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Title: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 09, 2019, 06:41:40 AM
Hey guys! Since our other thread has gotten a bit long, I thought Iíd start a new one and change the idea. Since so few of us actual discuss things here, I changed it from just a question thread to a conversation one as well, so if you have anything on your mind BSB related, feel free to post in here.

Last things we were talking about - if any of the guys did something awful, would they stay together?
The me too debate concerning Nick
If there was any circumstance that would have you not be a fan
If we think they will win a Grammy
If all the new BSB stuff has anyone excited to write
Etc...

New thought - have you been watching all the interviews and have they said anything that has surprised you?




Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 02:19:40 PM
I think I've caught most of the interviews.  It still surprises me that they are all in agreement over If You Want It To Be Good Girl being their WORST song.  Really?!  It's a stupid song, don't get me wrong, but it's also catchy and fun.  I love it!  They have definitely recorded much worse, some of which they put on their albums!

What do you think is the worst officially released BSB song?  I'd have to go with She's a Dream.  I hate everything about that song, from the music/melody to the stupid Shorty lyrics.  Its only redeeming quality is that I got a good challenge story out of making fun of it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 09, 2019, 05:35:28 PM
I would have to say that my least favorites are Shining Star and PDA. I can see what you mean about She's A Dream. It's not a horrible song, just not a song for them. I could see some R&B singer, like idk Ne-yo maybe, singing that song instead.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 09, 2019, 05:47:54 PM
How are you guys feeling about the Grammys? I'm actually starting to get a better feeling that they might win. A lot of people have been saying that they think cause BTS is presenting, that they might be presenting to BSB.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 05:51:52 PM
I would have to say that my least favorites are Shining Star and PDA. I can see what you mean about She's A Dream. It's not a horrible song, just not a song for them. I could see some R&B singer, like idk Ne-yo maybe, singing that song instead.

Those two are among my least favorites as well.  I agree about She's a Dream - it would at least fit better with an R&B artist singing it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 05:52:50 PM
How are you guys feeling about the Grammys? I'm actually starting to get a better feeling that they might win. A lot of people have been saying that they think cause BTS is presenting, that they might be presenting to BSB.

I saw that article you retweeted.  How awesome and perfect would that be?!  I'm so excited!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 09, 2019, 08:07:45 PM
I have always detested Iíll Never Break Your Heart but I agree about Sheís a Dream. Also The Scissors song lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 09, 2019, 08:23:57 PM
I'll Never Break My Heart is one of my least favorite of the singles.  It's not a bad song... just boring. 

I knew you were going to say The Scissors!  I actually love that song (This Is Us).  It's one of the redeeming tracks off that album for me.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 10, 2019, 02:53:22 AM
I think a lot of why I dislike INBYH is because of the incredibly cheesy dialogue at the beginning and how boring it is on the whole. It used to be my sit down song, after standing for the entire show Iíd use that song to sit and take a break!

Ah, the scissors song. If it makes This is Us feel any better, I thought AJ was singing that he had no nose after Ďwho are you the sex policeí my sexy has no nose 😳 lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 10, 2019, 02:57:54 AM
How are you guys feeling about the Grammys? I'm actually starting to get a better feeling that they might win. A lot of people have been saying that they think cause BTS is presenting, that they might be presenting to BSB.

I hope the guys arenít seeing all the hype surrounding this. Iíd hate for them to get their hopes way up, but man...that would be awesome. Iím not sure why thatís a tie in? Are they huge BSB fans or something? I know nothing about those guys. I donít think Iíve ever heard a song by them or anything. Iím very out of the loop lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 10, 2019, 10:07:53 AM
I think a lot of why I dislike INBYH is because of the incredibly cheesy dialogue at the beginning and how boring it is on the whole. It used to be my sit down song, after standing for the entire show Iíd use that song to sit and take a break!

Ah, the scissors song. If it makes This is Us feel any better, I thought AJ was singing that he had no nose after Ďwho are you the sex policeí my sexy has no nose 😳 lol

It's very Boys II Men, 90s R&B for sure!

LOL at "my sexy has no nose!"  That would be the Voldemort version of New Love.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 10, 2019, 10:09:21 AM
I hope the guys arenít seeing all the hype surrounding this. Iíd hate for them to get their hopes way up, but man...that would be awesome. Iím not sure why thatís a tie in? Are they huge BSB fans or something? I know nothing about those guys. I donít think Iíve ever heard a song by them or anything. Iím very out of the loop lol

I don't know of their songs either, but they are a boyband, so that's why it would be fitting - one boyband presenting a Grammy to another, who helped pave the way for them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 10, 2019, 11:16:51 PM
I have a really bad love for She's a Dream. It's a guilty pleasure. The lyrics are crap but the harmonies on that song are gold.

My least favorite BSB song ever...is probably Set Adrift on Memory Bliss. That song is just so boring to me LOL. I never listen to it. That and Lose It All.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 11, 2019, 12:40:32 AM
Least favorite song? I'd have to agree. Set Adrift On Memory Bliss. Puts me to sleep. Boring.

Favorite song?

Depends on my mood. Most of the time it's 10,000 Promises. Sometimes it's That's The Way I Like It and then others it's As Long As You Love Me. If that makes any sense haha.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 11, 2019, 03:04:46 AM
Well, the boys didnít win, but they looked like they really enjoyed just being there in the moment again. Being forced to watch the first few minutes though, made me think of a good question. How many of these artists do you think wouldnít make it past round one of either the voice or American Idol?

Iíve often thought about this after hearing some of these people perform. Like Post Malone for example, just yikes! Even established artists like JLo wouldnít stand a chance if all she had to stand on was her singing ability. Same with the girl who hosted that boy band reality show that Nick was on. My point is, there are very few singers who can actually sing lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on February 11, 2019, 09:04:30 AM
Itís very sad that the grammy doesnít want to give a trophy to them!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 11, 2019, 03:57:17 PM
Aww update on Gil and Dave. They will definitely be performing their song on the Oscars where, just like BSB, they will also lose to Lady Gaga lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 11, 2019, 05:24:05 PM
Set Adrift used to be a skip song for me, but it actually grew on me over the years.  It's a little boring, but I don't mind it now.  It's a nice Brian song.

It had been a LONG time since I'd bothered watching The Grammy's.  I'm sure the last time I watched was the last time the Boys were there; I just can't remember if that was in 2001, or if they presented or performed more recently than that.  I was glad their category was presented first so I didn't have to keep watching, LOL.  I didn't see Post Malone's or JLo's performance, but JLo isn't all that great of a singer.  A lot of pop singers are better entertainers than actual singers.  Then there's Lady Gaga - I did catch her performance, and she really can sing, but what the hell was she doing while she was singing?!  I actually like her music and think she is talented, but she is so freaking weird LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 11, 2019, 05:25:30 PM
Aww update on Gil and Dave. They will definitely be performing their song on the Oscars where, just like BSB, they will also lose to Lady Gaga lol

Oh great!  Now that I will watch all the way through.  Damn Lady Gaga!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 11, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Lol I bounced after the Boys lost. I was thankful they did that category early. I don't have the patience for award shows that I used to.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 11, 2019, 06:17:41 PM
I like the acting awards better than the music ones.  I don't know why because a lot of times I haven't seen most of the movies or shows that are nominated, but I still like watching.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 11, 2019, 07:22:44 PM
Iím the same. Actually the only awards I donít enjoy are the Grammys for some reason. I think my favorites are the Emmy Awards and the Tonys. I usually only watch the Oscars if I managed to see at least a few of the nominated movies or ya know...if someone I know is nominated I guess lol

Iíve had friends nominated for several Grammys and emmys but they are usually the categories that are done before the telecast except for when Susan was nominated for best new artist which was probably the last time I watched the Grammy awards. That was the year BSB was nominated for all those awards for Millennium but I wasnít really invested in them yet, although I was getting there. I was disappointed they didnít win anything.

Oh and yes, I agree. Lady Gaga is weird! Sheís incredibly talented but so odd I canít get on the bandwagon.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 11, 2019, 10:01:56 PM
Yea, its hard to watch the Grammys when you don't know who most of the singers/musicians are anymore LOL I kept asking my 13y/o who people were. She didn't know, but she isn't into music as much. My 10y/o who is more into music probably knew who a lot of them were lol but she was over at her grandparents.

I agree on the whole lady gaga thing, she is very talented but weird (though she has toned it down a lot in the past couple years) so I was never really into her either. But weird is what sells these days I guess. For most other singers they need to be "weird" in order to distract from them not being very talented. 

I feel the Grammys are more about performances/tributes than the actual awards. Like they only show a handful of awards compared to how many there actually are.

I feel acting award shows just seem more idk calm/mature, if that even makes any sense lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: julilly on February 15, 2019, 09:07:05 PM
I just watched A Star is Born and I'd probably give Gaga all the awards right now too. It was good.

On another note... I haven't listened to the new album. I've had lots of opportunity to (two 7 hour drives in three days) but I haven't even really listened to much music lately so the interest just isn't there. I usually have an audiobook or a podcast on when I'm commuting and what music I do listen to is alt rock.  :goldfish:


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 16, 2019, 08:09:30 AM
Iím always jealous of people who can listen to audiobooks while driving. I canít do it. I get so involved in the story I canít concen on anything else.

I havenít seen A Star is Born. I have a feeling I wouldnít really enjoy it,
even though I love Bradley Cooper. Iím just curious to know who dies at the end lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 16, 2019, 10:12:18 PM
Iím always jealous of people who can listen to audiobooks while driving. I canít do it. I get so involved in the story I canít concen on anything else.

I havenít seen A Star is Born. I have a feeling I wouldnít really enjoy it,
even though I love Bradley Cooper. Iím just curious to know who dies at the end lol

I was underwhelmed by A Star is Born.  It wasn't a bad movie; the acting was good, and the music was great.  The storyline just reminded me of every Mary Sue "Backstreet Boy randomly discovers aspiring singer and makes her a star" fanfic I've ever read.  But the music really is good, so you might like it for that.

Spoiler alert: As for who dies at the end...
Bradley Cooper hangs himself.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 17, 2019, 03:38:18 AM
The story just doesn't interest me at all. I don't know, I have no urge to see A Star Is Born.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 17, 2019, 04:09:06 AM
I adore Lady Gaga but I did not have a urge to see the movie.

However my mom and I went to see the anniversary edition of Dirty Dancing (I'd never seen the full movie before) and that was fun. AMC had a special two night showing so I bought tickets. It was fun when they started clapping in the movie when Johnny and Baby dance at the end because everyone in the theater started clapping and cheering too. My mom loved that and the behind the scenes documentary they showed in the beginning.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 17, 2019, 05:39:59 AM
Iíve never had the desire to see Dirty Dancing either. 

I know this is a shocker, but Iím not a fan of romance 😮 lol

In fact, I honestly canít think of even one purely romantic drama that I have enjoyed. I can name theee rom-coms: My Best Friendís Wedding, Ever After and The Princess Bride, but nothing else. Except musicals I guess, where pretty much all of them have at least some Mary Sue elements.

I never saw the other two versions of A Star is Born either. As far as Gaga, sheís incredibly talented but Iím not a fan of her stuff popwise. I do really enjoy Shallow though. I think my favorite version of her was the jazz one with Tony B. No weird stuff, just her and her talent.





Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 17, 2019, 05:40:40 AM
I was underwhelmed by A Star is Born.  It wasn't a bad movie; the acting was good, and the music was great.  The storyline just reminded me of every Mary Sue "Backstreet Boy randomly discovers aspiring singer and makes her a star" fanfic I've ever read.  But the music really is good, so you might like it for that.

Spoiler alert: As for who dies at the end...
Bradley Cooper hangs himself.


Thank you! lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 17, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
I LOVE Dirty Dancing!  I prefer romantic dramas to romantic comedies (shocker).  I generally hate romcoms, with the exception of a few (My Best Friend's Wedding, The Wedding Singer, The Princess Bride).  I want to see that new Rebel Wilson movie that makes fun of them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 17, 2019, 03:02:54 PM
Romantic comedy is the only way I can handle romance lol

Romance never was my favorite genre of anything depending on the movie...but if I had to pick a favorite romantic comedy it would be 50 First Dates... I also love Blast From The Past, and there's a couple others I can't think of. I love comedy films.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 18, 2019, 02:41:19 AM
I'm so picky with romances. I can't believe some of you guys had never seen Dirty Dancing though! My mom loved Patrick Swayze. We had every movie he'd ever done in my house lol. In fact she used to say she got why I got so excited about BSB/Nick cause she was a big fan of Swayze. Now Dirty Dancing gives me fond memories of my mom and I watching it randomly together.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 18, 2019, 03:42:57 AM
Iím super picky about movies in general. Iím not really a super huge movie fan. Iíve managed to avoid many movies that everyone has seen. Iíve never seen Footloose, Raiders of the Lost Ark, or any James Bond or those stupid Fast and Furious movies either. Iím sure thereís more that everyoneís seen that I have not lol

I was just talking about this topic to my band kids on Thursday. We are playing Do Re Ni from the Sound of Music and a few of them have never seen it! I feel like thatís a parenting flaw of some kind. Itís impossible to miss it. Itís on all the time lol Iíve made it required watching.

Itís nice Dirty Dancing makes you think of your mom.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 18, 2019, 04:10:17 PM
My sister adores the Fast and Furious movies and thinks is a tragedy I only saw the first one. I think I watched part of the second and gave up cause I thought it was dumb LOL. Her and I basically have an agreement that I won't make fun of her movies if she doesn't make fun of BSB. Since several of my siblings grew up in the 80s, I ended up well versed on those like Goonies, Footloose, Revenge of the Nerds, etc. It's kind of funny cause I think I've seen more 80s movies than 90s movies because of it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 18, 2019, 04:35:53 PM
Omg I LOVE Dirty Dancing too!! (like its probably in my top 5 movies) They did do an "updated" musical version of it that starred Abigail Breslin, I thought it was pretty good (not as good as the original lol but good for a musical version)

Rom-coms these days aren't as good as they used to be (late 90s/early 2000s have a few of good ones). That one with Rebel Wilson making fun of them looks pretty funny.  I don't watch them all the times, but they can be a guilty pleasure once in a while.


I think I like a lot of 80s/90s movies more then a lot of what's coming out these days. Which is probably why there are so many remakes of movies these days. Everyone loves the classics so lets try to remake every single one of them. Its getting a little ridiculous with remakes and making so many sequels/prequals to stuff (fyi-they are making ANOTHER one of those fast and furious movie LOL)




Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on February 18, 2019, 05:10:20 PM
Agreed on all the remakes. Like stop! Come up with new ideas! I do enjoy the Marvel movies, my dad is a huge comic book fan so it's been our thing since the first Iron Man movie came out.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 18, 2019, 05:20:38 PM
Omg I LOVE Dirty Dancing too!! (like its probably in my top 5 movies) They did do an "updated" musical version of it that starred Abigail Breslin, I thought it was pretty good (not as good as the original lol but good for a musical version)

Rom-coms these days aren't as good as they used to be (late 90s/early 2000s have a few of good ones). That one with Rebel Wilson making fun of them looks pretty funny.  I don't watch them all the times, but they can be a guilty pleasure once in a while.


I think I like a lot of 80s/90s movies more then a lot of what's coming out these days. Which is probably why there are so many remakes of movies these days. Everyone loves the classics so lets try to remake every single one of them. Its getting a little ridiculous with remakes and making so many sequels/prequals to stuff (fyi-they are making ANOTHER one of those fast and furious movie LOL)

I love Abigail Breslin, but I did not like that Dirty Dancing remake at all.  But let's be honest - it's really all about Patrick Swayze, and he is irreplaceable.  My mom always loved him too and introduced me to Dirty Dancing as a little girl, when all the inappropriate stuff went right over my head.  I just loved it for the dancing and music.

80s movies are the best!  I hate most of the remakes, but I am excited that they're making a new TV series of Stephen King's The Stand.  The old miniseries from the 90s has a great cast, but it's so cheesy... I've always wanted to see that updated!  The remake of It was fantastic, too.  But there are a lot more bad remakes than good ones.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on February 18, 2019, 08:00:51 PM
I love war movies and natural disaster movies like: saving private Ryan, windtalkers, volcano, danteís peak, 2012


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: julilly on February 18, 2019, 09:26:01 PM
I was underwhelmed by A Star is Born.  It wasn't a bad movie; the acting was good, and the music was great.  The storyline just reminded me of every Mary Sue "Backstreet Boy randomly discovers aspiring singer and makes her a star" fanfic I've ever read.  But the music really is good, so you might like it for that.

Spoiler alert: As for who dies at the end...
Bradley Cooper hangs himself.


Having seen the previous versions of the movie, I went into it fully prepared for the plot, which may have made a difference. Itís just the cause of death that changes between the versions lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 18, 2019, 10:16:37 PM
Having seen the previous versions of the movie, I went into it fully prepared for the plot, which may have made a difference. Itís just the cause of death that changes between the versions lol

Yeah, that's true.  I had never seen any of the previous versions.  I knew the gist of what it was going to be about, and it is what it is.  I probably would have enjoyed it more if I hadn't been jaded by BSB fanfic LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 21, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on February 21, 2019, 06:08:44 PM
I write reply on this topic, but no one see it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 21, 2019, 06:13:34 PM
I saw your post about the movies you like.  Is that what you mean, or is there something else we missed?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 23, 2019, 03:13:07 AM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?

I would take negative feedback over no feedback but only if it came in the form of constructive criticism. Iím not a fan of ďThat sucked!Ē Unless you tell me why. I was pretty lucky in my fanfic writing career to only receive a few negative comments. I always took them with a grain of salt. I admit, the first thing I would do is try to find something they have written and then use that as a gauge to either take their advice or just move on. If they werenít authors themselves I didnít let it bother me at all. But the negative comments came later on. If it was at the start of my writing fanfic, it would have been more damaging to me I think.

I have always been a fan of giving reviews. Initially thatís how I became friends with most of the fanfic authors I know. Any feedback I gave was positive. I could usually find something good to say even if I wasnít really a fan of something happening. If I didnít like something, I was always quick to point out it had more to do with how invested I was in the plot and story and didnít enjoy the direction because of Ďmeí than the actual writing. I hope the authors appreciated that. I know I used to.

One of my biggest pet peeves (besides banners) used to be people who never left feedback.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on February 23, 2019, 10:03:28 PM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?


I would have to say no feedback. Its nice to know what people think of the story, even if it may not be good. I'll take what they say into consideration if its constructive. It doesn't mean I'm going to change what or how I'm writing just for that person though.


If I'm reading something I don't like I'm not going to say anything negative. I know they probably worked hard on it. Like Mare said I might try to find something positive to say. And if the story just really doesn't interest me I wont continue to read it.


Do you think the feedback will be turned back on anytime soon?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 23, 2019, 11:56:40 PM
I agree with you both. I think I'd rather know what people think, even if it's negative, than hear nothing at all.  At least you can learn and grow from constructive criticism.  It's frustrating when you post something you've poured your heart and soul into and get no feedback at all, especially when you know people have read it.

The only time I don't leave feedback is if I try reading a story and don't like it.  If I know I'm not going to stick with it, I don't see the point in telling the author that, unless I'm asked to give an honest opinion.  I follow the Thumper rule of "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all."  When I do give constructive criticism, it is sandwiched between compliments.

I would also love to see reviews turned back on at some point.  There are plenty of other ways of giving feedback, but the review feature made it so convenient!  I know the spam reviews were getting to be a huge problem... I did a search to see if there was a way to solve this problem with the EFiction script, which is what I believe AC uses, and found this forum post with several solutions: https://efiction.org/forums/index.php?topic=9148.msg46422#msg46422  Maybe something the mods and/or Chaos could look into?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on February 24, 2019, 01:32:58 AM
We were on a roll with the conversation for awhile!  I hate to see it die down again now that DNA's been out a few weeks.

Here's a couple fanfic questions for discussion.

Writers: Which is worse, negative feedback or no feedback?

Readers: If you read something you don't like, do you let the author know or say nothing?


I think no feedback at all is worse. I'd rather someone point out what I'm doing wrong or trying to help me than not saying anything. Like I got the hear wrong on my story and Julie was kind enough to point it out. I can take constructive criticism. It took me a long time but I can handle that now.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 24, 2019, 01:45:57 AM
I think the key thing about accepting constructive criticism is understanding that it's meant to be helpful.  I remember once in my early days of writing, a reader pointed out that I had mistakenly used the word "erotically" when I meant "erratically" (like breathing erratically) and that the two words mean very different things, LOL.  I fixed it and learned from that so I would never make that mistake again!  Another time, I had a character with a nosebleed being told by a nurse to tip his head back, and a reader with some medical training told me a nurse would never say that because tipping the head back can make blood run down your throat; he should have tipped his head forward instead.  For all my medical research, that was something I hadn't bothered to fact check, but now I know!  I appreciate people pointing stuff like that out, especially when it's an easy fix.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on February 24, 2019, 04:27:54 AM
Yeah, Iíve bern in the admin section for the last hour and have no clue where to even find that stuff. I think itís more of a Julilly thing. The spam is out of control. Just looking at our new members on the site they are all pretty much bots. Theyíre really hard to stay on top of when they leave reviews etc... itís taken me hours to manually remove them and I know itís taken Julilly the same.

Iíll never get the point of spam bots lol seriously. Does anyone see a penis enlargement review and think I want to click on that?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on February 24, 2019, 02:29:04 PM
LOL I don't get it either.  I know you guys were spending a long time trying to delete them all.  If Julilly's able to figure out where to add the challenge question or require new members to change their password, it sounds like that may cut down on their ability to actually leave spam reviews.  They'll still be able to make an account; they just won't be able to use it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 01, 2019, 08:37:33 PM
Watching Nick's 11+ minute (shirtless) live Twitter video from earlier today made me think about how lucky we are that the Boys have become so accessible.  Even if you haven't been able to meet them yet, social media has made them so much more interactive with fans.  If you had told me 20 years ago that I would actually be able to meet the Backstreet Boys, go on cruises with them, have actual conversations with some of them them, get autographs and pictures with them, etc. etc. etc., I wouldn't have believed it!  Even as a naive, delusional teenybopper, I was realistic enough to realize that I would probably never really meet them.  And now I have a whole wall covered with photos I've taken with them!  We as a fandom are so blessed!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 02, 2019, 07:19:44 AM
Watching Nick's 11+ minute (shirtless) live Twitter video from earlier today made me think about how lucky we are that the Boys have become so accessible.  Even if you haven't been able to meet them yet, social media has made them so much more interactive with fans.  If you had told me 20 years ago that I would actually be able to meet the Backstreet Boys, go on cruises with them, have actual conversations with some of them them, get autographs and pictures with them, etc. etc. etc., I wouldn't have believed it!  Even as a naive, delusional teenybopper, I was realistic enough to realize that I would probably never really meet them.  And now I have a whole wall covered with photos I've taken with them!  We as a fandom are so blessed!

Good god yes. If I went back in time and told 12 year old me everything that'd someday happen, she would've easily called me a liar. We've been so lucky as a fandom and any time I get frustrated with it, or annoyed, I remind myself of that. Cause really, things could've ended up like NSYNC lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 02, 2019, 12:23:33 PM
I am so thankful for the boys not ending up like Nsync because as an Nsync fan I'm still upset we did not fully get closure, not to mention that we will never get a reunion. But hey at least there is merch that I can buy cause 14 year old me wasn't allowed to have it then haha


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 02, 2019, 03:36:30 PM
We definitely picked the best boyband!  No offense to the NSYNC fans.

Speaking of other boybands, have you seen NKOTB's new music video?  It's an ode to the history of boybands, and it's so cute!  Great idea for a video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvOPoQrtFGI


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 02, 2019, 06:05:56 PM
I didnít watch his entire Twitter live because it kept freezing on me, but I love that when heís bored it seems to be the fans he talks to. Itís so weird how accessible these artists have become to their fans.

How do you think youíd do as a celebrity in the age of social media? Would you constantly let your fans in like bsb do? Would you charge fans to meet you? Would you take selfies with people?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 02, 2019, 10:58:16 PM
Yeah, that is cute!  You didn't really miss much; it was mostly shout-outs to fans, and he and Howie signed some shoes for a fan who came up to them.  I watched the whole thing though, plus the other one he did in his hotel room, LOL.

Those are good questions.  Honestly, I've never had a desire to be famous; I am not a people person and try to avoid human interaction as much as possible outside of my job (where I interact with people all day long, ironically LOL), so it's hard for me to answer.  I could see myself being the super private, reclusive type of celebrity because of that.  But on the other hand, I am a nice person who enjoys making people happy when I can, so I do think I would take selfies and sign autographs for fans.  I understand why celebrities charge fans for photo ops and meet-and-greets.  It may seem greedy, but I think it's mostly to control numbers so they can actually spend a few minutes with each fan, as opposed to being overwhelmed by a swarm of people and not having enough time to get to them all.  The VIPs are already crowded, as are their lines at conventions and things like that, so imagine what it would be like if they didn't charge for those opportunities.  Imagine how exhausting it must be to spend hours taking photos, signing autographs, and letting strangers hug all over you.  I know they appreciate us, but that has to get old.  It's part of the job, though, so they might as well be compensated for it.

Did you watch their concert in Chile from the other night, Mare?  If not, it's on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOYvNXjyweM  It's pretty much the same show they do in Vegas.  I love when we get professional recordings of concerts!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 03, 2019, 04:43:11 AM
I think my answer would be along the lines of yours. I would try not to charge crazy amounts but I do agree you have to charge something to control the numbers. What I really liked about Andrew Lincoln is the fact that he wasn't a fan of cons or charging fans but he did the Walking Dead one in Atlanta as a thank you since they filmed there. All the money he made went directly to charity. So it controlled the numbers yet it went to a good cause.

Or like how Nick did that toy drive event here in Vegas. It was literally like any meet and greet I'd been to on his solo tours. Plenty of time, able to chat, get photos, but literally 20$. I'd probably do things like that mixed in with regular M&Gs.

Janet Jackson has her Vegas residency, the description for her VIP is virtually the same as BSB one and she's charging 1,500$. Not even including a ticket. Lady Gaga's is around 2,500$. It's nuts.

Social media seems like a great way to connect with your fans and show appreciation with little risk. I think Kevin and Nick are the best about that.

I saw the NKOTB video! The song is pretty meh but the video was funny LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 03, 2019, 07:07:04 AM
Thanks for posting the concert video! Since I wasnít able to make it to a Vegas show, itíll be nice to see it. Hopefully someone will post a full video of their DNA tour since I wonít be able to do that either. 😕

I would be one of those people that fans would either love me or hate me. I am pretty introverted. I also am pretty sure I was one of those undiagnosed kids who are on the autism spectrum. If aspergers was a thing when I was growing up, Iím pretty sure I wouldíve been diagnosed with that. I hate physical contact. Getting hugged or people touching me, not a good thing so Iíd probably be miserable at these meet and greets or people wanting selfies etc... I try my hardest not to cringe when my little students come at me for a hug or when parents ask me to pose with their kids for a picture. 😳

I think those intimate things the guys used to do for charities were great. Paying for an event and then hanging with them all day for charity. I am not a fan of paying a tremendous amount of money just for a picture and a quick hello. I get why people do it though. Kind of like standing in line at the mall for hours to get a picture with Santa or the Easter bunny.

I think itís incredibly obnoxious to charge the amount those two are asking for and omg the ticket prices for that Aerosmith tour. I hate to break it to you people, but youíre not that special. No one is lol unless youíre going to come home with me, clean my house, go grocery shopping and do some heavy lifting, just no! Youíre just people. Have fifteen tentacles and come from the planet Zorb then maybe.

I actually did see the NKOTB video and had to laugh because it was such a stereotypicall y horrible boy band song from  a stereotypicall y bad boy band. Itís everything I hate about boy bands in one video, including the obligatory horrid rapping lol good lord! Iím not sure why Boys to Men were in there. Just leave them and BSB out of your homage to awfulness. I have strong feelings lol loved that Deborah was in the video too.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 11:17:12 AM
Cracking up at your review of the NKOTB video, Mare!

I'm not a huggy, touchy-feely person either.  I don't mind hugs, but I'm not usually the one to initiate them.  I would not enjoy getting hugged and touched all the time by total strangers.  The Boys have become very tolerant with that kind of stuff - god bless them, LOL.

Those prices for Janet Jackson, Lady Gaga, etc. are ridiculous!  I think BSB charging $500 for their VIP is ridiculous too, considering we've gotten more for way less on past tours.  I won't pay that kind of money.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on March 03, 2019, 02:45:21 PM
I think I've caught most of the interviews.  It still surprises me that they are all in agreement over If You Want It To Be Good Girl being their WORST song.  Really?!  It's a stupid song, don't get me wrong, but it's also catchy and fun.  I love it!  They have definitely recorded much worse, some of which they put on their albums!

What do you think is the worst officially released BSB song?  I'd have to go with She's a Dream.  I hate everything about that song, from the music/melody to the stupid Shorty lyrics.  Its only redeeming quality is that I got a good challenge story out of making fun of it.

I can't stand She's A Dream, it's just awful.  There are a few others I'm not keen on either, but that's the worst


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on March 03, 2019, 02:53:58 PM
I shamelessly love that NKOTB video and song. LOL.

I think it's cool that the guys are so accessible now. Back when I was a kid it seemed impossible and almost like they weren't human at times. There was seemingly no way to get in touch with them or even figure out how. In 1998 my dad was high up at our airport and tried to figure out a way that me and my sister could meet the boys when they came to town for our show. But even that didn't work out (and I didn't find out that he'd tried that until years later, actually). Compare to now, people meet them in airports constantly, and provided you have the money it's easy to get a m&g ticket. Even with twitter it is relatively easy to get the boys attention if you want it.

However, I think the accessibility has its own issues. I don't follow many BSB fans anymore, but some of the guys in 1D reply to their indirects and it is the most annoying thing in the universe. For one, it fills up my timeline with "niall, how is your acid reflux doing today?!?!" and other such nonsense. It also fosters this idea that they're somehow our friend? I've seen lots of people say they consider Niall or Louis or whoever their best friend. It creeps me out tbh.

I thought that BSB walked the line really well in the Unbreakable era. M&g was a reasonable price, and you got the soundcheck with it. That was a bit before Twitter took off, so there was none of that and there was still reasonable separation between fan and band. Don't get me wrong, I like twitter and I like seeing updates on how music is going and that kind of behind the scenes stuff. But when it becomes this weird competition, it loses some of its fun and some of the magic is gone.

Also those prices for Janet Jackson and Lady Gaga are ridiculous lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on March 03, 2019, 03:00:52 PM
I'd never pay those kind of prices to meet someone famous, it's ridiculous!  I'd also never pay for BSB meet and greets either as they are too expensive.  If money was no problem I would though 😊

I've not heard NKOTB's new song, didn't realise they were still around


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 03, 2019, 03:38:04 PM
I shamelessly love that NKOTB video and song. LOL.

I think it's cool that the guys are so accessible now. Back when I was a kid it seemed impossible and almost like they weren't human at times. There was seemingly no way to get in touch with them or even figure out how. In 1998 my dad was high up at our airport and tried to figure out a way that me and my sister could meet the boys when they came to town for our show. But even that didn't work out (and I didn't find out that he'd tried that until years later, actually). Compare to now, people meet them in airports constantly, and provided you have the money it's easy to get a m&g ticket. Even with twitter it is relatively easy to get the boys attention if you want it.

However, I think the accessibility has its own issues. I don't follow many BSB fans anymore, but some of the guys in 1D reply to their indirects and it is the most annoying thing in the universe. For one, it fills up my timeline with "niall, how is your acid reflux doing today?!?!" and other such nonsense. It also fosters this idea that they're somehow our friend? I've seen lots of people say they consider Niall or Louis or whoever their best friend. It creeps me out tbh.

I thought that BSB walked the line really well in the Unbreakable era. M&g was a reasonable price, and you got the soundcheck with it. That was a bit before Twitter took off, so there was none of that and there was still reasonable separation between fan and band. Don't get me wrong, I like twitter and I like seeing updates on how music is going and that kind of behind the scenes stuff. But when it becomes this weird competition, it loses some of its fun and some of the magic is gone.

Also those prices for Janet Jackson and Lady Gaga are ridiculous lol.

You are so right about artists being too available to their fans via twitter especially. One of the main reasons I stopped following so many fans was because they were creeping me out. It seemed like once one of them tweeted something, everyone on Godís green earth would start joking around with them as if they were old friends or begging for a follow. It would take me forever to scroll through all those posts just to see what my friends were up to.  lol

BSB charge way too much for their VIP and their tickets for Vegas as well. At least the good ones like the tables or real seats. I get maybe GA is cheap but for people like me who canít do it, itís way too much money. I feel like everyone is inflating their ticket prices. Itís gotten pretty obnoxious. I know Iím a cheap ass and should probably spend things on experiences yada yada but I refuse to pay for more than $200 for a concert. Not while I know that money should be going to bills and medicine. My stupid brain wonít allow me to think any other way. Lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 04:52:11 PM
I can't stand She's A Dream, it's just awful.  There are a few others I'm not keen on either, but that's the worst

So funny... I don't know if you guys got the show The Masked Singer in the UK, but (SPOILER ALERT) T-Pain turned out to be the winner.  I knew T-Pain had written a song for BSB, but couldn't remember which one, so I looked it up... and whaddya know, it's the worst song BSB has ever put on an album, She's a Dream!  I actually really liked him on The Masked Singer though!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 05:00:54 PM
I shamelessly love that NKOTB video and song. LOL.

I think it's cool that the guys are so accessible now. Back when I was a kid it seemed impossible and almost like they weren't human at times. There was seemingly no way to get in touch with them or even figure out how. In 1998 my dad was high up at our airport and tried to figure out a way that me and my sister could meet the boys when they came to town for our show. But even that didn't work out (and I didn't find out that he'd tried that until years later, actually). Compare to now, people meet them in airports constantly, and provided you have the money it's easy to get a m&g ticket. Even with twitter it is relatively easy to get the boys attention if you want it.

However, I think the accessibility has its own issues. I don't follow many BSB fans anymore, but some of the guys in 1D reply to their indirects and it is the most annoying thing in the universe. For one, it fills up my timeline with "niall, how is your acid reflux doing today?!?!" and other such nonsense. It also fosters this idea that they're somehow our friend? I've seen lots of people say they consider Niall or Louis or whoever their best friend. It creeps me out tbh.

I thought that BSB walked the line really well in the Unbreakable era. M&g was a reasonable price, and you got the soundcheck with it. That was a bit before Twitter took off, so there was none of that and there was still reasonable separation between fan and band. Don't get me wrong, I like twitter and I like seeing updates on how music is going and that kind of behind the scenes stuff. But when it becomes this weird competition, it loses some of its fun and some of the magic is gone.

Also those prices for Janet Jackson and Lady Gaga are ridiculous lol.

Aww, that is so cute that your dad tried so hard to help you meet them!  The things dads will do for their daughters...  My dad manages a store at one of the local malls, so he used to dutifully pick up the new albums that I had pre-ordered at Sam Goody on release day for me.  He also went to a BSB concert, a Nick solo show, and a Brian solo show solely out of love for me LOL.

Nick can get annoying with his tweeting sprees replying to fans, too.  The other day when he was so bored, it took me forever just to scroll through my BSB list because of all of his replies.  He's sweet for taking the time to do that, but it also just encourages people to beg for his attention even more.

I agree, Unbreakable was the best as far as VIP goes.  That's when you could still win the soundcheck party too.  The only negatives were the barrier and no Kevin.  I wish they would go back to how they did it for This is Us and IAWLT, with the different levels, some of which were pretty reasonably priced.  Seeing the soundcheck was my favorite part!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
You are so right about artists being too available to their fans via twitter especially. One of the main reasons I stopped following so many fans was because they were creeping me out. It seemed like once one of them tweeted something, everyone on Godís green earth would start joking around with them as if they were old friends or begging for a follow. It would take me forever to scroll through all those posts just to see what my friends were up to.  lol

BSB charge way too much for their VIP and their tickets for Vegas as well. At least the good ones like the tables or real seats. I get maybe GA is cheap but for people like me who canít do it, itís way too much money. I feel like everyone is inflating their ticket prices. Itís gotten pretty obnoxious. I know Iím a cheap ass and should probably spend things on experiences yada yada but I refuse to pay for more than $200 for a concert. Not while I know that money should be going to bills and medicine. My stupid brain wonít allow me to think any other way. Lol

Lists are my best friend on Twitter!  It takes too long to get through my entire timeline, so I have lists of people whose tweets I actually care to read.

One thing I will never get is the people who spend so much time and energy begging the Boys to follow them.  Do they actually think they will become friends with the guys if they follow them?  Nick has followed so many fans, there's no way he can possibly read all their tweets.  He just reads and replies at random when he's bored.  But I guess at least we know it's really Nick.  Remember all the posers there used to be on AIM?  People would legit think they were IMing with Backstreet Boys, LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 03, 2019, 05:23:34 PM
I remember that! So many imposter Nicks Lol

I never thought to make a list. You know for as long as Iíve been on Twitter, I still donít totally get it and havenít really explored it all that much. I donít get the begging for follows either or people begging for people just in case Nick doesnít see the original beggars, so now you have beggars begging for beggars. What I really donít get are the people who complain about Nick or any of the others but still beg for follows. That is just confusing. I hate you but I love you!

Again, I do get how maybe a tweet can make someoneís day but there are a lot of really crazy people out there that mistake those random tweets for friendship. Especially if it happens more than once. That would be another way Iíd be a horrible celebrity. I doubt Iíd ever follow my fans or reply to them. I just hate people too much lol 😳


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 03, 2019, 05:57:27 PM
Lists are great!  I have a list for just the Boys and their wives, a list for my friends, a list for Cubs players, a list for Walking Dead actors, etc.  When I'm trying to catch up on the important stuff and don't feel like scrolling through my full timeline, it makes it easier to sort through and only see the tweets I actually care about.

Even as adults, some BSB fans are still pretty delusional!

I came on here to link you to this video, Mare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2y1__5_To  I just watched it on Rose's blog.  It's the guys singing This Is Us, and AJ does "the scissors, the scissors" complete with hand gestures during the second chorus, LOL.  Either I have never seen this before or just never noticed that part because I don't tend to focus on AJ when Brian and Nick are in the same frame LOL, but he's totally on the same page with you.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 04, 2019, 12:21:34 AM
Hm. I think if I were famous I'd still be active on social media. I do love seeing those peeks into the boys lives like when they share videos of their kids or pets. Those are great. It makes them seem more human to me.

I get annoyed with Nick sometimes during those follow sprees but be follows most of the people I follow LOL

I still get paranoid about what I tweet sometimes because he's replied to me without me tagging him before so I know he does read his timeline on occasion.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on March 04, 2019, 05:06:46 AM
Lists are great!  I have a list for just the Boys and their wives, a list for my friends, a list for Cubs players, a list for Walking Dead actors, etc.  When I'm trying to catch up on the important stuff and don't feel like scrolling through my full timeline, it makes it easier to sort through and only see the tweets I actually care about.

Even as adults, some BSB fans are still pretty delusional!

I came on here to link you to this video, Mare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2y1__5_To  I just watched it on Rose's blog.  It's the guys singing This Is Us, and AJ does "the scissors, the scissors" complete with hand gestures during the second chorus, LOL.  Either I have never seen this before or just never noticed that part because I don't tend to focus on AJ when Brian and Nick are in the same frame LOL, but he's totally on the same page with you.

Lol nice to see AJ gets it too! Enunciate boys!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 04, 2019, 07:32:36 AM
I never noticed AJ doing that and now I gotta rewatch it just for that. Poor AJ, if Nick is in frame my focus is always him lmao.

Honestly I don't get the asking for tweets/follows. Nick follows me but that was random as hell. I tweeted like, a thank you for being sweet to fans. Next thing I knew he was following me. Or like asking for birthday tweets. I've gotten them, but I've never tweeted him specifically about my bday or anything so I'm not quite sure how he knew LOL.

The Nick following is such a double edged sword. Like it's cool and sometimes I've tweeted jokes with friends and Nick's jumped in on the convo once or twice cause he follows us both. But it's made me very aware of what I tweet, which sucks cause I don't want him to accidentally see it and think I'm nuts LOL. At least with Howie he's barely on twitter so I don't care as much.

Kevin tweets a lot of fans but he doesn't follow any, and he's said on twitter it's because he wants to be fair. I think that's a good move. He sees a lot cause he's liked tweets that I don't tag him in on the TDS twitter so I feel like he has lists himself LOL but doesn't get his timeline clogged by following fans.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on March 04, 2019, 01:47:04 PM
I must start using Twitter again, not been on there for years!  But I can just imagine the nutty fans begging for tweets lol.  Kevin has the right idea I suppose, better to follow no fans than have begs for follows


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 04, 2019, 02:11:29 PM
Me the Backstreet boys follow me on Twitter, but I wish Brian can send me just a little hello, but he doesnít respond to fans.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 04, 2019, 06:24:28 PM
Brian only responds to selective fans... mainly just one.  Nick and Kevin reply randomly.  Howie and AJ don't really seem to tweet fans at all, at least from what I see.  They can't please everyone, but either replying randomly or not following fans at all seems to be the fairest way to do it.

The BSB account follows me, but I don't think it's usually any of the Boys tweeting from that account, so I don't worry about that one.  I honestly don't want any of the guys following me on the off chance that they might see one of my tweets about my weird, inappropriate fanfics.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 04, 2019, 07:27:18 PM
I know for Brian for the selective fans and you are the best for the fanfics. I really hope to write with you again someday!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 04, 2019, 10:13:32 PM
Thank you! :)  I enjoyed writing with you, but I'm not looking to start another new project anytime soon.  I'm trying to stick to one story at a time.  Do you have any stories in progress?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 04, 2019, 11:10:25 PM
You are welcome! I love so much youíre new fanfic! I have one, but my health is not good right now, so it is difficult to write.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 04, 2019, 11:14:07 PM
I've gotten tweets from all the boys but AJ. I hate the begging but usually I'll just tweet them random stuff and see if they reply lol that's how Nick responds usually. I'll tweet him something strange and that will get a response, but if I beg be doesn't answer
Kinda odd how that works.

When Brian was active on twitter I have gotten replies from him, and I got one sort of like the other week when I tweeted a Frick and Frack picture. My friend and I had a conversation and he replied to both of us. I still got excited even though technically it wasn't "to" me.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 05, 2019, 01:04:59 AM
You are lucky to have replies from Brian! He is my hero since I discovered the group


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on March 05, 2019, 03:22:14 AM
Back when Brian replied more randomly to fans, I got replies. Like when my twitter was new LOL.

These days he keeps himself on IG.

AJ is really...odd. Like twitter wise, I don't know.

What I've learned through my fan accounts is turn off your notifications if a Backstreet Boy happens to retweet you. The first time that happened, I think it was Kevin. My phone blew up and I was so confused till I figured out what happened lmao. I think it got over a thousand likes or something. It was nuts. I don't get how any BSB can sort out replies within all that, which is why I roll my eyes at fans who complain they're ignored if they don't get a reply.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 05, 2019, 08:24:37 PM
You are welcome! I love so much youíre new fanfic! I have one, but my health is not good right now, so it is difficult to write.

Thank you!  I'm sorry to hear that; I bet that does make it difficult.  I hope things improve with your health soon!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 05, 2019, 08:27:49 PM
I've gotten tweets from all the boys but AJ. I hate the begging but usually I'll just tweet them random stuff and see if they reply lol that's how Nick responds usually. I'll tweet him something strange and that will get a response, but if I beg be doesn't answer
Kinda odd how that works.

That actually makes total sense to me.  If I were him, I would intentionally ignore the ones begging so as not to reward that obnoxious behavior and reply to one of the normal, polite ones instead.  It's kinda like the teacher move of ignoring the kid who's jumping up out of their seat going "Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!" and calling on the kid who's sitting quietly with their hand raised instead, LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 05, 2019, 10:01:44 PM
Yeah there was one time where everybody was tweeting Nick about the Christmas shows they were doing that year. So I said I can't go I gotta make the tacos at work, someone has to. He replies with "mmm tacos"

Another time I tweeted Brian that I was going to sleep and he was just waking up so he tells me to go to bed.

I feel like they like to respond to random stuff rather than  omg tweet me or l will die!!!!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 05, 2019, 10:37:23 PM
RokofAges75: you are welcome! I donít think so I have a degenerative illness


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on March 05, 2019, 10:38:54 PM
So sorry to hear that! :(


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 05, 2019, 11:23:38 PM
RokofAges75: thanks


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2019, 01:05:06 AM
Sorry to hear about your health. I hope things get better for you.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on March 06, 2019, 01:19:17 AM
Thank you


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Post by: Rose on March 06, 2019, 02:35:20 AM
Yeah there was one time where everybody was tweeting Nick about the Christmas shows they were doing that year. So I said I can't go I gotta make the tacos at work, someone has to. He replies with "mmm tacos"

Another time I tweeted Brian that I was going to sleep and he was just waking up so he tells me to go to bed.

I feel like they like to respond to random stuff rather than  omg tweet me or l will die!!!!!

Literally my tweeting life most days. Sometimes I tweet nice things, like today to let them know as a fan, I appreciate what they do.


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Post by: Rose on March 06, 2019, 02:35:45 AM
RokofAges75: you are welcome! I donít think so I have a degenerative illness

I hope things change for the better for you.


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Post by: FrickingKaos on March 06, 2019, 07:44:38 AM
Literally my tweeting life most days. Sometimes I tweet nice things, like today to let them know as a fan, I appreciate what they do.

I feel that they appreciate those tweets more than the ones begging for a tweet or follow. Because they should know how much we appreciate them. I love to tell them how much they helped me and inspire me daily. I feel like the encouragement is good for them.


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Post by: mare on March 06, 2019, 08:58:27 AM
I have to say that my very first fandom obsession who I have loved  long before the Backstreet Boys replied to one of my tweets last night. So we are now either BFFs or he might be madly in love with me, I havenít figured out which one yet. BSB better step up their game is all Iím saying. Lol 🤭


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Post by: Carter-Orange on March 06, 2019, 02:00:58 PM
Well done Mare for getting a tweet from your first fandom love :)

They've never liked anything of mine, but then again I'm not on Twitter and my Instagram is private, so I can't expect anything lol.  But Lauren liked one of my comments on her Instagram


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Post by: Mistral on March 06, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
Rose: thank you


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Post by: mare on March 06, 2019, 04:00:07 PM
RokofAges75: you are welcome! I donít think so I have a degenerative illness

I completely understand. Just do the best you can and I hope you have more good days than bad ones.


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Post by: Mistral on March 06, 2019, 08:32:11 PM
Mare: yes I do my my best and yes I hope Iím gonna have more good days than bad days


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 06, 2019, 11:05:26 PM
I have gotten replies on Twitter from two of my favorites when I was a tween, Lurlene McDaniel and Kel Mitchell, and that was really cool!  In both cases, I wasn't trying to actually talk to them, more just tagging them in a tweet about them, and they saw it and replied!  I always just assume "celebrities" get so many mention they don't have time to actually read them, so it's nice when they actually do notice and respond to some.


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Post by: Mistral on March 07, 2019, 12:18:28 AM
Me I receives couples of replies of my favorite cheerleaders


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Post by: mare on March 07, 2019, 02:58:43 AM
I have gotten replies on Twitter from two of my favorites when I was a tween, Lurlene McDaniel and Kel Mitchell, and that was really cool!  In both cases, I wasn't trying to actually talk to them, more just tagging them in a tweet about them, and they saw it and replied!  I always just assume "celebrities" get so many mention they don't have time to actually read them, so it's nice when they actually do notice and respond to some.

Same. I was just saying how happy I was to see him (Adrian Paul) back on my TV after all these years. Heís on Arrow playing the new big bad villain. I also mentioned how I wiish the lead would find a long lost brother instead of another long lost sister and he replied with sisters sell more tickets...lol

Iím just glad I didnít mention eye candy lol Arrow has gone too female


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Post by: smh1105 on March 09, 2019, 03:51:31 PM
I've been so busy this past week and a half, I feel like I have missed so much on here. lol Work is kicking my butt, but I really need the money. I'm hoping I can get around to writing more of my story too. I feel stuck on it though. Not sure how to write the next part, but I have tons of ideas for later in the story lol


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 09, 2019, 03:57:15 PM
That is always me with writing, too - I have so many ideas for the middle and end of the story, but getting there is the hard part.


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Post by: smh1105 on March 09, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
Exactly, and then sometimes i'll get carried away with writing about every little detail that's not necessary for the story.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 09, 2019, 08:40:06 PM
Ha, guilty of that too!


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Post by: FrickingKaos on March 09, 2019, 11:48:36 PM
I get like that with my writing too. With the story I'm currently working on, I have whole scenes written for chapters that are a long ways off. Lol. The chapter I had just posted, I'd written about a year or so ago before I even was ready to post.

Sometimes that works for me, and then I have to work on filling those gaps. Plus sometimes I get hung up on the ending. So I totally get it.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 10, 2019, 11:27:53 AM
I was going to ask if any of you write ahead and then go back to fill in the gaps.  I've never been able to do that; I pretty much always write my stories in order.


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Post by: FrickingKaos on March 10, 2019, 02:57:08 PM
For most of my stories I do write in order. Just before I decided to add in real events and follow a timeline to make the story realistic, I wrote some scenes to see if I could actually make this work. I'm writing in order now. But sometimes for development purposes I do write a scene ahead of time.


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Post by: smh1105 on March 10, 2019, 08:14:27 PM
I try to write in order, but if I think of a good idea for later in the story I will write a quick outline for it. I try to avoid writing out the whole scene, otherwise I might get distracted and keep writing from that scene on.


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Post by: Rose on March 11, 2019, 06:47:28 AM
I've only done that for an epilogue once, just because I knew exactly how I wanted it to end. I edited it a little bit when I got there but I was glad I kept the idea I'd wanted for it.


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Post by: julilly on March 17, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
LOL I don't get it either.  I know you guys were spending a long time trying to delete them all.  If Julilly's able to figure out where to add the challenge question or require new members to change their password, it sounds like that may cut down on their ability to actually leave spam reviews.  They'll still be able to make an account; they just won't be able to use it.

Our passwords have always been randomly generated. We actually have all the mods we can put on this version of efiction and it just can't block them all. There's been 2300 blocked attempts to start accounts this week thanks to the Bad Behavior mod but just as many that got through.

I have never added the chapter review notice mod because it emails a single address and don't think having every review emailed to Mare and I is really going to help when we still have to manually go in and delete them all.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 17, 2019, 04:24:56 PM
Our passwords have always been randomly generated. We actually have all the mods we can put on this version of efiction and it just can't block them all. There's been 2300 blocked attempts to start accounts this week thanks to the Bad Behavior mod but just as many that got through.

I have never added the chapter review notice mod because it emails a single address and don't think having every review emailed to Mare and I is really going to help when we still have to manually go in and delete them all.

That is so frustrating!  No, the chapter review notice mod doesn't seem very practical if it means you and Mare would have to manually approve or delete every review.  Way too time-consuming!

Is adding a challenge question to the registration process an option?  It was mentioned on that thread I linked a few pages back, but here is another thread with more info on how to do it: https://efiction.org/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=8obo0c3m1nenph742p3gfrmfq3&topic=9121.0  I'm not sure how easy that is to do or if it would work with the version of eFiction you're using.  Just looking for possible solutions to the problem that wouldn't make more work for the mods once set up.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 19, 2019, 06:05:50 PM
Have you guys been watching the BSB 23 Chromosomes episodes?  The one they posted today is called "Albums," and yet it's just Nick talking about This Is Us and a little bit about DNA.  What about all the other albums??  Where are the other boys??  Why are these episodes only a minute long??  I feel cheated! LOL

I would love to know Kevin's honest opinions about the two albums they recorded while he was taking his break.  I know he likes the song Undone, but how does he feel about She's a Dream and PDA?  What's his favorite song on Unbreakable?  They should have interviewed Kevin for this episode!


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Post by: Rose on March 20, 2019, 02:25:43 AM
LOL I felt a bit vindicated. I know I'm rare in that I enjoyed (as a whole) This Is Us more than Never Gone. And it's nice Nick has it as a favorite! (It's not my favorite, that honor belongs to Millennium, but not the point lol.) But I do think they should've expanded.

I've been DYING to get Kevin's opinion on Unbreakable. He talks about STMH, he talks about Undone, and I think If I Knew Then (this one I might be wrong on). But he's never said boo about Unbreakable and I'd love to know his thoughts on it.


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Post by: mare on March 23, 2019, 05:15:42 AM
Those chromosomes episodes have been underwhelming. Itís like they donít fully get what an episode is. Itís more like a commercial than an episode. As soon as they suck me in, itís over. It seems like theyíll each be taking an Ďepisodeí by themselves now since it was only Brian on the last one.

I cringed when Nick mentioned The Scissors. That album is just full of no!

Iíd love to hear Kevinís opinion on everything, I mean...everyth ing lol someone needs to get Kevin drunk and then interview him.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 23, 2019, 12:57:23 PM
I agree; they're too short!!  Something is better than nothing, but still, it wouldn't be that hard to put together a ten minute episode featuring interviews with all five of them.

A drunk Kevin interview would be the best!!


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Post by: Mistral on March 23, 2019, 05:01:47 PM
Have you see the video of Kevin drunk in Montreal?


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 23, 2019, 07:30:47 PM
I don't think so...  Do you have a link?


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Post by: Mistral on March 23, 2019, 07:46:10 PM
Yes! Here the link: https://youtu.be/O3304n-8pqI


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Post by: RokofAges75 on March 23, 2019, 08:06:21 PM
Haha!!  I have seen that before.  Drunk Kevin cracks me up!


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Post by: Mistral on March 23, 2019, 08:11:05 PM
It was at the beginning when they come to Montreal


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 02, 2019, 06:40:20 PM
What's up, everybody?  I hate when we go more than a week without any conversation on here!

Here's some writing questions related to the setting of your stories:

Do you tend to use real settings (real towns, restaurants, etc.) or make them up?  If you use real, are they places you've actually been, or do you have to research?  If you make them up, describe what that process is like.  Do you draw on any real life inspiration?

What have been some of your favorite and least favorite settings to write in your stories?

Do you prefer writing stories that are mostly set in one place or stories with lots of different settings?

Do you have any favorite settings of stories you've read?


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Post by: Mistral on April 02, 2019, 07:20:39 PM
Hi!

Yes I prefer place that I know when I write a story and yes I do a lot of research. I like a lot the hospital place in a story!


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Post by: mare on April 06, 2019, 04:54:04 AM
I donít know why this thread was locked so I reopened it. Commence discussions!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 07, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
Thanks!

As far as setting go, I usually use real settings.  Sometimes I will make up restaurants, bars, etc., but I almost always use real cities/towns and try to write them realistically.  I haven't been to a lot of the cities I end up writing about because of where the Boys live and tour, but that's what the internet is for.  Google Maps is a lifesaver when it comes to researching the look and layout of places.  I'm like Mistral in loving hospital settings too.  Almost all of my novels have at least one hospital scene in them somewhere.

Some of my favorite settings to write were in Song for the Undead.  Most of the story took place at the MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, and Rose and I did a ton of research to write that as accurately as we could.  I had a printed map of the base sitting by my computer for years that I would reference as I wrote scenes for that story.  We also worked in other settings as our characters traveled, including a castle in England.  It was fun to think about different kinds of places our characters could shelter in in the midst of the zombie apocalypse, and the variety made it fun and kept things interesting.

I can't think of a least favorite setting offhand, but I am finding that I prefer stories with multiple settings to stories set in one place.  The one I'm working on now mostly takes place in one room, and that has gotten pretty boring.  I've always had a lot of respect for writers that can write a whole novel or screenplay set in one small place and make it interesting, and this has only reaffirmed that respect.

Along those lines, I loved Mare's use of setting in Hope is the Last Thing Ever Lost.  That whole novel mostly just took place in the Boys' van, Tim's cabin, and the woods between the two, and yet, it was such a gripping page-turner and never got boring.  Save a Prayer by Steph also has a great setting, with the guys trying to survive in the jungle after their plane crashes.  I love settings that are different, not just the usual tour bus or big cities.


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Post by: Mistral on April 07, 2019, 11:42:37 AM
I love youíre fanfic too! You have a real talent to write and your stories are always so good to read!!

Read fanfic always help me to focus on something else when I receive my medical treatment and I have blank page syndrom on my own fanfic right now.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 07, 2019, 12:02:13 PM
Thanks!  Fanfic can be a great distraction.  I hate blank page syndrome! 


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Post by: Mistral on April 07, 2019, 02:47:48 PM
Yes blank page syndrom suck! I cannot wait it stop so I can continue to write!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 09, 2019, 07:29:02 PM
Did everyone hear the Boys are supposedly working on a Christmas album?  I wonder if it will actually be released in time for Christmas this year, or we should assume Backstreet Time will bump it back to Christmas 2020.

Do you prefer covers of classic Christmas songs or original songs on pop Christmas albums?  What classics do you hope they'll record?


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Post by: Mistral on April 09, 2019, 08:01:20 PM
Iím gonna be so happy if they record a christmas album! Classic Christmas songs for me! Feliz navidad is my favorite christmas song.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 09, 2019, 08:09:32 PM
I'm excited it's finally happening!  They've talked about doing a Christmas album so many times, but they sounded serious this time, like it's already in the works.  It's Christmas Time Again is seriously one of my favorite BSB songs (I listen to it all year round), so I hope there are more original songs like that!  As far as classics go, one of my favorites is Do You Hear What I Hear - great song for a group!  I love O Holy Night, Carol of the Bells, and The Little Drummer Boy too.


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Post by: Mistral on April 09, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
Yes carol of the bells!!

I find on amazon the CD for the fans the guys do with burger king and I buy it last weekend!


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Post by: Sakabelle on April 10, 2019, 08:12:54 AM
I would DIE for them to do a Christmas album with more classic songs. I hadn't heard that they were working on that so thank you for sharing!! If they did classic songs I would just... I would die. LOL. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen and O Holy Night in particular. Just putting that into the universe.

As for setting,

Do you tend to use real settings (real towns, restaurants, etc.) or make them up?  If you use real, are they places you've actually been, or do you have to research?  If you make them up, describe what that process is like.  Do you draw on any real life inspiration?
I try to use real places whenever possible and spend an unreasonable amount of time doing research. If I can't use a real place (like, someone's house or whatever) I'll imagine a place that I've been that has a similar vibe I'm going for an build off that. But, Google really helps and it's easily to get a feel for places I've never been to through photos and videos.

What have been some of your favorite and least favorite settings to write in your stories?

Least favourite setting is writing about Florida. I don't know why, maybe I'm just burnt out from so many BSB fics set there. But I don't find it to be that overly interesting of a place to write about.

I also don't particularly enjoy writing about LA, so I keep my fics away from there as much as I can. If I need to use a big city I'll use London now since in real life most of my 1D characters tend to bounce back and forth between London and LA anyway. I do like writing about London, I have been there a few times now and can picture central London and south London quite well and I get the vibe of it. Niall actually lives quite close to where my husband's uncle lives in London, which is where we always stay. So I always just give Niall that house LOL.

Do you prefer writing stories that are mostly set in one place or stories with lots of different settings?

Different settings for sure. It helps me keep the story moving along as the characters move along. Even in AU I've had them in hotels or travelling. I did a backpacker AU and a World Cup AU so that says something about the type of settings I enjoy. I find it hard to naturally find ways to do different types of scenes if the characters are all in one place all the time. Even in Running Up That Hill, the boys didn't move around _that_ much, but they were at least each in a different city for the most part.

Do you have any favorite settings of stories you've read?
I loved the camp setting of Mare's Million Little Things. Just in awe of how easy she made it look to write an interesting story set in one place with minimal... interference? If that makes sense. The setting was just there and sat around the plot nicely without being invasive.

I'm also reading a fic right now that's set in NYC. Again, it's all in one place and it's a place I've never actually been to, so it's been interesting to read about it and learn about the city along the way. For the same reason I loved Mare's story, the setting is so effortlessly executed but being in NYC is important to the plot.

Suppose I should ask a question to keep this going! Now that we've had DNA for roughly 4 months, how have your favourites changed from the initial listen? Are they the same, different?


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 10, 2019, 09:58:22 PM
God Rest Ye Merry Gentleman is another good one!

I agree about Florida and LA getting boring to write as settings.  I don't particularly enjoy writing tours, but I at least appreciate being able to change up the setting that way.

As to your question about DNA, my favorites are pretty much the same.  Passionate is my favorite track on the album, but Don't Go Breaking My Heart has hung in there as one of the best uptempos as well.  I still love New Love, Chances, No Place, and The Way It Was too, and I still don't have any skip songs.


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Post by: mare on April 12, 2019, 05:37:52 PM
Thanks for the mentions ladies! I guess I do tend to set many of my stories in one main location. I never really thought about it until you guys mentioned those two stories. It Stays With You mainly took place in a hotel room. the Apartment only took place in an apartment. Fly Fishing was at a lake and a car, Long Road Home was a car ride. Iím sure there are more.

When I wrote, I never really thought about locations that much. When I did pick a specific location, it always was a real place that I was semi familiar with, although with all the stories I focused on the out doors and camping, I can honestly say Iíve never Been camping in my life lol
 
One story that comes to my mind having to do with location and how well it fit into the story was Seven Days. It all took place in the woods and it was riveting.


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Post by: mare on April 12, 2019, 05:42:14 PM
As far as a Christmas album goes...

Not be all stereotypical music teacher, but Iím not a huge fan of Christmas music. I donít listen to it because itís literally my life from October until Christmas. When Iím not singing these songs all day long or listening to them being played and sung ad naseum, The last thing I want to do is listen to it when I donít have to. Itíll be nice  having them make a Christmas album, but I prefer an all a capella album instead.


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Post by: mare on April 12, 2019, 05:44:47 PM
Last question about the album. Sadly, I really havenít listened to it in awhile, but itís going to be played a lot on my upcoming trek to Buffalo. My feelings about it hasnít changed. I still love Passionate and Real Love. Thereís still no skip songs for me and I still think itís one of their best albums ever.


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Post by: Mistral on April 12, 2019, 06:37:25 PM
I really like chances, donít go breaking my heart and no place. I didnít have the chance to hear the full album for the moment.


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Post by: FrickingKaos on April 13, 2019, 02:13:32 AM
The setting question is pretty interesting.

I've had so many that I've written... For a story I wrote, a personal favorite setting for me was the college Nick and Brian went to in Finding Carter. Describing a college setting was a challenge for me because I had never been to college.

Also when they took the trip to Disney World. Again, it was hard because I'd not been there yet at the time the story was written. I've been there since and it was just as I pictured it if not more amazing.

I also tend to write about NYC often as I do go there often. It's kind of a comfort zone for me.


For a setting I read, I really enjoyed a lot of the settings in 00Carter. I love descriptions.


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Post by: Rose on April 13, 2019, 08:56:50 PM
I think my favorite setting was also in Undead. When I moved into my current apt I found my map of MacDill that I had printed out lol, due to the endless research Julie and I did.

I tend to write with California as a setting. I know it well due to a lot of family living out there though now I could write a present day Nick fic here in Vegas if I wanted LOL. But I'm not afraid of writing areas I don't know cause with the right amount of research I think you can pull it off.

My feelings about DNA are about the same. I love Passionate, The Way It Was, and New Love the most - along with bonus track Do You Remember. But I still play the album often without skipping songs which make it a solid.

I'm hyped about the Christmas album. I love Christmas music so that is WAY overdue for me.



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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 13, 2019, 09:35:25 PM
For a setting I read, I really enjoyed a lot of the settings in 00Carter. I love descriptions.

Thanks!  We've had a lot of fun with settings in that story too.  Our characters have literally been on every continent, so it's been fun to research different places around the world.  I learned a lot about Antarctica from researching for the Ice Ice Baby episode.  My favorite setting from that story had to be Disney World though.  That was fun research too!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 14, 2019, 03:49:22 PM
Random, but I just noticed on the main site, it says "A special welcome to our newest member, ray ban clubmaster tortoise 51."  You might as well call yourself Spammy McSpamerson with that username, but I couldn't help but laugh at the mental image it gave me of a turtle in sunglasses spinning records at the club. 


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Post by: Sakabelle on April 15, 2019, 10:39:23 AM
My feelings about DNA are about the same. I love Passionate, The Way It Was, and New Love the most - along with bonus track Do You Remember. But I still play the album often without skipping songs which make it a solid.

Literally same, just replace Do You Remember with Best Days! That line Nick sings in New Love is possibly my favourite vocal of his on the album. "I want all of you all over me~~~ in any dark roo~~oo~~om" LOL. I got the album on Vinyl but I haven't had a chance to bust it out yet and listen all the way through with my good headphones. I'm excited to do so, maybe on the long weekend.


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Post by: Rose on April 15, 2019, 02:54:21 PM
Literally same, just replace Do You Remember with Best Days! That line Nick sings in New Love is possibly my favourite vocal of his on the album. "I want all of you all over me~~~ in any dark roo~~oo~~om" LOL. I got the album on Vinyl but I haven't had a chance to bust it out yet and listen all the way through with my good headphones. I'm excited to do so, maybe on the long weekend.

I love Nick on New Love. That song in itself vocally is very different from what they normally do. And it's in such a good way. It's what PDA tried to be lyrically, only New Love actually pulls it off.


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Post by: elleinad on April 15, 2019, 08:29:00 PM
I love Nick on New Love. That song in itself vocally is very different from what they normally do. And it's in such a good way. It's what PDA tried to be lyrically, only New Love actually pulls it off.

you are so right about this. PDA makes me cringe lol ???


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Post by: elleinad on April 15, 2019, 08:31:58 PM
Last question about the album. Sadly, I really havenít listened to it in awhile, but itís going to be played a lot on my upcoming trek to Buffalo. My feelings about it hasnít changed. I still love Passionate and Real Love. Thereís still no skip songs for me and I still think itís one of their best albums ever.

I love all the songs but my absolute favorite is Just Like You Like It ... AJ's voice on that is pure gold.

My top 3 are probably JLYLI, Chances and the way it was.

Overall i think Nick's voice got showcased in a lot of ways on this album and he got to show off how dynamic his voice is.



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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 15, 2019, 10:43:09 PM
New Love is so much better musically and lyrically than PDA!  The lyrics are actually sexy as opposed to cringe-worthy.

Nick's voice has gotten better and better as it has matured (and I'm sure the voice lessons he took years ago certainly helped with that too).  I think he's become the best vocalist in the group or at least is tied with AJ.  I love Kevin's voice too, but Nick's is more dynamic.


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Post by: Rose on April 16, 2019, 01:08:54 AM
I agree about Nick currently being tied as the strongest vocalist. You can literally pinpoint the turnaround on TIU which is absolutely Nick's strongest album vocally. He's always been able to belt for ages but now that nasal tendency is gone. Kevin's got such a smoothness to his voice, it's not as dynamic like you said, but I love hearing it. It's a major reason why I love Do You Remember so much. Like, his voice is an old soul - if that makes sense.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on April 23, 2019, 06:09:14 PM
I'm pretty sure that the DNA album is the only album I have ever been able to listen to for this long and not get sick of it at all. Most songs you start to get sick of after hearing so many times (mainly cause of the radio) but I just cant get sick of these songs. For a while I started to not be able to stand songs like QPGWMH, ALAYLM, and even IWITW (I'm a horrible fan for saying that LOL) Now I love listening to them again all the time. And I absolutely loved watching them perform them in person FINALLY! I've watched their concerts so many times on youtube I'm so happy I got to see one live finally.

So what songs do you hope they have put in the set list for the tour that they don't normally do, and what songs from DNA do you hope they pick to do?

I hope they do show 'em what you're made of, I would love to see them do Darlin' (I wanna see/hear Kevin do that talking intro HAHA) or My Beautiful Woman or It's Gotta Be You or I could go on forever with songs LOL
We all know they will most likely do DGBMH, No Place, and Chances, but I hope they do Passionate and They Way It Was. It would be cool if they did like a mash up with The Way It Was and Do You Remember.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on April 23, 2019, 10:55:53 PM
Great suggestion with My Beautiful Woman!!  One of my favorites on Never Gone and even better live with the choreography.  I would love to see them bring that back!

My two favorite BSB songs are Don't Wanna Lose You Now and Siberia, so of course I will say those, too.  I've been lucky enough to see them sing Siberia live several times, between the NG tour and various soundchecks and cruises they've done that one at, but I can never get enough.  I have only seen them sing DWLYN live once during the Millennium tour, and I don't even really remember it, so it would make my life to be able to hear that one again live.  Another one I've always loved and never heard live in person is Like a Child.

I love how they've brought back random songs on the last couple tours, like Get Another Boyfriend, Undone, 10,000 Promises, and Don't Want You Back.  That gives me hope that they might someday do others that weren't singles.  They actually used to sing a medley of Darlin and Anywhere for You during the residency, but they took those two out at some point.

I was disappointed by some of the songs they didn't do on the IAWLT tour, like Make Believe, One Phone Call, Soldier, and Take Care.  I would love to hear any of those!  Same with Unmistakable and Unsuspecting Sunday Afternoon from Unbreakable.  I know they're getting to the point where they have so many songs, it's probably not reasonable to expect them to do them all, but I do wish they would at least perform all the songs off the album they're touring to support.  I think they should sing In a World Like This again too, since that actually was a single that did reasonably well.  I was surprised they left it out of the residency setlist; it's so great live!

As far as DNA goes, besides the singles, I really hope they do New Love, Passionate, and The Way it Was.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on April 27, 2019, 05:09:52 PM
Since I couldnít do Vegas and most likely will miss this tour, I really donít care what they do!  :-[ 

But...My Beautiful Woman would be a great one. I swear I listened to that one song on a constant loop on my drive back from Nashville when I went to Brianís golf  event a century ago. My car battery actually died because at the time, my car didnít even have a CD player in it so I had to plug my portable one into the car lighter  and it drained my battery. Lol I sometimes miss my death mobile.

And going back to the skip song question. Post long Buffalo Drive, Iím happy to report there were still no skip songs for me but I played Breathe more than the other songs. I totally forgot about Breathe. I still adore New Love and Passionate as well.

On a side and random note...The Hamilton soundtrack got me all the way from Buffalo to Syracuse. I literally was on the exit ramp from the New York thruway when I hit the last song. Lol I thought that was awesome.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 28, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
I pretty much listened to Beautiful Woman on repeat the whole summer of 2004, when it leaked.  I played it over and over again when I was driving, at work, wherever I was, and I never got sick of it.  I actually prefer that original leaked version to the album version because it's a little faster, but it's still one of my favorites on Never Gone.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 28, 2019, 03:46:52 PM
Me I fall in love with a song that was to be on one if the backstreet boys CD and Nick sing il when il leak on internet. The song is: sick as my secret!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on April 28, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
I love Sick as My Secrets too!  One of my all-time favorite of the leaked album rejects.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on April 28, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
Il is one of the best song of Nick!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 04, 2019, 06:59:29 PM
How cute are Nick and Odin together?!  Fatherhood suits Nick.  And to think he used to say he didn't want to get married or have kids!  I love how he's done a complete 180 in the last ten years.

And AJ dancing with his girls... so adorable!!!  I love seeing videos and pics of all the guys with their kids.


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Post by: Mistral on May 04, 2019, 08:36:02 PM
Yes Alex and Nick change their life for the best! Odin, Ava and Lyric are so cute!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 05, 2019, 07:27:46 AM
Itís very sweet. AJ is going to have his hands full with Ava lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 05, 2019, 11:40:25 AM
I feel like she is probably a lot like how AJ was as a kid!  What a little performer.  Probably a little drama queen too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on May 06, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
That video was sooo cute omg. I love how much his girls love Taylor. And AJ jumping in was hilarious.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on May 06, 2019, 06:18:21 PM
I love seeing all the guys interacting with their kids!! All of their kids are so adorable!! I agree about Ava, she is probably a lot like AJ as a kid. Its not too much of a surprise that a lot of them like to sing and perform. James is so cute when he sings. And I cant get over how Baylee could literally be Brian's twin when he was that age! You can tell how proud and happy Nick is to be a dad. Its so generous of them to allow us into that part of their lives.   

Its sad when celebrities get so critiqued and criticized on every little move they make with their kids. Like with what happened recently with Pink, how she said she isn't going to be posting anything about her kids on social media anymore. I'm thankful no one has ever done that to the boys.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 06, 2019, 07:59:27 PM
I love watching Nick with Odin. It's just so precious. At his pool party thing, before he sang Nights In White Satin he was telling a very cute story about how he'd sing that to Odin as a lullaby each night when he was a baby. AJ with his two daughters is beyond cute. Ava is absolutely a lot like her dad LOL.

All of them are cute dads, honestly. I love those videos. Mason is a blonde Kevin.


The video I was talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Etj8MKGi_Q


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2019, 08:03:19 PM
James singing in Pollyanna's recital a few weeks ago was so cute!!  Both Howie's boys are adorable.  All their kids are.  Baylee has always looked so much like Brian, but I don't think he sounds like Brian at all when he sings, which is interesting.  He's also singing a different style of song, but it seems like his voice is deeper than Brian's.

I do occasionally see comments critiquing their parenting or kids, and I find that so annoying.  I'm not a parent, so I know it's none of my business to comment on how other people parent their kids, but even if I was, it still wouldn't be my place.  But some so-called "fans" are out of line anyway, especially on the wives' posts.  If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2019, 08:05:42 PM
I love Nick singing that song!  He sang some good ones at that event!  I would love an album of acoustic Nick covers, like that Before the Backstreet Boys one that exists of pre-pubescent Nick's cheesy covers, only much better!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 06, 2019, 08:25:54 PM
Is there any song you've always wanted to hear the guys cover, either as a group or solo?

My parents raised me on classic rock, and I've always thought Brian's voice sounds sort of similar to Don Henley from the Eagles or Steve Walsh from Kansas.  I would love to hear him or the group cover Dust in the Wind or Desperado, something like that.  Don Henley's song Taking You Home would be another good one for Brian.  (ER fans, you will remember that song from this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMzoqgE7R1k We need a crying emoji on here!)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 06, 2019, 09:35:25 PM
Or: somewhere over the rainbows when doctor Green pass away in ER


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 06, 2019, 09:46:00 PM
I'd asked about Nick's next solo album, which he didn't answer...just joked that we don't want another one LOL. But then a fan suggested he do a cover album. He went "nah, that's Kevin's deal, right? He put out Cover Story." Then laughed when everyone said Kevin never released it LOL.

I'd love for Nick to cover "Can't Buy Me Love". I grew up on that and Beach Boys, thanks to my mom. And I could really hear him in my head killing that song.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on May 07, 2019, 06:57:40 AM
Iíd love Nick or even the boys as a whole to do more covers of Beach Boys songs. Iíd like to hear Nick do some more rock music, like Nirvana or Metallica....I think his voice is so interchangeabl e that he can master any genre and sound great. Thatís one thing that I like about Nickís voice is that itís so versatile.

I highly enjoyed the video of Nick doing ďA Horse With No NameĒ from the pool party because that is one of my favorite songs, and I remember him saying he sang that song to Odin too at one point or another, I canít remember.

I really wish that Kevin released Cover Story because I was looking forward to hearing him sing more.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2019, 09:31:49 PM
Or: somewhere over the rainbows when doctor Green pass away in ER

I love that song!  It makes me cry because of ER.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2019, 09:34:05 PM
I'd asked about Nick's next solo album, which he didn't answer...just joked that we don't want another one LOL. But then a fan suggested he do a cover album. He went "nah, that's Kevin's deal, right? He put out Cover Story." Then laughed when everyone said Kevin never released it LOL.

I'd love for Nick to cover "Can't Buy Me Love". I grew up on that and Beach Boys, thanks to my mom. And I could really hear him in my head killing that song.

LOL Clueless Nick.  Of course we want another solo album!  And nope, Kevin talked about that damn Cover Story album way back in 2013 and still hasn't released it!  I love his cover of Danny's Song.

Any Beach Boys song would be a great choice because of the harmonies!  I loved when they did When I Grow Up to Be a Man.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 07, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
RokofAges75: this song make me cry too since ER

I really hope Brian gonna do another solo album because I love so much his voice


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 07, 2019, 10:01:25 PM
I hope he does too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 07, 2019, 10:13:47 PM
I hope when AJ gonna release his new solo album, the CD gonna be sold in my country. I have already two of his songs on my ipad.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 07, 2019, 10:45:43 PM
LOL Clueless Nick.  Of course we want another solo album!  And nope, Kevin talked about that damn Cover Story album way back in 2013 and still hasn't released it!  I love his cover of Danny's Song.

Any Beach Boys song would be a great choice because of the harmonies!  I loved when they did When I Grow Up to Be a Man.

I know right? LOL.

I'm sad we'll likely never hear Cover Story. I've really come to love Kevin's voice. We don't hear it enough.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 09, 2019, 09:26:08 PM
How about Howie releasing a solo album in July without saying anything until now?!  Stealth D!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 11, 2019, 06:56:40 AM
Yes, that came out of nowhere. It seems like weird timing to be releasing all the solo stuff between AJ and Howie with the tour just starting, but good for them.

On another note, Iím pleasantly surprised to see all these Instagram posts from Brian about this tour. He seems excited about it. Usually heís like Waldo so I think thatís a great sign for this tour. Enjoy!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 11, 2019, 05:08:33 PM
Howie's song and video are so cute!  Very different from his last album, but I'm down for it.  AJ's song is beautiful and sweet!  I'm surprised Nick's not getting in on all this solo action!

I think it helps that Brian's family is not with him in Europe.  He always seems more interactive with the fans and the other guys when Leighanne's not around.  I'm glad to see him excited!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 11, 2019, 05:12:27 PM
Maybe he feel better about his voice too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 11, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
That could be too!  He does seem more confident and less shaky when he sings.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 11, 2019, 08:35:09 PM
Yes and he look less anxious too


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 13, 2019, 05:45:32 PM
Not to go too deep into a very heavy discussion, but part of me wonders if Nick was holding back on the solo work because of Melissa-gate. Cause he was full steam ahead, teasing one and everything until that broke. Then everything came to a halt.

I could be wrong though cause Nick usually leaves solo work for when there's nothing going on in BSB land.

I'm not feeling Howie's family album but the idea is cute so do what makes you happy Howie. AJ's song is beautiful but man he's all over the place lol. Set a release date for the solo album already LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 13, 2019, 06:00:16 PM
Maybe Nick wait for when the bsb gonna stop to be so busy.
Brian said on radio interview that the group gonna release two others album next year.
I love AJ songs!
I really hope that Brian gonna do another solo album


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 13, 2019, 07:05:22 PM
It could also be that Nick is just too busy enjoying being a dad.  All American came out before Odin was born.  He has other priorities now.  I'm not complaining because we were lucky to get three albums out of him within 4-5 years... plus a book, a reality show, and Dancing With the Stars!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 13, 2019, 08:22:08 PM
Yeah, no complaints here lol.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 17, 2019, 07:05:49 PM
I know we've probably talked about this before, but Tracy brought up on Twitter how Kevin was talking about always being the one who's late because he likes to sleep in, which is so different from how many of us write Kevin in fanfics, as the anal stickler who expects everyone to be on time and do their job.  So my question is, what are some other ways you've discovered the Boys are different in real life from how they're portrayed in fanfic?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 18, 2019, 10:20:01 AM
As we celebrate 20 years of Millennium today, what is your favorite track and overall opinion of the album, and has it changed since 1999?

Also, what do you guys think about I Want It That Way Reimagined?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 18, 2019, 12:05:02 PM
I donít know if Iíd use the word re-imagined. I do love this acoustic version though. I think itís beautiful. This song has been and will always be my jam. I do love most of the songs on this album though. I think Back to Your Heart might be my second favorite.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 18, 2019, 12:56:07 PM
It's really not that different; it's just an acoustic version.  I love it.  Not more than the original, but it is beautiful.  I Want It That Way is just an amazingly catchy song any way you sing it.

I like every song on Millennium, no skip songs for me.  My favorite is Don't Wanna Lose You Now, though it wasn't always my favorite.  Don't Want You Back is another one that I love more now than I did when Millennium was first released.  When we got to vote on the single on TRL, The One was my first choice (even before Nick called in), It's Gotta Be You was second, and Don't Want You Back was third.  Now I would have a hard time picking between The One and Don't Want You Back.  All the singles from Millennium are among my favorite tracks, though; they did a great job choosing them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 18, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
I know we've probably talked about this before, but Tracy brought up on Twitter how Kevin was talking about always being the one who's late because he likes to sleep in, which is so different from how many of us write Kevin in fanfics, as the anal stickler who expects everyone to be on time and do their job.  So my question is, what are some other ways you've discovered the Boys are different in real life from how they're portrayed in fanfic?

I must have missed this post. Yeah, Iím pretty sure Kevin for me was the most inaccurately written character, especially early on. The very last fanfic I was writing, I think I got him closest to his real persona. Iím pretty sure I always made him a stickler for being on time. Oopsies! I still stick by my characterizati ons of everyone else lol for now at least.  


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 19, 2019, 02:50:34 PM
Kevin is a stickler about some things, just apparently not being on time LOL.  I was at the first soundcheck of the IAWLT tour, and he treated it like a real soundcheck, not just the "soundcheck party."  He was super anal about making sure the instruments and mics were all at the right level and whatnot.  So in some ways, that portrayal of him is spot on.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 20, 2019, 04:59:15 AM
I like the re-imagined version, although still prefer the original.

Favourite song on Millennium is Show Me The Meaning, I just love it still.  I also love Don't Want You Back :)


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Post by: Sakabelle on May 20, 2019, 10:06:19 AM
I feel like they could have done more with the reimagined version. But, it's hard to improve on perfection.

IWITW was a favourite of mine back then, and it still is. The whole album is really great (if you stop after No One Else Comes Close, lol) and I think it does hold up. Oddly enough Larger Than Life has become a favourite of mine over the years. Not that I didn't like it back then, I just like it a lot more now. It's Gotta Be You was definitely a standout to me in the 90s as well, and I was so sure it would be a single that I was disappointed when it wasn't. I also feel like I remember AJ saying in an interview it would be a single at some point, which I think is what I held onto. Little did I know when I was 13 how much AJ likes to hear the sound of his own voice!!

That's cool that they sang the entire album on the cruise - I didn't know they did that! I like how they have really embraced the nostalgia of that time period. I wonder if they'll do the same for B&B? Or at least for the Around the World trip.

Oh also, that reminds me. It's crazy how Jojo Wright is still with them after all these years and still a force in radio in general.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 06:41:53 PM
"It's hard to improve on perfection" - yes!  So true.  IWITW is the perfect pop song.  The only thing it's lacking is lyrics that make sense, but their attempt to fix that back in the day with that alternate No Goodbyes version wasn't nearly as catchy.  So I'm not sure what else they could have done with it that wouldn't have taken away the elements that make it great.

Larger Than Life is an amazing song too.  It's so catchy and fun, and it's always great live.  The video is still my favorite too.

That's a good question about if they'll make as big a deal out of B&B's 20th anniversary.  They should because it sold a ton of copies too, but I don't think it has the same feel that Millennium does.  The album itself is not as good overall, and B&B was kind of the beginning of a bad period in BSB history, with them getting burnt out, AJ going to rehab, Nick going solo, and then the hiatus.  I love B&B too, but there is just something special about the Millennium album and era that none of the other albums quite have.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on May 20, 2019, 08:34:53 PM
Ahh yes, I remember that discussion with Tracy. But see the question I have is, is that the way he is now, but was how we think he way portrayed back then? People do change. I brought up the fact that they are all older and more mature now, so maybe Kevin doesn't feel that responsibility anymore?

I think in the past maybe Nick has been portrayed too much as not caring, partying 24/7, and sleeping around a lot. Yea he sorta went through that phase, but I don't feel it was as crazy as some fanfics made it seem. At least in my opinion. Otherwise I think the rest of the guys are pretty much the same.

{I still cant believe Brian called himself an asshole in that interview LOL}


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 08:40:07 PM
Yeah I donít know why Brian call himself names like that


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: smh1105 on May 20, 2019, 08:42:53 PM
I think he was just trying to be funny. It kinda worked cause the guys started cracking up after he said that.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 08:50:36 PM
That definitely could be true.  Kevin doesn't have to be in that "big brother" role now that they're all grown men.  He has seemed to mellow over the years, no doubt.

LOL After reading his book, I actually think Nick was crazier than he was portrayed in a lot of fanfics back then.  Or maybe it was just the ones I read.  I definitely wrote him as much more innocent in the early 2000s than I would knowing what I know about him now.  But I was pretty naive and innocent myself.  AJ was supposed to be the "bad boy," but let's be honest - the real bad boy was Nick LOL.

On the other hand, Brian has always been portrayed as the sweet, goofy boy-next-door, and rarely do we see that asshole side of him in fanfics, but I think there must be some truth to that.  (Cue Nick screaming, "Don't be a dick!")  Brian is definitely opinionated, and that may make him an asshole in some people's eyes.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 08:55:13 PM
I was so mad at Nick and Howie when I see this part in the documentary and for what they said in interview alter that.

I donít know if any of you hear what Kevin call Brian on stage the first night of the DNA tour?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 08:59:34 PM
Aww... as much as it makes me cringe to hear them screaming "Shut the fuck up!" at each other, that whole fight was so entertaining!  And even though I'm a Brian girl, I side with Nick on Soldier.  That is an incredibly catchy song that absolutely deserved to be on that album and should have been on the tour setlist too!

No, what did Kevin call Brian?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 09:03:09 PM
I love soldier too!

Just before the song passionate, Kevin call Brian back on stage and he call him baby


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 20, 2019, 09:04:39 PM
Aww...  :patpat:


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 20, 2019, 09:09:22 PM
Yes Kevin in big brother mode with Brian!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 21, 2019, 02:03:46 AM
I think Brian calling himself an asshole is him being very self aware lol

Its funny to think about our perspectives of that Black and Blue era depending on what kind of fanfics we were reading at the time. The ones I was writing and reading definitely did downplay all the crap that was going on behind the scenes, especially with Nick. I think we knew things were bad but not as bad as they actually were. As far as that album getting the same attention as Millennium, Iím sure theyíll do something but itís Millennium that made them into superstars and separated them from the pack of all the other boy bands out there. If not for the strength of that album, theyíd be on tour with 98 degrees and LFO lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 21, 2019, 04:53:17 PM
I definitely did not realize how bad things were at the time of B&B.  It's only looking back at that era now, knowing what was going on behind the scenes, that it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  I feel the same way about Never Gone.  At the time, that was a fun era, having the Boys making music and touring again after the hiatus, but knowing now what a mess Nick was and that Kevin was unhappy and wanting to leave the group, I would never name that as one of my favorite eras.  I think 2013 onward is the best era of BSB because it's the first time I've felt like all five of them are happy being a Backstreet Boy, happy in their personal lives, and comfortable in their own skin.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on May 21, 2019, 11:29:05 PM
Millennium just has a magic about it. The Boys recently called it their Thriller and I'd have to agree. That's their record that just really changed everything for them. "I Want It That Way" is the song that will be considered an oldies classic in a few decades, scary as that is LOL. That album also really defined my childhood. That era is when I discovered fan pages, fan fiction, and it's when I went from fan to hard core fan.

Black and Blue is weird for me knowing all that went down now. Like you knew things were off but you couldn't tell just how bad. And like you said Julie, it's the same for NG. That era in particular just doesn't give me good vibes. Kevin left, Nick was a mess, they were fighting hard with Jive, a lot went wrong. But it's also my first concert and the first time I ever saw BSB in person.

I agree about 2013-onward being the best era. They've embraced each other and themselves. They've really connected with the fans too in that. Everything has just been really good. I was at the show in February the day before the Grammys and Kevin was on stage talking about how lucky they were, how thankful they were for everything. Of course it being Kevin he almost started crying. But they were so happy. It's just a great time right now.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on May 22, 2019, 02:15:18 PM
This has nothing to do with anything BSB related, but I wanted to say that Getting Grace is now streaming on HULU itís the movie that my former student is starring in. About a girl who is dying of cancer who befriends a mortician so she can get more comfortable with the idea of death. Maddie plays Grace. In addition, another student of mine did the film score. Totally random, different schools and different time periods lol okay done advertising. I think youíll all like it though.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on May 22, 2019, 09:17:32 PM
I don't have Hulu right now, but next time I get a free trial or decide to renew my subscription, I want to watch that.  It sounds like something I'd enjoy.  That's very cool that your former student stars in it!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 22, 2019, 09:20:15 PM
I agree with everything you said, Rose, especially about Millennium.  It totally is their Thriller.  It's the album and era that made me go from a casual fan to a true fanatic, and it's when I discovered fanfic too.  In that respect, it changed my whole life, because without fanfic, I would not have met any of you guys, and I doubt I would have ever gone on a BSB cruise or done a lot of the stuff I've done with friends I met online.


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Post by: mare on May 23, 2019, 04:02:51 PM
I don't have Hulu right now, but next time I get a free trial or decide to renew my subscription, I want to watch that.  It sounds like something I'd enjoy.  That's very cool that your former student stars in it!

Yes, I mean itís not gonna win any Oscars or anything. The writing is more Lifetime Network or Hallmark channel, but even still, Maddie did a spectacular job. After the first half hour I forgot I knew her.

Thanks for not ignoring that post lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on May 24, 2019, 04:52:06 AM
If we had Hulu I'd check it out, but it's not something I think we get over here.

Three weeks until I see the DNA tour, I'm so excited :)  I know that has nothing to do with the B&B album but just wanted to say it lol


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Post by: FrickingKaos on May 24, 2019, 12:51:04 PM
I'm not seeing the DNA tour until August. Pure torture. This summer is going to go by fast though, I got a lot I'm doing in the meantime.


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Post by: Mistral on May 24, 2019, 12:55:27 PM
Iím gonna see the DNA tour only on July and the full show is already on YouTube


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 08:49:35 AM
Is there a high quality version of the full show on YouTube, or is it just people's cell phone videos?  I hate watching shaky video with a bunch of screaming in the background. 


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 08:53:03 AM
I'm so happy for Nick and Lauren!  I'm glad they finally announced it so fans will stop speculating if she's pregnant or not.  She did look pregnant in those photos he posted of them at a restaurant last week, and I noticed she's been wearing flowy, baggy clothes lately, but wow, she looks a lot further along than I would have guessed in the picture he posted yesterday!  I don't blame them for keeping it private for as long as possible, after the miscarriages they've been through.


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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Iím verry happy for Nick&Lauren too!!

Yes I see a verry good quality of the show!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 03:40:32 PM
Do you have a link?


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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 07:58:49 PM
Yes! https://youtu.be/24c7fia6ZWE


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 10:27:59 PM
Thanks!  Is there more after that first song?  The video's only 6 minutes.

I found this one; it looks like the whole show, and the quality is decent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwoT2660-do  I haven't watched any videos from the tour yet, but I would be tempted by a good quality video of the full concert.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 10:36:10 PM
Yes the full show is there. You are welcome!



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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 10:43:39 PM
https://youtu.be/IbimV80Ykf8
https://youtu.be/oh-5ZOtHl54
https://youtu.be/LH5scn1ejC0
https://youtu.be/Oq18PnMXr3s
https://youtu.be/3igYxSCNIZw
https://youtu.be/ivqXO44RHBc
https://youtu.be/ntEIVI9qDjs
https://youtu.be/9nLzcylaJLY
https://youtu.be/rwobccDyv2M
https://youtu.be/L52bpby7Yco
https://youtu.be/BU2A2xtPZ2Q


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Post by: Mistral on May 25, 2019, 10:48:22 PM
https://youtu.be/3Sgos2uevAY
https://youtu.be/grVEzsaRuR0
https://youtu.be/jZP5q8o0yKQ
https://youtu.be/W8IhMif0PnQ
https://youtu.be/DsaWrG_JJ6E
https://youtu.be/rb6dXqGp4zc
https://youtu.be/eQAlvBPP8s4


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Post by: RokofAges75 on May 25, 2019, 11:30:14 PM
Thanks!


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Post by: Mistral on May 26, 2019, 12:32:50 AM
Youíre welcome!


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Post by: mare on May 26, 2019, 04:18:07 AM
Thanks for these.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on May 26, 2019, 10:45:55 AM
You are welcome!


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Post by: Carter-Orange on June 11, 2019, 03:46:31 AM
I've been staying away from tour spoilers as I'm going on Saturday and want to be surprised, I can't wait as it's been five years since their last tour over here.

But I will be watching those videos afterwards and re-living it, so thanks for sharing :)


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Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 11:51:15 AM
No problem!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 11, 2019, 05:27:48 PM
So excited for you, Steph!!

I have yet to watch any tour videos, including the clips they've been posting on Instagram.  One of these nights I'm going to cave and watch one of the full concerts on YouTube.  If I'm going to be spoiled, I'm gonna do it right.  But so far I've been able to resist.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 06:03:48 PM
Me I go to see them in concert in a month!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 11, 2019, 07:43:25 PM
Exciting!!  I'm seeing them in August, but I'm not counting down because it's the week before I go back to work, and I don't want to wish my summer away.  It will be nice to have something to look forward to in the midst of the back-to-school blues though!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 07:48:44 PM
Yes and it is the only show I do for the DNA world tour.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 11, 2019, 07:50:15 PM
Thought of some fanfic questions...

Where was the first place you ever posted one of your stories?  When was it, what story was it, and is the site still online?

For those who still write, do you post your stories on any other sites besides AC?  If so, where?

For those who read and/or post on other sites, how is the culture there different than on AC?  (That can include number and types of stories posted, popular genres, quantity of readers, quality of reviews, etc.)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 11, 2019, 07:56:36 PM
RokofAges75: I really miss talking to you!

My first fanfic was post online on a french fans forum and it is not online anymore.
Yes I post on archive of our own and here.
On the other site the writers post more slash stories.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 13, 2019, 10:25:40 PM
The first place I posted a story (or had it hosted, rather) was on a site called Escape from Reality.  It's actually still online, though it hasn't been updated since February 2000, which is when my story Heartache was posted there.  The whole story never even made it onto the site because the webmaster stopped updating it, but it is finished on my site.

The only places I post my stuff nowadays are on AC and my own site, Dreamer's Sanctuary.  I've thought about branching out onto other sites that have a more active fanbase, which is partly why I asked this question.  I miss having more options to read and being able to write and receive reviews.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on June 14, 2019, 02:36:48 AM
Where was the first place you ever posted one of your stories?  When was it, what story was it, and is the site still online?

The first place I ever posted a story was on a Take That forum that had a fanfic section.  It was back in about 2007 (I was late getting into fanfics), it was romance story about a Take That member and the site is no longer online unfortunately.

For those who still write, do you post your stories on any other sites besides AC?  If so, where?

I don't post anywhere else, and haven't posted anything in a long time either.

For those who read and/or post on other sites, how is the culture there different than on AC?  (That can include number and types of stories posted, popular genres, quantity of readers, quality of reviews, etc.)

I don't go on any other sites.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on June 16, 2019, 01:26:47 PM
The concert was absolutely amazing!  The atmosphere was fantastic, everyone was up dancing and singing and it was just a really good night.  So anyone going to see them is in for a good time, but you already know that 🤣


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 16, 2019, 03:11:03 PM
Yes I cannot wait to see them on july 15!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 16, 2019, 07:50:06 PM
Glad you had a great time, Steph!


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Post by: Sakabelle on June 21, 2019, 01:44:35 PM
Where was the first place you ever posted one of your stories?  When was it, what story was it, and is the site still online?

I don't remember the name of it, but I sent my stories to some old Geocities fansite and they would put it under their "Hosted Stories" section. That was back in like 1999 lol

For those who still write, do you post your stories on any other sites besides AC?  If so, where?

I post on AO3 (Archive of Our Own)

For those who read and/or post on other sites, how is the culture there different than on AC?  (That can include number and types of stories posted, popular genres, quantity of readers, quality of reviews, etc.)

I can't speak for the BSB side on AO3, but I know that there are some BSB stories there. I have only read/written 1D fic on that site. What I have noticed is:

1. I have gotten more reviews there than I ever did on AC. BUT I am also writing in a more active fandom and I had a fic that blew up so I think my stats are a little skewed.

2. There is the concept of "kudos" which is basically like a Facebook "like." I have found for every 10 or so kudos I will get a comment. Because of this the comments typically say more than just "great story."

3. There is a very good way to have a back and forth with a reader there - they can comment, you can reply, they can reply back and you can have a good dialogue! I have noticed that a lot of people respond to reviews, but not everyone does. I'm guilty of not always responding to reviews, especially when I haven't logged into my account in months. Oops. No one seems to really mind.

4. It's mostly slash. Het fic gets very little traction. I don't think this is exclusive to 1D but obviously I don't know for sure.

5. Ongoing chaptered fic gets some reads, but less than posting a 50k completed fic. I rarely write things in chapters anymore, I just write the whole thing as a oneshot and post it all at once. If there are logical breaks I might split them out when I post, but I'll still post it all at once. I find even when I post chapters most people will wait until the fic is finished to read and comment anyway.


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 23, 2019, 08:58:21 PM
That is interesting to see the differences between A03 and here!  Thanks, Steph!


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 30, 2019, 09:57:00 PM
Remember when the mods had to make rules about how many stories we could update per day to prevent people's stories from being quickly bumped down to the bottom of the Most Recent page or, worse, page 2?  And now there are only 4 stories on the Most Recent page, period.  Only 4 authors who have updated in the last 30 days.  That is so sad!

Maybe this is just me feeling nostalgic, as I tend to do on late summer nights, but I hate to see AC dying this way.  Not only do I miss our many active threads and discussions on here, but I also miss following stories on the main site.  Anyone else?


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Post by: RokofAges75 on June 30, 2019, 10:47:38 PM
On a completely different nostalgic note, I just opened Google Docs to write (but obviously can't focus worth crap) and started thinking about how much things have changed and how much easier it is to write and post a story online now than it was when I first started writing fanfic.  I used to type stories on Microsoft Word on an old desktop computer that wasn't connected to the dial-up internet because my parents didn't think a 14-year-old needed internet access in her bedroom - I was lucky enough just to have my own computer.  I would have to save the chapters to a floppy disc, which I would then put into the family computer that DID have internet so I could post them online (all without anyone knowing what I was doing, mind you).  I would also copy/paste other people's stories into Word and save them to my floppy so I could take them back to my own computer to read offline because once I tried to print one of them and I got in trouble for wasting so much printer paper.  What a lot of effort!  Now I use Google Docs so I can access my stories from anywhere, including my phone, and post them to AC and my WordPress site without ever needing to save an actual file.  Technology's come a long way in twenty years!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on June 30, 2019, 11:08:01 PM
I know many people stop writing fanfiction and leave the BSB fandom. I have trouble to write my last fanfic because of many things, but I hope to be able to write more on vacation.

I do the same thing as you when I was younger to be able to read and post my fanfics without my parents know what I was doing on the computer.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on June 30, 2019, 11:43:27 PM
It is definitely difficult at times. I've found real life gets in the way more and more as I get older. Adulting is hard! Somehow it was easier to write even when I was a full-time student with homework.  I struggled to keep up with it when I went back to school to get my master's, and it seems like the fandom I came back to is not what it was before.  I hope more people come back to it!

LOL My parents were clueless too!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 01, 2019, 12:13:16 AM
It was more easy when the french fandom was there because english is not my first language so it is more hard for me to translate all my fanfics I write and yes adult life is very hard.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 01, 2019, 01:34:45 AM
I'm sure it is very hard to write or translate to another language!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 01, 2019, 01:53:36 AM
Yup, things have definitely changed. I remember having to weed through stories to feature and being really picky about what to feature. There used to be a criteria. Now Iíve been doing mainly stories that update and had just been going alphabetical.

It is sad to see all the changes. I just think thatís part of life. Now that the guys are all older, married and pretty much settled, writing stories about them has gotten harder to do. Itís nice to see their actual fandom hasnít died though. Just on my twitter feed, every other post is about them lol just not the fictional them.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 01, 2019, 01:57:18 AM
Good lord it was a hassle and a half to post anything back in the day. Iím still not sure how my untechnical self was able to pull it off. I remember waiting forever for my dial up to kick in and then Iíd end up mailing chapters to you, Izzy and whoever else used to host me. When I had my own site, Mersey used to make me word docs explaining how to do the html coding lol I do not miss those days lol  


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 01, 2019, 03:10:41 AM
Now that the guys are all older, married and pretty much settled, writing stories about them has gotten harder to do. Itís nice to see their actual fandom hasnít died though. Just on my twitter feed, every other post is about them lol just not the fictional them.

Do you think that's what it is?  With as popular as romance used to be, I guess that makes sense - it's harder to pair them with random women when they're married in real life.  Gotta ignore reality or come up with creative ways to get rid of the wives.  The last "romance" I wrote was slash, and the one before that was written before Nick got married, so it was easier to have him break up with Lauren.  So I get it, but at the same time, I hope that's not all that's stopping people from writing.  There are still plenty of ways around that particular problem.  But maybe it's the "settled" part that people struggle with - Nick was definitely more interesting to write about when he was a hot mess.  Now he's this mature family man, and maybe that doesn't work as well for some people.  Part of writing is creating conflict for your characters, though.

I am glad to see other parts of the fandom so active!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 01, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Yeah, I mean Iím not totally certain thatís why, but it does make sense. I guess thatís one of the downsides to real person fanfics versus the other stuff. Itís probably easier for people to switch over to a different fandom to write nowadays or go the slash route. That might also have something to do with it? itís hard to find reasons for things waning. Itís kind of sad, but at least the boys themselves arenít fading. Maybe with their resurgence, There will be a whole new generation of kids writing fanfics about them. Weird to think that thereís probably people out there writing Baylee fanfics and itís no longer icky and inappropriate lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 01, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
Their kids is a no go for me I think writing about them is not ok


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 01, 2019, 02:24:20 PM
LOL Oh man, that will be a weird day when a Baylee fanfic pops up.  I have no problem including the kids in my stories when it makes sense to, but they're never the main focus.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on July 05, 2019, 05:43:58 AM
Yes, I remember logging on and seeing a few pages of most recent stories, and it's a shame to see only a couple on there now.  I'm guilty of not writing for some time, but I just can't seem to find the chance to sit and get anything done. 

But my love of the boys is as strong as ever :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 05, 2019, 07:44:18 AM
Ten days until Montreal concert!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 05, 2019, 05:36:33 PM
But my love of the boys is as strong as ever :)

Yay!  That's the most important thing. :)

There were actually three threads updated today!  I couldn't believe it when I logged in!  You should come on more often, Steph LOL.  I go through phases where I check this forum multiple sites a day, and then I get busy with life and go days or weeks without even thinking about it, so I totally get it.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 05, 2019, 05:36:48 PM
Ten days until Montreal concert!!

The countdown is on!  So excited for you!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 05, 2019, 05:40:29 PM
Yes I cannot wait to see them in concert! Thanks!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 06, 2019, 11:08:50 PM
What was everyone's first BSB concert?

Mine was March 7, 2000 in St. Louis for the second US leg of the Millennium tour when I was 14.  I tried to get tickets for the first leg the previous fall, but that was the time they literally sold out in seconds.  I had my mom on the computer trying to buy them from Ticketmaster and my dad at an actual Ticketmaster box office trying to buy them in person the minute they went on sale, and neither one of them could get tickets.  I was devastated and cried the rest of the day.  But then the second leg came around, and the local radio station offered a bus trip to the St. Louis concert that included guaranteed tickets, so we did that.  I went with my mom, my sister, and my best friend at the time, who is the one who got me into BSB.  It was my first ever real concert, not just my first BSB show, and it was pretty much the best thing ever!  We were sitting so far back that the guys just looked like specks on the stage, but I was just excited to be in the same building as them, breathing the same air LOL.  I had the time of my life!  If I only knew then that I would one day meet them, take pictures with them, go on cruises with them, see concerts from the first few rows, etc., I never would have believed it!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 12, 2019, 06:39:42 PM
Have you guys heard Howie's album yet?  I'm finally getting a chance to listen to it, and it's so cute!!  Even if you have no interest in the whole album, you have to give the title track a listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoF8oBKCwpQ  It's about BSB!  So funny and sweet!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 14, 2019, 12:10:58 AM
My first BSB concert wasn't until 2005 LOL.

My parents tried. They couldn't afford Millennium. They did get B&B but then mine was one of the cancelled dates for Aj's rehab and they ended up unable to take me to the rescheduled one once those popped up. I wanted to do NON but I got sick and my mom wouldn't let me go even though I had a ticket. So when I was 18, and I was determined to go. So I blew my first paycheck at my new job on a ticket LOL. They were okay seats but I met some fans I'd talked to online...it was my first time doing this. I was nervous cause I went alone. They let me trade my ticket with one of theirs on the floor that they hadn't been able to sell. It was amazing, time of my life. I thought the end all was seeing them walk by through the casino up close.

NEVER would've thought everything that would've happened over the years. It's madness.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 14, 2019, 11:09:45 AM
Itís tomorrow!! I cannot wait!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 14, 2019, 02:31:00 PM
My first BSB concert was the Up Close and Personal tour in Scranton with Kat and Stacy. I miss them. No idea the year or date. I donít really keep track of that stuff. It was general admission, back when I could stand, and we had pretty good spots. I loved it. 


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:16:29 PM
My first BSB concert wasn't until 2005 LOL.

My parents tried. They couldn't afford Millennium. They did get B&B but then mine was one of the cancelled dates for Aj's rehab and they ended up unable to take me to the rescheduled one once those popped up. I wanted to do NON but I got sick and my mom wouldn't let me go even though I had a ticket. So when I was 18, and I was determined to go. So I blew my first paycheck at my new job on a ticket LOL. They were okay seats but I met some fans I'd talked to online...it was my first time doing this. I was nervous cause I went alone. They let me trade my ticket with one of theirs on the floor that they hadn't been able to sell. It was amazing, time of my life. I thought the end all was seeing them walk by through the casino up close.

NEVER would've thought everything that would've happened over the years. It's madness.

Wow, you had some bad luck with those early concerts!  My B&B show was also one of the ones to get postponed when AJ went to rehab, but luckily I was able to go to the rescheduled show in September.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:18:20 PM
Itís tomorrow!! I cannot wait!!

Your first ever BSB concert?!  Wow, that is even more exciting!!!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:21:00 PM
My first BSB concert was the Up Close and Personal tour in Scranton with Kat and Stacy. I miss them. No idea the year or date. I donít really keep track of that stuff. It was general admission, back when I could stand, and we had pretty good spots. I loved it. 

It would have been early 2005.  My Up Close and Personal show was in March of that year.  Mine was GA too, which I hate, but because it was such a small and intimate venue compared to anywhere else I'd seen them, it was the first time I'd ever been able to get close enough to actually see their faces clearly.  I spent the whole show pinned to a column, unable to move, but it was totally worth the discomfort.  That was a fun little tour!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 14, 2019, 03:29:54 PM
RokofAges75: no itís my first show! I see all the show since the Never Gone tour.

I donít remember my first show, but itís was in the first time the boys come to Quebec.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 14, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
Oh okay!  Still exciting! :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 14, 2019, 03:53:55 PM
Yes I love each show the boys give at Montreal!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Sakabelle on July 14, 2019, 05:21:28 PM
My first BSB show was Backstreet’s Back in 1998. Nosebleeds, I was 12, cried when Nick sang Heaven in Your Eyes. Good times.

After that they didn’t come back to my city until Never Gone. I tried to go see them in Toronto for B&B but I was 15 so coming up with the cash for that was challenging. I made a valiant effort at it though!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 15, 2019, 05:56:48 AM
Wow, you had some bad luck with those early concerts!  My B&B show was also one of the ones to get postponed when AJ went to rehab, but luckily I was able to go to the rescheduled show in September.

I know right? It's why I've said all the things I do now is to compensate for everything I "missed out on" as a kid LOL. I'm actually really excited for Chicago cause it'll be my first arena tour experience with the Boys.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 15, 2019, 10:54:59 PM
Best show ever! Iím so proud of Brian his voice was amazing!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 12:45:56 AM
Yay, I'm glad you had a great time!  I'm so happy to hear that about Brian!  I can't wait to hear him in person in August!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 16, 2019, 12:52:39 AM
Yes I have a great time! Yes Brian receive a standing ovation. You are gonna have a very good show in august!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 12:58:43 AM
Aww!  He will definitely be getting a standing ovation from me in Chicago!  I can't wait.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 16, 2019, 01:02:52 AM
Baylee impress me a lot when he does the first part of the show!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 01:37:27 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Baylee too!  I still can't get over how deep his singing voice is compared to Brian's, though - for being Brian's Mini-Me, he sounds completely different!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 16, 2019, 12:09:15 PM
Yes and he his very professional on stage with lots of talent


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 16, 2019, 06:34:17 PM
I was on YouTube looking up the clip of the fight from the documentary, and I came across this deleted scene that I had never seen before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKX3jJx_-A0  It shows the guys arguing about whether or not they need or want management's approval on their song choices for In a World Like This.  It's really interesting, and I think they all bring up good points.  Just wondered what your thoughts are on the subject.

Personally, I think In a World Like This is the best album they've ever made, other than maybe Millennium - which is interesting because the guys had a ton of creative control over IAWLT, but I'm not sure how much they had over Millennium.  Although I think Howie was right to be open to outside opinions, I totally agree with AJ that they shouldn't be trying to please anyone but themselves and their fans.  To me, This Is Us was the result of them trying too hard to make music that would fit with the crap being played on pop radio at the time, and yet it still failed to get any airplay, at least here in the States.  IAWLT was way more them.  As much as I like DNA, I don't think it's as good as IAWLT, and I think that has a lot to do with the fact that the Boys weren't as involved in writing the songs.  I'm sure they still had a lot of creative control, but now that they're back with a major record label, probably not as much as they had with IAWLT.  There are some great tracks on DNA that other people wrote for them, but quite frankly, a few of the songs are pretty boring.  They're pleasant, but they're not songs I really want to listen to over and over again.  In shooting for commercial success, I feel like they played it safe instead of taking a risk like Howie was talking about and sacrificed some creativity in the process.  DNA's still a solid album with some great songs, but it's not their best.  Just my two cents!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: FrickingKaos on July 20, 2019, 07:13:51 AM
Hey sorry I havenít been on here in a hot minute, I was away last week in North Carolina seeing NKOTB and then I went to a Blink 182 concert, after that I was sick with a sinus infection. So Iím trying to catch up on things on the forum and writing wise...I took like a week and a half break from fanfic but I think Iím back in my writing zone because I managed to write half a chapter last night at work now that I have a keyboard for my iPad again.

Since BSB was not the first concert I went to, (it was NSYNC actually) I didnít see BSB live for the first time until the second leg of the Black and Blue tour, after AJ had gone to rehab. I remember at my show he said heíd been sober for a month or something...th at was back when he used to count the days heíd been sober at each show. I remember they were gonna film an acceptance speech for a MTV award during the show too but the boys didnít win it or something like that....itís been too long and I donít remember exactly lol but I had horrible seats for that concert and none of my pictures came out....this was back when we used disposable cameras at concerts. It kind of boggles my mind how far technology has come since then especially with smartphones and picture taking.

From my first show all I remember is looking at them and wondering if I would ever get close to the stage, and then I fast forward to the recent stint in Vegas I did to see them at the table near the stage...if youíd told my 16/17 year old self that iíd Be front row at a Backstreet Boys concert and meeting them Iíd have laughed in your face.

Anyone else feel that way when you look back on your teenage self?



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 20, 2019, 07:37:06 PM
Welcome back!  Hope you're feeling better.  I'm glad you got a new keyboard.  It's so hard to write when it's not convenient!

I remember the days of disposable cameras!  I took my real camera to my first two concerts, Millennium and Black & Blue, but at the B&B concert they had signs everywhere about the no camera policy that my mom took very seriously.  She refused to let me bring my camera in because she was convinced I would get caught and either get kicked out or have it confiscated.  So I have NO photos from that concert - sad!  After that I learned to bring disposable cameras so it wouldn't be a big deal if they did get confiscated, but that never happened.  The only venue I've ever seen actually be strict about cameras for a BSB show was the House of Blues the first time I was there.  They were actually trying to track down people who were taking pictures, but I still took plenty and didn't get caught.  They must have given up on that because it hasn't been an issue any of the other times I've been to that venue.

I totally feel the same way.  As much as my teenage self used to joke about marrying Brian or sneaking backstage at a BSB show, I never actually believed I would be lucky enough to meet them.  That kind of thing only happened to girls on MTV or girls in fanfics.

That said, I did actually "meet" Howie unexpectedly in 2001, when I was 16.  I was in downtown Chicago with my high school drama club to go shopping and see a show, and Howie happened to be signing autographs at the Steve Madden store.  I had no idea he was going to be there; we just happened to be in the mall and saw this huge line of people waiting, and we asked what they were waiting for and found out it was Howie!  So my friends and I spent the rest of our shopping time standing in line.  There were so many people, they wouldn't let him keep signing autographs by the time we got to his table, but we did get to go by and say hi and shake his hand.  I was so nervous, I just blurted "Hi, I love you!"  I didn't wash my hand the rest of the day.  But it would be another 7 years before I actually had a proper meet and greet with the "whole" group - and 12 years before I finally met Kevin!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on July 20, 2019, 09:26:01 PM
I didnít hear Howie new CD sorry so I canít tell you what I think about it.
At center Bell in Montreal they are very strict about no pictures rules.
Every time I see the group in concert I look back at my teenager years.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 20, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
I'm not sure how I feel fully about DNA just yet in comparison to their other albums. Some of their strongest songs in years are on that album, like Breathe or Passionate. I also tend to group albums so like for me, their "peak" which would be the Red Album through Chapter One. Their "indie era" which is Never Gone through In A World Like This. And DNA to me definitely speaks to a new say...time for them? So for me, Millennium is their best peak album, In A World Like This is their best indie album, and it's too soon to shuffle DNA in there. TIU definitely trend chased but I'll say forever that to me NG did so too. Pop/rock was definitely the trend back in 2004/2005 and Jive has been known to meddle.

I also don't think they'd sacrifice too much of the creative control in their deal with RCA. Mainly because I feel that Kevin definitely wouldn't be okay with that. Yes it's good to see them writing on the songs but it's never been a must for me. I think part of the reason DNA took as long as it did was because they all had their own creative ideas and it took them ages to compromise LOL.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 12:05:21 AM
It does get hard to compare the albums to each other when music styles have changed and their sound has evolved over the years.  I like the idea of eras, and I agree with the best in each era.  Of the indie era, IAWLT is the only album that has aged well for me, but it's way too soon to see how DNA will fare over time.

I also agree about them not wanting to give up much creative control at this point.  As I think Nick said in that video clip I posted, they have a ton of experience to draw on, and they should trust themselves to make good decisions - and others should trust them, too.  I definitely think the eclectic feel of DNA, genre-wise, comes from them having so many ideas and needing to compromise.  I like that they have a lot of different styles of music on it - something for everyone.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 12:08:01 AM
I didnít hear Howie new CD sorry so I canít tell you what I think about it.

Has anyone else heard Howie's album?

I think it's adorable!  It's exactly what you would expect from a Howie album for kids - it's super cheesy, but cute and fun and very personal.  I feel like I learned a lot about Howie from listening to it.



Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on July 21, 2019, 03:23:51 AM
I really do love DNA. I listen to it twice on my trips to and from Buffalo, but I really think Millennium will always stand out as their best one for me. If I were doing albums in order of how much I enjoy listening to them, DNA would come in 2 with IAWLT a close 3rd. If it werenít for the song Try, it would probably be tied for second. Never Gone would come in 4th with Black and Blue rounding out the top 5. All the others, I enjoy a song here or there but not enough to even include the albums into the mix.

I havenít heard Howie's new album and kind of have no desire to. (Sorry Howie) lol the only solo albums Iíve ever listened to were Nicks. I donít care about them as solo artists. I never have and never will. Sorry boys, youíre BSB to me. Nothing personal, but I like the way they all sound together. My least favorite part of their earlier shows was when they sang a solo song. I used to hate that.

I can say one thing about DNA, I love how they positioned the songs on the album. Three killer songs in a row. Breathe, New Love and Passionate. Bang bang bang!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on July 21, 2019, 01:36:04 PM
Agreed about the positioning.

I know Julie's heard this cause I sent it to her. But have you guys heard Do You Remember? It was a Japan solo track and SO GOOD. https://youtu.be/4jEUv3QHepA


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 03:49:36 PM
I also agree about the track order on DNA.  It's impossible to pick the best side of the record because both halves of the album have strong songs.  They did a good job spreading the boring ones out and putting good ones back to back.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 21, 2019, 09:51:50 PM
I discovered this wiki page called Fanlore last night that has a BSB section with info about the fandom and fanfic: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Backstreet_Boys  There's a link to the article on AC at the bottom.  Neither article is very in-depth, but it was still cool to see some of my favorite fanfic sites and stories included.  I considered signing up so I can go edit and add some more information, but that feels like a big undertaking that would suck up a lot of time better spent doing something else (like actually writing fanfic?).

There's a list of "Notable Fanworks" on the BSB article, divided into two waves.  I have at least heard of every story on the first wave and none of the stories on the second wave LOL.  By the mid-2000s, I was pretty much only reading my friends' stories and stuff on AC, so if they weren't posted here, I probably never came across them.  Although, looking at the stories listed, they all seem to be NSYNC stories, not BSB, so I'm not even sure why they're included.  This is the problem with wikis LOL.

Anyway, just wondering what other sites and "notable fanworks" you would include if you were the one editing?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on July 25, 2019, 07:11:07 AM
The first BSB concert I went to was Unbreakable, me and my friend were lucky enough to be front row too :)  We had AJ throwing his water bottle over us (it was a very hot day) and we touched hands with Nick as he ran past lol.  I've been to every tour since then.

I've not listened to Howie's album because I know it's for kids and I've done my share of kid stuff over the years.  But I might give the one you posted a listen when I'm home from work and able to have sound on, same goes for the deleted scene from the documentary.

I'm still loving the DNA album too, I don't listen to every song all the time, but still have my favourites.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on July 26, 2019, 05:16:11 PM
Front row for your first BSB concert!  Wow, lucky!!  You must have been so spoiled after that!  Once you know what it's like to be in the front row, it's hard to be further back.

You should definitely listen to Howie's album when you can!  It's for kids, but it's not like obnoxious KidzBop or "The Wheels on the Bus" kind of kids songs.  They're all autobiographic al songs about Howie's childhood, and they're cheesy, but fun.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on July 29, 2019, 04:52:00 AM
Yeah it seems every time I see them I end up further and further back now :(  Can't beat that front row feeling.




Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on August 28, 2019, 05:12:37 PM
Ugh, no one has posted in this thread in almost a month!  Sad.

Just wanted to take a moment to appreciate this photo Brian shared: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1uDQuxFFkz/  Remember when a shirtless pic of Brian (post-surgery) or Nick used to be like finding Bigfoot?  They've come so far!  What a great time to be alive.  :D


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 01, 2019, 09:31:52 PM
Dude my jaw dropped when I saw it LOL


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 02, 2019, 06:33:15 AM
Yes, what a time to be alive lol, loving all their Instagram photos, especially shirtless ones :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 04, 2019, 04:55:00 PM
I'm loving the pics and videos of them visiting kids in the hospital too - so sweet!  Seems like Brian and Nick have been hanging out more on this tour.  Like that one pic of them in the pool mocking Howie on his bday - Nick was at Brian's house!  I love to see them acting all Frick & Frackish.  It's probably nice for Brian that Nick finally grew up and settled down and turned into this family man that he can relate to again, and I'm sure Nick appreciates Brian not being a dick, a la House of Carters "Blurry Brian" who acts like he's embarrassed of him.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 04, 2019, 06:14:55 PM
Thatís good to see Brian regain self-confidence with shirtless pictures


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 04, 2019, 09:16:30 PM
Yes!  He has nothing to be self-conscious about.  He's so freaking hot and in great shape!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 06, 2019, 01:13:24 AM
OMG the posing like Howie photo was hilarious. I love that Brian and Nick are bonding again. Honestly they were always my favorite bromance besides Kevin/Nick and so I'm happy for a Frick and Frack revival.

So, thoughts on Let It Be Me? It's different but I dig it. Also...it's a Nick and Howie song, which is so different.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 06, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
That was so hilarious! I love we got a shirtless photo out of 4/5 of them for the sake of razzing Howie on his birthday, LOL.

I'm not blown away by Let It Be Me, but I do like it.  It sounds like a Justin Bieber song LOL.  I don't mean that as a diss; it just does.  I could totally hear Biebs singing it.  Howie does get a lot of time to shine in it - go Howie!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Rose on September 06, 2019, 03:10:13 PM
The only Bieber song I know is Somebody to Love lol, so I don't hear him on it LOL. It's very radio friendly.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 06, 2019, 04:25:38 PM
I've listened to the new song a couple of times, it's alright and I see what you mean about it being a bit Bieber like.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 06, 2019, 04:27:29 PM
Me I donít like this new song


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 06, 2019, 05:53:52 PM
I havenít been able to find the song to listen to. Whenever I click onto that smart url it only plays a snippet of the song and none of the choices it gives me are letting me listen to it for free. From what I heard, it sounds ok thus far lol

If itís on YouTube itís not working for me. You tube in general.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 06, 2019, 06:22:48 PM
ITunes Store have it if you want to hear the song


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 07, 2019, 02:54:58 AM
iTunes would only let me listen to a little bit of it. I finally heard it via you tube. I liked it. Kind of repetitive and typical pop song-y but it was nice hearing a Nick Howie lead. Would have been great to hear some harmonies. Maybe if I listen a second time. Maybe itíll get some radio play.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 07, 2019, 10:38:51 PM
I could see it being played on the radio.  It does have a modern pop feel to it.  I'm looking forward to seeing the music video, if only for the eye candy.  Based on the images I've seen, it looks like it will be delicious!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 09, 2019, 08:19:58 AM
Oh I need to see the video for it, when is that released?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 09, 2019, 04:10:54 PM
Today!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-VHOCyrTI  I love it!  It reminds me of the IAWLT this video - pretty, but powerful.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Carter-Orange on September 10, 2019, 02:54:44 AM
I watched it yesterday and loved it!  The song is stuck in my head whilst sitting here in work :)


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: mare on September 10, 2019, 04:12:05 AM
Great video. The song is stuck in my head too. I didnít think it would but after only one real listen, I found myself humming it back all day. Good for them and their pop repetitions lol


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 10, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
It's a grower!  I'm liking it more and more too.  It's definitely catchy!


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 17, 2019, 07:43:10 PM
Did you see what Nick post on Twitter?


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: RokofAges75 on September 18, 2019, 06:23:57 PM
Yes.  I don't even know what to say.  I feel bad for Lauren and him that what should be an exciting, happy time for their family has been tainted by more of his crazy family drama.  I wonder how much of this was sparked by Aaron hanging out with Jane for that reality show they're doing.  The apple doesn't fall far from the tree there; they are obviously both mentally ill.  I'm glad Nick has Lauren and Angel in his life.  I hope he will be able to lay low in Vegas until this blows over, and I hope Aaron gets the help he needs.  It's disgusting to see fellow attention-seekers taking advantage of his mental issues to further their own agenda.


Title: Re: Conversations about all things BSB related...
Post by: Mistral on September 18, 2019, 09:32:28 PM
Aaron is dangerous and he need help very quickly before he does something. Nick doesnít need that in his life right now with his new baby who arrive very soon.