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Author Topic: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!  (Read 47733 times)

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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #150 on: October 07, 2007, 11:09:35 PM »

Before you gave your fic that rating were you aware of exactly what an NC-17 rating is? I'm not trying to be condescending, I'm curious. In the film world, both ratings R and NC-17 mean that it's not appropriate for persons under 17, but in different ways.

Rated R: "An R-rated motion picture may include adult themes, adult activity, hard language, intense or persistent violence, sexually-oriented nudity, drug abuse or other elements..."

Now, given that I have read both of the fics you've noted here, does that not seem like a more appropriate rating? By giving your fic an NC-17 rating you are saying that it is for adult eyes only because it is pornographic or obscene in nature, and should be off-limits to children. I don't very well believe that your writing is so obscene that it is NC-17, unless you just haven't gotten to the beastiality/S&M/heroine overdose scene yet. 


Thank you jullilly for clearing that up for me....honestly I had no idea!
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #151 on: October 07, 2007, 11:27:29 PM »

I thought it might help to actually see what was being considered as NC-17 and why we choose not to feature stories that are so intensely graphic in nature like visuals, child molestation and rape themes. We feature R rated stories all the time... hell, the feature story for this month is R rated for violence, so if you consider that you were probably putting yourselves into the wrong category for what was expected of the story you'll see that you are just as able to be seen as everyone else.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #152 on: October 08, 2007, 12:34:21 AM »

Thank you though, I had always seen NC-17 as a story with alot of graphic sexual content and anything worse was like X or higher.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #153 on: October 08, 2007, 07:51:40 AM »

Thank you though, I had always seen NC-17 as a story with alot of graphic sexual content and anything worse was like X or higher.

You can have an NC-17 without sex too, but consider that Hostel (the movie) is still only rated R, so the violence has to be pretty darn graphic to move up a rating, same as the sex (it's usually things like incest, and graphic rape, and erotica). Before their was NC-17 that rating was the X rating. So they are considered to be nearly the same except X puts the focus on sex where NC-17 could be violence, or just graphic content.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #154 on: October 08, 2007, 02:23:12 PM »

Interesting... .glad I learned something new! LOL The most violence my stories have is a physical altercation that's more funny than anything.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #155 on: October 08, 2007, 03:48:23 PM »

Hehe, yeah, I honestly don't think I've ever read a fanfic that compared to a movie like Hostel or something LOL.  There are some visuals that are probably NC-17 for being like porno on a page LOL, but generally the ones with plots are probably only R.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #156 on: October 09, 2007, 01:57:20 AM »

lol Seriously, I hated Hostel (major gore fest) I couldn't believe it only got an R rating. But yeah compared to what we've learned, it's become a lot easier to gage what rating things should be.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #157 on: October 09, 2007, 02:23:53 PM »

Chaos, you thought you were late to this party.. so guess what, I beat you to that.. ;)
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #158 on: October 09, 2007, 05:25:25 PM »

Chaos, you thought you were late to this party.. so guess what, I beat you to that.. ;)

You're so late, it's not even fashionable lol
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #159 on: October 16, 2007, 10:58:11 PM »

although im a fairly new writer to ac, i totally understand what you mean. mine have plots, or at least i take my time to build one. but i think for other stories, it depends on the subject. normally if it opens up with sex and the rest of it is kind of smutty for the most part, that's a different case. but yeah, NC17 stories aren't really recognized for their merit as much as r rated or anything more tame. i mean just because it says NC17, people automatically think there's no real substance to it which is totally not true.

now cuz im new, im not sure what people think of my stories but im hoping for a good set of feedback just to know if anyone's reading.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #160 on: October 17, 2007, 01:47:47 AM »

hey Mariah, what's your AC name? Are you Mariah over there too?
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #161 on: October 17, 2007, 08:35:01 AM »

although im a fairly new writer to ac, i totally understand what you mean. mine have plots, or at least i take my time to build one. but i think for other stories, it depends on the subject. normally if it opens up with sex and the rest of it is kind of smutty for the most part, that's a different case. but yeah, NC17 stories aren't really recognized for their merit as much as r rated or anything more tame. i mean just because it says NC17, people automatically think there's no real substance to it which is totally not true.

now cuz im new, im not sure what people think of my stories but im hoping for a good set of feedback just to know if anyone's reading.

Did you read the whole thread? Most of the people who had their stories as NC-17 had put the incorrect rating on them, so this whole discussion ended up kind of defunct when those authors then went and changed their ratings to the correct, less severe ones. If you look in the FAQ there's a post with the AC standard for rating fics, so you'll find that the stories in question in this thread are now R rated.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #162 on: October 17, 2007, 02:08:32 PM »

i read most of it but i missed that part.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #163 on: October 17, 2007, 02:42:16 PM »

haha I do that a lot. I skim really long threads and I totally get repetitive.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #164 on: October 17, 2007, 02:53:22 PM »

im lazy, plus my foot is hurting like a mutha and that messes usually with my train of thought. i have to go to work tomorrow too which is bogus cuz now its worse than it was before.
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