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[mare]

Just popped in to say I watched the ER reunion and loved it!! So good. You can tell they legitimately really love each other and it showed in their acting and chemistry on the show.

I haven’t caught up in this thread yet. Lol

[RokofAges75]

lol, I can't imagine anyone is out there going "Oh no, another Backstreet Boys fanfic where they're all mostly white guys! Just once I want one of them to be a different gender or race. At least the slash fanfics have some diversity!" I say this jokingly, but I'm sure there's a non-porn version of rule #34 and these stories do exist.

LOL Probably!  I mean, I did read that one where they were rabbits.  If they can be different species, they could be different genders or races.

lol. I've gotten an approximated "and stuff like that" plus a ^{"Hi, I'm Nick"} impression in today. I'm on a roll with BSB jokes, clearly. (Also, please excuse my underline, it's italics in the document, but italics don't translate to quotes here.)

LOL You are on a roll!  I'm glad you worked in Howie saying "et cetera, et cetera, et cetera" instead of "and stuff like that," and I liked Brian doing a high-pitched voice for his baby Nick impression.  Aww!  As you said, you need sweet/funny/cute/cheesy moments as flashes of light in the darkness.

Now that we've talked about PBox&Co broadly today, let's discuss MBK broadly (or someone else's story) from the jumping off point of genre and tropes. Express your concerns or ideas about whatever!

All I've got right now is that I am finally writing new content in my current in-progress chapter!  I feel like I was really focused and productive because I was away from this forum for about two hours since my last post, but I just looked at my word count, and it's only... 337 words.  Ugh. LOL  But I did spend part of that time adding a small exchange to another chapter, part of that time researching Muhammad Ali, and part of that time skimming Nick's book.  This is why I will never win in a writing spring competition LOL.

On another, somewhat related note, I'm confused about the timeline of Nick's version of events in his book.  I was reading the Cool Springs Rehab chapter where he talks about moving to Tennessee after hitting rock bottom in 2006 and finally reading that self-book Kevin gave him there.  But according to more than one celebrity home site I used to research, Nick did not buy his house in Tennessee until December 2007.  So I think maybe he was a year off in how he remembered things.  Blame it on the ecstasy.

[RokofAges75]

Just popped in to say I watched the ER reunion and loved it!! So good. You can tell they legitimately really love each other and it showed in their acting and chemistry on the show.

I haven’t caught up in this thread yet. Lol

Yes!!  What an awesome cast.  They reacted the same way to seeing each other that I reacted to seeing them!  I would love to see more reunions with them and other cast members too.  I'm glad they got so many of the original cast members to join, especially George Clooney, but I would have loved to see Eriq LaSalle, Sherry Stringfield, and other cast members from the later seasons too.

They were right with what they said about it being lightning in a bottle when asked about rebooting ER.  There has never been another medical drama like it, and I think I've tried watching every one that has come on since ER ended.  Even the decent ones, like New Amsterdam and The Resident, don't compare.  They just had the perfect cast, the perfect writers, everything.  They didn't try too hard to be current or political, and yet they did have diverse characters and some groundbreaking storylines, like Jeanie's HIV and Weaver coming out as a lesbian.  And for the most part, they got their medical info right.

I could talk about ER forever LOL.

[nicksgal]

I haven’t caught up in this thread yet. Lol

I think we're harder to catch up with on the weekends, lol. Glad you caught up on the ER reunion like you intended.

[nicksgal]

LOL Probably!  I mean, I did read that one where they were rabbits.  If they can be different species, they could be different genders or races.

But were they rabbits with facial hair? Because I always picture Kevin with facial hair. And did rabbit!Kevin have expressive eyebrows? These are the things I care most about, obviously.

LOL You are on a roll!  I'm glad you worked in Howie saying "et cetera, et cetera, et cetera" instead of "and stuff like that," and I liked Brian doing a high-pitched voice for his baby Nick impression.  Aww!  As you said, you need sweet/funny/cute/cheesy moments as flashes of light in the darkness.

I think I needed some jokes in my life this week, and what better way to do it than nostalgic BSB stuff. And comic relief (yet inwardly serious) PBox Brian, he gets me every time. I hope everyone else laughs at his antics as much as I do.

All I've got right now is that I am finally writing new content in my current in-progress chapter!  I feel like I was really focused and productive because I was away from this forum for about two hours since my last post, but I just looked at my word count, and it's only... 337 words.  Ugh. LOL  But I did spend part of that time adding a small exchange to another chapter, part of that time researching Muhammad Ali, and part of that time skimming Nick's book.  This is why I will never win in a writing spring competition LOL.

Yay, you got to your new chapter! If you needed to research to write good things, then you needed to research. I was also feeling really productive in the past hour and only wrote about 200 words, so I feel you. We're just not as fast as we used to be. I wonder if the lack of pressure to have a new chapter to post right now contributes to that or if it is just because we are more thorough in our while writing research. I think we're about tied. Let's do it! Writing sprint for fifteen minutes right now! Go!

On another, somewhat related note, I'm confused about the timeline of Nick's version of events in his book.  I was reading the Cool Springs Rehab chapter where he talks about moving to Tennessee after hitting rock bottom in 2006 and finally reading that self-book Kevin gave him there.  But according to more than one celebrity home site I used to research, Nick did not buy his house in Tennessee until December 2007.  So I think maybe he was a year off in how he remembered things.  Blame it on the ecstasy.

I repurchased Nick's book with the intent to reread it back in October when I went looking for my I'm Taking Off cd and couldn't find it. I think maybe I had them both digitally and that computer died? Anyway, I haven't yet, purely because I'm trying not to let hot mess Nick interrupt my plucky PBox Nick groove.

Back on topic, I feel like he was in Tennessee when this forum was in its infancy? Maybe check back on old threads and see if we talked about it? That could have been either late 2006 or late 2007, but would surely confirm one way or the other. I agree, I blame the ecstasy. I never trust him or AJ for timeline things anymore except for hard facts (like all five of them meeting each other on April 20, 1993 or when a CD came out). But then, I also did not do ecstasy and have a hard time remembering exact timelines myself, so maybe it's a combination of age and a hard party lifestyle. (I'm slightly exaggerating for my own "hard party lifestyle" here, obviously.)

[RokofAges75]

But were they rabbits with facial hair? Because I always picture Kevin with facial hair. And did rabbit!Kevin have expressive eyebrows? These are the things I care most about, obviously.

It mostly just described their ears and tails.  Kevin had ears that stuck up straight, but Brian had lop ears... or vice versa.  I don't remember.  I just know it was about the two of them fucking like rabbits... as actual rabbits...

Yay, you got to your new chapter! If you needed to research to write good things, then you needed to research. I was also feeling really productive in the past hour and only wrote about 200 words, so I feel you. We're just not as fast as we used to be. I wonder if the lack of pressure to have a new chapter to post right now contributes to that or if it is just because we are more thorough in our while writing research. I think we're about tied. Let's do it! Writing sprint for fifteen minutes right now! Go!

Glad I'm not alone!  I do think it's a combination of doing more research, thinking more about my word choice, and getting distracted more by social media LOL.  But okay!  I will set a timer for 15 minutes when I'm done with this post and report back.

I repurchased Nick's book with the intent to reread it back in October when I went looking for my I'm Taking Off cd and couldn't find it. I think maybe I had them both digitally and that computer died? Anyway, I haven't yet, purely because I'm trying not to let hot mess Nick interrupt my plucky PBox Nick groove.

Back on topic, I feel like he was in Tennessee when this forum was in its infancy? Maybe check back on old threads and see if we talked about it? That could have been either late 2006 or late 2007, but would surely confirm one way or the other. I agree, I blame the ecstasy. I never trust him or AJ for timeline things anymore except for hard facts (like all five of them meeting each other on April 20, 1993 or when a CD came out). But then, I also did not do ecstasy and have a hard time remembering exact timelines myself, so maybe it's a combination of age and a hard party lifestyle. (I'm slightly exaggerating for my own "hard party lifestyle" here, obviously.)

Aww, you should reread Nick's book someday when hot mess Nick won't derail you.  I'm writing about Nick at the tail end of his hot mess phase, so I have referred back to his book often.  I will have to search here and see if we mentioned Nick moving to Tennessee because I don't remember for sure either.  I just feel like he should know when he bought a house and moved to a new state because that seems like a big deal, even if he's done it at a lot?  I know exactly what month and year I moved in to every place I have lived.  But I also have not done ecstasy, and I am generally good with remembering dates or at least years.

I agree, the Boys are pretty bad at that LOL.  They always get dates of albums and stuff wrong.  We fans have a way better memory for that kind of stuff.

Okay, 15-minute writing spring... ready, set, go!

[nicksgal]

Okay, 15-minute writing spring... ready, set, go!

Are we just writing for fifteen minutes or using the website with the timer? lol

[RokofAges75]

I just set my phone timer for 15 minutes and wrote, but I can try it again with the site.  I have to go back and find it.  Is it something we have to sign up for to keep track?

I wrote 232 words, and I only stopped to Google something once.  Next time I will try to not Google anything at all LOL.  Even as I was doing it, I was like, "You could have just made something up and gone back and fixed it later."  It's like a compulsion LOL.

[RokofAges75]

Okay, I found it: https://wordsprints.org/  Should we start a group sprint?

[nicksgal]

I just set my phone timer for 15 minutes and wrote, but I can try it again with the site.  I have to go back and find it.  Is it something we have to sign up for to keep track?

I wrote 232 words, and I only stopped to Google something once.  Next time I will try to not Google anything at all LOL.  Even as I was doing it, I was like, "You could have just made something up and gone back and fixed it later."  It's like a compulsion LOL.

I also couldn't remember the site and just set a timer on my phone, lol. I don't think you had to sign up, but I know it does something different if we're all doing it at once. I don't know if we can see each other's progress or what. Let me re-look into it.

I wrote 356 words and also stopped to google something once, so again, fairly even in our habits, lol! Mine was "can horses walk across deserts?" lol I also thought about just writing it and googling it later, but I did make a conscious effort to glance at the answer (yes, but they need more water than a camel) then move on to writing instead of getting sucked into the anatomy of a camel that makes them better for traversing deserts, lmao.

[nicksgal]

Okay, I found it: https://wordsprints.org/  Should we start a group sprint?

I was typing "nanosprints.or g," that's why I couldn't find it, lol.

I'm down to sprint again. I was getting into the groove despite my horse-related google inquiry.

[RokofAges75]

I also couldn't remember the site and just set a timer on my phone, lol. I don't think you had to sign up, but I know it does something different if we're all doing it at once. I don't know if we can see each other's progress or what. Let me re-look into it.

I wrote 356 words and also stopped to google something once, so again, fairly even in our habits, lol! Mine was "can horses walk across deserts?" lol I also thought about just writing it and googling it later, but I did make a conscious effort to glance at the answer (yes, but they need more water than a camel) then move on to writing instead of getting sucked into the anatomy of a camel that makes them better for traversing deserts, lmao.

Yeah, it looks like you can schedule a group sprint at a specific time and share the link.  I'm not sure what it looks like after that, but it would be fun to try sometime.

LOL I'm glad you did not get sucked in to learning more about camel anatomy.  I google image searched for a picture of a George Foreman grill box LOL.

[RokofAges75]

I was typing "nanosprints.or g," that's why I couldn't find it, lol.

I'm down to sprint again. I was getting into the groove despite my horse-related google inquiry.

Okay, let's do it.  I'll make one to start in five minutes and put the link here in my next post.

[RokofAges75]

Here's the link:  https://wordsprints.org/sprints/XqzKC92bkTIp

[nicksgal]

It mostly just described their ears and tails.  Kevin had ears that stuck up straight, but Brian had lop ears... or vice versa.  I don't remember.  I just know it was about the two of them fucking like rabbits... as actual rabbits...

I'm glad to know that they had different ears. More genetic diversity in their rabbit lineage than their actual lineage, lol.

Glad I'm not alone!  I do think it's a combination of doing more research, thinking more about my word choice, and getting distracted more by social media LOL.  But okay!  I will set a timer for 15 minutes when I'm done with this post and report back.

Yes. In addition to googling my horse question, I also typed something and hit backspace several times. Sometimes it takes a day for me to notice something is off, sometimes it happens in the moment. This time it was many in the moment times.

Aww, you should reread Nick's book someday when hot mess Nick won't derail you.  I'm writing about Nick at the tail end of his hot mess phase, so I have referred back to his book often.  I will have to search here and see if we mentioned Nick moving to Tennessee because I don't remember for sure either.  I just feel like he should know when he bought a house and moved to a new state because that seems like a big deal, even if he's done it at a lot?  I know exactly what month and year I moved in to every place I have lived.  But I also have not done ecstasy, and I am generally good with remembering dates or at least years.

Some day. The sooner I finish writing, the sooner I can get back to reading, lol.

I think it's a great use of memoir to write hot mess Nick. First person account of something you have a second person account of, research!

He might just lump all of that into "what I did right before I read the book Kevin got me." I have some vague memories of places we lived when I was a kid and the apartment between my downtown apartment and where hubs and I live is vaguely fuzzy on dates and address for me. The two that bookend it, I've got down though, lol.

I agree, the Boys are pretty bad at that LOL.  They always get dates of albums and stuff wrong.  We fans have a way better memory for that kind of stuff.

We made it our life's mission to memorize all sorts of things about them! As long as Nick remembers that his favorite color is green, his shoe size is 11, and so on, then I'll forgive him for forgetting exact dates. If history class taught me anything, it's that it's hard to memorize dates, lol.

Okay, 15-minute writing spring... ready, set, go!

I came back right then originally because I had a related thought about Nick's timeline as I was trying to write (lol), and opted to follow your sprint instead of posting it.

Here it is: It's also possible his timeline is right and he rented at first while looking for the right place to buy? But that seems like a planner decision for hot mess Nick's pantser lifestyle.