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Just something that's been bothering me...

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MellzBellz:

--- Quote from: mare on April 02, 2008, 02:52:30 PM ---You've made some good points and I agree. We have been a little on the mean spirited side lately.

I think sometimes we all forget it's a forum and not a private chat and get carried away from time to time.

Personally i'll try to make a conscious effort to not do that anymore and if people don't like it, you should say something. I commend you for speaking out Mel, i'm sure you were a little hesitant about it.



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Thanks Mare! I'm glad that you see where I'm coming from. It did take me a bit to work up how to say it without offending anyone because like I said I know we're not mean people here. we just get carried away. Even I have had some things about stories that weren't nice but I at least try to do it away from any place where it can be viewed by the public like a forum. I just really wanted to get it out there because I know from other Nick romance writers I talk to they've felt a lil hesitant to even post their stories on AC because of the judgement and that's horrible because the whole point of AC is it being a place where you can post any kind of fan fiction and not be judged, whether it be a slash story involving a Nick/ Kevin/Kristin threesome, a fluffy cliched Nick romance, a carefully crafted fantasy story involving all the guys as demons, or even an angsty medical drama that results in chopping legs off LOL. If that was the case AC would have rules only allowing up to a certain rating or only certain genres or fandoms.

I'm just sensitive to this topic as of lately because I've recently reconciled with an author who's a very good friend of mine and that friendship was almost destroyed by both of us being too judgemental towards each others work and streotyping it.

MellzBellz:

--- Quote from: julilly on April 02, 2008, 03:22:07 PM ---People still go on LD when anyone's first impression would be that they're a bunch of immature bratty children

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Oh God lol I REALLY don't want this board to turn into the LD of the fiction world lol Could you imagine?

By the way that wasn't meant to be judgemental towards any LDers LOL

Tri:
Wow, Mel.  I commend you for starting this thread!  I think that it's so important for people to really think about what they say to people and how it affects them.  Everybody comes from different backgrounds and sometimes it's difficult to see eye to eye, but in a forum like this where people have varied viewpoints and diverse writing styles, we really have to be mindful of what we're saying and how it can be taken.  I know that I've definitely made a conscious effort to change this in myself within the past few months and I feel as if I'm improving somewhat.  I'm not saying that it's not a positive thing to learn other people's opinions and try to learn more about diversity in a community - whether online, at school, or in a workplace - but I do think we need to be more conscious about the things we say and how they can be taken out of context. 

Again, I think it's great that you started this conversation.  I think that even though we have obvious differences in our writing and what we enjoy reading, we can learn from one another.  I hope that people really take what you said to heart and AC can be an even better place for readers and writers alike!  :) 

starbeamz:
I'd like to respectfully disagree with some of what you said, Mel.

Personally, I think it was rather pointless to bring up the Nick romance topic because it has been dead for quite some time. Also, I re-read the slash story thread and didn't find anything very offensive in it. We simply said it was odd, but we never said that the story was "OMG AWFUL! the author should be tarred and feathered for ever even thinking of the story idea!"

Honestly, the only things that we're really mean about are Oreos--and we're just doing it all in good fun, so I can see your point in that, but not in the other two instances.

I think it's a little bit ridiculous if somebody is scared off of AC or the forum because we say something not nice about the genre of story that they may be writing. Again, with the diversity, we need to recognize that everyone has opinions and we're all free to express them. Sure, maybe we could be nicer, but those offended people need to not be so hypersensitive (If you knew the school I go to, you'd understand why I'm so incensed by hypersensitivi ty). If someone is having so much trouble taking certain opinions on a forum that is ONLINE, how on earth do they live their real lives offline because people in real life are not nice and things are messy.

We are all real people, with real opinions that I think should be expressed. Could we be a tad less snarky about it? Sure, why the hell not? Should we stop being negative completely? **** no.

And that is my opinion. You are welcome to dispute it, but I've honestly said all I'm going to say on this matter.

Thanks, and have a nice day :)

Sinara:
I actually have to agree with Sarah on this. While I do respect your opinion, I believe that everyone is entitled to speak their minds. Granted, sometimes it may not come out in the nicest tone or the way we meant it to sound, but the whole point of a forum is to communicate and share ideas. Not everyone will always agree, but maybe we could go about being nicer about some things.

As for the Nick genre thing, I think that it has been proven as a fan favorite (as others have said) and that it's hear to stay. There are plenty of non-fluffy Nick stories, but a large majority of them the tend to lean that way. And people like them - they always will.

I also think it is ridiculous to judge a person off of a few comments they've made. Sure, it may not have been the nicest comment made, but maybe they were having a bad day. And if someone were to get scared away from the boards because of one comment, they obviously have much bigger issues than being a member of a mean-spirited message board. Besides, not every comment each of us makes is necessarily going to be all rainbows and sunshine. We all have different tastes and what one person likes, another may not like. It's the way of life. So everyone will eventually disagree with at least ONE post on here. And if people don't want to be online because of that, then maybe they shouldn't be coming to the board if they want  all happiness and perfection.

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