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nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 07, 2021, 09:48:58 PM ---We also don't know for sure that he's not a demon. Maybe his wings are invisible or retract into his back. You're right, though; Nick has much better reactions than, say, mild-mannered Howie. Howie fighting a bear would not be nearly as fun to write or read about. Sorry, Howie. That's why I prefer you as Dr. Rough.
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If he's really powerful, he can suppress his demonic aspects. Or so says PBox. ;) Get a few cocktails in Howie and he'll talk nicely to the bear and try to befriend it, haha.
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 07, 2021, 09:48:58 PM ---Great minds do think alike! Glad we've established our canon. It turned out to be a fun, chatty weekend!
I do think subverting these "canon" characterizati ons is how you keep things interesting while writing story after story about the same characters in different situations and avoid using the same cliched stereotypes. Like, Kevin is the big brother of the group, but that doesn't mean he should always be bossing the other guys around, especially in a present day story. Brian is religious, but that doesn't mean he prays all the time. Howie does more than wink. (I forgot to include the winking on my list. I love how winking is the one characteristic we kept intact in 00Carter LOL.)
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I take everyone's silence to mean that they agree.
You know, we need to give villain Howie some redeemable traits from regular Howie, so why shouldn't he wink? ;)
I think there's also ways to lean into the characterizati ons without making them one-note characters, which is where we should be writing them. But I've also been away long enough, that I'm enjoying playing them straight again, but still as reasonable people with many character traits. I had PBox Howie wink once and it was a joyous day to include it that one time (for me writing it, for anyone reading you'll have to wait a little bit to see it still).
RokofAges75:
--- Quote from: nicksgal on March 07, 2021, 10:07:35 PM ---I think there's also ways to lean into the characterizati ons without making them one-note characters, which is where we should be writing them. But I've also been away long enough, that I'm enjoying playing them straight again, but still as reasonable people with many character traits. I had PBox Howie wink once and it was a joyous day to include it that one time (for me writing it, for anyone reading you'll have to wait a little bit to see it still).
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Yes, I agree with that too. I played them pretty straight in Bethlehem too - Kevin as the controlling big brother, Nick as the obnoxious little brother, Brian praying, etc. (I had to look up if I had Howie wink in that one. He only did once in mine, too.) It is fun to write them way, especially in a group story that focuses on their brotherly relationship. At the end of the day, those characterizati ons that we deemed essential exist because that's how we see them and why we love them, so those are the characters we want to read about. But like you said, they should still seem like real people, not one-dimensional cartoon characters.
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: RokofAges75 on March 07, 2021, 10:20:42 PM ---At the end of the day, those characterizati ons that we deemed essential exist because that's how we see them and why we love them, so those are the characters we want to read about.
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Goes back to that connection and feelings! Those characteristic s are, I'm guessing, the ones we feel the greatest connection to/feelings about in their context as Backstreet Boys. It's a lot about who they are, but also a lot about how they relate to each other. That's why I enjoy writing group fanfics the most even if I lean Nick. :)
Rose:
--- Quote ---This is a good question for anyone else to answer about whichever boy(s) you've written multiple stories about. Is your characterizati on pretty much the same across different stories, or do you make them different from each other?
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I love this question. For me it depends on the story and how old he is. Like in RMTW I shatter Nick but this was a younger more self destructive Nick, so he reacts pretty badly at first.Making bad choices. I shatter Nick in a completely different way in When The Daylight's Gone, but this was a more mature Nick so while still broken he didn't slip back into old habits. In Show Me A Reason he's very angry because he's in such a bad place. In all of them though certain things still shine through, like trying to cope with a bad past, singing randomly (which I love that he actually does in real life and I got that right lol), and a reliance on the Backstreet Family as they're the ones who've been there. My Nick also tends to have a random brain which fits cause real life Nick is like that but truth be told a lot of his random thoughts are shit that just happens in my brain that I pass on to him.
Which, what Boy would you say you put the most of yourself into when you write? Like when you write his character, which comes the closest to how you'd write yourself?
nicksgal:
--- Quote from: Rose on March 08, 2021, 02:58:38 PM ---singing randomly (which I love that he actually does in real life and I got that right lol)
Which, what Boy would you say you put the most of yourself into when you write? Like when you write his character, which comes the closest to how you'd write yourself?
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I always enjoyed you making him sing randomly and that it was true. :)
Hmmm... None of them? They get some tiny things that I think fit with their personalities. PBox Nick gets a lot of my loyalty over sense, for instance. But I try not to put too much of me into any one of them so it doesn't take away from them. But lately, I've read other Howies and thought "Is Howie me?" So maybe it's Howie, haha.
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