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Fic Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: nicksgal on January 16, 2021, 05:06:31 PM
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Nick's being really picky about how I edit this chapter (I think because he knows we both love it). So I figured rather than complaining about this in the writing thread and seeing as many of us have had issues with him being loudly and persistently picky, it probably deserves its own thread.
So, I guess, here's everyone's chance to complain about when the Boys are being particularly vocal about something you're writing. And maybe get some commiseration or talk shop and bounce things off each other.
It can also be a discussion, why is Nick so picky about what he says and does? Who's the least picky? Who always surprises you when they're picky? Is Nick ever surprised about someone else being picky? haha
When in doubt, just remember: "First, find out what your hero wants, then just follow him!" -- Ray Bradbury (Given the tiny, persistent demon Nick seal of approval!)
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Nick was very particular about this last chapter that I posted. I had it written a different way originally. There was a whole scene at AJs apartment that I cut, then the ending got edited a bunch of times before I was happy with it... Well, before Nick was happy with it LOL he was just really annoying with this update. He usually doesn't care what I do. AJ sometimes bugs me but he's usually the comic relief so it's more of "No I should say this. It's funnier."
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Brian and AJ both tend to say funnier things intentionally for me, so if they decide they have something funnier to say, I just let them have at it.
Don't you hate when you end up rewriting a scene so many times when Nick's being picky? Like I changed what you want, why do you still hate it?!
At this point, we've been together many years, so I typically pause and stare when I feel him popping up because I know he has something to say and I'll want to mull it over in silence for a minute. I used to do the multiple rewrites, but he would often badger through three or four versions before the right one hit and I've gotten to the point where I can walk it through my brain instead of on paper most of the time. So if whatever I come up with after pausing and staring still doesn't feel right, I get up and start pacing my house or doing something mundane like dusting or washing dishes while I ponder. I'll usually figure it out after that.
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I got stuck, so I did what I mentioned before and now that my dinner is ready, Nick's ready to keep writing. You're a jerk, Nick.
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My Nick has been unconscious for like five chapters now, so he hasn't been giving me any grief. I guess that's probably why I don't have this problem very often. LOL
Sorry he's being a picky jerk to the rest of you!
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My Nick has been unconscious for like five chapters now, so he hasn't been giving me any grief. I guess that's probably why I don't have this problem very often. LOL
Well it's easy to not have a picky Nick if you knock him unconscious! But he only puts up with that so many times and then he fights back, haha.
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Lmao Julie. Yeah I don't wanna spoil it for Dee but you read this last chapter and Nick kept telling me to change that fight scene so many times lol. He was just being super picky. Usually he doesn't have much to say but this time he did.
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Usually he doesn't have much to say but this time he did.
So if Nick's not usually picky at you, who is?
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Oh it's definitely Nick lol. Sometimes Brian too depending on what km writing.
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Oh it's definitely Nick lol. Sometimes Brian too depending on what km writing.
Haha, if he's been quiet this time in general, then it must mean he's pretty happy with whatever you're writing. ;)
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Lmao Julie. Yeah I don't wanna spoil it for Dee but you read this last chapter and Nick kept telling me to change that fight scene so many times lol. He was just being super picky. Usually he doesn't have much to say but this time he did.
Those kinds of scenes are when I get the most crap from him too - fights and other dramatic conversations. I'm more likely to just go with what he wants in those situations. Otherwise I just knock him out LOL.
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Those kinds of scenes are when I get the most crap from him too - fights and other dramatic conversations. I'm more likely to just go with what he wants in those situations. Otherwise I just knock him out LOL.
I think he gets really particular about fights/arguments because he wants to win. So he figures if he plans out each part, it will go his way and he'll win. He's always really surprised when he does not win, haha.
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Speaking of this thread, Nick is currently fighting me about the chapter of If I Knew Then right now because he’s not in it and he’s upset with me for not including him. LOL
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He loves the limelight, doesn't he? Better give him a good chapter next to make up for it, haha.
Meanwhile, I should stop being nostalgic for Gobosei before self-absorbed PBox Nick comes storming in demanding that I get back to cursory editing his very emotional poisoning.
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Speaking of this thread, Nick is currently fighting me about the chapter of If I Knew Then right now because he’s not in it and he’s upset with me for not including him. LOL
You may need to throw in an anesthesia dream sequence in which Brian walks up a grand staircase and finds Nick waiting for him by the clock, and they kiss, and the room erupts in applause. And then Celine Dion starts singing.
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Omfg I am crying. This reminds me of our Twitter conversation from last night. I actually was debating putting in Brian dreaming too :D
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Omfg I am crying. This reminds me of our Twitter conversation from last night. I actually was debating putting in Brian dreaming too :D
Hehe, I know, that's what I was referencing. You know I'm not opposed to the occasional coma dream - or surgery dream, in this case.
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You may need to throw in an anesthesia dream sequence in which Brian walks up a grand staircase and finds Nick waiting for him by the clock, and they kiss, and the room erupts in applause. And then Celine Dion starts singing.
But did Brian die or not die?
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But did Brian die or not die?
Ah, good question. I guess that's for Tracy to decide.
But Rose definitely died.
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Lol that would be mean. I mean Brian collapsed in the dream with Leighanne in it. Maybe he's happy in this one because Nick's in it. I don't know LOL
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Yeah, don't really kill Brian. Plus, Nick's not dead, so the staircase does not represent the afterlife in this version LOL.
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Ah, good question. I guess that's for Tracy to decide.
But Rose definitely died.
I think history tells us that Brian did not die.
Lol that would be mean. I mean Brian collapsed in the dream with Leighanne in it. Maybe he's happy in this one because Nick's in it. I don't know LOL
I would be happy if someone kissed me and a whole room of people applauded. It's only happened to me once and I bribed them with free catering and an open bar.
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I think history tells us that Brian did not die.
Maybe he's been dead this whole time, like in The Sixth Sense. Oh noes!!
I would be happy if someone kissed me and a whole room of people applauded. It's only happened to me once and I bribed them with free catering and an open bar.
LMAO!
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I did get an idea from this though, you'll have to see what I do bwahaha. *rubs hands together*
I'm also watching Titanic....AGA IN. LMAO. I'm not even like a huge Leo fan or anything I just love his hair. I love that hair.
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I did get an idea from this though, you'll have to see what I do bwahaha. *rubs hands together*
I'm also watching Titanic....AGA IN. LMAO. I'm not even like a huge Leo fan or anything I just love his hair. I love that hair.
I can't wait! Also, I want to watch Titanic so bad right now, but I have to go to bed. I love Leo... and his 90s hair.
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Maybe he's been dead this whole time, like in The Sixth Sense. Oh noes!!
LMAO!
Well at least Nick's not the only one who can see him! Maybe we all see dead people...
I can't wait! Also, I want to watch Titanic so bad right now, but I have to go to bed. I love Leo... and his 90s hair.
Same, adding it to my must watch list after the Labyrinth, haha.
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I did get an idea from this though, you'll have to see what I do bwahaha. *rubs hands together*
I'm also watching Titanic....AGA IN. LMAO. I'm not even like a huge Leo fan or anything I just love his hair. I love that hair.
Hahaha! I can't wait.
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I did get an idea from this though, you'll have to see what I do bwahaha. *rubs hands together*
I loved it!!
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I got to be a dick back to Nick today. It was satisfying.
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Nick is happy with me because this current chapter is all about him.
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I find that when chapters are about him, he's even more particular about how he wants it to go. That's probably why I ended up rewriting/rewording 2/3 of my PNecklace update for today. Oof. Meanwhile in the PBox edits, he's like "Well, now that I'm mute, I'm going to be extra annoying!"
Glad he's being a happy camper for you though. :)
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Ugh, Nick is being so picky again in this chapter. He decided to do something different entirely, so now I have to hack and slash a whole section, but I can't be mad at him because it just makes way more sense and flows better now. I feel like that "I guess" meme.
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I knew the fast was too good to be true. Now Nick's like "I'm really upset, but I don't want to be a dick about it... But also, I think I earned the right to be a dick about it. Convey that." Uh-huh...
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Nick is currently driving me bonkers about this chapter and I’m all out of cookies to distract him with.
He is really not happy with the current chapter I’m working on.
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Have some more cookies! He and I got through the PBox edit some how! Now we have way less to do writing-wise.
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Forgot to add that I ended up finishing the chapter and did not go with what he wanted lol.
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He'll come back and get you next time, haha!
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Just in case anyone wants updates. While Nick was very picky about PBox, he's happy as a clam with the direction PNecklace is taking, so he's pretty quiet right now.
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Glad he's cooperating with you!
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Me too! Meanwhile, they're reminiscing and I'm over here writing like "Aww, I should have written about this stuff way back when instead of hurrying the plot along." Oh well!
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I don't think Nick's being picky, since I went with his reckless plan, but he is cracking me up so much this chapter and I only just started it. I think it's just the casual way he's saying things that are technically true with this huge sh*t-eating grin on his face. I'm dying.
I haven't actually had trouble with him at all lately. Kevin for sure, Howie a little, and sometimes AJ, but Nick and Brian are relatively easy peasy. I guess except for when I tried to force Nick out of his story for a little while, not sure if that was him being picky though or him just quietly waiting to come back.
Hope everyone else's Backstreet Boys are cooperating! lol
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I'm glad Nick has been cooperating for you lately - and cracking you up! My Boys have been good; I only wrote Kevin and AJ in my last chapter, and they had an important conversation that went well. Nick is up next, so we'll see... I hope he gives me an easier time than in his last chapter, when he was just incredibly boring LOL.
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I just want to share his lines, but it would spoil some of the plot, so I cannot... Alas. Still funny. I might laugh every time I see it.
Glad Kevin and AJ's important conversation went well! Wasn't Nick's last chapter the concert chapter? Are you conflating your feelings about concert chapters with your feelings about Nick doing his job being mundane at best and not at all angsty? lol
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I just want to share his lines, but it would spoil some of the plot, so I cannot... Alas. Still funny. I might laugh every time I see it.
Glad Kevin and AJ's important conversation went well! Wasn't Nick's last chapter the concert chapter? Are you conflating your feelings about concert chapters with your feelings about Nick doing his job being mundane at best and not at all angsty? lol
Yes, the concert chapter was the last chapter. And yes... I don't like concert chapters anyway, and then the fact that Nick's part is not particularly angsty makes it worse. I can handle a concert chapter where something tragic happens, but just Nick going about his job normally? Boring... for a fanfic, anyway.
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How dare Nick be boring and just do his job?! That's not a main character trait at all! >:( lol :)
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Nick is being particularly annoying for me too. He keeps butting in and I have to remind him this story centers around Kevin and not him lol.
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Typical Nick, trying to steal the spotlight! I'm not sure if he's jealous of Kevin in my story too or relieved that it's not him LOL. Usually if he's the main character in one of my stories, he ends up in the hospital, and he hasn't in this one... yet.
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You spoiled him in If I Knew Then, Tracy, lol. He is kind of a spotlight hog, so I'm sure he's a bit jealous of this Kevin trend right now.
Julie, that "... yet" is so ominous, lol.
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Julie I need to read your new one. I kinda started and then I got distracted. I'm going to start it though. That yet doesn't sound too reassuring though xD
Nick is also insisting that my next story is about him but I have no idea what I'm writing next. I might attempt to finish Take Me Home which got shelved last year. Or I could really annoy Nick and post the Brian AU that was a spin off of the Nick and Amanda series. I haven't had time to come up with a new idea yet. Hoping it will come to me cause I wanted something to keep me busy over the summer.
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Julie, that "... yet" is so ominous, lol.
Mwahaha...
Julie I need to read your new one. I kinda started and then I got distracted. I'm going to start it though. That yet doesn't sound too reassuring though xD
Nick is also insisting that my next story is about him but I have no idea what I'm writing next. I might attempt to finish Take Me Home which got shelved last year. Or I could really annoy Nick and post the Brian AU that was a spin off of the Nick and Amanda series. I haven't had time to come up with a new idea yet. Hoping it will come to me cause I wanted something to keep me busy over the summer.
Thanks! I hope you're able to get into it if you give it another try.
I hate that feeling of not knowing what you're going to write next and the process of trying to figure it out. I would love to see you come up with another Nick idea, but it's so hard to just come up with an idea on demand.
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Nick is also insisting that my next story is about him but I have no idea what I'm writing next. I might attempt to finish Take Me Home which got shelved last year. Or I could really annoy Nick and post the Brian AU that was a spin off of the Nick and Amanda series. I haven't had time to come up with a new idea yet. Hoping it will come to me cause I wanted something to keep me busy over the summer.
You're close to finishing History, yeah? Maybe WADD isn't a bad thing afterward. Test out some of the things you already have started (or have ideas for), and maybe while you're playing around with them, one will stick or you'll come up with something new. And hey, if Nick gets his way, then he gets his way, lol.
I'll probably be WADDing at the same time as you, so we can cheer each other on through it! :)
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You're close to finishing History, yeah? Maybe WADD isn't a bad thing afterward. Test out some of the things you already have started (or have ideas for), and maybe while you're playing around with them, one will stick or you'll come up with something new. And hey, if Nick gets his way, then he gets his way, lol.
I'll probably be WADDing at the same time as you, so we can cheer each other on through it! :)
I will probably not be WADDing along with you two this time because MBK won't be done for a while, but I was just thinking, if you do find yourself flitting from idea to idea, it might be fun to start a thread to share sneak peeks and get opinions. Maybe that would help sway you one way or another or further develop ideas.
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I will probably not be WADDing along with you two this time because MBK won't be done for a while, but I was just thinking, if you do find yourself flitting from idea to idea, it might be fun to start a thread to share sneak peeks and get opinions. Maybe that would help sway you one way or another or further develop ideas.
I would be really impressed if you somehow ended up WADDing with us! That would be a really productive June!
That could be fun! I think I may have my plan figured out, but I might feel differently once I finish up PNecklace, so I'm trying not to think too hard about it for eight more chapters, lol.
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I really want to redo my storm chasing story idea that I wrote in like 2012 that I didn't finish. I kind of want to switch things around and make Nick the main character instead, which obviously Nick would love that lol. I need to do a lot more research before I even tackle that idea and like I said before there's just not enough time to. I had a few random ideas I was playing with a few months ago but never really felt compelled to do anything with. I might try playing with them some more though.
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I thought your storm chaser one sounded interesting! I hope you do end up reworking it eventually. But I feel you on research feeling daunting. It's part of why I'm putting off that Nick as Brian's guardian angel story for a little bit... among other reasons.
I'm sending you good writing vibes as you finish regardless. Maybe something will spark a new idea. :)
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So close to being done! Just finishing the last scene! However, Nick was being a brat earlier. He said something to the effect of "Hey, I'm thinking about (spoiler). Remind everyone about that. It will justify what I do next." "Nick, you're right, but it was very--" "Remind them!" So... this chapter got darker than intended, I suppose... Oops. :shrug:
Edited: I accidentally added the spoiler tag, lol!
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Yay!! Go, go, go!!! Leave it to Nick to be a brat before the very last scene!
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He had one job to do according to the others, but let's be honest, realistically he and I both knew he wasn't going to do it, lol. Given that it involved doing nothing and he loves to do things. At least he thought about any readers out there and decided to bring them deeply into his head for the ride. ::)
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Nick is currently upset with me because he's spent the last two chapters of Take Me Home unconscious lol. He's mad that I let AJ and Brian team up together too. Lmao. Oops?
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Yeah, Nick does not like to be unconscious, unless he's still the center of attention. Beware - this can lead to cheesy coma dreams.
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LMAO!
Can confirm, Nick does not like being unconscious. If he's vaguely lucid, expect his weird bodily functions to also make an appearance, lol. I meant this as snoring, but it could really be anything. :shrug:
Actually, now that I think about it, he's currently unconscious or sleeping in every story I'm working on. Are we all in a weird Nick coma dream together? lol
Tell Nick that ARok needs some love too and hang in there through his misplaced anger.
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Nick isn't liking that I've now put him in a coma twice during this story. He started out the story in a coma.
I don't think he'll be having any dreams. Unless I want to be mean and have the entire story be a figment of his imagination.
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LOL! Yeah, he hates when it gets repetitive unless it's everyone fawning over him, doesn't he? ::) I feel like that's not in your plans, but you're right, he would be pissed and it would be hilarious!
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Wow, and here I am writing a story where Nick is going to be conscious all the way through! It's been a while since I've written one of those. That's probably why I've had a harder time with the Nick chapters in this story LOL.
He's probably pissed the other boys haven't gathered around his bed and sung him out of his coma yet, Tracy.
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I think he is because I told him there wouldn't be any singing, he's just gonna have to wait. I've been pretty mean to him in this story actually LOL. he's used to having his way and he hasn't been getting it.
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Wow, and here I am writing a story where Nick is going to be conscious all the way through! It's been a while since I've written one of those. That's probably why I've had a harder time with the Nick chapters in this story LOL.
He's probably pissed the other boys haven't gathered around his bed and sung him out of his coma yet, Tracy.
You did say if he's giving you trouble, you like to knock him out, lol.
Tracy! We need a code Black & Blue, stat! lmfao!
I think he is because I told him there wouldn't be any singing, he's just gonna have to wait. I've been pretty mean to him in this story actually LOL. he's used to having his way and he hasn't been getting it.
You show him who's boss! When you let him have his way, he goes off thinking he gets to cheat death, lol.
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Well Nick can’t complain too much, I’m giving him a flashback in Chapter 36. So he is gonna have to deal with what I give him LOL. He should just be happy that AJ and Brian saved his life and suck it up.
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But then he would have to thank them and express humility, which is the opposite of being the center of attention, lol. Hopefully his flashback goes well. :)
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You did say if he's giving you trouble, you like to knock him out, lol.
Tracy! We need a code Black & Blue, stat! lmfao!
It's true LOL. You never know, I may change my mind.
Dying at code Black & Blue! That's a keeper!
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It's true LOL. You never know, I may change my mind.
Dying at code Black & Blue! That's a keeper!
There's still time! lol
Yes, that is one of the better jokes I've made, lol. :biggrin:
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Nick is really not going to be happy with me if I carry out the ending to Take Me Home that I thought of this morning. Muahahahaaha
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Go for it!!
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It's so mean lol I laughed when I came up with it.
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Do it! Do it! Do it!
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It's so mean lol I laughed when I came up with it.
A mean ending is okay as long as it makes sense and fits the story. If it does, then do it!
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This ending that I came up with actually does fit. I don't want to give much away for anyone reading, but the way it ends will make a lot of things in the story that happened make sense. It's a science fiction story. It started with Nick waking up from a coma and he had lost his memories. Things are explained a bit as the story progresses. The ending I came up with is kind of a happy ending but also very mean at the same time.
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I always like an ending that can be many things at once. :) Hopefully Nick's accepted his fate now, lol.