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[mare]

LMAO isn't it nice to see how much we have grown as writers by reading everyone elses pet peeves? I know i've done some of this stuff too.

I remember one of my biggest pet peeves when I first started reading fanfics was when Kevin would call Nick baby. But then I have done that MORE than once in my fics and once I found out he really did call him that, it didn't bother me anymore.

Also I hated the Frick and Frack thing and was always like "Why the hell does everyone do that?" and then I found out it was for real lmao that's what happens when you write AS you become a fan and not because you are already one.

I agree with the Aaron talking like he's five thing too (even though he acts like he's five) And when Nick would act waaay younger than his age in a lot of fics as well. Like he'd be 14 but Kevin would be carrying him to bed and patting his back. It's okay if he's sick I suppose but not just as a nightly ritual lmao

[RokofAges75]

And when Nick would act waaay younger than his age in a lot of fics as well. Like he'd be 14 but Kevin would be carrying him to bed and patting his back. It's okay if he's sick I suppose but not just as a nightly ritual lmao

LMAO yeah, I'm all for the brotherly relationships and cuteness, but that's just weird.

[nicksgal]

And when Nick would act waaay younger than his age in a lot of fics as well. Like he'd be 14 but Kevin would be carrying him to bed and patting his back. It's okay if he's sick I suppose but not just as a nightly ritual lmao

*dies laughing*

[Nijntje]

God, I don't even want to THINK about how many of these I 'used'

[honey]

God, I don't even want to THINK about how many of these I 'used'

well then that means you can only get better, right?  I'm sure we all started out doing a lot of these things.

[Rose]

LMAO isn't it nice to see how much we have grown as writers by reading everyone elses pet peeves? I know i've done some of this stuff too.

I remember one of my biggest pet peeves when I first started reading fanfics was when Kevin would call Nick baby. But then I have done that MORE than once in my fics and once I found out he really did call him that, it didn't bother me anymore.

Also I hated the Frick and Frack thing and was always like "Why the hell does everyone do that?" and then I found out it was for real lmao that's what happens when you write AS you become a fan and not because you are already one.

I agree with the Aaron talking like he's five thing too (even though he acts like he's five) And when Nick would act waaay younger than his age in a lot of fics as well. Like he'd be 14 but Kevin would be carrying him to bed and patting his back. It's okay if he's sick I suppose but not just as a nightly ritual lmao

I used to ALWAYS play off on the Frick and Frack thing, to the point of cheesiness lmao. Thankfully I got better with that and use it like it would be normally. And play off it a lil, like having Brian call Nick Frackolas

And yes, Aaron always seems to be a baby which...yeah he's not anymore. Which is why I don't read Aaron fics.

LOL@the idea of Kevin carrying Nick to bed every night when he's too old and not sick, that sounds like a cheesy porn...

Odd pet peeve of mine, is, even if I don't read it, when I see incest slash. One time I saw some with Nick and Angel...and then there's Brian/Kevin...which is ew. Nothing against anyone who writes slash, props to those who does...but incest slash? no.

[starbeamz]

Odd pet peeve of mine, is, even if I don't read it, when I see incest slash. One time I saw some with Nick and Angel...and then there's Brian/Kevin...which is ew. Nothing against anyone who writes slash, props to those who does...but incest slash? no.

Oh WOW

I don't think I've ever seen BSB incest, but, now that I know it's out there, I think I'm gonna steer clear LOL I remember seeing incest/slash in the Supernatural fanfiction all the time, which they've cheekily named "Wincest" and that creeps me out..which is why I don't really read SN fic.  Even I have my limits 

[moppy]

  Do the pet peeves count if your writing your first fan fic??
I've just started one and I believe I do at least half if not more of the peeves in my story.
I do read alot of fan fic and get ideas on how it's presented and grammar etc but I think my main problem is keeping a good flow to the story.
I tend to get an idea while I'm writing (I don't have a plot just basic ideas and try to fill in the gaps as I write) and mush it into the story and occasionally go off track.

What would be the best thing to help?
(little info, my brain has a huge imagination but it nevers sticks to an idea for long and I'll forget it unless I reread over my story to get back on track)

I agree with all pet peeves everyone's mentioned (with the incest not a fave or anything but if you've ever read VC andrews you'll find that incest pops up in a few of her stories so it doesn't bother me until I think about that these are real people)

[MellzBellz]

Do the pet peeves count if your writing your first fan fic??
I've just started one and I believe I do at least half if not more of the peeves in my story.
I do read alot of fan fic and get ideas on how it's presented and grammar etc but I think my main problem is keeping a good flow to the story.
I tend to get an idea while I'm writing (I don't have a plot just basic ideas and try to fill in the gaps as I write) and mush it into the story and occasionally go off track.

What would be the best thing to help?
(little info, my brain has a huge imagination but it nevers sticks to an idea for long and I'll forget it unless I reread over my story to get back on track)

I think that when writing a story you need your basic plotline first and foremost. You need to figure out the key idea of the story and then build around that. When I started writing UMS I knew I wanted to do something a little darker and more realistic about relationships and I wanted to have two past lovers coming together again and trying to make it work a second time around. Sounds really skimpy and vague right? Well, once you get your basic plot down then you should start to plan your main events. Important ideas that you want to use in your story to back up your plotline. You may want to jot them down in a timeline of sorts. And if you keep getting new ideas thats fine because as you get them you can plot them on the storyline and eventually your story begins to grow and the pieces come together like a puzzle, at least thats what I find. I also like to think of my story in arcs. For example (I'll use my story again since I know you're familair with it) Chapters 31-37 are the Christmas arc where Nick comes home with Alyssa for the holidays. Now i'm on what I call the LA arc, where Alyssa is in LA visiting Nick... I think its easier sometimes w/ a larger to story to break it down section by section like that.

And about the VC Andrews incest thing I find it tolerable in her stories for some reason too. At least in Flowers in the Attic I kind of could see why it happened, being locked in an attic through your teenage years with all those crazy hormones... She at least tries to write about in a way where you see how it is inevitavble I guess. But yea... I REALLY don't wanna read any BSB incest.

[mare]

Do the pet peeves count if your writing your first fan fic??
I've just started one and I believe I do at least half if not more of the peeves in my story.
I do read alot of fan fic and get ideas on how it's presented and grammar etc but I think my main problem is keeping a good flow to the story.
I tend to get an idea while I'm writing (I don't have a plot just basic ideas and try to fill in the gaps as I write) and mush it into the story and occasionally go off track.

What would be the best thing to help?
(little info, my brain has a huge imagination but it nevers sticks to an idea for long and I'll forget it unless I reread over my story to get back on track)

I agree with all pet peeves everyone's mentioned (with the incest not a fave or anything but if you've ever read VC andrews you'll find that incest pops up in a few of her stories so it doesn't bother me until I think about that these are real people)

Congrats on writing your first story! And you know, I almost think everyone has done at least two of those things when writing their first story. The more you write, the better you'll get. As far as advice, Mel gave you some great ideas there. I agree with everything, most importantly, make sure you have a grasp on how you want the story to go before you move ahead. Nine out of ten times people don't complete their fiction is because they don't fully think it through. (Yes I made that statistic up lol but still...i'm sure there's some truth in that!)

Good luck and welcome to the club!

[honey]

Congrats on writing your first story! And you know, I almost think everyone has done at least two of those things when writing their first story. The more you write, the better you'll get. As far as advice, Mel gave you some great ideas there. I agree with everything, most importantly, make sure you have a grasp on how you want the story to go before you move ahead. Nine out of ten times people don't complete their fiction is because they don't fully think it through. (Yes I made that statistic up lol but still...i'm sure there's some truth in that!)

Good luck and welcome to the club!

hey Mare! Did you know that  96.8 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot? -lol

[mare]

^ no, but four out of five dentists have mentioned that before! lol

[moppy]

  Thanks heaps Mel and Mare, given me heaps to think about for when I write.
I think I'll have to buy a notebook for all my ideas coz all the little scraps of paper I have floating around, over and covering my desk is getting intense.

Truthfully I'm not very good with words, pretty much can spell anything you give me without hesitation but make me spit out a sentence and I make Nick look like Enstein!

When I started my story it was a movie in my head and now I'm trying to write it out into a story which as you've read about makes it hard lol but I've kept all the words of wisdom I've read and hopefully my story can improve 10 fold!

@ Mellz - I'm the same with VC, when I read Flowers in the Attic for the first time it made me cry with what happened, all the hardships and heartbreak they went through, I wouldn't have blamed the brother, hormones are terrible especially during teenage years!

LOL you girls are a crack up 

[RokofAges75]

Do the pet peeves count if your writing your first fan fic??
I've just started one and I believe I do at least half if not more of the peeves in my story.
I do read alot of fan fic and get ideas on how it's presented and grammar etc but I think my main problem is keeping a good flow to the story.
I tend to get an idea while I'm writing (I don't have a plot just basic ideas and try to fill in the gaps as I write) and mush it into the story and occasionally go off track.

What would be the best thing to help?
(little info, my brain has a huge imagination but it nevers sticks to an idea for long and I'll forget it unless I reread over my story to get back on track)

Honestly, the best advice I could give you is to just keep writing.    I think experience will definitely help with what you're struggling with.  The more you write, the better you'll get, and the more aware you'll become of how to set up a story.  It's hard to totally plan a story out before you write it - I use outlines, but I didn't always, and even now that I do, I still incorporate ideas I get as I'm writing the story.  I can't possibly plan out every aspect ahead of time.

My other tip would be to try outlining.  When you get an idea, try to plan the basic structure of the story - beginning, middle, and end - and then fill in the gaps as you come up with more ideas.  But if you figure out where the story is going to go before you even start writing it, you'll always have some kind of road map to follow, and that will help you keep on track.

[RokofAges75]

I left my post before I read the other replies, but it sounds like we're all on the same page with advice.

Moppy, another thing I was going to say is that I do all my outlines on the computer... I just start a Word document and keep a running outline going there.  It's mostly just a list of events that I want to happen in the story and other notes for myself.  It's nice to have it on the computer cause I can edit it all I want without it looking messy.  The only bad thing is that if my computer would crash, it'd be gone.  But so far I've managed to escape that happening while I'm actually writing the story.

Notebooks come in handy too though.  I keep a little one around that I jot ideas down in when I don't feel like getting on my computer (like if I'm half-asleep in bed LOL).