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now let's talk about collaborations
« on: August 15, 2011, 04:59:04 PM »

I know it's not a genre but since this month is a collab challenge, I thought this would be a good topic to start.

What are your thoughts on collaborations? Do you tend to take part in them?

Do you enjoy reading them? Is is something you even notice when you are reading a story?

How many people is too many when working in a collaboration?

Who would be your ideal collaborating partner?

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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 06:37:59 PM »

As the resident Collab Whore, I feel the need to reply first LOL.

What are your thoughts on collaborations? Do you tend to take part in them?
As a Collab Whore, I love them. With the right person, they can really bring you to places writing wise you may not be able to reach alone. I've got a long list of collaborations, longer list of people I've collaborated with. Especially if you count the Round Robins! LOL.

Do you enjoy reading them? Is is something you even notice when you are reading a story?
I do, cause sometimes the story comes out even better than it would have if the author tried it alone. It's been awhile since I've been sucked into a really good collab. But two that come to mind immediately are 5 Backstreet Boys In Search of a Plot, and Just One Kiss. Both were pretty funny.

How many people is too many when working in a collaboration?
Um...I have a new rule now LOL. Never more than two people writing a story. (Unless it's a RR, that's the exception). Every time there's been more than two of us, it never works out. Or there's major delays, or something. I adore 00Carter, but with the amount of people, organizing and getting everyone to be somewhat timely is a major bitch LOL.  With two, everything seems to run smooth.

Who would be your ideal collaborating partner?
Already found her! Julie, who I first offered myself up when she needed cowriters for "Code Blue". We bonded more on here, and it grew from there  :). We have the same line of thinking in terms of stories. As a team, I feel like we're fantastic, not to sound braggy. I just mean that some of the stuff we not only come up with, but pull off, is stuff I don't know if we could do alone. And we've definitely rubbed off on each other, she's gotten me to be a LOT more anal about researching for example LOL, and I've gotten her to write more "out there" stuff.
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 07:26:24 PM »

What are your thoughts on collaborations? Do you tend to take part in them? 
I am in one right now, but I would be open for more.  I don't have a lot people banging down my door to collaborate with them though.

Do you enjoy reading them? Is is something you even notice when you are reading a story?
I don't really pay attention to multiple authors.  If they are written well I like them as much as any other story.

How many people is too many when working in a collaboration?
How many people did we start with on 00Carter?  Though I like having multiple people to toss ideas around with, the delays are killer when there are many people.  I've not ever just worked with one other person and had it really go anywhere. 

Who would be your ideal collaborating partner?
Uh.... Carter-Orange....  I love her stuff.  It would be awesome to see if we connected as writers.
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 07:51:01 PM »

What are your thoughts on collaborations? Do you tend to take part in them?
I enjoy collaborating!  Which is weird, because I always hated group projects and working together when I was in school.  I was the type of kid who would rather work alone, because it went faster that way and because sometimes I just knew I'd do a better job on my own. :P (Elitist snob, I know.)  But most of my experiences writing fanfics with other people have been good.  It just depends on who your cowriters are.  Like Rose said, you just have to find the right person to collab with.

What I like about collaborating is that it gives me more confidence to tackle bigger ideas that I probably wouldn't try to write on my own, and it's easy to stay inspired when you have someone with whom to bounce ideas around and share in the writing.

What I don't like about collaborating is flaky co-authors who don't write their share.  That's why finding the right person to write with is so important to the success of the collab.

Do you enjoy reading them? Is is something you even notice when you are reading a story?
When I think of collaborations that I've read, the ones that come to mind have been really good - "Come Together" by Izzy and Cecilia, "Survivor" by Cecilia and Janie, the "Swollen Issues" series by Jenna and Swenglish, the "Nick and Lizz" series by Jenna and Auctor, the "Backstreet General" series by Kat and Amy.  So I guess, yes, I do enjoy reading them, although to be honest, it's not something I really even pay much attention to.  Of the stories I listed, the only one where I could really tell the difference between the two authors' writing was Swollen Issues, and only because Swenglish isn't a native English speaker, and it showed sometimes in her parts.  But I was completely addicted to that series as it was being written, so it wasn't something that took away from my enjoyment of it at all.

How many people is too many when working in a collaboration?
If everyone's on the same page and equally committed to the project... the more, the merrier!  Realistically, though... three's a crowd, and with more than three, it's tough to keep everyone on the same page.  Two is the ideal.  The only collaborated stories I've finished have been with just one co-writer.  The biggest collaboration failures have been with two co-writers (so three people writing together).  The BIG collabs, with lots of co-writers, tend to work out for awhile, at first, when everyone's excited, and then fizzle out.

Who would be your ideal collaborating partner?
Rose!  Rose is the best co-writer I've ever had, for these reasons:
1) She can write, and her writing meshes well with mine.
2) She's not self-absorbed - she doesn't want to take control of everything, she doesn't have to be right all the time, and she doesn't only want to write self-inserts.
3) She also doesn't let or make me control everything and make all the decisions.  We share that part.
4) She is usually on the same page as me, idea-wise, but even when we disagree, we always come to a compromise or agreement quickly and civilly.
5) She doesn't flake out on her commitments.  When she says she's going to write something, she follows through.
This is why I still like collaborating, even though most collaborations I start don't get finished. :P
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 07:52:28 PM »

How many people did we start with on 00Carter?

11... though, oddly enough, we churned out parts faster with 11 than we do now with 6!  That's why commitment means more to me than numbers.
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 07:57:25 PM »

Awwww look at the love :)

Yeah when we disagree it doesn't take long to find a middle ground lol. And seriously you're one of the only cowriters who hasn't flaked out on me. So finding one who can really commit is a challenge too. But I've never been this much on the same page with any of my previous partners.

11... though, oddly enough, we churned out parts faster with 11 than we do now with 6!  That's why commitment means more to me than numbers.

I think it was 13, and then two dropped before we even wrote anything lmao. And I agree, commitment is more important. I've just never seen it work (steadily) with more than one person. Sadness.
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 08:00:42 PM »

Awwww look at the love :)

Yeah when we disagree it doesn't take long to find a middle ground lol. And seriously you're one of the only cowriters who hasn't flaked out on me. So finding one who can really commit is a challenge too. But I've never been this much on the same page with any of my previous partners.

I think it was 13, and then two dropped before we even wrote anything lmao. And I agree, commitment is more important. I've just never seen it work (steadily) with more than one person. Sadness.

Yeah, I was just counting the ones we actually wrote with, even if it just for an episode. 

Commitment is key!!  I'm usually in it for the long haul, so it's nice to have found someone who can handle sticking with a story for more than a few months without flaking out.

I love the remaining 00Carter crew, but it is like pulling teeth sometimes to get parts written on that story.
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 08:03:09 PM »

Yeah, I was just counting the ones we actually wrote with, even if it just for an episode. 

Commitment is key!!  I'm usually in it for the long haul, so it's nice to have found someone who can handle sticking with a story for more than a few months without flaking out.

I love the remaining 00Carter crew, but it is like pulling teeth sometimes to get parts written on that story.

Ditto lol. I love everyone involved, though sometimes they drive me crazy (okay, crazier) when all the delays pop up lol. Talented writers? Definitely. Awesome people? Of course. Flaky? YES lmao. But I say that with love.

Collaborating can be epic and frustrating.
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 08:07:35 PM »

Ditto lol. I love everyone involved, though sometimes they drive me crazy (okay, crazier) when all the delays pop up lol. Talented writers? Definitely. Awesome people? Of course. Flaky? YES lmao. But I say that with love.

Collaborating can be epic and frustrating.

Did I just get called Flaky? LOL. 
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 08:10:30 PM »

Listen you two, I have been a member of the 00Carter crew for a year (maybe more) and have yet to write anything and it's not because I'm flaky :P
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 08:11:19 PM »


How many people is too many when working in a collaboration?
If everyone's on the same page and equally committed to the project... the more, the merrier!  Realistically, though... three's a crowd, and with more than three, it's tough to keep everyone on the same page.  Two is the ideal.  The only collaborated stories I've finished have been with just one co-writer.  The biggest collaboration failures have been with two co-writers (so three people writing together).  The BIG collabs, with lots of co-writers, tend to work out for awhile, at first, when everyone's excited, and then fizzle out.

Actually we did finish Phantasm and we had a lot of people involved in that. I was in charge of that one so we were going to finish if I had to choke people to death to get their chapters from them lmao
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 08:16:16 PM »

Did I just get called Flaky? LOL. 
Listen you two, I have been a member of the 00Carter crew for a year (maybe more) and have yet to write anything and it's not because I'm flaky :P

LOL You guys know who the flaky ones are/were.  If you write your parts (not that you've had the opportunity yet, Sarah) without needing to nagged, you're not who we're talking about.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 08:17:48 PM »

Actually we did finish Phantasm and we had a lot of people involved in that. I was in charge of that one so we were going to finish if I had to choke people to death to get their chapters from them lmao

True, I forgot about Phantasm, I guess because it was a round robin.  Still a collaboration, but round robins are a little different because it's not the same group of people planning and writing the whole thing together.  I'm glad we did finish that one, though, and it turned out good!  Lots of twists and turns.
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Re: now let's talk about collaborations
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2011, 08:19:16 PM »

Listen you two, I have been a member of the 00Carter crew for a year (maybe more) and have yet to write anything and it's not because I'm flaky :P

I didn't mean you! LOL

Did I just get called Flaky? LOL. 

Or you! :P
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2011, 08:21:25 PM »

I know I had my issues just recently but I hope I made up for it! :-D 
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