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Author Topic: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!  (Read 48710 times)

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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #90 on: October 07, 2007, 07:08:40 PM »
Nope, don't worry about it.  It didn't come across as attacking to me.  I feel like I'm outside the situation... I don't write NC-17 stories, but I have no problem with reading them if they're good... so I can see both sides of it.  And I think Dee had a good point too, when she brought in the earlier threads about fantasy writers.  A lot of stories that are outside the mainstream get overlooked because of what people assume them to be... and at the same time, some stories get overlooked because they ARE considered mainstream, and people have certain ideas about what that means.  As you guys said, we as readers should never assume and should just be open to giving any kind of story a chance. :)
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #91 on: October 07, 2007, 07:13:07 PM »
I'm all late as usual because I was at work while this interesting conversation was going on. I'd like to say that I personally have no problems with NC-17 stories for the most part. I think that both stories in question do have a plot. Can there be some sex scenes that could be omited? Definitely, but that's not my call. Despite it all I have nothing against both stories. The amount of sexual content you put in a story is up to the author. There are stories that I feel DO have too much sex, yet I still enjoy them. (Yes, it is possible) I think its a fine line you have to straddle in order to keep it tasteful. For me its not the amount of sex or the explicitness of the sex but if we're going all whips and chains and handcuffs just make sure there's a reason behind all that. Not let's see how shocking we can be. Cuz personally I think fan fics tend to definitely portray sex in a way that is not entirely realistic.

I to am a HUGE Sex in the City fan and sometimes it definitely influences my writing, but in more of a humorous way than a sexual way. I think the show is brilliant how it uses sexual situations as metaphors for all sort of things. So, if you're doing something like that then I have no problem. As long as its tastefully done and doesn't sound like something out of a bad porno.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #92 on: October 07, 2007, 07:18:04 PM »
Allrighty.

Since my "accident" in February, I really haven't spent a whole lot of time on this site. Mare and Julilly have been pretty much in charge and keeping things running smoothly. The Featured Story of the Month has really been Mare's puppy, so I've discussed it with her and I am going to back off and we'll do a trial NC-17 featured story of the month. If all goes well and I don't get a lot of parental flack, etc, it'll stay that way. I will say that I do reserve the right to change back, but for now, we'll go with it.

I will say, however, that many of the NC-17 stories that you guys are talking about, if I'd rated them, I probably would have gone with "R". (Although now looking through the thread since I started the reply I see that ya'll have just discussed that. I'm a little late getting back to the party...what else is new *sigh*.)

Anyhoo, thanks for bringing the problem to my attention; I really never intended to slight any of you...

--Ash
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #93 on: October 07, 2007, 07:18:25 PM »
Thank you mel! Pretty much I look to SATC for alot of my inspiration lol it's how you weave plot and sex that makes the difference. And yeah there are some sex scenes in my stories that can be a bit over the top, but as Always Something progresses it will all be explained because it's really a cover for an insecurity in both my leads.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #94 on: October 07, 2007, 07:23:22 PM »
Quote from: Chaos on October 07, 2007, 07:18:04 PM
Allrighty.

Since my "accident" in February, I really haven't spent a whole lot of time on this site. Mare and Julilly have been pretty much in charge and keeping things running smoothly. The Featured Story of the Month has really been Mare's puppy, so I've discussed it with her and I am going to back off and we'll do a trial NC-17 featured story of the month. If all goes well and I don't get a lot of parental flack, etc, it'll stay that way. I will say that I do reserve the right to change back, but for now, we'll go with it.

I will say, however, that many of the NC-17 stories that you guys are talking about, if I'd rated them, I probably would have gone with "R". (Although now looking through the thread since I started the reply I see that ya'll have just discussed that. I'm a little late getting back to the party...what else is new *sigh*.)

Anyhoo, thanks for bringing the problem to my attention; I really never intended to slight any of you...

--Ash

Thank you also for being honest too! It's a huge thing for me when someone gives their honest opinion and I would like to thank you for that.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #95 on: October 07, 2007, 07:24:03 PM »
Aww I didn't feel attacked at all. In fact this was a great debate! We needed another one on this forum and I think even though it was heated at times it was civil and well thought out.

I think rating a story is such a hard thing. I bet more than half the people on our site have mis-rated at least one of their stories.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #96 on: October 07, 2007, 07:26:03 PM »
I know, I couldn't believe how fast this thread grew!  I love debates like that! :)
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #97 on: October 07, 2007, 07:28:31 PM »
I'm glad because my weekend has been drama filled to say the least, lol at least i'm going on vacation for my birthday!
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #98 on: October 07, 2007, 07:30:45 PM »
Is it wrong if I admit that I felt a little attacked? :-\

But I do love discussions like this; they're fun. :)
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #99 on: October 07, 2007, 07:31:06 PM »
Quote from: RokofAges75 on October 07, 2007, 07:26:03 PM
I know, I couldn't believe how fast this thread grew!  I love debates like that! :)

I know! I got all excited lol i'm such a dork.

And yay to going away for your birthday! That's awesome Teri. :)
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #100 on: October 07, 2007, 07:32:24 PM »
Quote from: nicksgal on October 07, 2007, 07:30:45 PM
Is it wrong if I admit that I felt a little attacked? :-\

But I do love discussions like this; they're fun. :)

Nope, not wrong at all. In fact probably good to know for the people who you were talking to.
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #101 on: October 07, 2007, 07:33:10 PM »
Quote from: mare on October 07, 2007, 07:31:06 PM
I know! I got all excited lol i'm such a dork.

Well, after the board being so dead, it's refreshing, isn't it? :)
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #102 on: October 07, 2007, 07:35:07 PM »
Quote from: nicksgal on October 07, 2007, 07:33:10 PM
Well, after the board being so dead, it's refreshing, isn't it? :)

LOL yes!
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #103 on: October 07, 2007, 07:37:30 PM »
Quote from: Chaos on October 07, 2007, 07:18:04 PM
Allrighty.

Since my "accident" in February, I really haven't spent a whole lot of time on this site. Mare and Julilly have been pretty much in charge and keeping things running smoothly. The Featured Story of the Month has really been Mare's puppy, so I've discussed it with her and I am going to back off and we'll do a trial NC-17 featured story of the month. If all goes well and I don't get a lot of parental flack, etc, it'll stay that way. I will say that I do reserve the right to change back, but for now, we'll go with it.

I will say, however, that many of the NC-17 stories that you guys are talking about, if I'd rated them, I probably would have gone with "R". (Although now looking through the thread since I started the reply I see that ya'll have just discussed that. I'm a little late getting back to the party...what else is new *sigh*.)

Anyhoo, thanks for bringing the problem to my attention; I really never intended to slight any of you...

--Ash

Thank you for your input!  I changed my rating and I feel so much better after having this discussion.  :)
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Re: NC-17 Stories Have Plots!
« Reply #104 on: October 07, 2007, 07:38:02 PM »
Quote from: mare on October 07, 2007, 07:35:07 PM
LOL yes!

Maybe we should just plan on starting a new major discussion once a week. :D
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