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Welcome => Rules and News => Topic started by: julilly on May 24, 2008, 09:02:21 PM
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Recently there have been new reports of plagiarism on Absolute Chaos.
I will reiterate right now that plagiarism is NOT tolerated, and you WILL be caught. We are pretty good at apprehending the "suspects".
Given that these issues have been brought up I'm going to give you all a little lesson. For anyone who has considered copying someone else's fic (even if it's from 1998) or anyone who is interested in knowing how people are caught in the act, I give you lesson number one from Professor Julilly's Moderating101 manual.
Plagiarists and the internet.
People who want to copying the hard work of other's rely on the anonymity of the internet. They believe that by turning an NSync fic into a BSB fic or a BSB fic into a Busted fic that no one will catch on, because no one can read every fic indexed on the internet... right?
That is true, to a degree though many people read outside of the fandoms that you may read, and occasionally come across familiar works. These people, or "informants", will contact moderators with information regarding similar works. This is the top way that plagiarists are found.
There are many other ways that people like myself, Mare, and Chaos can implement to catch thieves though. There is a fantastic feature on the internet-machine called Copyscape. You put in a website, and it will find every other page on the internet that is either identical or too similar to be coincidence. By the power of Google, we can perform random checks on those who may have been accused of plagiarism.
Another helpful tool to use against plagiarists is Google Alerts. You can put in information (like a website, say) and it will periodically check its own databases in search for plagiarism.
The internet is very well indexed thanks to corporate giants like Yahoo, Google, and MSN.
If you want to have your name on a not that well known, mediocre, fanfic at least put your fingers to better use and write it yourself.
That concludes today's lesson, but tune in next time for the next thrilling instalment: Bouncing messages, and how to properly type your own email address.
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Very well said Julilly. Now if there was a way to track down spammers life would be grand!
You know there is a small grocery store around the block from where I live that posts names of people who write bad checks up on their huge bulletin board right outside by the street. I always get the biggest kick out of that.
We are ready to make our own bulletin board on this site with the people who are plagerizing others works. So if you are looking for a popular story and it suddenly went bye bye bye...no pun intended... this is probably one of the stories we are talking about!
Stay tuned for that as well. We mean it, if you are dumb enough to plagerize than be prepared to be called out for it!
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If spammers were people they'd be a lot easier to catch, but being that they're robot computer machines of internet destruction... it's a tricky one.
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Unless they are mandroids!!!
Dun dun dun
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I just wanted to say thanks again for being on top of this. :)
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aww not a problem. Nice to see you join in on the fun :)
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Unless they are mandroids!!!
Dun dun dun
dude! Mandrois ROCK!
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Down with the Tanjas of the world!!! I'm all for public humiliation of criminals - you should totally post names on the forum!
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^Agreed! Plagiarism is totally lame!
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Down with the Tanjas of the world!!! I'm all for public humiliation of criminals - you should totally post names on the forum!
Or the news page....
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Yup we're thinking about it.
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News page too, definitely.
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I will tell you that the story was called Cheap Thrills and it was originally an Nysnc story called Somewhere in the Middle that this girl just changed the names and posted it as her own.
This is the link to the real story
http://archive.nsync-fiction.com/viewstory.php?sid=28
This girl also had another story on the site called The Walk which we deleted and now we're thinking she might be trying to repost it using another name so if anyone on here has read The Walk (It had a banner of Nick and Mandy Moore) and you think you are reading a very similiar story please let us know.
Her reasoning behind plagerizing was that her friend told her to post it up.
Nice reason lol what a bonehead!
And yes I am calling her out on a public messageboard but if you are going to copy someone else's hard work you best be ready to face what happens if you arte caught!
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She did repost it. This story: http://accidentalchaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=9056&chapter=1
is really "The Walk": http://www.somewhere-someday.com/walk/walkframe.html
Ahh, the power of Google. :D
Let's draw and quarter her!!!
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Oh...My ...GOD! How stupid can one person be!!!
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Stupid enough to post someone else's coherently-written story under a title with no capital letters and an incoherent summary. Even if you didn't know where to find the original version she copied from, anyone can see that the level of writing of the story does NOT match the level of writing of the summary and title.
What a tard, seriously. LOL
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that felt good lol
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It astounds me the lengths people will go for.... I'm not sure exactly? Seriously, why not just come up with your own plot and write your own story? Evidently that requires too much effort.
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The thing is, it also takes effort to change all the names etc... if you are going to take time to do that then at least write your own story. I just added a new item on the site lol Maybe that will stop her?
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LOL I just saw that Mare. You are my hero.
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You're the wind beneath my wings, Mare.
In all honesty, I think she must realize she is too stupid or talentless to write her own story (as evidenced by the incoherent summary of her latest crime), yet she wants the "glory" that goes along with writing good fanfic, so she just steals them instead. Which just proves her stupidity. Stupidity to the third power, apparantly, since she tried it at least three times LOL. Sad!!
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One of those was mine. It was laughable that she tried to do it. I saw in some replies where she didn't even change the character names and she went back to "fix" it. It's just ridiculous and laughable how stupid she was to think that no one would catch it. The least she could've done was capitalize the names in the one she stole from me. And put a different male lead in. AJ did not fit that characterizati on. At all. Karma, she be a bitch and will track you down no matter what.
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lol welcome to the wonderful world of the AC forum Sugar! Sound like you'll fit right in around here.
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I didn't delete the story so this way anyone who wanted to could go in and comment on what a great job she has done plagerizing and since her account is locked she can't respond lol.
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I didn't delete the story so this way anyone who wanted to could go in and comment on what a great job she has done plagerizing and since her account is locked she can't respond lol.
*sigh* I must say I am really aggitated that someone would plagiarize, let alone, get caught and turn around to do it again! I can't imagine how I would feel if someone stole my story! We all put so much time and effort into our writting...eve n if it sucks fat furry monkey butt, it's still THAT person's work and it f'd up that people have no problem disrespecting others like that! UH the nerve! >:(
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Mare, you are my hero forever! :-*
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*sigh* I must say I am really aggitated that someone would plagiarize, let alone, get caught and turn around to do it again! I can't imagine how I would feel if someone stole my story! We all put so much time and effort into our writting...eve n if it sucks fat furry monkey butt, it's still THAT person's work and it f'd up that people have no problem disrespecting others like that! UH the nerve! >:(
I know! The fact that she did it to begin with was annoying enough but then to have the nerve to try to repost the same story on the same site just under a different pen name and title was just ridiculous! it's hard work to write. I mean it's a lot of fun, which is why we all do it but a lot of hard wprk as well and the fact that anyone would be hohum about stealing someone else's work makes me pretty mad, if you can't tell. I will smite if I have to.
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I wish we could make this more like "How to Catch a Predator" by the way. lol That's what the thread title reminds me of...
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I actually wish she could respond; I'd love to see what she has to say for herself. Tanja never responded, just moved on to somewhere new where she could plagiarize.
And LOL Dee, I thought of To Catch a Predator too. I looooove that show!! We could have a decoy fan who lures her into a discussion, and then Mare or Julilly come in and are like, "... What are you doing?" and show the documents revealing that the story is plagiarized. If only we could have cops waiting for her when she gets off the internet.
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She wouldn't say anything believe me. I can tell she sees nothing wrong with what she did. Her response to my email was that a friend of hers told her to post the story up. Ah well she said, I guess just delete my account then. This is the kind of person who wouldn't respond to anything being said to her.
I keep checking Vaffel.com to see if she is posting there. I'm not sure of any other sites she would post her story at. Maybe she is over at the busted board posting lmao
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Wow... that is sad. She's probably the kind of kid who copies whole chunks of Wikipedia entries into her essays for school too. *stabbity stab* Plagiarism is STEALING, and it's WRONG! Why is that so hard to understand?? Where are her morals?
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I hope she's a kid. And someone is in there giving her real feedback on the story. Hello? Clue bus? Unless she's being sarcastic which I am not picking up on at all.
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I even emailed her after she made the new penname and she never replied... I also let Kim know that it was plagiarized because she had been reviewing it, and I notice her reviews are gone now.
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Did you see the title change I made to one of her chapters? That one girl was on there giving her glowing reviews and I wanted her to stop! lol
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You guys just made my Internet a more safer place. Thank you. ;D
I've ceased being surprised by anything people do. Really. Some people clearly were born on the stupid side of the maternity ward and they've ridden the stupid bus all their lives...and this girl must be one of them. Moron.
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Did you see the title change I made to one of her chapters? That one girl was on there giving her glowing reviews and I wanted her to stop! lol
Touche, Mare!
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I know I'm late, but I did pick hear all about our latest plagerism drama. I actually had been skimming Cheap Thrills too and you know I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt so stupid me actually thought at first that maybe she was just converting it from Nsync to BSB and missed some names. How many times do you see authors who rewrite an old fic and change names? Now I'm going to be super paranoid every time I see that and think Plagerizer! j/k But it'll def cross my mind now!
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^ That's what I thought originally, too. That's why I left a review at first, pointing it out. but when she continued to do it, I figure she was either too dumb to keep it straight or something was wrong...so I got annoyed and stopped reading. lol.
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I know I'm late, but I did pick hear all about our latest plagerism drama. I actually had been skimming Cheap Thrills too and you know I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt so stupid me actually thought at first that maybe she was just converting it from Nsync to BSB and missed some names. How many times do you see authors who rewrite an old fic and change names? Now I'm going to be super paranoid every time I see that and think Plagerizer! j/k But it'll def cross my mind now!
Mare and I also considered that a possibility, that is why when we emailed the original author we asked if she was just reposting it under a different penname - and she confirmed she wasn't, so that's how we knew.
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I feel the need to come in here and say once again, what a dingbat! lol
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She didn't even capitalize the names when she was changing them LOL. At least Tanja did that.
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LOL she needs to take how to plagerize lessons from Tonja. I bet they have weekly meetings although they probably break into real writers houses to do it.
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^*dies laughing* Does this mean their writing implements are also stolen from real writers? lol
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Probably lol
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Stephen King must be ill knowing all his computer's being used for is find/replace and the internet. lol
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yes but then again he can always get them back by killing them off or turning them into demon robots or something.
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Because that would be a popular story. Plagarists being murdered.
Actually, this would be the perfect story for Fabio flanked by gravestones. lol
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Yes!!! Now THAT is one banner that wouldn't bother me.
Okay I lied, i'd still hate it probably lol
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That's true, because you hate every gbanner even though they may be made of awesome. lol Like Julie's. ;)
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Yes. I love Julie's banner because it's not on the site!! lol
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So if people made them and posted them all over the forum, you'd be happy? It's not technically the site. ;)
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If people posted them all over their homes i'd be happy.
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What about your home? :P
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Nope, that wouldn't make me happy lol
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If it makes you feel better, i'm the same way with posters. I HATE them lmao
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But it's not the site either. lol
Really? Well, I guess you weren't a fan when you would have been teeny and wanted to stare at the Boys 24/7/365. lol
I forgive you.
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Exactly lol I am the one who mocks the people who bring banners to concerts with them.
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The ones with the Boys' faces on them? lol
I bring you the Nick from the past! Ooo, scary.... While Nick is wondering why people think he wants to stare at his face, when he could stare at the banner-holder's friend's chest or something. lol
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LOL exactly. See what all you annoying banner holding people are missing out on? Nick staring at your boobies!
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There's an incentive to make the banners go away. lol Take down your banners, win a date with Nick.
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Yes! lol what a lovely idea, i'm sure he would approve!
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Well, sure he will after we kidnap him and drug him. lol
Julilly, you should be in charge of that part of the banner exterminating plan. ;D
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Oh sure let her take Nick, like that's fair! lol
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But apparently she knows where to score some good crack. She's perfect for the job. lol
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LOL okie dokie then.
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I'm just saying. lol
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I find it's best I don't know anymore for fear it might incriminate me later!
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I doubt it would incriminate you. lol
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Ugh we just had someone email us about where the story Cheap Thrills was on the site! LOL
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Ugh we just had someone email us about where the story Cheap Thrills was on the site! LOL
Oh geez. Obviously, they didn't read the big notice you put up on the front page, huh? Like Ron White says, you can't fix stupid.
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Exactly. I mean, I think I made it huge enough lol
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My faith in the fandom is slowly going away....
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Ugh we just had someone email us about where the story Cheap Thrills was on the site! LOL
I was mostly concerned about the fact that someone emailed us because they couldn't find a story... who cares? What if the author deleted it? We wouldn't even know that kind of information!
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LOL I know, people are dumb.
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I saw that yesturday this person tried to post it again. How many times do they think they can post it without getting caught? Seems like a waste of time to me. ::)
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I saw that yesturday this person tried to post it again. How many times do they think they can post it without getting caught? Seems like a waste of time to me. ::)
:o WTH? Are you serious? I'm finding this annoying now. LOL Where's the internetz loony bin and fanfic lawyers when you need them? ::)
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:o WTH? Are you serious? I'm finding this annoying now. LOL Where's the internetz loony bin and fanfic lawyers when you need them? ::)
LOL! Yeah, it was on the front page yesturday. I thought it was a new story and I opened it to read it and realized it was the same one! LMAO! I was like OMG you've got to be kidding me! LOL! Fan Fic lawyers! That's great!
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:o WTH? Are you serious? I'm finding this annoying now. LOL Where's the internetz loony bin and fanfic lawyers when you need them? ::)
I'm kind of our unofficial fanfic lawyer you might say lol
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yes she is lol
And OMG! I swear i'm going to smite that girl! I mean how many times does one have to be caught before one says "Oops better not try that again?"
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oh and just a reminder. If by chance you do see someone posting a story you know was plagerized, please let the mods know. Either PM us here on the forum or send an email through the site because in this case, neither of us saw that. The numbnuts probably deleted it herself before she managed to get caught again.
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I will definitely keep an eye out for anything suspicious. I've never had that happen to me, but I can only how frustrating and heartbreaking it would be to have someone take your fan fic and claim it as their own. I do make BSB graphics and I've had a couple of people try to pass my graphics as their own. So, I can definitely understand the frustrations of plagiarism. I honestly don't understand how people can do that. The amount of effort this person took to continue posting this story over and over again, they could've been writing their own. Seriously, it makes no sense. LOL!
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I hope none of you think we've forgotten about this! It's been relatively quiet lately but don't forget to keep your eyes open, and so will we. Teamwork! lol
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Go Team! Beat those plagiarists!
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*fires up google search engine* lol
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*fires up google search engine* lol
I'm glad you followed the lesson plan lol
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I'm very adept at following instructions. ;D
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Our newest plagiarist to be identified: "mznickgenecart er"
If you've been following any of her fics, you can find the real ones at: http://backstreetstoriesfic.tripod.com/index.html
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Sickening.
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Copycats suck ass!
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I will tell you that the story was called Cheap Thrills and it was originally an Nysnc story called Somewhere in the Middle that this girl just changed the names and posted it as her own.
This is the link to the real story
http://archive.nsync-fiction.com/viewstory.php?sid=28
This girl also had another story on the site called The Walk which we deleted and now we're thinking she might be trying to repost it using another name so if anyone on here has read The Walk (It had a banner of Nick and Mandy Moore) and you think you are reading a very similiar story please let us know.
Her reasoning behind plagerizing was that her friend told her to post it up.
Nice reason lol what a bonehead!
And yes I am calling her out on a public messageboard but if you are going to copy someone else's hard work you best be ready to face what happens if you arte caught!
joining in a bit late for this, but thats a really crappy story to begin with. no excuses but that story is just not so great. lol
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So according to Rachel on LD, the girl that posted the NSync story is her friend, and the "friend" she was referring to that told her to post it is none other than... drumroll please... TANJA!
Scroll down a little on this thread for the explanation: http://talk.livedaily.com/showthread.php?t=667576&page=5
It wasn't totally ringing a bell, but seeing this thread now, I think this must be what she's talking about.
It doesn't totally make sense to me, but it could be that this other girl is just a few bricks short of a load... but OMG if it really was Tanja behind this one too!! GRRRRR!!!
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I remember that girl. LOL how annoying. I bet Tonja did that at first because she knew we'd all instantly catch her if she posted it herself. Maybe that was her way of testing the waters to see how quickly we'd figure out she plagiarized. When she saw it took us little to no time, she probably decided to wait a while longer before posting! What a tool!!