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[RokofAges75]

It's not about the readers though. its about the recognition being fair. You have to be 17 to get into a rated R movie don't you? So why put a rated R story as featured? It's merely because of the stigma. So pretty much it's come down to this either be fair and include everyone in THE SAME RECOGNITION or don't have recognition at all because if you're not going to be fair about it it taints EVERYONE who is recognized in saying "oh well you're good enough" and this other story that's just as good isn't because it contains more adult themes.

I totally get your argument, and I agree to an extent, but at the same time, look at it this way:  When choosing a movie of the week to put on TV, TV channels can't just show any movie they want.  R-rated movies can only be shown if they are edited.  Unedited and higher-rated programs have to be shown on special channels that not everyone has or only get shown late at night, when a lot of audiences aren't watching.  Is that fair?  Maybe not, to the people who want to watch R-rated movies unedited on TV any time they want, but I'm sure the parents of young children appreciate it.  And the audience of those R movies can always get the DVD and watch them that way.

What is fair is not always equal, and what is equal is not always fair.  Sometimes there have to be guidelines.  If the guidelines of AC don't work for you, there are other sites that specialize in more adult-themed stories.

[mare]

Just curious, but who is next months featured story? The NC-17 one? I'd really like to know if I've read it or not, so if I haven't so that I can. :]

That's a surprise. lol I dont give that away until it happens and now i'm not even sure I can discuss it but my guess is, judging from your posts that you have read it.

lmao now i'm turning into a typo queen.

[Jamanda]

Tat's a surprise. lol I dont give that away until it happens and now i'm not even sure I can discuss it by my guess is, judging from your posts that you have read it.

IS IT TRI OR TERI?! OH MY GOSH!

[RokofAges75]

I think that would be helpful.  Honestly, I'm so on the fence with whether mine are truly NC-17 or if they're R.

I know what you mean.  My stories don't generally contain a lot of sex, but BMS does have a couple of sex scenes that are described in some detail.  I wouldn't say they're totally explicit, but they're not glossed over either.  But two scenes out of 190+ chapters, to me, does not mean it's an NC-17 story.  I rated it R because it has adult language and definitely adult themes, but I don't see it as an NC-17 story at all.  But it could be that my interpretation of NC-17 is a lot different from other people.

[Teri]

I mean I'm not even sure about what rating my stories are anymore. If tri's are R worthy then so are mine since her and I share about the same amount of sexual content. If I made a mistake in saying it's NC-17 then of course I'm not above admitting my mistakes and fixing it and then we probably wouldn't be having this big of an issue. But what do we do? There's no clear cut rating system, So should NC-17 be restricted to no plot and all the stories with adult themes and sexual content and a plot be bumped down to R?

[Tri]

I'm not sure if you guys are even aware of how little I have time to read lol. I say over and over again that even with these featured stories, I pick them based on what everyone says. Out of the stories that have been featured i've read two of them from start to finish. Am I proud of this? NO but at the same time I trust everyone who rants and raves about the stories to jump in and cover the discussions and so far they have.

So to answer your question Tri, I haven't read it. To me, it sounds like you can make it R but for sex scenes you may want to just do a pre warning of some kind in an authors note saying this chapter contains sex scenes of a graphic nature. lol did I say that the first time too?

Yeah.  I guess I'm just going to change the rating to R.  It still carries the "graphic sexual content" warning on it.  If anyone has a problem with the rating in the future, then I'll change it.  But, judging from people's impressions of what R is and NC-17 is, I guess it fits into R. 

Please, though, if ANYONE has a problem with this in the future, let me know and I'll change it back to NC-17.  Again, I don't really know the definitions of each rating.  So if it's ever clarified in the future, I'll make sure it fits into the correct rating then.  As far as right now, it seems as if R is the right place for me.

Mare, thanks for your input.

[RokofAges75]

Here's a fanfic site which has some rating guidelines based on the Motion Picture Society of America's guidelines for movies.

http://www.qui-gonline.org/fanfic/ratings.htm

[mare]

You know that's what I would do. I would just go to R and if someone finds it overly offensive and complains then i'd go to NC-17. I know there's probably a lot of stories that are mis rated, including mine.

[Tri]

You know that's what I would do. I would just go to R and if someone finds it overly offensive and complains then i'd go to NC-17. I know there's probably a lot of stories that are mis rated, including mine.

Thanks, Mare!  That's what I'll do. 

[mare]

You're welcome

[RokofAges75]

^ I agree.  It sounds like it needs to be really extreme to be rated NC-17.  Think of the R-rated movies you've seen.  Some of them get pretty racy, but they're still only rated R.  I'm not sure I've ever even seen an NC-17 movie, minus a porno my friends and I rented once as a joke LOL.  I've seen the unrated versions of R movies, so I guess maybe that counts, but usually they're not THAT much different than the originals.

[Tri]

^ I agree.  It sounds like it needs to be really extreme to be rated NC-17.  Think of the R-rated movies you've seen.  Some of them get pretty racy, but they're still only rated R.  I'm not sure I've ever even seen an NC-17 movie, minus a porno my friends and I rented once as a joke LOL.  I've seen the unrated versions of R movies, so I guess maybe that counts, but usually they're not THAT much different than the originals.

LOL That's a good way to judge!  A lot of the situations in my stories are similar to situations that would be in Sex & the City or R-rated movies.

I'm glad we had this discussion just so there is a better definition of what is considered R or NC-17.  I feel a lot better now. 

[RokofAges75]

LOL That's a good way to judge!  A lot of the situations in my stories are similar to situations that would be in Sex & the City or R-rated movies.

I'm glad we had this discussion just so there is a better definition of what is considered R or NC-17.  I feel a lot better now. 

I agree, cause it really is hard to determine.  I think I originally had BMS rated PG-13, and then I upped it to R once I started getting some sex in there LOL.  Broken is still only PG-13, but maybe it should be R because of the language?  Cause I know there's more than one cuss word in it.  It's just hard to tell.  But like Mare said, until someone complains, or until there are strict guidelines for ratings on the site, just go with your gut.  It sounds like you probably only have an R-rated story.

[Teri]

Ok since I discussed with mare i changed mine to R just because i guess it fits better. i'm always confused with ratings and i think maybe that's a good idea we ALL should address and work on, and awesome link Julie! I hope truly that no one thinks we (tri and i) came on here to attack people. we didn't we've been discussing this and decided that we should bring it to everyone. and i would like to thank each and everyone of you guys for your honest opinions, they are respected even if we disagree with them. And if we come off as angry or emotional about it, it's just because we're extremely passionate about the subject.

[Tri]

Ok since I discussed with mare i changed mine to R just because i guess it fits better. i'm always confused with ratings and i think maybe that's a good idea we ALL should address and work on, and awesome link Julie! I hope truly that no one thinks we (tri and i) came on here to attack people. we didn't we've been discussing this and decided that we should bring it to everyone. and i would like to thank each and everyone of you guys for your honest opinions, they are respected even if we disagree with them. And if we come off as angry or emotional about it, it's just because we're extremely passionate about the subject.

I second that!  I wasn't trying to personally attack ANYONE.  I'm really glad I brought the topic up because now I feel like it's resolved.  Thank you, everyone.    I really appreciate the feedback.