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Opendoors - OTW - Preservation of archive?
Chaos:
The ball is very slowly starting to roll on this, and there are some decisions to make. I'm going to post the first decision here because I don't think it's actually mine to make. I really won't have the time to commit to be the "owner" of the collection if we choose to go that route. So, I'd give first option to Mare if she wants to step in as an owner, but would also open up the idea to any others of you guys who are still here who might be interested in moderating or owning the collection. If there isn't a desire to reopen the collection for new works and/or no one wants to take on the moderating, we can give ownership of the collection to OpenDoors and they deal with all of the creator requests, etc.
Moderating the Collection
Do you want to continue to own (i.e. be in charge of) the AO3 collection after the import? (This would ensure that you would have the authority to delete, transfer, or anonymize works upon creator request. It would also mean that the archivist email we will set up, to which most users send their queries about claiming or deleting their works, would forward to your email address after the import.)
If so, would you like the AO3 collection to be open or closed to new works? (Please note that the collection needs to be closed if Open Doors is the collection owner.)
If open, do you want the collection to be moderated (i.e. new submissions must be approved)? If so, would you be the moderator, or would you find someone else?
If you want to own and/or moderate the AO3 collection, what is the name of the AO3 account from which you would like to do so?
If you don’t already have or intend to create your own AO3 account, you’ll be able to own and/or moderate the collection from the archivist account that we will create for you.
If you want to own the AO3 collection, are you comfortable with Open Doors making changes to the collection (e.g., transferring or deleting works) if creators contact us directly with requests, or would you like Open Doors to forward all creator requests we receive to you?
If Open Doors owns the collection, we will take care of all creator requests by default; the above question only applies if you want to be the collection owner.
mare:
Wow, I'm not sure I'm up for that job. To be honest, I hardly understood most of that. I'm not tech savy enough to own anything internet related. I do think it's a great idea though and I'd be willing to help whoever decides to do this when and if I can. So, this would mean that the entire AC archive would all transfer over to AO3 as one account? As if it's just an author posting a thousand stories? I still don't fully even understand how AO3 works, and I've been on there for a hot minute.
I enjoy moderating this message board. This is more my speed. lol
Chaos:
I'm not familiar enough to say how it works exactly, but my understanding is that the stories might get imported into their archive under an archive account, but the authors are all contacted (if possible since the addresses are old) and can choose to have the stories moved to their own accounts, or can ask the stories to be removed or set to anonymous.
I'd be inclined to let the Open Doors people take "ownership", but that will mean that no new works can be added to the collection--which since they haven't been added to in a few years, probably won't make a big difference. I just didn't want to declare that for all if there is someone interested in reviving it.
RokofAges75:
Thanks for the update, Ash! I would be willing to help with this if we decide we want to retain control over the collection. From my understanding of what you posted, this would only really matter if we want to leave it open to new submissions. Either way, authors would still be able to claim their old stories or request that they be deleted or made anonymous. So I guess I'm wondering if anyone is really interested in keeping the collection open. While I love the idea of being able to access and interact with AC stories on AO3, I personally don't see the point of posting new stories in an AC collection on AO3. But that's just my opinion.
If others do want to leave it open or want one of us to retain control, I'll throw my name in the ring as a potential owner and/or moderator. I have the same username on AO3, RokofAges75. I created a couple of small collections on AO3 for people who contributed to 1000 Ways to Kill Nick Carter and its spinoff to post their stories in, so I'm at least familiar with how they work. For Mare and anyone else wondering, this is what a collection looks like: https://archiveofourown.org/collections/1000WaystoKillNickCarter/works It's literally just a list of stories like you would see for any fandom or tag, and when you click on one, you'll see the name of the collection included below the tags and all that to link it back to the other works in that collection. Obviously, the AC collection would be a lot bigger.
If no one cares about leaving it open to submissions, I'm okay with letting Open Doors take ownership and handle creator requests.
Edit: After thinking more about this, I do want one of us to retain control over the collection and keep it open, at least temporarily. See my posts below for the reasons why.
RokofAges75:
Just out of curiosity... I'm assuming all that would transfer from AC to AO3 is the stories themselves, not the reviews/comments people left on AC. Do you know if that's correct? I wish the reviews would be transferred too, but I realize that's not really the point of archiving works.
I'm just thinking ahead of what to do with the duplicates of the old stories I've already posted on AO3 myself. It seems pointless to have multiple versions of the same story on AO3, unless the old reviews were also posted as comments. If not, I'd be more inclined to delete the AC versions of my stories and keep the ones that have already accrued stats in my account on AO3. The only problem I foresee with that is that, if we give up control of the collection and make it closed, then my works wouldn't be included in the AC collection, which would be kinda sad if/when the real AC site goes down for good. It would be nice to be able to add the stories I've already reposted on AO3 to the AC collection so they are still included along with everyone else's. That makes me more inclined to think one of us should retain ownership and leave it open for at least a little while, for anyone else who wants to do the same. There may not be many of us left who still post on the forum, but there are several others, like Tracy, Cinzia, and Rose, who also moved to AO3 years ago and may be faced with the same dilemma. What are everyone else's thoughts on this?
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