at all? I've seen writers kill off the kids and so apparently I can read it just not write it. My big line is no incest. Won't read it. Won't touch it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 08:15:32 PM
I think I've only actually killed a wife twice... and both times it was Leighanne LOL.  It may be harder to kill one off now, seeing how happy the guys are.  I really do love all their wives.  It made me sad to read about Lauren in your story, Rose.  But I have three story ideas that involve dead wives at the beginning, so I can't say that's a line I won't cross anymore.  Sorry, ladies.  I've definitely killed more Boys than wives, though.

I don't know if I have another slash in me after SAMS, but writing that at least made me more open to reading them.  I don't seek them out, but I also don't avoid a story just because it has that slash label anymore.  I'm really enjoying Tracy's Brian/Nick story that I wish she would update.

Incest in general is not off-limits to me.  I actually had some incest planned for my last story at one point, but that was between the villainous sister and brother (who was not one of the Backstreet Boys).  I wouldn't even say writing about child abuse or sexual abuse is off-limits because, as Mare said earlier, that kind of stuff can make for a good traumatic back story.  It just wouldn't ever be between one of the Boys and his kid.  Pedophilia is one disease I will never give a Backstreet Boy LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 19, 2020, 08:21:04 PM
For me a fanfic is only a story so I know itís never gonna happen in real life. I read so many fanfics about real people so itís not something that bother me.

I write slash for so long, I writer on a french forum when they still existed teach me how to write a slash fanfic, so I always read that type of fanfics.

For the incest, it depend how the story is build. If itís only to hurt them, itís a big no no for me, but me for to read it the kids need to be almost adult with the age of consent.

I donít like the wives in a fanfic, I write only with the boys.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 08:39:55 PM
Well, the incest story I came across the other day had Brian raping Baylee and threatening to let the rest of the guys gang-bang him on tour.  There was no consent involved, and Baylee was traumatized.  I can't imagine myself enjoying a story about a "loving" incestuous relationship between father and son either, but this was definitely not that.  This story portrayed Brian as a rapist, a pedophile, and a child abuser and suggested that the other four were the same way.  I know we all write about things that we wouldn't want to happen in real life, but I guess I just don't understand the entertainment value of that particular characterizati on of the guys.  To each their own.

What was the best piece of advice you got for writing slash, Mistral?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 19, 2020, 08:44:51 PM
Iím gonna wait to read more this fanfic before I talk about it.

I cannot wait to read your fanfic about ER!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 08:52:53 PM
Thanks!  It is coming along... slowly.  It's only going to be ten chapters plus an epilogue, and I finished Chapter 6 last night, so it's over halfway done.  But I've been working on it sporadically since like 2012, so who knows how long it will take to write the last five chapters.  I want to at least be close to the end before I start posting it just because of how long it's taken me to get to this point.

I have such huge respect for the writers of ER (and all decent medical dramas) because it's harder than I thought it would be to research and get all the medical details right while still keeping the story moving at an exciting pace.  ER did it perfectly, and they were pretty spot-on with most of the medical stuff, from what I can tell.  I am trying my best to mimic them LOL.  It's fun writing characters from another fandom for a change though.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 19, 2020, 09:00:42 PM
If you need help with it Iím here! You are welcome!

Right now I write a fanfic about the last ship, ER and our bsb in it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 09:04:52 PM
Thank you!  Are you posting your new fanfic anywhere yet?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 19, 2020, 09:08:31 PM
Very welcome!

I wish I can, but my dad work at home so I cannot use our family computer until he goes back to work at his office. I donít know when it is gonna be.

If someone can help me to find a way so I can post my fanfic.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 09:13:18 PM
That's too bad.  When I first started writing, it was the same way - I would have to get on my mom's computer to update, without anyone seeing what I was doing LOL.  I had to be stealthy.

What are you using to write and post on here?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 19, 2020, 09:18:27 PM
I write it first on paper, after that I put in the family computer to translate it and finally post it here.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 09:22:34 PM
What are you using right now on the forum?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 19, 2020, 09:23:38 PM
My ipad!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2020, 09:30:58 PM
My ipad!

Have you ever used Google Docs?  You could get the app for your iPad and type your stories that way or use voice-typing to dictate them, which may be faster since you already have them written on paper.  It does a pretty good job at recognizing speech, although you do still have to go back and edit for things like punctuation, capital letters, and words that it gets wrong.  Then you could either copy/paste from Google Docs onto AO3, AC, and wherever else right on your iPad or pull up your stories on Google Docs on your dad's computer when you're able to get on it again.  It's nice because it's all online and saves changes automatically.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 19, 2020, 10:03:33 PM
I doesnít have an google account and right now my ipad is full because the games I play, music and pictures.
I cannot add anything on my dad computer, so itís gonna wait when Iím gonna be able to buy a new ipad.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 20, 2020, 05:19:49 AM
For me, nothing seems to be off limits to read and write apart from paedophilia.

I've killed characters off and read plenty of stories where characters are killed or tortured.  I never thought I'd read slash but loved Sick As My Secrets and also enjoying Tracy's story too If I Knew Then.  I think because they are more about the love and not just graphic sex scenes. 

I don't like graphic sex scenes but have read them and may have even written them and cringed lol.  But I wouldn't want to read/write a story that is just all sex and no story.  I know a lot of people who like that kind of thing, and that's fine as I know we all have different taste, but it's not for me.

Julie, I wouldn't have been put off A Heart That Isn't Mine if the brother and sister were in an incestuous relationship as they were adults, and they were a couple of weirdos and it would've fitted the story well lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2020, 11:03:45 AM
I think because they are more about the love and not just graphic sex scenes. 

I think that's the difference for me too.  I'm a lot more willing to stick with something that makes me uncomfortable if it makes sense in the context of a larger story.

Julie, I wouldn't have been put off A Heart That Isn't Mine if the brother and sister were in an incestuous relationship as they were adults, and they were a couple of weirdos and it would've fitted the story well lol.

LOL, I switched from incest to necrophilia... which is worse? LOL I actually think incest is worse because necrophilia's not really hurting anyone, as the victims are dead, but necrophilia is definitely grosser.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 21, 2020, 03:46:19 AM
I think that's the difference for me too.  I'm a lot more willing to stick with something that makes me uncomfortable if it makes sense in the context of a larger story.

LOL, I switched from incest to necrophilia... which is worse? LOL I actually think incest is worse because necrophilia's not really hurting anyone, as the victims are dead, but necrophilia is definitely grosser.

Even if it had been both, it would have fitted the characters, definitely gross though lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 21, 2020, 11:17:53 AM
I just receive an email from ticketmaster for Montreal concert.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 21, 2020, 12:52:06 PM
Yes, I got emails from Ticketmaster and Live Nation for the two shows I bought tickets for.  Both said the shows have been postponed, not cancelled, and that they're working to reschedule the dates.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 21, 2020, 12:54:46 PM
So let's play "What's the grossest thing you've ever written or looked up for a story?"  Necrophilia is definitely up there for me.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 21, 2020, 03:37:38 PM
Actually I haven't looked up anything super gross lol. Ironic. I do remember googling seizure videos for Undead.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 21, 2020, 05:28:32 PM
Poor Twitchin' Nick LOL. I bet the grossest thing you ever wrote was for Undead too... splody zombies or something along those lines.

You just reminded me I once researched enemas and wrote a scene about one of the Carter girls giving Hugh Hefner one in 00Carter, so thanks for that memory.  That is right up there with necrophilia LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 21, 2020, 06:38:47 PM
I havenít ever really looked up anything gross. The only time Iíve ever done real research was about wormholes and ptsd. I think the most disturbing thing Iíve ever written was the MINE scene in It Stays.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 21, 2020, 08:14:23 PM
Definite the MINE scene!  Tim in Hope was disturbing too, but not in a gross way.  I feel like researching wormholes would make my head hurt LOL.  Time travel, parallel universes, all that stuff blows my mind if I think too much about it.  I commend you for writing such a great story about parallel universes because that could not have been easy to keep everything straight and somehow make it make sense!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 21, 2020, 10:25:50 PM
Poor Twitchin' Nick LOL. I bet the grossest thing you ever wrote was for Undead too... splody zombies or something along those lines.

You just reminded me I once researched enemas and wrote a scene about one of the Carter girls giving Hugh Hefner one in 00Carter, so thanks for that memory.  That is right up there with necrophilia LOL.

lmao good times. And yep it was splody zombies, you shoot one and kaboom! guts everywhere.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 22, 2020, 01:58:23 AM
Mine was the bot flies lol.  I remember I saw a documentary on TV about a guy who was in the jungle and got an infestation, and then did a little research into bot fly infestation for botfly Jordan lol.

I'm sure it couldn't have been easy all the research you all did, as all of your stories seem so realistic.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 22, 2020, 07:11:31 AM
Definite the MINE scene!  Tim in Hope was disturbing too, but not in a gross way.  I feel like researching wormholes would make my head hurt LOL.  Time travel, parallel universes, all that stuff blows my mind if I think too much about it.  I commend you for writing such a great story about parallel universes because that could not have been easy to keep everything straight and somehow make it make sense!

It definitely made my brain hurt. Tim was disturbing but more in a mayor of crazy town way. I give you credit for researching all the medical stuff you do. One of the reasons I never really did a medical drama was because of all the research that would have to go into it and how low my tolerance is for seeing visuals of stuff like that.

I was definitely going to say the bot fly scene for you Steph lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 22, 2020, 08:30:46 AM
Tim in Hope was definitely a weirdo lol, I loved that story though


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 22, 2020, 07:13:50 PM
One thing I've learned over the years is that I google some strange shit when I'm writing a story. My current one has some gems LOL


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 22, 2020, 10:38:39 PM
Steph, I knew you were going to say bot flies!  I was going to say it if you didn't LOL.  That was so delightfully disgusting!  We have a show over here called Monsters Inside Me about people with parasites and flesh-eating bacteria and stuff like that.  Bot flies have probably been on it.  It makes me squirm, but I love watching it at the same time.

Mare, Tim is probably my favorite of all your original characters.  He was so batshit crazy and scary, but I loved him in a weird way.  You made him somehow sympathetic, even though he was the villain and I was rooting for the Boys to get away from him.

Rose, I bet you do have some gems in your new one!  I can't wait to read more of it!

I actually really enjoy researching, especially the medical stuff.  Living alone, I have become much bolder in what I'm willing to look up pictures and videos of for the sake of describing things more realistically.  I don't have to worry about anyone looking at my search history, so whatever!  Google and Big Brother can think I'm weird all they want; I'm sure they've seen worse.  I don't usually get grossed out watching medical procedures or seeing graphic pictures.  Like, I will say, "Oh wow, that's gross," but it doesn't bother me.  I'm not sure I could have stomached actually being a doctor or nurse, though, because smells do bother me.  I will gag almost to the point of throwing up at the smells in public restrooms sometimes, and I'm sure many healthcare workers have to deal with much, much worse on a regular basis.  Stinky kids at school are enough for me!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 23, 2020, 12:07:17 AM
Do you guys think the Christmas album is going to happen this year?  Nick mentioned in the interview he did on Instagram the other day that they've been doing Zoom calls and talking about it, but they've been talking about it for a long time... and still no album LOL.  Now that they've officially postponed the tour, I hope they get busy at least writing songs for a new album.  Recording may be more difficult, but surely they could do some work from home.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 23, 2020, 02:49:48 AM
I have my doubts lol but I hope it does! Iíd rather an all a capella album but if they include some a capella songs on a Christmas album, Iíd be just as happy. For the love of God though, no All I Want for Christmas is You cover!!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 23, 2020, 06:53:58 AM
Who knows. I remember how long DNA took, and IAWLT lol. I think maybe someday. This could be the year we'll get either that or the acoustic album cause seriously what else do they have to do? LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 23, 2020, 07:54:32 PM
Right?!  I know they're enjoying just having down time at home with their families, as they should, but I would think at some point they'd get bored and want to go back to work in some way.  An acoustic or a capella album would be a perfect quarantine project too!  I'll be happy with anything put out.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 25, 2020, 04:54:44 AM
An acoustic album would be great!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2020, 06:06:30 PM
Mare, you may have already seen this because I saw it when Tracy responded to it, but there is a thread on Twitter talking about "It Stays With You" and how it's a fanfic that literally stays with people. https://twitter.com/tinkerbrittt/status/1265053864224591873

For everyone, is there a fanfic you read years ago that has always stuck with you, even if you've moved on from fanfic?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 25, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
Mare, you may have already seen this because I saw it when Tracy responded to it, but there is a thread on Twitter talking about "It Stays With You" and how it's a fanfic that literally stays with people. https://twitter.com/tinkerbrittt/status/1265053864224591873

For everyone, is there a fanfic you read years ago that has always stuck with you, even if you've moved on from fanfic?

No, I didnít see that. Wow, thatís really awesome! Hehe rubs hands together like Mr. Burns ďexcellent!Ē


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 25, 2020, 08:51:14 PM
The fanfic thatís always stuck with me is Ground Zero and Swollen Issues both of those made me a fan and made me want to find out more about the boys and to make me want to write as well.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 26, 2020, 06:48:05 PM
Swollen Issues is one of mine as well.  I never knew Nick cancer stories were a thing I enjoyed until I read that one LOL.

I would also say Where Can We Go From Here.  I've always put that story on such a pedestal because of how much I loved it back in the day, even though, reading it as an adult, I see how cheesy it is.  Still, it was one of the better-written fanfics from the Millennium era.

Signal to Noise is another one that has always stuck with me because of how disturbing but also compelling it was.  I actually reread that one in its entirety last year as I was writing AHTIM, and it still holds up.

And then there are stories that have those shocking moments, like a lot of the ones we already mentioned - MINE, the bot flies, etc. - that will always stick with me.

I said this same thing about Survivor seasons in the TV thread, but I tend to remember details from stories I read a long time ago better than details from stories I read more recently, like within the last few years.  I guess it's a combination of the fact that the whole fanfic thing was new to me back then, so it stuck with me more, and also that I re-read some of these stories multiple times.  Whereas I can name stories I've read in the last 5-10 years that I know I enjoyed, but if you asked me specific questions about the plot, I'd be screwed LOL.  I also think it's harder to find memorable fanfics these days... If it hasn't been done before, then it's usually something weird like Brian/Baylee slash LOL.


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Post by: Carter-Orange on May 27, 2020, 02:53:54 AM
There are quite a few stories I've read that have stuck with me.  Song For the Undead, which combines my love of Walking Dead and BSB perfectly :)  Curtain Call, A Heart That Isn't Mine, Whatever The Night May Bring, Hope is the last Thing Ever Lost, Ground Zero, Remember Me This Way and Ray of Hope.



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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 27, 2020, 01:18:11 PM
Thanks! :)


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Post by: mare on May 27, 2020, 03:24:40 PM
Thanks, Steph!


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Post by: Rose on May 30, 2020, 12:23:48 AM
Aww thanks!

The Legend, by Whitney
The Answer Is Yes by Eboni.

Mainly old sci-fis cause they were so hard to find and be well written LOL.


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Post by: Rose on June 19, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
Taking a moment to appreciate how cute Nick's kids are. They have good genes LOL. Saiorse has gotten big.

https://twitter.com/nickcarter/status/1273952564409745414?s=20


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Post by: mare on June 19, 2020, 05:09:37 PM
Her hair is lightening like her brotherís did.


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Post by: Rose on June 19, 2020, 05:48:31 PM
Yeah it is. Blondes are weird. Mine was SUPER light when I was little but by the time I was 10 it'd darkened to a dirty blonde lol. Theirs is doing the opposite.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 19, 2020, 08:32:39 PM
I was so happy to see that!  He hadn't posted any pics of them in a long time, and I love seeing them.  Saoirse is getting big and looking more like Nick every day.  She has Lauren's coloring and Nick's eyes, and Odin has Nick's coloring and Lauren's eyes.  They're both cute combinations of their parents.


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Post by: Rose on June 19, 2020, 09:04:42 PM
I was so happy to see that!  He hadn't posted any pics of them in a long time, and I love seeing them.  Saoirse is getting big and looking more like Nick every day.  She has Lauren's coloring and Nick's eyes, and Odin has Nick's coloring and Lauren's eyes.  They're both cute combinations of their parents.

They really are. Saoirse is a lot like Nick, it's like she stole his face LOL. Like how Lyric took AJ's. Odin is a really good mix, I see a lot of Lauren with like a dash of Nick.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 19, 2020, 11:08:26 PM
I see it more and more with Saoirse as she gets older.  I used to think Odin looked more like Lauren, but he has turned into a mini Nick.  The shape of his eyes are more Lauren though, which is I think why I thought he took after her more as a baby.

That's true about AJ's girls, too - Ava looks a lot like Rochelle with a little AJ mixed in, but Lyric is all AJ LOL.  I wish they would post more pics too; I miss Rochelle being active on social media.


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Post by: Rose on June 20, 2020, 12:08:55 AM
I see it more and more with Saoirse as she gets older.  I used to think Odin looked more like Lauren, but he has turned into a mini Nick.  The shape of his eyes are more Lauren though, which is I think why I thought he took after her more as a baby.

That's true about AJ's girls, too - Ava looks a lot like Rochelle with a little AJ mixed in, but Lyric is all AJ LOL.  I wish they would post more pics too; I miss Rochelle being active on social media.

Those Carter genes are strong, cause yeah Nick's showing up more LOL.

Man I wish they would. I get why Rochelle isn't anymore, she got just as much hate as Lauren but it seemed to mess with her more.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2020, 12:23:33 AM
Yeah, I don't blame Rochelle.  Why are some fans so mean?  I can see the criticism of Leighanne; she brings that on herself.  Lauren's always going to get hate just because she's married to the Chosen One, and his crazy fangirls are jealous of her.  But what did Rochelle ever do?  I find her to be the most relatable of all the BSB wives.


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Post by: Rose on June 20, 2020, 12:34:16 AM
Yeah, I don't blame Rochelle.  Why are some fans so mean?  I can see the criticism of Leighanne; she brings that on herself.  Lauren's always going to get hate just because she's married to the Chosen One, and his crazy fangirls are jealous of her.  But what did Rochelle ever do?  I find her to be the most relatable of all the BSB wives.

LMAO you say Chosen One and all I hear is Hargid going "Yer a wizard Nicky".

I always really loved Kristin. She's always so sweet in person and she's adorable with Kevin. Lauren too because it takes someone who doesn't take any shit to not only deal with the crazy fangirls but everything else that's followed whether it's from his family or other thirsty people.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2020, 12:45:32 AM
LOL!!  Make Hagrid Lou Pearlman, and that could be a cute parody.  "Yer a Backstreet Boy, Nicky."


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Post by: mare on June 20, 2020, 02:42:37 AM
People are mean lol just in case you need reminding.

I think Rochelle stays off social media because she is so normal. Itís gotta be the worst feeling in the world to get a gaggle of harsh comments after every little post you share. Iíve always liked her and Kristin the most.

I could never handle being a celebrity or being related to one. Iíd have a hard time turning the other cheek and would end up fighting with people.


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Post by: Rose on June 20, 2020, 04:37:39 AM
People are mean lol just in case you need reminding.

I think Rochelle stays off social media because she is so normal. Itís gotta be the worst feeling in the world to get a gaggle of harsh comments after every little post you share. Iíve always liked her and Kristin the most.

I could never handle being a celebrity or being related to one. Iíd have a hard time turning the other cheek and would end up fighting with people.

I probably would too LOL.

LOL!!  Make Hagrid Lou Pearlman, and that could be a cute parody.  "Yer a Backstreet Boy, Nicky."


I mean it'd be easy enough to turn his parents into the Dursleys lol


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Post by: Sakabelle on June 20, 2020, 06:54:59 AM
Nickís #familyman posts are so fake and wrought with PR. Telling that he returned to post that after the Danny Masterson stuff kicked up heat around him again. Stuff like this is why Iíve really grown to dislike him.


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Post by: mare on June 20, 2020, 07:36:52 AM
Nick seems to love his kids. Thatís pretty plain to see. Heís never talked ill about them or has acted like having them is the biggest burden in the world. Whenever he speaks about his kids it comes out of a place of love, and I mean Iím the most cynical person in the world and even I can see that. Iím pretty sure itís not a PR stunt. I would think if he really felt like the Danny Masterson thing was something heíd be dragged back into the spotlight for, which I havenít seen either, he would completely stay off of social media until it blew over.

I know when you intensely hate someone, you assume there is probably ulterior motives behind everything they do, but sometimes an apple is just an apple.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2020, 10:30:41 AM
I'm sure Nick does like to show off the fact that he has made so many positive changes in his life in the last twelve years, but I agree, Mare - his love for his family looks genuine.  Most fans enjoy seeing pictures of his kids, so he's not just posting them for his own benefit.  I think the fact that he grew up in such a dysfunctional family and used to say he never wanted to get married or have kids because of it makes him appreciate the family he's got now even more.  He seems much happier than he was in the early 2000s.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on June 20, 2020, 12:31:42 PM
Nickís #familyman posts are so fake and wrought with PR. Telling that he returned to post that after the Danny Masterson stuff kicked up heat around him again. Stuff like this is why Iíve really grown to dislike him.

I firmly believe he loves his kids and likes showing them off like any proud parent. And yeah I'm sure he also enjoys reminding himself and possibly others how much he's changed. When you change your life, you have every right to be proud of it. But I think you're reading too much into this. You say "heat kicked up" but what heat? I doubt he is truly bothered by what former fans have to say.

Anywho, his kids are adorable which was the point of my bringing up his recent tweet.

I'm sure Nick does like to show off the fact that he has made so many positive changes in his life in the last twelve years, but I agree, Mare - his love for his family looks genuine.  Most fans enjoy seeing pictures of his kids, so he's not just posting them for his own benefit.  I think the fact that he grew up in such a dysfunctional family and used to say he never wanted to get married or have kids because of it makes him appreciate the family he's got now even more.  He seems much happier than he was in the early 2000s.

He seems a lot happier. And I saw that he volunteered at Three Square here in Vegas. He's always giving back to the city (sometimes quietly too, before PR is mentioned) and it's one of my favorite things about him. Not all celebrities that live here do this.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
He really has gotten into the charity work lately!  Good for him.


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Post by: Rose on June 20, 2020, 01:47:22 PM
I have my music on shuffle and Weird World came on. Honestly this song feels as timely as it did then. Plus Nick sounds wonderful. I kind of wish he'd sing it now since his voice is so much stronger than it was then.


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Post by: mare on June 20, 2020, 02:22:41 PM
I havenít listened to Nevergone in a really long time. In fact I havenít really listened to much of anything since I no longer commute anywhere. For a musician I really should listen to music more often lol Iím all about reading and watching TV. I wish I could motivate myself to write something as well.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 20, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
LOL Weird World is a perfect anthem for this weird-ass year.

I listen to music mainly when I'm in my car too, or when I'm cleaning or on the computer.  This week I've been listening to my random playlist of regular music while I write, which I usually find distracting, but it's been working for me this week.  I wish you could motivate yourself to write something too!  It's been a good distraction.


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Post by: Rose on June 21, 2020, 01:35:35 AM
I havenít listened to Nevergone in a really long time. In fact I havenít really listened to much of anything since I no longer commute anywhere. For a musician I really should listen to music more often lol Iím all about reading and watching TV. I wish I could motivate myself to write something as well.

I'm going through spurts where if I'm not tired I'm writing to give myself mental breaks. Some nights lately are so rough that I just try and unwind by binge watching LOL. I always listen to music when I'm cleaning or in the shower.

Lately I'm also getting distracted by YouTube, I was looking up something for Nick and ended up watching videos lmao. Like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beJlOmKZ-PA


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 21, 2020, 10:10:36 AM
I still love that song so much!  Glad to hear you've been writing.  I need an update on your new story!  I totally get being so brain dead you just want to binge watch TV instead though.  That is usually me after work too.


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Post by: Carter-Orange on June 23, 2020, 04:39:41 AM
I love that Nick posted pictures of his kids, he looks so happy and has really turned his life around.  I love seeing all of them posting family pictures, and I don't understand why people post such hateful comments to them.  I'd hate to be famous, I think if I was I'd just have to have private accounts for friends and family.

I agree with Julie, need an update on your new story Rose :)



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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 23, 2020, 11:53:06 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the Boys did have private accounts that we don't know about.  I probably would if I were famous too.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 23, 2020, 10:01:12 PM
I learned a new piece of BSB trivia tonight that I never knew before!  As all American fans probably know, the U.S. "Backstreet Boys" debut album is different from the international debut album (the red album).  The U.S. debut features songs from both the red album and the Backstreet's Back album, but has the same cover as Backstreet's Back.  I knew all of that.  But what I did not know was that there are two different versions of the U.S. debut.  

From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backstreet_Boys_(1997_album):
"There were two editions of this album available. The original pressing contained 11 songs and did not include "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)". Presumably, this may have been due to the title of the song, which correlates with the title of the international album, Backstreet's Back. The title would not necessarily make sense in the context of this album being their American debut. The decision to make it a single in the US contributed to a re-release of the album in 1998, which contained 12 tracks, this time including an extended version of the song.[8] There are also several differences between the songs from the international debut album: the second verse of "Quit Playing Games" was re-recorded to feature Nick Carter, replacing Brian Littrell's verse from the original version; "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)" was only featured in an extended mix, and a demo version of "As Long as You Love Me", using different instrumentatio n, arrangement and mixing, was included in place of the final version. The demo version was released as a single in the US and the final version was released in the 1998 pressing of the album and on The Hits Ė Chapter One.

The original pressing of the album had a maroon spine and blue background on the back inlay. The second pressing of the album had a teal spine and a straw-colored background on the back inlay. Both versions of the album contained the same Enhanced Section, containing videos and other multimedia files."


I didn't buy the album until 1998, so I've only ever had the one with Everybody and the Nick version of QPG.  I knew there was an older version of QPG because I later bought the red album, but I never knew there was a different version of the entire album.  Mind blown!

Do any of my fellow American fans have the original version?


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Post by: Rose on June 24, 2020, 03:15:53 AM
I had no idea about the 11 track version till a couple years ago. I forget how I found out but yeah their debut here has a weird history LOL.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 24, 2020, 09:19:47 AM
It makes sense why they didn't put Everybody on it originally, even though it's an amazing song, because I remember my friends and I questioning why they were singing "Backstreet's back" before we knew they had actually had another album out already.  We were like, "Back from where??" LOL

I wish they would have just made the U.S. debut a double album with all the songs from the red album and Backstreet's Back.  Some of the choices they made on which songs to include and which to leave out are questionable.


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Post by: Rose on June 24, 2020, 05:43:17 PM
It makes sense why they didn't put Everybody on it originally, even though it's an amazing song, because I remember my friends and I questioning why they were singing "Backstreet's back" before we knew they had actually had another album out already.  We were like, "Back from where??" LOL

I wish they would have just made the U.S. debut a double album with all the songs from the red album and Backstreet's Back.  Some of the choices they made on which songs to include and which to leave out are questionable.

Agreed. Some if their best early songs never got released here and it's a damn travesty. Though it's funny cause you can tell at shows who the die hards are based on if they know I Wanna Be With You lol


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 24, 2020, 07:42:19 PM
I Wanna Be With You is definitely one that should have been on the U.S. album!  Also That's the Way I Like It and Like a Child.  I would trade Darlin', Hey Mr. DJ, and Anywhere for You for those three.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on July 20, 2020, 04:23:37 PM
This thread hasn't been updated in almost a month, and that is sad.

I just noticed something interesting about AO3 that I wanted to bring up.  I've been posting my stories on there throughout the pandemic; I started with all the short ones and then moved on to some of my novels, posting a chapter a day.  I just finished Curtain Call last week and am getting toward the end of Song for the Undead.  Undead is the longest story I will probably put on AO3, and I was curious to see how it compared to other stories there, length-wise, so I did a sort by word count within the BSB section.  I found that not only is Undead already the longest BSB fic there, Curtain Call is number two, and there are quite a few older stories I recognize by AC authors (Mare and Rose) just on the first page.  Here is the sort if you're interested in seeing for yourself: https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Backstreet%20Boys/works?commit=Sort+and+Filter&page=1&utf8=%E2%9C%93&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=&work_search%5Bcrossover%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_from%5D=&work_search%5Bdate_to%5D=&work_search%5Bexcluded_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=word_count&work_search%5Bwords_from%5D=&work_search%5Bwords_to%5D=

I thought it was interesting that all these old stories are some of the longest on the site, which got me thinking about how trends may have changed outside of my little BSB bubble of my own site and AC.  Are novels not as popular anymore compared to short stories, or is AO3 just full of authors who start stories and don't finish them?  I've always preferred novels to short stories as both a reader and writer because they allow for more complex plots and character development, but maybe that's not what the average reader on that site is looking for.  It's interesting how the culture and norms are different across fanfic communities within the same fandom.


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Post by: mare on July 21, 2020, 04:53:00 AM
Thatís interesting. I havenít really looked around on there very much, but I can say based on things I have posted, it seems like I got more hits for my one shots than my novels. And those hits are few and far between. I think if I were writing fiction now, no one would be reading my stuff. I think itís mostly slash and het stuff now.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2020, 11:05:56 AM
It seems to be very slash dominated over there, especially Brian/Nick slash.  There's not even a lot of het romance that I've seen.  It makes me wonder how many more hits I would get if I just started throwing the Brian/Nick tag on all my stories, haha.  I wouldn't really do that, but it would be an interesting experiment.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on July 22, 2020, 07:14:50 PM
How cute is it that Nick says he's writing a children's book?!  I'm so proud of him!  And unlike some Backstreet Boys, Nick actually seems to finish the projects he starts, so I could see this happening.


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Post by: mare on July 22, 2020, 07:58:33 PM
I give him so much credit! When he has an idea, he really does his best to make them happen.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on July 22, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
I know!  And he is so creative, I bet he could come up with a really cute children's book.  I hope he does his own illustrations!


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Post by: Rose on July 22, 2020, 08:19:52 PM
I know!  And he is so creative, I bet he could come up with a really cute children's book.  I hope he does his own illustrations!

If he does I'll buy it the second it comes out LOL.


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Post by: Carter-Orange on July 25, 2020, 12:26:32 PM
I've not really read much on AO3, only Julie's story and a North & South continuation story (Elizabeth Gaskell not the American North & South TV series).  I've only posted a few things on there so far too.

It's cute that Nick is going to write a kids book, I can imagine him having success with it too.


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Post by: Rose on August 19, 2020, 01:00:05 AM
Did y'all listen to their new podcast? LOVE lol.


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Post by: Mistral on August 19, 2020, 12:05:04 PM
I love it so much! I hope they gonna do more episode!


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Post by: mare on August 20, 2020, 01:57:18 PM
Nope, but itís great that they are doing a podcast.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on August 25, 2020, 03:14:05 AM
So AJ's going to be on DWTS lol. He's been dying to go on ever since Nick did it, I'm surprised it took him this long. But then again BSB has been busy the past five years LOL. This forced break gave AJ the window he needed. I think he'll end up being really good on it.

Also apparently the podcast has a new episode each month.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on August 27, 2020, 08:17:34 PM
I am so excited!!!  This is the best thing to come out of this pandemic.  Like you said, he wouldn't have been able to do this if the tour hadn't been postponed, so that worked out well.  It'll be especially great to have something to look forward to watching on TV because I bet a lot of my usual fall shows will be postponed. 

I think I'll wait a few months to do a free trial of Apple Music and make sure they actually follow through on posting more episodes of this podcast.  Then I can listen to a few at once for free.  Leave it to BSB to only put out one episode per month.  I'm not a podcast expert, but the true crime ones I listen to come out once a week.  I heard the first episode was good though!


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Post by: mare on August 29, 2020, 09:24:15 AM
Iím happy for him. I know heís been wanting to do that show forever. Well that and Big Brother lol


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Post by: RokofAges75 on August 30, 2020, 01:43:04 PM
He'll be so good!!


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Post by: Rose on August 30, 2020, 05:13:52 PM
Exactly. Now if we could just get Nick to go be on Masked Singer, we could save 2020 lmao. I know that's a pipe dream to think he'd do it right now but dammit I want it. I'm really looking forward to AJ though, honestly I think we all just need something fun since everything else has been taken away by corona.


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Post by: Mistral on August 31, 2020, 09:22:42 AM
What do you think about whatís going on with Brian right now? Iím worried about him because he is in a bad road right now.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 01, 2020, 11:41:06 AM
I think Brian is bored and felt like trolling his fans and sending a message that he loves his wife no matter how racist her ass is.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on September 01, 2020, 05:55:33 PM
Exactly. Now if we could just get Nick to go be on Masked Singer, we could save 2020 lmao. I know that's a pipe dream to think he'd do it right now but dammit I want it. I'm really looking forward to AJ though, honestly I think we all just need something fun since everything else has been taken away by corona.

Yes!!  Hey, you never know.  Masked Singer must be coming back soon because I saw my DVR is set to record a sneak peek sometime in the next couple weeks.  Maybe he will do it!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 01, 2020, 05:56:41 PM
I think Brian is bored and felt like trolling his fans and sending a message that he loves his wife no matter how racist her ass is.

I think that's it too.  Get a better hobby, Brian.  Use that studio of yours to work on some music.


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Post by: Mistral on September 01, 2020, 06:43:58 PM
Me I donít like to see him drinking like that and he is on a bad road right now.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 04, 2020, 11:24:20 PM
Yes!!  Hey, you never know.  Masked Singer must be coming back soon because I saw my DVR is set to record a sneak peek sometime in the next couple weeks.  Maybe he will do it!

That would be amazing if he managed to LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 05, 2020, 10:47:03 AM
It's a good year to do this kind of stuff, since their normally busy schedules are suddenly wide open.  Might as well take advantage!


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Post by: Carter-Orange on September 22, 2020, 02:19:09 AM
I think Nick would be great on the Masked Singer too, I wouldn't get to see it of course until he was unmasked, but it would be great nevertheless :)



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 23, 2020, 05:08:53 PM
True but let's be honest we'd know as soon as he opened his mouth it was him LOL.

When Jesse McCartney was on last season I knew after he sang his first song.


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Post by: Carter-Orange on September 28, 2020, 12:24:42 PM
Yes I don't think we'd have any trouble guessing :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on October 01, 2020, 01:26:07 AM
Yes!!  Hey, you never know.  Masked Singer must be coming back soon because I saw my DVR is set to record a sneak peek sometime in the next couple weeks.  Maybe he will do it!

This post aged perfectly lmao.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on October 04, 2020, 10:27:16 AM
Hahaha, yes!!  It really is the perfect time for them to be doing all these reality shows.  I'm sad it's Week A again this week, so we won't see him again until next week.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on October 05, 2020, 10:21:07 PM
I know! Ugh. But at least he's on there LOL


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on October 09, 2020, 03:52:40 PM
What do you think about Brian post about adoption?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on October 10, 2020, 07:55:56 AM
I don't know... I thought maybe a dog?  He seems to enjoy posting vague, random things to make us all scratch our heads and wonder.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on October 10, 2020, 11:19:38 AM
Iím worried more and more for him


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on October 14, 2020, 04:46:20 PM
Have you read the People article about AJ yet?  https://people.com/music/aj-mclean-10-months-sober-rock-bottom-encounter-with-daughter/

I'm proud of him for the hard work he's put in this year, but it's disappointing to hear that he was still using drugs just ten months ago.  I knew he must have slipped up around the holidays because of his comments about being so many months sober throughout this year, but I naively assumed he'd just had some drinks on New Year's Eve or something.  Sounds like it was worse than that.  Rochelle is a saint for sticking with him.  That's true love.

I love AJ, but I feel like we can't even believe a lot of what he says.  His quote about being a "late bloomer" and not touching a drink until he was 25...  Um, okay, that's clearly not true because he was 23 when he went to rehab for the first time in 2001.  Oh AJ, LOL.

He is looking really good lately though!  I can't wait for his hair to grow back.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on October 15, 2020, 05:55:56 AM
Aww thatís sad to hear, but glad to know heís on the right track again.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on October 19, 2020, 08:13:00 AM
I feel like AJ messed up his memory a bit. Cause he's always screwing up years like that. Or he's embellishing cause he's AJ lol.

I'd seen him drinking during the residency. I hated it, but knew there was nothing fans could do. Just hoped he'd get back on the wagon. I'm glad he is now.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on October 20, 2020, 06:32:15 PM
Yeah, that could be.  They all mess up years... thank goodness they have us fans to remember things correctly for them LOL.