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Fic Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: julilly on July 16, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
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What's your editing process? Do you write everything in your head then go back and edit or edit as you write?
I rarely edit after the fact, so I suppose I edit in my head as I'm writing. Maybe that's why it takes me so long to write a chapter. :P
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I edit everything after the fact. I find if I edit it as I write, I lose my inspiration and my flow. It slows me down.
Cute avy btw :)
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I write a few paragraphs & then stop, reread & edit. I will read the entire thing three times before posting it. I usually leave it alone then go back and read it one final time before posting. Even then, I'll still catch stupid typos!!
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I edit as I write. I love having the spellcheck on my phone because that helps me a lot. I also go over it a few times before posting to make sure I haven't missed anything.
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I edit as I write, and then I'll read it through before posting. Or if I'm in one of those writing moods where the words are just flowing, I'll read it after I've finished the chapter. Before posting I click on preview just to make sure it looks OK and the layout hasn't messed up.
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My editing process is just as messed up as my writing process LOL.
Because I tend to write out of order (I have story folders that'll have a few of the first chapter of a story, get bored, jump to the climactic chapter, write that and lose my inspiration to write the rest of the build up) Those chapters I write in order tend to get edited as I go. The ones out of order? I don't edit them as I go, I write the first draft of them fast to get the scene out of my head and onto the screen so I don't forget about it. If it's a story I actually wind up posting, I tend to edit those chapters a little bit every day until it's time to post. I'll play with wording, add stuff, remove stuff.. whatever. Those chapters get so changed around they're nothing like they were the first time I wrote them, and you can probably tell which ones those are because I believe they come out a lot better than the ones I just write and post and edit as I go.
I can't believe I ever manage to finish anything.
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I write a few paragraphs & then stop, reread & edit. I will read the entire thing three times before posting it. I usually leave it alone then go back and read it one final time before posting. Even then, I'll still catch stupid typos!!
I know, no matter how many times I edit...there's always that one thing I don't notice till I post. Then I see it as I reread over it LOL.
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I edit as I write. Then when I finish a chapter, I wait at least a day or overnight to reread it, which is when I proofread for typos or make minor changes in word choice. I usually don't make big revisions after the first draft is done because, like Julilly and Mare, I spend so much time editing as I go that I'm usually pretty happy with the end result.
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to answer the idea question in the other thread.
I get my ideas from a lot of places, movies, books, cartoons, people I see on the street, discussions in forums and I jot down the ideas in word, maybe a first chapter, save them, file them and when I'm looking for a story I open the folder and reread.
As for editing, I tend to edit as I write and skim over it when I'm done. If it's a story that I am holding chapters back (rarely do) then I may reread it a couple of times otherwise I post it after I finish.
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My editing process is just as messed up as my writing process LOL.
Because I tend to write out of order (I have story folders that'll have a few of the first chapter of a story, get bored, jump to the climactic chapter, write that and lose my inspiration to write the rest of the build up) Those chapters I write in order tend to get edited as I go. The ones out of order? I don't edit them as I go, I write the first draft of them fast to get the scene out of my head and onto the screen so I don't forget about it. If it's a story I actually wind up posting, I tend to edit those chapters a little bit every day until it's time to post. I'll play with wording, add stuff, remove stuff.. whatever. Those chapters get so changed around they're nothing like they were the first time I wrote them, and you can probably tell which ones those are because I believe they come out a lot better than the ones I just write and post and edit as I go.
I can't believe I ever manage to finish anything.
That's how I do mine ;)
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Do any of you have a story that you are reminded of by something from it? Like quirks the characters have or specific scenes? For example I always think of Whatever The Night when I see spam lol and I think of Julie when I see blueberry muffins ;)
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LOL Yay! :)
I just tweeted that every time AJ posts an Instagram pic of himself, I laugh and think of Mare's new story. Every time I see something on the news about Alzheimer's, I think of Rose and RMTW. The song "Running Up That Hill" makes me think of Steph and her story of the same name. Llamas make me think of Hannah. Taco Bell makes me think of you, Tracy LOL. The book "Draw Me a Star" by Eric Carle makes me think of the story "Cover Me With Dreams."
Songs are a big thing for me. There are SO many songs that I associate with a certain fanfic because of how the song was used in the story, like DWLYN in Where Can We Go From Here and Edwin McCain's "I'll Be" in CMWD.
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Well, zombies remind me of you and Rose. Whenever I see something about someone missing limbs I think of you Julie lol. Peaches remind me of Lore lmao. Llamas and twinkies for Hannah....Sail or Moon and One Direction remind me of Saka-steph. For Mare, Spam...and AJ's random pics.
I have songs that remind me of stories too because either I was inspired by it or I used the song title (for example You Give Love A Bad Name by Bon Jovi)
I've had a lot of good memories from stories I've read and it makes me smile whenever I think of it.
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Well, zombies remind me of you and Rose. Whenever I see something about someone missing limbs I think of you Julie lol.
I'm honored! LOL
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:D yay! About the twinkies....wh enever I read Borrowed Time and Nick is talking about food it makes me hungry!
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Aww thanks guys lol spam and random AJ pics, I'll take it!
When I hear anything zombies I think if Rose & Julie. Julie comes to mind when I think of anyone leg less as well. I always associate Step with chocolate lmao I always find myself saying wow I bet Steph would like that! Sailor Moon makes me think Saka & Tracy. I have no idea why but whenever I see Law & Order I think of Julilly lol random. And anytime Nick is sick I think of Swenglish lol
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LOL anytime I see body parts being sliced off I think of Julie. But I also think of her when I see anything about double rainbows :P. Sailor Moon makes me think of Saka and Tracy. Chocolate shakes make me think of Mare and Nick dropping it and running like hell LMAO. Survivor now officially makes me think of Steph lol.
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That's how I do mine ;)
Does it cause you as much trouble as it causes me? lol I wish I didn't do it like that and I always tell myself I won't skip ahead... and then I always do.
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I edit as I go and right before I post. Ugh I end up reading it about three times and I know the chapter by memory by the time I update. Of course something always gets past me.
Rainbows and zombies always remind me of Julie and Rose. I even tweet Julie sometimes about somethig I heard or saw. Penguins remind me of Mare.
I had a question but I forgot it. :shrug:
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Groundhogs remind me of Mare! I knew I was forgetting some in my other post LOL.
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Groundhogs are definitely a Mare-ism LOL.
Platypodes remind me of Julie lmao.
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Ass venom ftw! Ferrets, penguins, and pandas (especially if they're sad) remind me of you!
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Your avy has me dying laughing LMAO.
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After reading everyone's answers to Tracy's question, I decided I should represent! LOL
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Woot! peaches... I got one! Thanks Tracy... lol :)
I think of Julie and Rose with Zombies of course!! But, I am also reminded of them when I hear or see anything James Bond.
pink, pigtail hairbuns, sailor moon, 1D and teletubbies have me thinking about Saka
My son watches a show called Dinosaur Train and there is a song/chant on there where they sing, "We figured it out, we figured it out, we worked together and figured it out..." when I hear it I think of Tracy... that and Taco Bell.
Tiaras and NASCAR make me think of Karah
Reading or watching anything with a dystopian society makes me think of Steph and jungles, jungles make me think of Steph.
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^ The color purple and purple lipstick in particular reminds me of you, Lore!
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^ as well it should Julie! :) LOL
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pink, pigtail hairbuns, sailor moon, 1D and teletubbies have me thinking about Saka
If there was a pink teletubbie I'd so make it my avvy lol
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If there was a pink teletubbie I'd so make it my avvy lol
that would be awesome....
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LOL :) feeling the love for sure. Everyone tells me (not just you girls) that taco bell reminds me of them. Its been part of my life for so long, I would feel incomplete not working there. When I worked at the bakery Taco Bell was my nickname ;)
Groundhogs and sandwiches also remind me of Mare cause Nick's always eating a sandwich or hiding in a bathroom in her stories. Alzheimer's reminds me of Rose as well because my grandmother had it, that story was special to me, it gave me closure with her death. So I am glad she wrote it :)
I also think of Erika when I see twinkies from her story I read hehe :P
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Anything to do with zombies makes me think of Julie, Rose and Song For The Undead. Fast food and the song Valerie remind me of Tracy, lol. Psychological thrillers and Chinese food make me think of Mare for some reason, lol. Purple, sci-fi and costume dramas remind me of Lore. Bulldogs, hitmen and strippers make me think of Erika, lol, sorry Erika :)
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That's so funny Steph because Chinese food makes me think of you too! lol I love Chinese. It's the only thing I go out for, that's probably why you associate me with Chinese.
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Today's question:
What is your definition of a good story & are there fanfics you've actually read more than once because you loved them that much?
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Today's question:
What is your definition of a good story & are there fanfics you've actually read more than once because you loved them that much?
Well the mechanics have to be there for one, if I'm mentally editing the entire time or my eyes or twitching I click out LOL. It needs a good plot, one that can capture and carry you. The characters need to be engaging, with their good qualities and flaws that either make you love them or hate them. And there should be something original somewhere, I mean there's only so many ideas but usually there should be even a small spin on it. No same fanfic different names lol. '
Fanfics I've re-read... Yesterday's Blue Skies immediately comes to mind. DARLA is another, actually.
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Aww yay to my M&Ms lol
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A good story is one that is well-written, but also entertaining. I can put up with a few errors, and a lot of the stories I consider personal favorites of mine are far from perfect in the conventions department, but if there are so many mistakes that they take away from the plot, I'm done. The plot and storytelling aspect is really what makes a story good, though. It needs to have an interesting storyline that is told in an entertaining way. Characters and pacing are key.
I'll add a story to my favorites list on AC if it's something I'm enjoying and want to keep following or remember for later. I'll add it to my favorites list on my site if it left a lasting impact on me beyond the point when it was finished. But the very best stories are the ones on that list that I have read more than once. I am definitely a rereader, and those stories I consider my very favorites, I've reread multiple times because I love them so much. If it holds up on the reread - especially years later - it's a damn good story!
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Okay lets try this question:
When writing a chapter, do you pay attention to your word count or how many pages you have? Do you have a limit per chapter? Like after 6 pages you stop?
Is that a better question? lol
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LOL I literally just answered your other question! But yay for a two-fer!
I do pay attention to length when I write just because I like to keep my chapters at least within the same range... like, I wouldn't want a story to have Chapter 1 be 900 words, Chapter 2 be 10,000, and Chapter 3 be 4,000. I try to keep them a little more equal than that. The range varies from story to story, but 2,000-5,000 words or 4-10 pages on Word pretty well covers it.
That said, if I have to go longer to finish a scene or post a short chapter because I have nothing else I need to say, I will. I like my chapters to start and stop in a place that makes sense. They're usually about one thing, like a certain event or maybe just a certain theme or idea. Sometimes they're one long scene, sometimes several shorter scenes that hopefully flow together. In a story with just one main plot told in one point of view, it doesn't matter as much where one chapter ends and the next begins, but most of the stuff I've been writing lately has multiple points of view, so it takes more planning to decide what all I need to include in one chapter before switching perspectives in the next. That's usually what leads to some chapters being significantly longer than others.
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Today's question:
What is your definition of a good story & are there fanfics you've actually read more than once because you loved them that much?
I need a story with strong characters that learn something by the end of it. My favourite types of stories (fan fic, novels, movies) are where the two characters are from different worlds and end up learning about themselves through the other person's eyes. I cannot resist a story like that. So, all obvious aside (good grasp on spelling and grammar) I need strong characters and a plot that has the characters changing throughout. If they're the same at the end of the story as they were at the beginning, chances are it won't leave a lasting impact on me.
Like Julie, I'll add something to my favourites if I'm following it and want to keep up.
The stories I've read more than once are Casual, Why I'd Do It All Again and A Million Little Things.
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Okay lets try this question:
When writing a chapter, do you pay attention to your word count or how many pages you have? Do you have a limit per chapter? Like after 6 pages you stop?
Is that a better question? lol
I sort of pay attention to word count, but I generally just tend to go with what I need to include to make the chapter feel complete and move the story along. My chapters tend to come in around 1,500 - 2,500 words, and the ones that are the "climactic" chapters tend to be closer to 3,000. I'm not super wordy, but I like to think that works for me.
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Like everyone else is saying, the characters have to be strong for me to make it through any story -fan fic or not- and if they aren't strong, I simply lose interest. I gotta know a little quirk or some secret key ot their personalities to get me invested into a character before I'll hang on for the ride. If I open up the chapter and the writing is choppy or nothing but dialogue, I'll close out. I'm kind of obnoxious about the dialogue thing when it comes to a story. I like a balance. If I see every single paragraph opening with a quotation mark, I'm gonna assume there's not a balance of dialogue and detail. I have a few stories I revisit now and then. I use my "favorites" on AC as a bookmarker so I remember what stories I'm in the process of reading. I never clean it out, though, so I have stories I read years ago still in there, lol. I rarely re-read any story, fan fic or not, so I don't really have a list of ones that I have reread... I'd say the Coaster series would be one I'd read again in the future.
When I write a chapter, I pay attention to the page count on Wordpad. Whatever the first chapter ends up being is what I try to average the rest of them to look like. For Borrowed Time for example each chapter ranges between 2,500-3,500 words, or 10-13 pages double-spaced on Wordpad. I just like the chapters to have rhythm, and length can help with that. But I do also like the chapters to break at good points so as was already said I'll go long or short to accoodate that. There's also times when I have opening lines for a particular scene that I really want to have be the first line of a chapter, and I'll purposely lengthen a scene in a prior chapter to bump that opening line onto the next chapter. A lot of my random Nick banter gets placed this way. I have an entire folder in my fan fiction hard drive dedicated to just little notepad documents of stupid questions and tirades for Nick to bring up in these sorts of situations that will allow me to build an entire scene out of thin air to fill in some extra space. ;)
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I have another question too:
When/if you got published did you/would you remove the fan fiction version of the story from the website or leave it published in its original state?
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I have another question too:
When/if you got published did you/would you remove the fan fiction version of the story from the website or leave it published in its original state?
I think I probably would, just so that no one would ever find it. I have removed the fan fic version of the original novel I reworked off of AC, but that was more of a cleaning house move than anything else, since I was never going to continue with it and didn't want it sitting under my account incomplete forever. Not because I actually think my original novel will get published anytime soon... because it's not even done lol
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I would if it was essentially the same story... like an AU that I'd just changed the names on to de-Backstreetize it before publishing. If I was expecting people to pay money for it, I wouldn't want the free version still available LOL.
If it was one that I had completely rewritten and changed, I'd probably leave the old fanfic version up unless I was required to remove it by the publisher or something. With a story like Broken, I see the OF version looking SO different from the original that no one besides my fanfic readers would even make the connection.
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I have another question too:
When/if you got published did you/would you remove the fan fiction version of the story from the website or leave it published in its original state?
The ones that I've published on Amazon are ones that aren't based around them being Backstreet Boys or AU so BSB doesn't exist. In fact, in one, Backstreet Boys were mentioned ONCE, so that was very easy to edit. I don't think I'd try to publish one that's based solely on them being a Backstreet Boy or NKOTB member like in "Fearless" or "IWBB."
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Okay lets try this question:
When writing a chapter, do you pay attention to your word count or how many pages you have? Do you have a limit per chapter? Like after 6 pages you stop?
Is that a better question? lol
I single space my stories when I write b/c I'm so used to it being single spaced at work. When I was in college, I wrote in double space because that's how I was used to writing with term papers.
Mine are usually anywhere from 5 to 8 pages single spaced, either in Times New Roman 11 pt or Courier 12 pt.
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I single space my stories when I write b/c I'm so used to it being single spaced at work. When I was in college, I wrote in double space because that's how I was used to writing with term papers.
Mine are usually anywhere from 5 to 8 pages single spaced, either in Times New Roman 11 pt or Courier 12 pt.
Now I'm curious about the most random thing ever. What font do you guys write in? LOL. I like Arial 11pt.
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LOL That is a good question. These days I write most things in Georgia 11 or 12 pt, single spaced.
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I write mostly in Tahoma 11pt or Verdana 11pt ... typically 1.5 spacing. :)
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Calibri 11pt or Georgia 10pt.
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I used to write in Arial and again, the whole college thing led me to be more comfortable with TNR or Courier lol
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I sort of pay attention to word count, but I generally just tend to go with what I need to include to make the chapter feel complete and move the story along. My chapters tend to come in around 1,500 - 2,500 words, and the ones that are the "climactic" chapters tend to be closer to 3,000. I'm not super wordy, but I like to think that works for me.
This is what I do. Sometimes they'll come out way longer, depending on content.
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Calibri 11pt or Georgia 10pt.
Love the new icon! LOL
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I have another question too:
When/if you got published did you/would you remove the fan fiction version of the story from the website or leave it published in its original state?
I would, if you're getting published, it's essentially the same fic. You should pull it. Because you can't expect people to pay for the book if the other one is up for free. It just comes off kinda douchey LOL.
If it's different enough, I might if the publisher wasn't telling me I had to pull it cause of copyright, which, I think they probably would.
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Is it me, or has everyone gotten awesome new icons lately? I love yours to death Hannah LOL.
I usually use Calibri, 11 pt. Unless it's a collab, for Undead, it's Georgia, and for 00Carter it's Century Gothic.
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Photobucket is a jerk and won't let me upload a new icon!
Also love yours, Hannah :)
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Yeah, I like how everyone put up icons that represents people's answers to Tracy's question yesterday. *waits for Steph's pink Teletubby*
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Photobucket is a jerk and won't let me upload a new icon!
Also love yours, Hannah :)
You can upload it right onto AC if it doesn't glitch out on you.
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Yeah, I like how everyone put up icons that represents people's answers to Tracy's question yesterday. *waits for Steph's pink Teletubby*
Does that mean I should get one of NMN on a shock collar?
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Does that mean I should get one of NMN on a shock collar?
LOL Please! Did one of us ever photoshop that?
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LOL Please! Did one of us ever photoshop that?
You did! LMAO. I think I still have it somewhere, but not in avy form.
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You did! LMAO. I think I still have it somewhere, but not in avy form.
Yes I did! LOL Just found it. Want me to make you an avy version?
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Yes I did! LOL Just found it. Want me to make you an avy version?
Sure! I'm over all the pink in my current avy lol. I pretty much hate that color.
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You can upload it right onto AC if it doesn't glitch out on you.
I completely forgot about that! For once AC did not glitch out! Yay lol
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I completely forgot about that! For once AC did not glitch out! Yay lol
LMFAO okay I cracked up the moment I saw yours.
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I completely forgot about that! For once AC did not glitch out! Yay lol
Yay! Love it LOL.
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Llama's sexy and he knows it. Bwahaha. I had to animate it.
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LMAO thanks guys.
Epic icons all around!
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Llama's sexy and he knows it. Bwahaha. I had to animate it.
LMAO even more awesome!
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New icons ftw! LOL
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LMFAO Aww, I've missed NMN!
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So did I lol. Especially since I'm associated with that anyway, why not. :P
Thank you for the hilarious avy!
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LOL wish I could see everyone's new pics but they don't show up on AC mobile. I can't even change mine...
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You're welcome!
And that's a bummer, Tracy!
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Its all right :) eventually I will find a way to change it! Nick can stay for now lol
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Calibri 11pt or Georgia 10pt.
Calibri 11 for me too <3
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Today's question:
What is your definition of a good story & are there fanfics you've actually read more than once because you loved them that much?
A good story for me is something which holds my attention from early on and continues to do so. There are fanfics I've got saved as favourites, but I've not gone and read any back yet. But I will one day :)
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Time to answer some questions. I was waiting to get on the computer before I did this lol
I pretty much agree with what everyone has been saying concerning what makes a great story. There has to be a natural flow from one chapter to the next to make me want to read and of crouse the depth and believeability of the characters is really important.
I am not big on rereading things, books included. As much as I love some stories and books, i've only ever reread a handful of them from start to finish but the ones I do, it's because I find myself missing them. Most of the time, i'll pick a few of my favorite chapters or scenes to reread more so than the entire thing. LOL
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Okay lets try this question:
When writing a chapter, do you pay attention to your word count or how many pages you have? Do you have a limit per chapter? Like after 6 pages you stop?
Is that a better question? lol
I don't really pay attention to word count, but my chapters always tend to be between 1000 - 1500 words, it's not that often I go over that.
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As far as paying attention to word count etc... I am pretty anal about that.
I enjoy having most of my chapters stay pretty even in length. Usually I go by word count and depends, it used to be a lot more than it is now. I'm happy with it if it's at least 1,800 - 3,000 If it's more or less than that I feel like I need to either cut it down or lengthen. Quirky, I know lol
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I have another question too:
When/if you got published did you/would you remove the fan fiction version of the story from the website or leave it published in its original state?
I would remove the fanfic version unless it was so dramatically changed that it didn't resemble the fanfic version anymore. Not that I'd ever publish anything of mine though, lol!
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Now I'm curious about the most random thing ever. What font do you guys write in? LOL. I like Arial 11pt.
I use Calibri 11 or Arial 11
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I think it's a really smart idea to remove your fanfic from the sites, especially if you are using the same title. All people have to do is google the title, they'll see the fanfic version and the book version pop up. One is free, one is not, which one would you go for? Also there's a good chance any real life friends who do not know you write fanfic will find out by googling the title of the book. Also there could be copyright issues. Needless to say, I removed Mel's from all the fanfic sites when the book was published for those reasons lol
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I usually use Tahoma 10 pt, but not always. I don't tend to care actually lol
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Guess I should change my avy too? I think I might have a groundhog one somewhere. I don't have a spam one and I don't want to use an AJ Instagram pose! Does anyone have a pic with Nick and a shake? lmao
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I want to change mine as I think I've had the same one since I joined here. I should try and create a bot fly and chocolate one, LOL
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Guess I should change my avy too? I think I might have a groundhog one somewhere. I don't have a spam one and I don't want to use an AJ Instagram pose! Does anyone have a pic with Nick and a shake? lmao
I do actually have one with Nick and a shake on my computer at home lol
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LOL cool!
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Not commenting on Nick and shakes right now. I can't stop laughing.
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I'd change my Avvy but I'm not creative with creating them and well... it'd just end up being purple anyway. LOL
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I've been needing to change mine for awhile. Nick eating the flower was cool and all but it's been like that for almost 2 years. lol :o
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Lore, I'll make you one when I get around to making mine :)
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I want to change mine as I think I've had the same one since I joined here. I should try and create a bot fly and chocolate one, LOL
Bot flies crawling on a chocolate brain!
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you are such a sweetheart Steph. :bateyes:
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Bot flies crawling on a chocolate brain!
That sounds like the best avy ever lmao.
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Do you guys ever get request from readers to write stories about them? I seem to get them all the time. I guess people seem to get me mixed up with that other person that wrote with a K.
I just can't seem to do it. It's a little weird. Sometimes I'll write a one-shot or songfic for a friend who has a birthday coming up or made it through cancer like my friend Michelle, you know, some special event, as a surprise, but request?
I keep getting request lately for some reason, especially from this one person who wants me to write "another story about her and Nick." Uh, I don't remember writing the first one LMFAO
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Do you guys ever get request from readers to write stories about them? I seem to get them all the time. I guess people seem to get me mixed up with that other person that wrote with a K.
I just can't seem to do it. It's a little weird. Sometimes I'll write a one-shot or songfic for a friend who has a birthday coming up or made it through cancer like my friend Michelle, you know, some special event, as a surprise, but request?
I keep getting request lately for some reason, especially from this one person who wants me to write "another story about her and Nick." Uh, I don't remember writing the first one LMFAO
I must be out of the loop, I don't know who the other K person is lol
I've never gotten requests but then again we don't really write in the same genre and you actually write whereas I stare at half-finished chapters.
I think that would be a little weird. At first I was going to say "especially if you don't know the person" but in retrospect I think it would be a little odd either way. I'm assuming they're looking for a romance with them in it too and I just don't get that.
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I've had a couple people email me or DM me or Tweet me with requests before. One girl filled out this big long My Space style survey and emailed it to me with like 12 pictures of herself and said I should make her fall in love with Nick. I was like no thats okay, LOL. It was really weird... I've never written anyone into a fic before, not even myself.
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LOL Who's that other person who wrote with a K?
My readers don't make requests like that, but I've never given them any indication that I would write stories about people per their request. I've written a few kills for the RotS round robin, and I've given readers little cameos in stories as a thank you for their feedback, but I can't see myself writing a whole story about a reader, especially at their request. It's weird. I have more fun making up original characters if I'm not writing about just the Boys.
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I must be out of the loop, I don't know who the other K person is lol
I don't think I do either. lol
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Do you guys ever get request from readers to write stories about them? I seem to get them all the time. I guess people seem to get me mixed up with that other person that wrote with a K.
I just can't seem to do it. It's a little weird. Sometimes I'll write a one-shot or songfic for a friend who has a birthday coming up or made it through cancer like my friend Michelle, you know, some special event, as a surprise, but request?
I keep getting request lately for some reason, especially from this one person who wants me to write "another story about her and Nick." Uh, I don't remember writing the first one LMFAO
You mean Kristy? That's the only other K person I can think of.
I've gotten requests from people to have Nick kill them LOL. But for that thing, it's the point. That's it. Maybe it's because I don't write romance. If anyone requested anything else, I'd say no. Cause I write for me, not for others to fulfill their fantasies or something. If I do cameos, it's random.
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Kristy from Under the Sheets lol she mainly wrote visuals and took request. I DM'd you Julia lol
It is a little weird to write about people you know, that's why I don't do it that often and try to have a real story behind it when I do and not just straight out sex. Then when that part is written, I seriously write it with another name and then change names afterwards LOL!!
LMFAO Hannah, I've never had someone go that far!
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LMFAO Hannah, I've never had someone go that far!
LOL It was really awkward... I mean she basically did her own character sketch.
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The whole writing visuals about friends thing has always creeped me out. Sorry, but I don't want to picture any of you naked, and I don't want you describing my naked body either! That's just weird.
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LOL It was really awkward... I mean she basically did her own character sketch.
That is so strange lmao.
The whole writing visuals about friends thing has always creeped me out. Sorry, but I don't want to picture any of you naked, and I don't want you describing my naked body either! That's just weird.
Agreed! Just no. You want your fantasies written out? Write them out yourself LOL. Plenty of others do! :P
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LOL It was really awkward... I mean she basically did her own character sketch.
People used to actually do that though, if I recall correctly.
Back in the fanfic "glory days" when I first started writing there was a lot of people who would solicit characters for their stories. They would put up a form that people had to fill out and audition for a spot in their fic.
Other people would be offering them up like "Who wants me to write a story about them?"
I remember there being a lot of Yahoo Groups with tons of threads of people asking for stories or looking for characters. It was big business :P
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I just remembered that story a bunch of people worked on when the Boys announced the Cruise last year and it was like they kidnapped the BSB from the real cruise to go on a fantasy cruise. I wrote on that before I found out I was going on the cruise. Then I kinda went rouge on them. I like to think I stole the Boys back for real cruise for everyone. I was a double agent and I didn't even know it.
Anyways the point of bringing that up is that that is the only time I've written any people I know into stories. And we were all participating and writing in each other on that one so yeah I don't think it really counts.
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It was more of a parody than anything else so I wouldn't lump it into the same category
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It was big business :P
Too bad it doesn't bring in the $$$... I'd be rollin'... :dance:
( why oh why isn't there a smiley with a big gold grill on here? )
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Too bad it doesn't bring in the $$$... I'd be rollin'... :dance:
( why oh why isn't there a smiley with a big gold grill on here? )
Same reason there's no zombie smileys on here :( LOL
It was more of a parody than anything else so I wouldn't lump it into the same category
Agreed, I think it's different when it's a parody. The most I've done is cameos, no one really too serious to the story.
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That reminds me of good old Refresh and the whole "auditioning for roles in fanfics" thing they did over there. One of the "writers" would post in the forum and be like, "I need a female lead for this ficcy I'm writing! Go!" and all the teenies would reply with a description of themselves: "Amanduh, 18 years old, 5'7", raven black hair, sapphire blue eyes, tan skin, athletic, was a cheerleader in h.s., likes to laugh, etc. etc. etc." It was so weird LOL. I'd never seen that happen in our fandom, although I could see them doing that on the fan club fanfic forums cause those are like a whole different world from this one LOL.
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I'd never seen that happen in our fandom, although I could see them doing that on the fan club fanfic forums cause those are like a whole different world from this one LOL.
I definitely did when YahooGroups were still really popular. People would either be looking to be in a fanfic, looking to find people to be in one or looking for people to role play with.
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Have you seen the FF forums on the FCs? They kinda scare me...
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Too bad it doesn't bring in the $$$... I'd be rollin'... :dance:
( why oh why isn't there a smiley with a big gold grill on here? )
I read in some 50 Shades article that One Direction's record label PAID a fan to write fan fiction about them.
Wish the hell BSB would do that.
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I definitely did when YahooGroups were still really popular. People would either be looking to be in a fanfic, looking to find people to be in one or looking for people to role play with.
OMG the RPG rooms in the AOL Private Chats.. lmao.. I'm dying laughing now. Those were always so incredibly ridiculous. LOL
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Have you seen the FF forums on the FCs? They kinda scare me...
Yes, I just posted my link and ran.
Although it does crack me up they actually have fan fiction forums LOL
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I read in some 50 Shades article that One Direction's record label PAID a fan to write fan fiction about them.
Wish the hell BSB would do that.
That'd be so awesome. lol
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Yes, I just posted my link and ran.
Although it does crack me up they actually have fan fiction forums LOL
LOL I'd be scared to post a link to my work on there because what if the Boys scout it out. I'm like traumatized enough that they're following me on Twitter and we all know that 1/2 the time it isn't even one of them posting on that damn account. LMAO
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LOL I'd be scared to post a link to my work on there because what if the Boys scout it out. I'm like traumatized enough that they're following me on Twitter and we all know that 1/2 the time it isn't even one of them posting on that damn account. LMAO
Try having Howie follow you! I literally just tweeted that it was nice he was connecting to the fans (during his solo promo), and he followed me. And this was before he started following like half the fandom. You know how many cracks I've made about a Homicidal Howie? I was SO paranoid of him seeing shit lmao.
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I definitely did when YahooGroups were still really popular. People would either be looking to be in a fanfic, looking to find people to be in one or looking for people to role play with.
The only Yahoo Groups I joined were update lists for websites and Mare's fanfic discussion group, and I can assure you there were none of those shenanigans happening in Mare's group LOL. I guess I missed out on all that fun!
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Bulldogs, hitmen and strippers make me think of Erika, lol, sorry Erika :)
Why Steph...don't be sorry I think that's freakin awesome!!
I also think of Erika when I see twinkies from her story I read hehe :P
Hehe thanks Tracy!
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Try having Howie follow you! I literally just tweeted that it was nice he was connecting to the fans (during his solo promo), and he followed me. And this was before he started following like half the fandom. You know how many cracks I've made about a Homicidal Howie? I was SO paranoid of him seeing shit lmao.
The only time I ever got Howie to respond was when his CD came out, I asked on Twitter if anyone knew if it was available on iTunes and I didn't even @ him. I didn't even specifically say HOWIE DOROUGH or HOWIE D or the title of the CD or anything he should've picked up on. All I said was "Anyone know if Howie's CD is on iTunes?" and HE freaking responded.
My point is: Howie's got radar, man. Be careful.
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The only time I ever got Howie to respond was when his CD came out, I asked on Twitter if anyone knew if it was available on iTunes and I didn't even @ him. I didn't even specifically say HOWIE DOROUGH or HOWIE D or the title of the CD or anything he should've picked up on. All I said was "Anyone know if Howie's CD is on iTunes?" and HE freaking responded.
My point is: Howie's got radar, man. Be careful.
That's why he's stealth...
Like seriously, I've relaxed but I don't make nearly as many Howie cracks as I used to. It's depressing lmao. If I knew it was Jen on there it'd be whatever, but of course Howie uses his own damn twitter :P. Kinda wish he'd be more like Nick with his random robo-tweets.
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Robo-tweets!? What do you mean? Nick isn't the one posting on his Twitter?!??? Talk about shattered images. :'(
;)
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It's always weird when you tweet something about something without @ mentioning anyone or hashtagging anything and get a reply back from whoever/whatever you were talking about. I tweeted last night about it being the best TV night of the week because of Dance Moms and NY Med, and I got a tweet back from one of the hospitals featured on NY Med. And a few weeks ago I tweeted about Transylvania University in Lexington and how I thought it unfortunate that their mascot is the Pioneers and not the Vampires or Draculas or something, and they actually replied back and explained why they're the Pioneers (because their university was formed before Dracula was written)! Just goes to show, you never know who might see what you tweet, so don't tweet anything that might come back to haunt you later! LOL
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LMFAO that is so random and weird.
As long as Nick doesn't tweet me in reply to a tweet about killing him in every chapter, I'll be alright. While it's a parody and I mean no harm... I'd be beyond mortified. He doesn't need to know I've turned him into our own personal Kenny :P.
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Try having Howie follow you! I literally just tweeted that it was nice he was connecting to the fans (during his solo promo), and he followed me. And this was before he started following like half the fandom. You know how many cracks I've made about a Homicidal Howie? I was SO paranoid of him seeing shit lmao.
Exactly why when I talk about how hot Nick is now, I refer to him as Pedro. LOL
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LOL That's funny. I think some places/people do like keyword search. But I mean unless he was searching straight up "Howie" there was nothing in my Tweet to attract him to it. I stand by my previous assumption that Howie possesses radar.
Here's a question: If you were to write a Avengers style fic, what superpowers would each of the Boys have? and no stealing the answer from Nick's comic book either. LOL
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Which leads me to a question - if you HAD to choose a fic for the Boys to read of yours, which would it be any why?
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The only time I ever got Howie to respond was when his CD came out, I asked on Twitter if anyone knew if it was available on iTunes and I didn't even @ him. I didn't even specifically say HOWIE DOROUGH or HOWIE D or the title of the CD or anything he should've picked up on. All I said was "Anyone know if Howie's CD is on iTunes?" and HE freaking responded.
My point is: Howie's got radar, man. Be careful.
Brian too! After the cruise, I tweeted how he posted our picture from the cruise on his Facebook page (not sure HOW he got it) and he tweeted me back saying it was a great picture. I was like dude, I wasn't talking to you LOL
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Exactly why when I talk about how hot Nick is now, I refer to him as Pedro. LOL
Lmao...
**Meanwhile, somewhere in London, Nick is scrolling through his Timeline, sees you talking about how sexy Pedro is.
Nick: *scratches head* Who in the frick is Pedro? I thought she liked me? ... *gasp* I'VE BEEN REPLACED?
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Yeah, I'm sure that's where it came from. The @backstreetboys account is following me, but they're following so many other people that I don't worry too much about censoring my fanfic-related tweets. I might be a little more aware of it if it were one of the Boys themselves, which is why you will never see me begging for a follow!
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It's always weird when you tweet something about something without @ mentioning anyone or hashtagging anything and get a reply back from whoever/whatever you were talking about. I tweeted last night about it being the best TV night of the week because of Dance Moms and NY Med, and I got a tweet back from one of the hospitals featured on NY Med. And a few weeks ago I tweeted about Transylvania University in Lexington and how I thought it unfortunate that their mascot is the Pioneers and not the Vampires or Draculas or something, and they actually replied back and explained why they're the Pioneers (because their university was formed before Dracula was written)! Just goes to show, you never know who might see what you tweet, so don't tweet anything that might come back to haunt you later! LOL
When I was in school one of our major projects was about media monitoring and we got to try out all these different programs that PR people in companies use to find the name of their company on the internet. It was kind of interesting because there is so much that has to be filtered out in order to find the right name and not a similar name of a different company or a misspelling, etc.
I always intentionally bitch about my internet without @replying my ISP and they always tweet back right away lol
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Brian too! After the cruise, I tweeted how he posted our picture from the cruise on his Facebook page (not sure HOW he got it) and he tweeted me back saying it was a great picture. I was like dude, I wasn't talking to you LOL
LMAO. Did you @ tag him when you said that? His reaction would be priceless.... Like my mom told Sebastian Bach from Skid Row to shut up once when she met him cos he handed her a thing to read and she was reading it and he started talking and she just went "SHUT UP, I'm reading!".... and I'm thinking the reaction would be similar. lmfao
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Lmao...
**Meanwhile, somewhere in London, Nick is scrolling through his Timeline, sees you talking about how sexy Pedro is.
Nick: *scratches head* Who in the frick is Pedro? I thought she liked me? ... *gasp* I'VE BEEN REPLACED?
Maybe that's why he hasn't logged into MC lately LMFAO jk
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Which leads me to a question - if you HAD to choose a fic for the Boys to read of yours, which would it be any why?
Fear of Flying because I think they need to know the Llama story. LOL
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Exactly why when I talk about how hot Nick is now, I refer to him as Pedro. LOL
I never ever want Nick to follow me. He would see way too much that I can't let him see lmao.
LOL That's funny. I think some places/people do like keyword search. But I mean unless he was searching straight up "Howie" there was nothing in my Tweet to attract him to it. I stand by my previous assumption that Howie possesses radar.
Here's a question: If you were to write a Avengers style fic, what superpowers would each of the Boys have? and no stealing the answer from Nick's comic book either. LOL
Nick - Iron Man
AJ - Hulk
Brian - Captain America
Kevin - Thor
And I'm still incapable of having Howie be a hero so he'd end up as Loki LMAO.
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LMAO. Did you @ tag him when you said that? His reaction would be priceless.... Like my mom told Sebastian Bach from Skid Row to shut up once when she met him cos he handed her a thing to read and she was reading it and he started talking and she just went "SHUT UP, I'm reading!".... and I'm thinking the reaction would be similar. lmfao
LMFAO Yeah when I said my picture was on his facebook page. LMAO It was the most random thing ever. Between that and asking the BSB account before we got to Miami if the hotel had free internet and they replied they didn't know. LOL
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Maybe that's why he hasn't logged into MC lately LMFAO jk
Yeah he doesn't wanna read about any Mexican dudes stealin' the lovin'. LOL
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LMFAO Yeah when I said my picture was on his facebook page. LMAO It was the most random thing ever. Between that and asking the BSB account before we got to Miami if the hotel had free internet and they replied they didn't know. LOL
Is it sad that it STILL pisses me off that hotel didn't have free wifi?
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I never ever want Nick to follow me. He would see way too much that I can't let him see lmao.
I was half asleep the day I answered the short circuit question he asked in order to follow someone. Damn me and my 80 movies.
But he watches what you say on Twitter. That's how he knew that Michelle was in remission. Apparently he saw me saying it. Fucking scary.
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I've been requested to write people into fics and I will do it but the ppl will be small roles typically OR I will use them how I want them. It was more or less the persons name I would use. Once I put your name in the story the character becomes mine and I will do with the person what I need for my story. :)
I've only requested to be in the stories where Nick and the guys take revenge on fanfic writer's. The humor/parady stories. :)
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I honestly don't know which story I would want Nick to read if I knew he was for sure reading one.
Maybe the "Fearless" series that I'm writing with Lisa b/c I love how crazy Nick is in it and I know he loves the Wahlberg.
Of my own though, maybe "Superstar" or "The Story of Us."
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To answer my own question about what fanfic I'd pick if they HAD to read one... probably Song For The Undead. I feel like they'd think I was less psychotic when they saw what Julie and I put them through in that one. Maybe? That, and Nick tweeted about liking Walking Dead, maybe he'd like it LMAO.
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But he watches what you say on Twitter.
I read this and I envision him sitting somewhere in a long grey trench coat, eating a dry head of lettuce, absently stroking Nacho's head, in a big egg-shaped chair staring at the computer, scrolling through all the fans' tweets.
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Which leads me to a question - if you HAD to choose a fic for the Boys to read of yours, which would it be any why?
00Carter because it's pretty much the only one in which I don't torture, maim, or kill them or their family members, so I would feel less awkward about them reading it than my other fics. And who knows, maybe they'd get a kick out of it.
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00Carter because it's pretty much the only one in which I don't torture, maim, or kill them or their family members, so I would feel less awkward about them reading it than my other fics. And who knows, maybe they'd get a kick out of it.
You know, that's probably a better choice than mine.
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You know, that's probably a better choice than mine.
Undead would have been my second choice, but I'm not sure I would want Brian reading the scene of Leighanne and the towel bar LOL.
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I almost said Saving the Day for Blondes for the reason that I could see Nick getting off on being the hero and savin' the day and stuff. LOL But I dunno. I'm gonna stand by my Fear of Flying thing just because it has now become iconic in a way.
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Undead would have been my second choice, but I'm not sure I would want Brian reading the scene of Leighanne and the towel bar LOL.
Yeah that came to me AFTER lol. At least Nick gets off easy. Unlike...well basically every other story I've ever written.
Oooh, another question. What's the worst thing you've ever done to a BSB in a story?
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No one's ever really requested me to write them into fics aside from when I was younger and my friends and I used to only write stories about each other. But that's a given when you're 12.
This one girl on 1DFF was grateful I helped her with her story, and she offered to make me a character in it. Um awkward but I didn't want to tell her no because that's just the practice over there. (Even though I don't do it, screw their "auditions" I'll make up my own characters lol) I just gave her a fake name and fake description and that's what she used! Kinda weird to read about this fake "me" in the story but it's a hell of a lot better than the real me!
Karah, I'm unsure that 50 Shades article you read had its sources correct as I don't think One Direction would pay any fan to write a fic about them. (Unless you're talking about their rise to fame graphic novel coming out in the fall, but even still I don't think it was by a fan.) Louis actually has spoken out that he was quite uncomfortable with Room 317 (which is their fandoms massively popular fic that even trended on twitter) and it has made him feel as though he can't be as close with Harry in interviews anymore.
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Story I'd have them read: Uh..... if I completed the fanfic Wulf's Bane, that one. LOL.
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I would sooner throw my laptop to the ground and set it ablaze than let one of them read something I wrote lol
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Which leads me to a question - if you HAD to choose a fic for the Boys to read of yours, which would it be any why?
Um, none of them!
Maybe the one where Nick has to save the world from angels who are trying to reclaim it, if I ever write more than the first chapter finish it.
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What's the worst thing you've ever done to a BSB in a story?
Uhh I've killed Brian, sent Nick to jail where he got beat up by big scary dudes, killed Howie a few times (what else do you do with him when you can't make him sleep 24/7? seriously), AJ's been kidnapped, I've killed Kevin off and had Kevin wish his life away... Oh and Nick got attacked by the "rapist llama". LMAO
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I would sooner throw my laptop to the ground and set it ablaze than let one of them read something I wrote lol
Good idea. Can I change my answer to this too please? Way to think outside the box. LOL
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Karah, I'm unsure that 50 Shades article you read had its sources correct as I don't think One Direction would pay any fan to write a fic about them. (Unless you're talking about their rise to fame graphic novel coming out in the fall, but even still I don't think it was by a fan.) Louis actually has spoken out that he was quite uncomfortable with Room 317 (which is their fandoms massively popular fic that even trended on twitter) and it has made him feel as though he can't be as close with Harry in interviews anymore.
Oh no, they didn't. The label did it. I was some Publisher's Weekly article a few weeks back talking about how fan fiction is influencing today's regular fiction. I can try to find the article if you want. I think I favorited it LOL
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Nick - Um... probably either having him be killed by being impaled by a moose's antlers when it was thrown into his car, or giving him Almheizer's. One's a really bad random way to die, the other is just cruel having him live like that LOL. Or being decapitated by an elevator...cru shed to death in a trash truck...
Brian - Deciding he had to kill his wife and daughters cause we made them zombies LOL. Oh, and I had him commit suicide after he listened to the grapes and kill Howie.
AJ - Putting him in an insane asylum for killing Nick, snapping his neck in a bus crash, or a psycho fan having him watch as she decapitates Rochelle
Howie - Getting shot in the head by Brian after he's told to by grapes, or always making him the psycho killer lol...which in one case lands him in an insane asylum. Oh! No, it's when I have him impaled by a guitar in his neck after a bus crash!
Kevin - Getting decapitated by Nick with an axe after he's told to by grapes lmao.
Wow...I'm really mean LMFAO.
Good idea. Can I change my answer to this too please? Way to think outside the box. LOL
No lol. They find your profile anyway :P
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Yeah that came to me AFTER lol. At least Nick gets off easy. Unlike...well basically every other story I've ever written.
Oooh, another question. What's the worst thing you've ever done to a BSB in a story?
I think Howie being an undercover assassin who kills Nick (and accidentally kills Kevin in the process) takes the cake on that one! The rest of my stuff is fairly tame. Angtsy, but tame.
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I would sooner throw my laptop to the ground and set it ablaze than let one of them read something I wrote lol
LOL not acceptable, they find you on AC anyway :P.
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Oh no, they didn't. The label did it. I was some Publisher's Weekly article a few weeks back talking about how fan fiction is influencing today's regular fiction. I can try to find the article if you want. I think I favorited it LOL
I meant One Direction as an entity - not the guys themselves.
If you could link me that would be great because I feel like I would have heard about this lol. Either way that doesn't seem like something the boys themselves would appreciate very much.
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You know, I think I enjoyed answering my torture question too much...
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I am relatively tame comparatively when it comes to being mean to the boys.
Though I keep having Kevin kill Nick... hrm..... wonder what that's about.
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I've heard about the 1D fan fic thing too a couple times in various articles.
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I am relatively tame comparatively when it comes to being mean to the boys.
Though I keep having Kevin kill Nick... hrm..... wonder what that's about.
*thinks of some of the Looks they've exchanged*
....prophecy?
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*blinks* I've never had Kevin kill Nick. Maybe it's just too obvious. I never realized that though lol
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I think Howie being an undercover assassin who kills Nick (and accidentally kills Kevin in the process) takes the cake on that one! The rest of my stuff is fairly tame. Angtsy, but tame.
You notice it's usually Howie who kills people?
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*thinks of some of the Looks they've exchanged*
....prophecy?
LOL ... is it bad I just got a story idea from this reply?
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LOL ... is it bad I just got a story idea from this reply?
lmao I feel honored to have jump started a muse. ;D
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I meant One Direction as an entity - not the guys themselves.
If you could link me that would be great because I feel like I would have heard about this lol. Either way that doesn't seem like something the boys themselves would appreciate very much.
I'm trying to find it. LOL I thought I had it favorited on my Twitter account but I don't LOL
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*blinks* I've never had Kevin kill Nick. Maybe it's just too obvious. I never realized that though lol
I've never had Kevin as a Backstreet Boy kill Nick... it's been my AU stories that he's killed him in.
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You notice it's usually Howie who kills people?
It's because nobody knows what else to do with the lil freaky dude. It's either sleep through the whole thing or slaughter everyone unmercifully.
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leaving for lunch, I hate to think of how long this thread will be when I get back. LOL
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I've heard about the 1D fan fic thing too a couple times in various articles.
I want to find it so I can read it!! And also so I can make money off of my own.
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It's because nobody knows what else to do with the lil freaky dude. It's either sleep through the whole thing or slaughter everyone unmercifully.
He really makes an epic psycho lmao.
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LOL not acceptable, they find you on AC anyway :P.
Whut?
Besides, it's been so long since I've written anything that I don't even think the waybackmachine could find it, it's so buried.
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Stereotypes for the Boys -
Howie - villian
Nick - victim
LOL
Whut?
Besides, it's been so long since I've written anything that I don't even think the waybackmachine could find it, it's so buried.
Cheater! Besides I distinctly remember you writing something last year I think lol.
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Whut?
Besides, it's been so long since I've written anything that I don't even think the waybackmachine could find it, it's so buried.
I'm envisioning archaeologists unburying transcripts of our stories now and freaking out over all the untold BSB controversy uncovered. LMAO
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I'm envisioning archaeologists unburying transcripts of our stories now and freaking out over all the untold BSB controversy uncovered. LMAO
Can you imagine AC getting discovered in the distant future by archaeologists?
"Who were these 'Backstreet Boys' and how did they manage to do so many crazy things?"
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I meant One Direction as an entity - not the guys themselves.
If you could link me that would be great because I feel like I would have heard about this lol. Either way that doesn't seem like something the boys themselves would appreciate very much.
Here's some quality stuff for you, Steph! lol
Wired magazine wrote about the attention brought to a One Direction cartoon created by Mark Parsons, beginning "Normally, fan fiction about U.K. boy band One Direction is not anything new on the internet. But when that fanfic comes in the form of a video created by the lead animator of raunchy spy cartoon Archer...and gets more than a million YouTube views in less than two days — it’s worth noting." They also suggest that the video, unlike regular fanfic "has rather creative layers that tie together pop culture tropes" and "if this means that fan fiction is moving from Fifty Shades of Grey into viral video territory, that’s totally OK." The widely duplicated press coverage was viral in its own way, leading to stories that the band members might contribute to future work.
In possibly the ultimate baitlink, one site managed to combine discussion of One Direction, Fifty Shades of Grey and mentions of slash all into one story. "Harry Styles and the rest of One Direction have tons of raunchy fan fiction written about them, so it was only a matter of time before someone decided to combine 1D and the erotic novel Fifty Shades of Grey. However, it seemed more likely that the fanfic writer would be a cougar with a crush on Hazza or a Directioner that found her mom's copy of Fifty Shades, not a male Associated Editor of NOW Magazine." The author went on to note "Plenty of erotic novel writers will probably try to replicate the success of Fifty Shades by focusing on stories about sadomasochism, but they'll likely fail since readers are always looking for something new. The older woman and younger man angle really might be a smart way to go since it's also a bit taboo." Another piece of good advice? "If Gavin Reeve-Daniels is hoping to sell his Fifty Shades of One Direction story to actual Directioners, he's got it all wrong - what they'd like to read would be a Larry Stylinson (Harry and Louis Tomlinson) or Narry (Harry and Niall Horan) love story."
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Steph! Here it is! Publisher's Weekly had posted the link, but it's from the Wall Street Journal.... it's about fan fiction, but mentions One Direction about halfway down.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303734204577464411825970488.html
Really an interesting read for anybody that writes fan fic LOL
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Oooh, another question. What's the worst thing you've ever done to a BSB in a story?
I don't even know! There are the serious things, like giving them terminal illnesses and amputating legs and forcing them to kill their families, and then there are the joke things, like all the Nick deaths I wrote for 1000 Ways and the horror challenge stories I've done.
Ignoring the joke ones for now, I guess the worst thing I've done would be the slow, painful death from a terminal illness because there's no coming back from that. One theme of my angsty dramas tends to be that life goes on and gets better after a tragedy, but it can't if you're dead LOL. So I guess that.
But I will say, I think the end of one of the stories I'm writing now is going to beat that one. :angel:
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Worst thing I've ever done to a BSB in a fan fiction....
Nick date Paris Hilton.... oh wait, that was real.
Hmmm, probably Nick kill himself.... or go to prison for killing the mother of his unborn child.
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Nick date Paris Hilton.... oh wait, that was real.
LMAO
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Nick date Paris Hilton.... oh wait, that was real.
LMAO :D
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Nick date Paris Hilton.... oh wait, that was real.
LOL Sometimes reality is far worse than fiction.
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When you write, which one of the Boys' personality is closest to your own? Do you ever make them say phrases or do things or be obsessed with things that you are that they aren't in real life?
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Here's some quality stuff for you, Steph! lol
Wired magazine wrote about the attention brought to a One Direction cartoon created by Mark Parsons, beginning "Normally, fan fiction about U.K. boy band One Direction is not anything new on the internet. But when that fanfic comes in the form of a video created by the lead animator of raunchy spy cartoon Archer...and gets more than a million YouTube views in less than two days — it’s worth noting." They also suggest that the video, unlike regular fanfic "has rather creative layers that tie together pop culture tropes" and "if this means that fan fiction is moving from Fifty Shades of Grey into viral video territory, that’s totally OK." The widely duplicated press coverage was viral in its own way, leading to stories that the band members might contribute to future work.
In possibly the ultimate baitlink, one site managed to combine discussion of One Direction, Fifty Shades of Grey and mentions of slash all into one story. "Harry Styles and the rest of One Direction have tons of raunchy fan fiction written about them, so it was only a matter of time before someone decided to combine 1D and the erotic novel Fifty Shades of Grey. However, it seemed more likely that the fanfic writer would be a cougar with a crush on Hazza or a Directioner that found her mom's copy of Fifty Shades, not a male Associated Editor of NOW Magazine." The author went on to note "Plenty of erotic novel writers will probably try to replicate the success of Fifty Shades by focusing on stories about sadomasochism, but they'll likely fail since readers are always looking for something new. The older woman and younger man angle really might be a smart way to go since it's also a bit taboo." Another piece of good advice? "If Gavin Reeve-Daniels is hoping to sell his Fifty Shades of One Direction story to actual Directioners, he's got it all wrong - what they'd like to read would be a Larry Stylinson (Harry and Louis Tomlinson) or Narry (Harry and Niall Horan) love story."
Oh right I forgot about The Adventurous Adventures of One Direction cartoon. I think they actually did commission that guy to make more! Totally not in my mind as fanfic though even though it technically was.
Karah - thanks for the article! I had heard about that wattpad thing but I was thinking more along the lines of something that was actually in bookstores ala 50 Shades.
I feel better now because I was like what is this book and where can I find ittttt lol
Also is it totally lame of me to point out in that article the second pairing should be Niam. No one ships Narry, come on.
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Do you guys ever get request from readers to write stories about them? I seem to get them all the time. I guess people seem to get me mixed up with that other person that wrote with a K.
I just can't seem to do it. It's a little weird. Sometimes I'll write a one-shot or songfic for a friend who has a birthday coming up or made it through cancer like my friend Michelle, you know, some special event, as a surprise, but request?
I keep getting request lately for some reason, especially from this one person who wants me to write "another story about her and Nick." Uh, I don't remember writing the first one LMFAO
That's uber creepy lol and lmao Hannah! That's too much!
I have never had people really ask me to write them into fic like that but then again I have my characters carving MINE into people and reciting bible versus before they stab each other, so I can't really see someone wanting that to happen. I am pretty sure i've never written a love or sex scene in my life, that i'd want to remember lmao
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That reminds me of good old Refresh and the whole "auditioning for roles in fanfics" thing they did over there. One of the "writers" would post in the forum and be like, "I need a female lead for this ficcy I'm writing! Go!" and all the teenies would reply with a description of themselves: "Amanduh, 18 years old, 5'7", raven black hair, sapphire blue eyes, tan skin, athletic, was a cheerleader in h.s., likes to laugh, etc. etc. etc." It was so weird LOL. I'd never seen that happen in our fandom, although I could see them doing that on the fan club fanfic forums cause those are like a whole different world from this one LOL.
LMAO oh the memories!
I love horses! :)
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Which leads me to a question - if you HAD to choose a fic for the Boys to read of yours, which would it be any why?
Oh my gosh I go out for chinese food and come back to a boatload of pages to catch up on! LOL
I would pick Why I'd Do it all Again just and ask them if I got it even remotely close to how it was back then lol
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Yeah that came to me AFTER lol. At least Nick gets off easy. Unlike...well basically every other story I've ever written.
Oooh, another question. What's the worst thing you've ever done to a BSB in a story?
Hrmmm.... Carve MINE into Nick probably lol in the nicest possible way though :)
and I never want any of the guys to follow me ever! lmao
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Oh my gosh I go out for chinese food and come back to a boatload of pages to catch up on! LOL
I would pick Why I'd Do it all Again just and ask them if I got it even remotely close to how it was back then lol
Chinese food? Nom.
That leads me to a question... is there a type of food you find yourself feeding your characters that you like in particular? Do they go out for Chinese food? Order in pizza? Microwave popcorn?
Or do they not eat because they're manorexic or vampires?
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Chinese food? Nom.
That leads me to a question... is there a type of food you find yourself feeding your characters that you like in particular? Do they go out for Chinese food? Order in pizza? Microwave popcorn?
Or do they not eat because they're manorexic or vampires?
Nick likes Twinkies. I hate Twinkies. I blame Jen (evergreenwrite r) for the Twinkie thing though. She did that once and it's kinda stuck with me. So even though I get blamed for the Twinkie obsession, it's actually the OTHER Llama's fault, not mine.
Innocence, proved.
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Nick - Um... probably either having him be killed by being impaled by a moose's antlers when it was thrown into his car, or giving him Almheizer's. One's a really bad random way to die, the other is just cruel having him live like that LOL. Or being decapitated by an elevator...cru shed to death in a trash truck...
Brian - Deciding he had to kill his wife and daughters cause we made them zombies LOL. Oh, and I had him commit suicide after he listened to the grapes and kill Howie.
AJ - Putting him in an insane asylum for killing Nick, snapping his neck in a bus crash, or a psycho fan having him watch as she decapitates Rochelle
Howie - Getting shot in the head by Brian after he's told to by grapes, or always making him the psycho killer lol...which in one case lands him in an insane asylum. Oh! No, it's when I have him impaled by a guitar in his neck after a bus crash!
Kevin - Getting decapitated by Nick with an axe after he's told to by grapes lmao.
Wow...I'm really mean LMFAO.
No lol. They find your profile anyway :P
lmao okay now I think I also associate you with talking grapes
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When you write, which one of the Boys' personality is closest to your own? Do you ever make them say phrases or do things or be obsessed with things that you are that they aren't in real life?
I would think it's safe to say that Nick is me in a lot of ways lol his thought process and mine are very similar. I would like to think I am the less blond version of him. The eye rolloing comes from me totally. I roll my eyes so much during the course of one day that one day they're going to stay like that fo sho!
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Chinese food? Nom.
That leads me to a question... is there a type of food you find yourself feeding your characters that you like in particular? Do they go out for Chinese food? Order in pizza? Microwave popcorn?
Or do they not eat because they're manorexic or vampires?
yes nom nom indeed but I am too stuffed! LOL those buffets will be the death of me!
As far as the boys, I tend to make pizza a big thing or if I hear they ate somewhere like sushi in my last one or going to a deli or McDonald's. They tend to eat a lot in my fics! LOL
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yes nom nom indeed but I am too stuffed! LOL those buffets will be the death of me!
As far as the boys, I tend to make pizza a big thing or if I hear they ate somewhere like sushi in my last one or going to a deli or McDonald's. They tend to eat a lot in my fics! LOL
I tend to write them eating when I'm actually hungry myself. in Fighting Fate though, I swear all Nick did was eat... seemed like every time I wrote a chapter he was eating something or other.
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When you write, which one of the Boys' personality is closest to your own? Do you ever make them say phrases or do things or be obsessed with things that you are that they aren't in real life?
Nick's LOL. Nick usually gets my random tendency to sing or the way I'll think of off the wall shit out of nowhere. I usually will sometimes put in my own feelings about family drama into Nick's and exaggerate it while mixing it with how the Carters really are. Most of me goes into Nick.
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Chinese food? Nom.
That leads me to a question... is there a type of food you find yourself feeding your characters that you like in particular? Do they go out for Chinese food? Order in pizza? Microwave popcorn?
Or do they not eat because they're manorexic or vampires?
When I'm feeding them, it's usually something I'm craving at the time LOL.
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lmao okay now I think I also associate you with talking grapes
LMFAO that was your fault for making that a challenge!
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When you write, which one of the Boys' personality is closest to your own? Do you ever make them say phrases or do things or be obsessed with things that you are that they aren't in real life?
I am probably most like Kevin so ummmm yeah... I write him pretty well... though I typically don't make him obsessed with a boyband sitting at home writing fanfic while Mason sleeps and his wife groans that he is writing fanfic instead of his original fiction again.
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When you write, which one of the Boys' personality is closest to your own? Do you ever make them say phrases or do things or be obsessed with things that you are that they aren't in real life?
In real life, I think my personality is closest to Kevin's, which is funny because I don't write Kevin stories LOL. I think I insert aspects of my personality into whichever guy I'm writing about, while still trying to write them how I see them. I don't purposely change their personalities or interests to fit my own, but if we do have something in common, I'll use that. I'm a huge South Park fan, for example, and can find a South Park reference for just about anything, so sometimes I'll have Nick make South Park references because I know he's watched that show. I don't think I've ever had Brian quote South Park, though, because it doesn't fit him.
That leads me to a question... is there a type of food you find yourself feeding your characters that you like in particular?
I have them eat pizza and ice cream a lot. Pizza and ice cream are my favorite foods. LOL
I seem to write a lot of breakfast scenes too. I like breakfast, but rarely have enough time for it in real life; on a work day, my breakfast is usually coffee and a granola bar, maybe a bowl of cereal if I get up early enough. So my stories are a way to fantasize about what it would be like to savor a nice big breakfast every day. :) LOL
I can't read or write about food without making myself hungry! It's a good thing I just finished lunch, or I would probably be wanting to make pancakes right about now LOL.
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There's never a bad time for pancakes!
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There's never a bad time for pancakes!
This is true! I may have made French toast at like 2 a.m. one time when I was writing Curtain Call because they were eating French toast in the story and I started craving it. This was before ACBL. Bad! LOL
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Breakfast is my biggest meal of the day usually! Since I'm such an early bird I generally have a lot of time to make my turkey bacon & egg white burritos! Yum lol
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Except when I over indulge on Chinese for lunch lol
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Oh, and I have written people I know into my stories. Mersey is my main villain in the Protect and serve stories and Rose was AJ's psychotic girlfriend in a challenge story. I think I made Julie a doctor in 5 BSBs lol probably a lot more that have slipped my mind at the moment. Lenni was in one too, I believe?
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Yay groundhog avy!
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Oh good it's showing? It's still the adorable sandwich kitty on my iPod lol
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Yep, it's there. Sometimes I have to refresh to get the new ones to show up.
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Which leads me to a question - if you HAD to choose a fic for the Boys to read of yours, which would it be any why?
I'd pick Rewind because I think it's the least offensive out of everything I've done. I'd be horrified if they read Save A Prayer, LOL.
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Hmm, the worst things I've done to the boys...
I've been quite nice to them really, it's other people I seem to torture :)
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^ oh yes stranding them in a jungle, breaking Howie's leg to the point where he was almost amputated. Having AJ attacked by a huge snake and Nick having to pick bot flies out of Jordan's head??? you are a sweetie ;)
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As for writing people into my stories. I've done it in the past. Over on the TTFF site I used to go on, everyone did it and I was new to fanfic and just took part in it. I don't mind writing people into my stories, but I'll do with them what I want :)
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^ oh yes stranding them in a jungle, breaking Howie's leg to the point where he was almost amputated. Having AJ attacked by a huge snake and Nick having to pick bot flies out of Jordan's head??? you are a sweetie ;)
Oh yeah, I suppose I'm quite mean after all lol
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^ oh yes stranding them in a jungle, breaking Howie's leg to the point where he was almost amputated. Having AJ attacked by a huge snake and Nick having to pick bot flies out of Jordan's head??? you are a sweetie ;)
I was just about to say that as well lol
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I was just looking at images to make my bot fly/chocolate brain avy and now feel quite sick, LOL. No wonder I was grossed out when I wrote that chapter!
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I have written stories for other people, but pretty much just use their name and just make up their personality.
The worst thing I've done to the BSB...um...I've got nothing on you guys. Kevin has cancer, AJ shoots Howie in the head, Nick Shoots his own ass, Nick's penis breaks off due to Viagra. See not even close.
Speaking of gruesome I think for the next Felix Awards you should make an award for "most gruesome BSB death" LOL!!
If I picked a story for the guys to read it would proly be Sinister Devotion or Fight Me. I wouldn't be too embarrassed.
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Wow you guys are chatty, I had to go through several pages before I got caught up.
Back to the questions though.
Would I let the guys read one of my stories? Hmmm probably When I Grow Up because it is the least offensive- minus the fact Leighanne was having an affair with Nick behind Brian's back.
As for things I've done to the boys...
Kevin: got beat up by Brian, picked on him constantly as the Tin Man in Jizzle of Oz....I'm doing something to him in Forces Of Nature that I can't mention yet. I just pick on Kevin a lot in general.
Brian: Watched helplessly as Nick was hit by a drunk driver and had to cut him out of the crushed vehicle, had to tell his fiancé Nick was in a coma. I also had leighanne having an affair with Nick behind his back. In Weird World I gave him a gunshot wound to the leg, then made him walk through a blizzard and being rescued. In FYO Brian had a gun held to his head while a fan told him she wanted him.
AJ: made him wait on Nick hand and foot while Nick was bedridden....b abysits Nick's kids and Aaron while he's working. In FYO he was kicked in the balls by Valerie. I also had Brian kill him with a weedwhacker.
Howie: he usually has nothing happen to him, I pick on him a lot but he's the one who gets the least abuse. Worst was having Nick's clone punch him in the face.
Nick: so many things lmao. I've had him in car accidents, fires, burned alive, eaten by sharks, electrocuted, drowned, horribly sick, left without the use of his legs or arm, broken ribs, stabbed multiple times, drowned in a car, crushed to death, hit by a car, run over by a reindeer, starved for three days...beaten. ...drowned in chocolate and sliced up, hit by a falling tree....I can't pick one for my answer but I always torture him. It's way too much fun.
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I've never gotten a request from anyone to be in a story of mine but I've paid homage to some of my favorite authors and used names of friends. If I feel it is appropriate I will give someone a cameo, like Julie in The Dating Game with the prosthetic leg. Or sometimes I use people without realizing it, like how I accidentally put Julilly as Nick's neighbor in The Dry Spell :)
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hit by a falling tree....
oh my god LMAO this is the most hilarious visual in my mind. Poor Nick.
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I'd pick Rewind because I think it's the least offensive out of everything I've done. I'd be horrified if they read Save A Prayer, LOL.
I think they would love Save a Prayer! It's such a "guy" type story - survival situation, plenty of gore, and the guys acting heroic to get each other out of the jungle. I don't think they'd be horrified at all! Now, the New Kids? Maybe. Especially Jordan. LOL
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LOL Steph. Yeah that was for 1000 Ways. Although I think him getting run over by a reindeer is the funniest thing ever.
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I've never gotten a request from anyone to be in a story of mine but I've paid homage to some of my favorite authors and used names of friends. If I feel it is appropriate I will give someone a cameo, like Julie in The Dating Game with the prosthetic leg. Or sometimes I use people without realizing it, like how I accidentally put Julilly as Nick's neighbor in The Dry Spell :)
Oh yeah! Lol I remember being like "did you just steal me?" :P
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Its so funny cause I didn't even realize that was your name. It was the first one I thought of at the time so I went with it. And hey, Nick was attracted to you LOL
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Oh yeah, can you imagine the New Kids reading Save A Prayer? I gave them all a horrible death, lol.
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*resist urge to make illiteracy crack....resis t...resist...*
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LMFAO
Joey could read it to the others...?
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Awww like a nice little bed time story.
Joey: *tucks Jordan into bed* and then Nick scrapes bot flies out of your exposed skull"
Jordan: *horrified* WHAT?
LMFAO ;)
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Bwahaha... is it really mean that I'm ridiculously humored by it when ANY of the NKOTB says Jordan's name? "JAHhhhDen" .... Bwahaha. I <3 the Boston accent. I'm gonna miss making fun of Bostonians after I move.
Boo, then everyone's gonna be makin' fun of MY accent when I move. lol
I must get my kicks while I can.
Jahhhden. bwahaha
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I had a neighbor in college that was from Mass. He finally caught on that we were getting him to repeat what he said just to hear him with his accent so said things once and if you really didn't catch what he said you were SOL.
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haha We used to do that to my mom sometimes, but she never caught on.
I went to go see that movie Ted the other day, and it was based in Boston and Mark Wahlburg worked at a Liberty car rental place and I was dyyyyin' cos Bostonians can't say Liberty.
They say "Libbitty".
Bwahahaha.
And I don't think that was planned to be part of the joke cos they didn't make fun of him saying it. LOL
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When writing, do you ever exaggerate certain parts of the Boys? For example, I know we've all exaggerated Nick's blonde moments (so you can't use that as your answer), but like say Brian's accent or Howie's winking? What's your favorite thing to exaggerate of them?
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No one is going to make fun of your accent in Nashville, Hannah because you're going to find that most of the people who live in Nashville aren't from there. lol
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^^ That sounds like Vegas lol. Almost nobody who lives here was actually from here.
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Yeah, It's chock full of musicians from everywhere as well as other professions since cost of living isn't that horrible compared the other big cities. I want to say in my apartment complex I only knew if three people who were from TN originally lol
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Truuuuuue... lol
But once you get out of Boston/NH area, people make fun of my accent cos apparently everyone in Boston/Southern NH has the Boston accent and we just don't know it. It's just that there's UBER Boston (the Boston accent I make fun of) and casually Boston (the one I apparently have). LOL People can always peg it dead on that I'm from the Boston area. I don't know how cos I don't feel like I have an accent.
Nick actually half made fun of me once at a VIP when I met them for it. LOL I said his last name and he repeated it and laughed. LOL But he repeated it "CahDah" and I do NOT say "CahDah".. LOL I think people have squishy ears sometimes. He likes making fun of the accent though. He always repeats stuff that's said in it when he's up this way. He's even said the "CahDah" thing in interviews before. (Long before the time that he teased me so obviously it's a fascination of his LOL)
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Yeah, It's chock full of musicians from everywhere as well as other professions since cost of living isn't that horrible compared the other big cities. I want to say in my apartment complex I only knew if three people who were from TN originally lol
The cost of living there is frickin ZILCH compared to New Hampshire. Seriously, we're literally saving hundreds of dollars a month making this move. And it's a huge art community. I'm really excited to see where I land, being in Graphic Design and all. It's gonna be crazy. There's nothing up here for Graphic Designers.
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My rent when I moved down there was half of what I was paying in Boston! It was nice lol
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Gotta love Boston AND their high rent. LOL ... I looked into apartments in the Boston area that were comparable to ours in NH and they were cheaper than they are in NH, too. NH is like the most expensive void ever. LOL There's nothing even here worth paying for either, it's just trees and moose droppings.
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I think people's accents are really interesting. I like to think I don't have much of an accent, but people may disagree :)
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yes I'm sure you have no accent just like you don't torture the boys in your stories... ;p
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I've been told I have a really strong Manitoban accent, but I don't really think I do... and I don't really know what that means lol. I think that I sound the same as most actors in American TV shows to be honest.
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^ that would be the accent I have then too. Though I am sure we both have some inflections we use that we don't realize.
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You're probably right about that!
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I don't think you have a heavy accent Steph lol.
Then again since I was writing about the cruise today for a chapter, all I hear you saying in my head is "Whyyyyy isn't Nick my husband?" lmao from Prom Night.
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Good! That's what everyone should think of when they think of me LOL. Prom night was so epic. I wrote an entire arc about the cruise in my new one, and made reference to the noisy girls above the stage on the Saturday night, haha.
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See I made reference to the suicidal shuttle drivers in the Bahamas LOL. One wrong move and they would've taken out five epic writers on AC! :P
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Manitoba, isn't that one of the locations for Ice Road Truckers? Do you sound like them? lmao
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I'm willing to bet it probably is! I sure hope I don't sound like them lol
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I've been told I have a really strong Manitoban accent, but I don't really think I do... and I don't really know what that means lol. I think that I sound the same as most actors in American TV shows to be honest.
I think we talk the same but then again I've heard the accent thing about myself before, too.
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If you do, I will find that highly comical as I hear their voices in my head as I read your replies! lol
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yes I'm sure you have no accent just like you don't torture the boys in your stories... ;p
LOL! No, I really don't have much of an accent.
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LOL! No, I really don't have much of an accent.
It is cute when I see random brit words in your fics though LOL.
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I've lived in new jersey my whole life and I have been told I don't sound like I'm from here. My sister has a thick Jersey accent and so does my mother, but for some reason I don't. I was on the phone yesterday with a friend from Ohio and she told me I don't sound like I'm from Jersey at all.
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I think Julie has an accent. She definitely sounds like she is from the mid-west!
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I have this friend in Australia that I talk to on the phone occasionally. When we first spoke I just kept listening and forgetting to talk because I love Aussie accents. She goes "why did you go quiet" and I said "I love your voice. Just keep going" LOL she thought it was funny.
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Here is another question...
Have you ever written or read a scene that was stuck in your head for days?
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Yes actually, I have. When writing Figured You Out, the scene with Lauren after they got back together really played through my mind and wouldn't leave me alone. That and the McDonald's scene LOL.
As for reading....Bri an carving MINE onto Nick and Nick baking someone into muffins pretty much scarred me for life.
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I think Julie has an accent. She definitely sounds like she is from the mid-west!
:)
I took this quiz once on American accents, and it was very accurate! I just went to find it and took it again, and it was still spot on.
http://www.gotoquiz.com/results/what_american_accent_do_you_have#
What American accent do you have? (http://www.gotoquiz.com/what_american_accent_do_you_have)
Your Result: The Midland
"You have a Midland accent" is just another way of saying "you don't have an accent." You probably are from the Midland (Pennsylvania, southern Ohio, southern Indiana, southern Illinois, and Missouri) but then for all we know you could be from Florida or Charleston or one of those big southern cities like Atlanta or Dallas. You have a good voice for TV and radio.
Quiz Created on GoTo Quiz (http://www.gotoquiz.com/)
This one is just American accents, but I'm sure there are others for Canada and other countries. I don't have time to Google right now, but if anyone else searches and finds a good one, post it here!
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I have this friend in Australia that I talk to on the phone occasionally. When we first spoke I just kept listening and forgetting to talk because I love Aussie accents. She goes "why did you go quiet" and I said "I love your voice. Just keep going" LOL she thought it was funny.
I love Australian and British/Irish accents! I'm sure I could listen to UK Steph talk all day! I find American accents more grating, especially the big city accents.
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Yeah I love British accents too! and Boston accents. I have a friend from there also. When we met at Nick's show in NYC I was fascinated by her Boston accent.
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I just took the quiz & it was pretty accurate. It said the Inland North. lol
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Apparently the accent I have is The Midland. I giggled at the "about" question... no I do not say aboot! haha
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Aboot! LOL I didn't think you had much of an accent when I met you, Steph.
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See I made reference to the suicidal shuttle drivers in the Bahamas LOL. One wrong move and they would've taken out five epic writers on AC! :P
I was literally more afraid of that driver's skillz than I have EVER been ever in a car before. Ever. And that includes being in the same driver's ed car while a guy who literally answered a question about how to avoid an accident with "uhh.. swerve?" and a girl whose first time behind the wheel she didn't even make it out of the parking lot before running over a squirrel and screaming hysterically.
Yeah, the driver was THAT skilled.
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I took this quiz once on American accents, and it was very accurate! I just went to find it and took it again, and it was still spot on.
Lmao Mine says the way I pronounce stuff I'm from the west.. LOL Um.. Interesting. Everyone says I sound Bostonian. I wonder where I went wrong. haha
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I was literally more afraid of that driver's skillz than I have EVER been ever in a car before. Ever. And that includes being in the same driver's ed car while a guy who literally answered a question about how to avoid an accident with "uhh.. swerve?" and a girl whose first time behind the wheel she didn't even make it out of the parking lot before running over a squirrel and screaming hysterically.
Yeah, the driver was THAT skilled.
It was a pretty terrifying shuttle ride!
And that horse that came right up behind us, got annoyed and went around? LMAO. It had the right idea getting as far away from that vehicle as possible!
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aw I missed some fun by being a fuddy duddy and not going on the cruise because I had no roomie... heh
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I didn't go on the cruise either but the stories are always entertaining :)
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aw I missed some fun by being a fuddy duddy and not going on the cruise because I had no roomie... heh
If only you'd gone and roomed with Hannah, she would have been spared certain sights she'll probably never be able to get out of her head. ???
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If only you'd gone and roomed with Hannah, she would have been spared certain sights she'll probably never be able to get out of her head. ???
I have freaking never run so fast down a hallway in my life.... haha thank goodness Julia and Steph were there to save me.... Omg, Steph, was it you or Alicia that was like "NICK CARTER NAKED! BUCK NAKED!" trying to get """IT""" out of my head? :D
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It was a pretty terrifying shuttle ride!
And that horse that came right up behind us, got annoyed and went around? LMAO. It had the right idea getting as far away from that vehicle as possible!
My favorite part of the ride will forever and always be "PROTECT YA TINGS!" ;)
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If only you'd gone and roomed with Hannah, she would have been spared certain sights she'll probably never be able to get out of her head. ???
LMFAO OMG I remember that. Poor Hannah, she was traumatized SO badly by her roommate.
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LMFAO OMG I remember that. Poor Hannah, she was traumatized SO badly by her roommate.
You only met her for like a nano second and YOU were traumatized by her too if I recall. ???
Everyone who met that chick was the WHAT THE FRACK IS WRONG WITH THIS GIRL? lol.. Seriously.
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You only met her for like a nano second and YOU were traumatized by her too if I recall. ???
Everyone who met that chick was the WHAT THE FRACK IS WRONG WITH THIS GIRL? lol.. Seriously.
Yes, yes I was lol. That girl frightened me to the extreme.
Lesson of the Day - try like hell to find your own roommate LOL.
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Here is another question...
Have you ever written or read a scene that was stuck in your head for days?
There have been a few, yes. Some funny but some of the creepy ones too and those aren't always fun to have stuck in your head. lol
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Hmm, scenes that have stuck in my head...Brian killing zombie Leighanne in SFTU, Nick in just a towel in Fight Me, MINE in It Stays With You, Nick falling out of the window in Why I'd Do It All Again, Peaches in Cronos Breach, Nick the Muffin Man and there's probably more but I can't think right now.
As for stuff I've written which has stuck in my head, Jordan and his bot flies is hard to forget, lol.
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I just did the accent test and it says I have a normal accent for the UK test and the American one came up saying :-
What American accent do you have?
Your Result: The Northeast
Judging by how you talk you are probably from north Jersey, New York City, Connecticut or Rhode Island. Chances are, if you are from New York City (and not those other places) people would probably be able to tell if they actually heard you speak.
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lmao Steph! And I was born in the Bronx & lived in Jersey most of my life and didn't get that answer. Come to think of it, that's probably the one I should have gotten. Not the inland one.
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I have freaking never run so fast down a hallway in my life.... haha thank goodness Julia and Steph were there to save me.... Omg, Steph, was it you or Alicia that was like "NICK CARTER NAKED! BUCK NAKED!" trying to get """IT""" out of my head? :D
LMFAO That sounds like an Alicia quote to me!
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I didn't see that other question but I guess some scenes that stick in my mind are the bit fly scene in Save a Prayer, the singing scene in Where Do We Go From Here, & there was a scene from Swolken Issues 2 I think where Kevin is with Nick after chemo & it takes place in the bathroom. It was so sad.
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You only met her for like a nano second and YOU were traumatized by her too if I recall. ???
Everyone who met that chick was the WHAT THE FRACK IS WRONG WITH THIS GIRL? lol.. Seriously.
WHAT? what did she do? I missed the conversation about your roomie I'm sure...
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WHAT? what did she do? I missed the conversation about your roomie I'm sure...
Let's just say she isn't modest and fancies being in the buff lol
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O.M.G.... that is CRAZY!! Hannah you poor girl!
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As far as scenes being stuck in my head, as a reader, I tend to remember bits of imagery the best. Nick digging bot flies out of Jordan's brain - pretty sure that visual's never leading LOL. Mare's lobster-clawed priest - he stayed with me (haha). Nick walking around inside that dead woman's body in Hawk and Handsaw... Yeah, I tend to remember the gross stuff, apparently! LOL
When I'm writing, it's the really intense scenes that stay with me. The climactic scenes of both Broken and BMS... the first zombie chapter of Undead... the arrhythmia sequence in CC. If it my makes MY heart race while I'm writing it, it'll stick with me for awhile.
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When writing, do you ever exaggerate certain parts of the Boys? For example, I know we've all exaggerated Nick's blonde moments (so you can't use that as your answer), but like say Brian's accent or Howie's winking? What's your favorite thing to exaggerate of them?
We definitely exaggerate Howie's winking in 00Carter - Dr. Rough has an eye twitch that becomes more pronounced whenever he's stressed out or angry. He's definitely a caricature, so everything about him is exaggerated.
Other than that, I'm not sure... I certainly use their various traits and habits, but I can't think of any that I knowingly exaggerate.
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I don't think this was already asked: (I could have just missed it)
What time of day do you find it easier to write?
A few months ago I might have said at night between 9-11pm but I have found that I am having difficulty writing at night. Now I write between the hours of 11am-3pm, at work. I know it is because my work is sporadic so to keep busy I focus on writing so that I'm looking at my computer. Then I go home and either don't want to be on the computer or I want to not think while on my computer, meaning I want to play games. HEH. I don't want to write something that I want to publish and possibly make money on while at work, it seems wrong to me so my OF isn't moving anywhere at the moment.
I would turn off the internet but I need it to talk to my "editor/friend" and to research. I've tried just not opening the game pages but ultimately I find that I do. I know the first thing I need to do is close those pages and focus on writing.
I want to do more sprints with Saka-Steph at night, it helps. I used to write while Erika was writing too and it helped. HEH.
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I find it easier to write in the evening as the kids are out of my way, but I usually get distracted by the TV. I like writing on the weekend too.
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I usually can write best late late at night or early in the morning because that's when I'm awake due to work. I can also write in the evening as well, it just depends on if I'm in the mood to write or not.
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I usually write best late in the evening, or on my lunch break at work when I force myself to actually write and not waste time on the internet. But in the evening when it's dark and quiet is when I tend to get a lot of writing done. Even on the weekends lately I find that I have a hard time writing during the day. Though, sometimes on weekends if I wake up and the first thing I do is sit down to write, that works out well. I guess because my mind is clear first thing in the morning.
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I write best first thing in the morning or late at night. 2-3 a.m. is the best time because everyone else is asleep and there's nothing on TV, so there's not much to distract me.
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I've read advice saying to write first thing in the morning when your mind is clear but I can't get up early enough to even try it.
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I always write first thing in the morning. As the day goes on, there are more distractions that get in the way.
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I could never get up early enough to write before work, but on weekends or breaks, writing in the morning works out pretty well if I have nowhere to be that day. I find that I have to write BEFORE getting online to check the forums or Twitter or email or anything because otherwise, I get distracted and have a hard time getting back into writing mode. Like Steph said, I have to do it when my mind is clear. I can't write when I know there are other things I should be doing or when I only have a limited time to do it (like when I know I have to get ready to go somewhere or go to bed in an hour).
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Yes that's why writing during the school year is much harder for me. I always feel like there's something else I should be doing and guilt myself out of writing.
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I don't really do anything well at night. I turn into a blob as soon as my dinner is finished and my jammies go on lol
I find the morning much more productive. I get most of my writing done while I'm at work on the weekend.
Come to think of it... I actually write much better on a desktop computer with a real keyboard than I do on my laptop. Does anyone have a certain type of computer, phone, etc setup that they prefer?
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I write my better on my desktop because I'm so used to it. I do type faster on the laptop though lol I could never ever write on this small thing though!
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I prefer to write on my phone, its easy for me and I can take it with me :)
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I have a desktop, a netbook/laptop, and a Kindle Fire, and I prefer doing everything but reading on my desktop. The screen is bigger, the keyboard is easier to type on, and it has a real mouse - that's a big one. I hate, hate, HATE the touchpad mouse. But sometimes I have better luck writing on my netbook because I can take it wherever I want and because I get less distracted on it - I don't have any music or videos or pictures saved on it and only a few websites bookmarked, and it's not as easy to surf the net on it, so I don't do it as often.
I can't imagine writing on my Kindle, let alone my phone! Actually, my phone might be slightly easier because it at least has a keyboard instead of a touch screen, but just texting or tweeting takes long enough that I can't imagine how slow I would be at writing. I'm sure you get used to it, and your phone's probably better than mine, Tracy, but wow... I give you props for that!
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I have a Blackberry Curve. It isn't the best or the most advanced phone, doesn't have a touch screen or anything but it works good for me. I write literally everything on it.
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I write best when I have a day off and I can kind of warm up in the morning, take a break to let it stew, and come back to it around mid-afternoon into the evening. Once I get on a roll, though, I have problems because I forget what time it is. Like last night, I got on a roll writing and suddenly it was 4am and my alarm clock was set for 6. UGH. But other than moments like that, I like the way my writing works! LOL
I write on my lap top, laying in bed. I don't have a desk top, and I can hardly even write a short email on my phone not to mention creative stuff, jeez. lol
And as for my room mate... OY VEY. "Not modest" is probably the understatement of the millennia. I have never wanted to scratch my eyeballs out more. LOL .... I literally could not look at her again after "the incident". I still have nightmares about that chick, holy crap.
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We'll have to make sure no one is roommate-less for the next cruise! That whole roommate match program didn't work out well for anyone I know who did it LOL.
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I have a very specific setup for my computer that I can't live without.
I only have a laptop, I don't have my desktop plugged in, it's just sitting in a closet somewhere. But I've got a real mouse attached to it and have disabled the touchpad because I hate it so much. I also have a second monitor that I use for things like iTunes, twitter (big focus fail right there) and yahoo/msn chatting. When I am writing I try to have the chapter up on my main screen and then have my other distractions up on the second monitor. I usually don't get any writing done unless I have no one to chat to and twitter is dead, but it is nice to have it for when I'm writing and need to watch a video at the same time for reference, or just to have my iTunes up :)
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At work I write on a desktop but at home I only have my laptop. I also have real mouse and have disabled the touchpad, my palm is always hitting it and navigating away from where I want to be if I don't. The screen on my laptop is pretty large so it's not too bad and the keys on the keyboard stick up more than other types. I have to be able to feel the keys, weird and not really a good description but I do.
oooh a second monitor, I do have one sitting here, wonder how to hook it up to my laptop. Can I hook it up to my laptop? It might be the solution to my roving mind at home.
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You definitely can! I have mine hooked up to my laptop. All you have to do is plug the monitor cord into the laptop and then under your display settings choose "extend my desktop" and voila! It's the best. I'd never be able to go back to one monitor.
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I have dual monitors at work and it really is awesome! :)
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I've got my laptop, tablet and phone but use my laptop for writing. I did type up a bit of my story for Revenge of the Slaughtered on my phone as the idea came to me whilst I was getting ready for bed and my phone is next to my bed (I use it as an alarm clock too).
I've got dual monitors in work, which is handy, but at home I've always just got my laptop on my knee, so can't really plug my spare monitor in. If I did that, I'd never write a thing, lol. I sometimes plug my TV into the laptop though.
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I have a question: Have you ever read someone's story because the person was your friend or a reader? What makes you decide to read something?
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When I first came to AC I just read everything because I didn't know anyone. Now that I've been here a while I know the authors that I like and I will probably be more likely to read something of theirs just because I've liked what they've done in the past. I've clicked into my reviewers profiles before and read their stories. That's how I started reading Casual, actually! I figure if they're reviewing my story, which is something I enjoy writing, then it's possible they could be writing something that I'd enjoy reading! But honestly if I'm scrolling through most recent and something looks interesting, I'll read it. I guess I'm saying I'm more likely to take a chance on something from an author I've liked in the past.
On 1DFF I pretty much exclusively read my friends stuff just because I always know it's going to be quality and I can't be bothered to fish through most recent.
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That's how I was when I first started here. I read everything because I liked it. I'm the same way now. I have friends that I don't read, and I have ones that I do...but my personal preference for the person doesn't change my opinion on their writing.
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When I first started to get into fanfic, I just basically read a little of everything to see what was out there that I liked. I don't really go by who writes things. I do that more for books then fanfic. I am much pickier for fanfic as i've said a lot before.
There are fanfic authors I love who I think are incredibly talented, but if it's not a story I am interested, I don't read it. It's never personal or anything, just a matter of taste. I may love you to death but if you are writing a love story, or something I know I won't find interesting, i'm not going to read it.
Just like I don't expect anyone to read my stories if they aren't enjoying them or if it's not something you'd like. One of my biggest peeves is when someone reads your story just in hopes that you'll read theirs and once they figure out you aren't going to, they randomly stop reviewing and reading lol
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I love you guys for coming up with these questions!! Keep them coming, I love this thread!!
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My answer falls along the same lines as everyone else's. I have my favorite authors, and a lot of those people I consider friends, but in most cases, we became friends through reading each other's stories and giving feedback, rather than reading each other's stories because we were friends. Like Steph said, I am more likely to check out stories by friends and favorite authors whose stuff I've enjoyed in the past, but I will read anything that looks interesting to me, no matter who wrote it. Along the same lines as what Mare said, I don't automatically read every story written by my friends or favorite authors. Like Tracy, I have some friends who I respect as fellow writers, but I don't think I've read any of their stories or maybe just one. There are others I read more regularly, but I don't think there's any one writer whose full collection of stories I've read.
I would never expect someone to read any or all of my stories just because they were my friend, either. I've read stories out of a feeling of obligation before, and aside from the summer reading challenge, it takes the fun out of it. i prefer to read what I want to read because I want to read it, not because someone made me feel guilty for not reading it.
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I don't think that has happened to me, but I feel the same. I don't expect anyone to read just because they like me. I want them to read just because they enjoy my work.
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You know that got me realizing that just about every single person I talk to from fanficland I have met because of sending feedback and getting author responses from them and then starting a dialogue as a result. Bonding through reviews lol I just realized that. Back in the day before you could just respond to reviews, we had to actually take the time to email each other. Remember those days?
The importance of responding to people's reviews! LOL
How did you meet most of your fanfic friends?
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I met most of you through reading your stories and then we connected on twitter :)
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When I first joined here, I read loads to stuff, some I didn't even like but left reviews out of politeness. I began to discover the authors I liked through reading everything, and I usually stick with those same authors as long as the story is something I like.
But I will check out new authors, or people I've not read before if I think I might like it, even if I don't know the author.
I wouldn't read something just because I'm friends with someone, and I wouldn't expect a friend to read mine. I know it all comes down to taste and I wouldn't be offended if a friend thought my stuff wasn't for them.
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I will read stories by authors that review my stories. If they are enjoying my story I feel I should check out what they've written to see if I like it too. I have found some great authors and friends that way. I don't expect other authors to do the same though, I don't leave you a review for you to go read mine. Sure I wouldn't mind if you did, I can't deny that but if you don't you don't.
I also scroll the most recent page and will read stories that look interesting no matter who wrote it. I might start a story because a friend wrote it, but if I'm not enjoying I won't continue just because they are my friend, as I expect they wouldn't read mine if they weren't enjoying just because we were friends.
I met most of them through this forum but twitter has helped me get to know some better. I knew Erika from here but we got better acquanted over twitter, same with Saka-Steph and UK Steph. I got to know a lot of authors better when I joined 00Carter too, I hardly knew any authors when I joined collaboration.
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That's so true, Mare. Almost all of my pre-2007 fanfic friends I met by exchanging feedback through email, which led to IM conversations and friendships that went beyond the reader/writer relationship. I started a forum for my site in November 2006, and shortly after that, this forum was created and I joined here, and I've made a lot more friends through both, as well as Twitter. Forums and social media sites make it so much easier to have discussions with groups of people, not just one on one through email or IM, so I've made a lot of connections through mutual friends. And with big BSB events like the cruise and most fans being older and able to travel farther for shows, it's become easier to meet in person and have a friendship outside of the internet as well.
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I got to know a lot of authors better when I joined 00Carter too, I hardly knew any authors when I joined collaboration.
This is very true too. 00Carter is how I got to know you, Mel, Kelly, Dee, and Nijntje. I met Rose the same way, just through Code Blue a year or so earlier. The only co-writers I really knew before that were Sarah, Gozde, and Veronica, from reading each other's stories or hosting them on my site.
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I bonded with Julilly over our quest to stop Tanja from plagiarizing all our stories LOL. That was right around the same time this forum was started. Good times!
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Met most of them through the forum here and through reviews on the site. Either by talking with you guys on here or opening a dialogue through reading/reviewing stories. As I mentioned in my last post that's how I became friends with Darby - because she was reading My Happy Ending and I was reading Casual! And the same with Dani I was reading Unsuspecting and she was reading my stories.
And of course there is twitter where I've been able to talk more with people. I've had a couple of people seek me out on twitter because they liked my stories and have become really good friends with them. I think twitter is really good for that sort of communication.
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Tanja, bringing people together lol
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I bonded with Julilly over our quest to stop Tanja from plagiarizing all our stories LOL. That was right around the same time this forum was started. Good times!
I still have a copy of the monstrous file of evidence that I mailed to the UK as part of that whole thing lol
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Tanja, bringing people together lol
Hell, even a certain person whose username starts with M was on our side with that one, and we hardly agreed on anything! I guess nothing is worse than a plagiarist.
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I still have a copy of the monstrous file of evidence that I mailed to the UK as part of that whole thing lol
I think I have all our emails back and forth about that. That was crazy, but kind of fun, not gonna lie LOL.
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I think I have all our emails back and forth about that. That was crazy, but kind of fun, not gonna lie LOL.
I felt like a lawyer! lol
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I remember that whole Tanja thing, she had taken her stuff to twitter. I think that's when Julie and I started talking actually.
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LOL oh those were the days!
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I got to know people through here, feedback/replies and Twitter. I talk to Lore on AIM sometimes when we can arrange a suitable time that we are both available, but the time difference can be a pain! I would love to meet up with people one day, but unless I win the lottery or something, then maybe Skype or something like that would have to do, lol.
I have met up with Take That fans/fanfic writers in the past and also when I went to the Supernatural convention last year made a couple of friends who I've kept in touch with and met up with not so long ago.
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I wish we could all live in a house in London together for a month like the Boys! This summer would have been a good time to do it... pity we didn't start planning for it sooner! LOL
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That would've been awesome!
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We could have lived in their basement lol
I have only really 'met' three people I knew through this fandom in person. I have facetimed with Mersey lol and will be meeting Carrie (onlyndreams) when she comes out here for a 1D concert next year!
To bad there wasn't a way to FT a group unless there is lol
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I write best when I have a day off and I can kind of warm up in the morning, take a break to let it stew, and come back to it around mid-afternoon into the evening. Once I get on a roll, though, I have problems because I forget what time it is. Like last night, I got on a roll writing and suddenly it was 4am and my alarm clock was set for 6. UGH. But other than moments like that, I like the way my writing works! LOL
I write on my lap top, laying in bed. I don't have a desk top, and I can hardly even write a short email on my phone not to mention creative stuff, jeez. lol
And as for my room mate... OY VEY. "Not modest" is probably the understatement of the millennia. I have never wanted to scratch my eyeballs out more. LOL .... I literally could not look at her again after "the incident". I still have nightmares about that chick, holy crap.
You and Me..... Llama-Sex free roommates!
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I haven't got Facetime on my phone because it's a 3GS, but can you do Skype multi chats? That's another free one :) It would be so amazing to see/hear everyone.
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The majority of the people I have met from the internet are people who have at one point or another read my stories. Some still do.
The weirdest experience for me was when I was standing in line for the Acoustic Concert in '10 in Miami and this lady walked up to me and she was spanish. I couldn't understand a damn thing she was saying but she started hugging me and then I realized she was saying "Karah" but pronouncing it "Car-ruh" when it's Care-ruh. Apparently she read my stories lol
From the people on here.... I've met Hannah in person. I think that's it. I've talked to Tracy on the phone.
Most of those that I've met aren't really writers themselves, but mainly readers.
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I missed out on a lot of questions the past few days. Damn work.
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I met Lisa at the NKOTBSB concert in Liverpool. She was directly in front of me and I recognised her from photos I'd seen of her online somewhere (possibly TDS or Twitter).
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I met Lisa at the NKOTBSB concert in Liverpool. She was directly in front of me and I recognised her from photos I'd seen of her online somewhere (possibly TDS or Twitter).
Ah, you're the AC girl she met! She told me. LOL I feel like she's the one person I haven't met!
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Ah, you're the AC girl she met! She told me. LOL I feel like she's the one person I haven't met!
Yeah, I never expected to bump into anyone from here, so it was nice to actually put a face to the name. The friend who I was with is also a member here, but she never posts anything here, although she does follow a lot of people on Twitter.
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On the cruise, I would see people that I swore looked familiar and we'd talk and we wouldn't know each other, but I could swear I knew them. I guess so many Twitter fans and stuff.
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I have met people through twitter in real life, just the ones from my state. Too bad I can't video chat but that would be an awesome idea one day :) I am going on the next cruise definitely so I hope some of you will want to meet at some point. But it's a big boat so I don't expect to.
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I'll never be able to afford a cruise lol but it'll be nice for you guys to meet up with each other.
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Saka-Steph and I have met once or twice or a half dozen times in real life. We may or may not jet set off to glamorous locales to shop and see concerts. Really wish we got along better though... :P
Karen and I had actually gone on a few trips (even with our families) before we ever had a BSB related trip together. Wacky!
I've actually met quite a few people from AC and from Twitter. Plus I tend to make friends while waiting in lines at shows. It's really random.
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You and Me..... Llama-Sex free roommates!
I got so excited when I read this post I squeed. Just saying. ;D
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Saka-Steph and I have met once or twice or a half dozen times in real life. We may or may not jet set off to glamorous locales to shop and see concerts. Really wish we got along better though... :P
Karen and I had actually gone on a few trips (even with our families) before we ever had a BSB related trip together. Wacky!
I've actually met quite a few people from AC and from Twitter. Plus I tend to make friends while waiting in lines at shows. It's really random.
I felt like you knew half of Canada at the Montreal show. LOL
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Going back to the who I've met, I think everyone I've met pretty much laid claim on me already... lol I've met a lot of readers. I think the weirdest was on the cruise I was walking through the lines waiting to check in and I got accosted like 4 times by people yelling about the Llama. Once was Rachel. But other than that? the other 3 girls? I HAVE NO IDEA EVEN TODAY who they were. One even stopped me and took the llama and took a picture with him. And I have no idea who they were. They all seemed to know me though so wahooo!! LOL
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Saka-Steph and I have met once or twice or a half dozen times in real life. We may or may not jet set off to glamorous locales to shop and see concerts. Really wish we got along better though... :P
I kept thinking we'd done six trips and I tried to remember what the sixth trip was, and when I realized you weren't on it with me I got sad. It just does not feel right lol
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I kept thinking we'd done six trips and I tried to remember what the sixth trip was, and when I realized you weren't on it with me I got sad. It just does not feel right lol
I vote your guys' next trip is to Nashville.
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I vote your guys' next trip is to Nashville.
With the Bacardi tea? I vote yes.
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what does nobody want to come to Colorado? We could get a lodge for a long weekend in the mountains during ski season and let hilarity ensue. I don't ski but I'll totally buy and outfit that makes me look like a ski bunny and sit around sipping hot cocoa.
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what does nobody want to come to Colorado? We could get a lodge for a long weekend in the mountains during ski season and let hilarity ensue. I don't ski but I'll totally buy and outfit that makes me look like a ski bunny and sit around sipping hot cocoa.
Haha that's totally what I did when I went on a ski trip to Quebec in Junior High. We just sat around in the lodge the whole day drinking hot chocolate. It was awesome. If I didn't already live the winter wonderland of Winnipeg, I'd be so down for a ski trip :P Me and snow... we are not friends.
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lol But.. but... I'm moving to Nashville to get away from the snow!! :-[
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I got so excited when I read this post I squeed. Just saying. ;D
LMFAO!!! Oh the door ideas alone....
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lol But.. but... I'm moving to Nashville to get away from the snow!! :-[
babycakes, it snows in Nashville. Not as much, but it does LOL
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I have a question, mon amis!
What are some things that block you from writing? And I don't really mean things like, getting distracted on twitter or forums. I mean, you're sitting there with word open with the intention to write and...nothing comes out.
I know for me, I'll overthink a scene a lot, and then when I sit down to write it, I almost feel as though I won't be able to do it justice when I go to type it all out, so I sit there thinking and thinking and almost psyching myself out of writing it. I almost just have to write without thinking at all to get it out, otherwise I'll end up second guessing myself.
I also tend to have too many projects on the go at once, (whether posted or not) and when I'm working on one, I sort of feel guilty, like I'm neglecting the others. As I result I end up doing one-shots, which are so unproductive, and make it so that I'm neglecting everything else, but at least I get some form of writing done. lol
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Usually what blocks me is that I don't know where to go next or haven't thought out the scene I want to write. Sometimes outlines help but a lot of times it is how to start the scene/chapter that will block me. If I get moving I typically don't have issues, but if I veer off in a strange direction I get myself stuck as to what to do next and sometimes find I have to start over.
Hannah there is no promise of snow in Colorado, if we go early enough in the winter they might be filling the mountain with fake snow. :)
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I have a question, mon amis!
What are some things that block you from writing? And I don't really mean things like, getting distracted on twitter or forums. I mean, you're sitting there with word open with the intention to write and...nothing comes out.
I know for me, I'll overthink a scene a lot, and then when I sit down to write it, I almost feel as though I won't be able to do it justice when I go to type it all out, so I sit there thinking and thinking and almost psyching myself out of writing it. I almost just have to write without thinking at all to get it out, otherwise I'll end up second guessing myself.
I also tend to have too many projects on the go at once, (whether posted or not) and when I'm working on one, I sort of feel guilty, like I'm neglecting the others. As I result I end up doing one-shots, which are so unproductive, and make it so that I'm neglecting everything else, but at least I get some form of writing done. lol
This! Seriously, everything you said is true of me too.
Also, like Lore said, just getting started is usually the hardest part for me. Once I get going, I'm usually fine, but sometimes I get stuck just figuring out how to start a chapter or scene.
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What blocks me from writing?
Honestly, for the longest time.... (since I write mainly Nick romance), Lauren would block me. LMAO! That sounds bad. It's just I guess I'm writing this fictional world and real life pops up and I just lose the urge to write. But after meeting her on the cruise, talking to her and thanks to Twitter and some discussions we've had, it doesn't do that anymore.
What blocks me now it seems is real life... being sick and the fact that when I'm not at work, all I really want to do is sleep. And the migraines I've been having the past few months have gotten worse so when I do have time to write or want to write, they always seem to get in the way.
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What blocks me from writing. That would have to be knowing how to start the next chapter or knowing where it's going. I'll think about it for a while, sitting here with a word doc open and getting nothing done. But once I know where it's going, I'm focused.
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What blocks me from writing? Usually work. If I'm working doubles mostly one week, I'm definitely not gonna get writing done. I work 14 hour days and try to make time but sometimes that is difficult. That's why I've only had time to write one shots and challenges lately.
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Usually what blocks me from writing is my mood. I can't write if I'm not having a good day or if i'm overly stressed out about something. I need a clear mind. Also if im not feeling well. If my blood sugar drops, I cant do diddly. I can sit for hours with Word opened and not write one word, but once I get going, I'll keep the flow throughout.
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Usually I get blocked if I have a lot of personal issues going on in my life. My mind is SO focused on those, that I usually can't shut it down enough to let myself go into my writing. If it's normal, I can write my stress out in writing. But in those times where it's just piled on, I tend to not write much at all.
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Same here; I write best when I am fed, energized, feeling good, and have nothing bothering me. Any other time, I have to put a lot more effort into focusing on writing and blocking everything else, and usually it just doesn't happen. This is why I would never make it as a career writer; I don't have the discipline to make myself do it when I don't feel like it.
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To write I need to be rested, a satisfied stomach and to be in a good mood. I also need to be free of distractions, so I can get my ideas out better. I hardly listen to music while I'm writing.
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babycakes, it snows in Nashville. Not as much, but it does LOL
LOL Yeah but I looked up the last few years of N'villes winters and their total snow accumulation for a whole year we got in like a day here last year and that was a really mild winter... lmao ;D I'm kinda pumped about that. lol
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I get writers block when I have a scene in mind that is SO FAR REMOVED from the current plot that I need to figure out how to connect A to B in a way that's not like "okay so this happened get over it" feeling. Sometimes I accidentally write myself into these "uhh now what?" type moments, and then I have to rethink situations. Or I'll come up with the perfect solution to something and I work towards it for a long time, then BOOM something comes up that I have to go with but I need to connect the two pieces together and it's like UHHHHH... now what? lol
Personally, I write best when I'm stressed. Some of my best writing in the world was written while my mom was sick and I was in the middle of my most stressful situation I've ever been in. I think because I use my writing to escape stuff, it comes easiest when I'm upset because that's when I want to escape the most. When I'm doing really good and I'm all bubbly, cheerful, and happy, I tend to almost stop writing for a time. The only exception being stress from work/school, cos then I focus on those things instead of writing. Like this past semester was sOOOOO busy but I buried myself in the school work and didn't make time for writing at all. If that makes sense? Anyways.. lol
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LMFAO!!! Oh the door ideas alone....
...Dude the door would kick SERIOUS butt. :o
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Hannah, I think that makes sense. I usually associate stress with being busy, and I'm not good at writing when I'm busy because even if I do have time, I have this guilt complex about feeling like I should be using that time for something else. But when there are other things going on in your life that you can't do anything about, writing can be a great escape. It's definitely cathartic for me, and I always feel better after I've written something I'm happy with.
I have the same problem with always thinking ahead to scenes that are so far off from what I'm writing, and then when I finally work up to that point, I sometimes have the same problem Steph brought up, where I've thought through it so many times in my head that I psych myself out and feel like I can't live up the scene I've created in my head with my writing. When it does turn out as well or better than what was in my head, though, it's pure magic.
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I have another question...
How many projects do you work on at a time?
Are you a one story at a time kind of person or do you have a few?
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I have another question...
How many projects do you work on at a time?
Are you a one story at a time kind of person or do you have a few?
As many of you know, I have Writing ADD, lol. I have to write in specific genres for my inspiration to work well and the writing to come up to par with what I expect it to be. My best stories have a blend of a bunch of genres, which is why I can focus on them exclusively. But my more focused genre stories kind of get piled into a collection of stuff to work on on a rainy day. Consequently, I have a lot of open stuff, but only one project that I really focus on.
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I have a few I'm working on right now. I have a Nick one-shot I'm almost finished with, I have From This Moment on which I have no inspiration to write it right now, Forces of Nature is on hiatus for the same reason, and then Weird World. So 4 stories. Plus I am still working on the college idea. I got the prologue started, just haven't finished it yet. There are several other ideas I have in my head, so I have a bad case of ADD with that lol
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Hannah, I think that makes sense. I usually associate stress with being busy, and I'm not good at writing when I'm busy because even if I do have time, I have this guilt complex about feeling like I should be using that time for something else. But when there are other things going on in your life that you can't do anything about, writing can be a great escape. It's definitely cathartic for me, and I always feel better after I've written something I'm happy with.
I have the same problem with always thinking ahead to scenes that are so far off from what I'm writing, and then when I finally work up to that point, I sometimes have the same problem Steph brought up, where I've thought through it so many times in my head that I psych myself out and feel like I can't live up the scene I've created in my head with my writing. When it does turn out as well or better than what was in my head, though, it's pure magic.
I agree with all of this, but I agree so much with the part that I've bolded. Some of the scenes that I've written out (after having thought about them forever) have turned out so well that I won't ever forget exactly what part of the story they're in and if I ever feel like going back to read something old of mine, those are the scenes I go back to. Because I'm the most proud of them, and they boost my confidence in my writing. I think it's the reason that I like to sit on things for so long as well. So that I have that opportunity to play with those pivotal scenes and make them exactly how I want them. I notice that a lot my favourite things I've written, are things that I sat on and edited a lot before posting.
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I have another question...
How many projects do you work on at a time?
Are you a one story at a time kind of person or do you have a few?
I tried to force myself to be a one project person, and I failed hardcore. I have tons of projects on the go. My main story is supposed to be Running Up That Hill, but it so isn't, it's this other story I'm working on that's nearly complete! Ugh. Though technically I still have only one in progress story posted! lol I just skirt my own rule of not posting anything else that's in progress by writing endless amounts of one-shots. Fail.
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I usually have multiple projects going at once. Currently they aren't all fanfiction though. I am rewriting Chronos Project, working on another original OF, outlining another OF and working on Severed Identities....
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I agree with all of this, but I agree so much with the part that I've bolded. Some of the scenes that I've written out (after having thought about them forever) have turned out so well that I won't ever forget exactly what part of the story they're in and if I ever feel like going back to read something old of mine, those are the scenes I go back to. Because I'm the most proud of them, and they boost my confidence in my writing. I think it's the reason that I like to sit on things for so long as well. So that I have that opportunity to play with those pivotal scenes and make them exactly how I want them. I notice that a lot my favourite things I've written, are things that I sat on and edited a lot before posting.
I'm the same way. If I can remember what chapter a certain part is in, it's usually one of those critical parts that I thought and thought and thought about, finally got to write, and was happy with.
So, next logical question for everyone: What are some of those pivotal parts you've written that you're most proud of?
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I have another question...
How many projects do you work on at a time?
Are you a one story at a time kind of person or do you have a few?
My ideal writing situation is one main story that I'm really into and one back-up story or side project that I can fall back on when I need a break from the main one.
That said, I've accumulated way too many unfinished projects! Right now my main story is Secrets of the Heart, which I had only written sporadically for 3 1/2 years before finally deciding to try to finish this summer. That's the one I've been writing on or trying to write on every day. Second on the writing priority list would be Song for the Undead - collaborations make good side projects because you can write on them when it's your turn to write and neglect them when it's not. After that, I don't have any certain order, but I have two in-progress novels, one serious (Guilty Roads) and one not (the Harry Potter crossover). Then there's the two round robins, which I'll write something for when I have an idea, and then there's all the unfinished stuff that's way, way back on the back burner - 00Carter, Code Blue, Not Another Teenybopper Fanfic, Footprints, and the Broken OF novel. By my count, that's 11 projects, and those are only the ones that are posted. I also have a folder called "Story Starts" of ideas that I've dabbled with writing, and there are another 8 files saved in that. I don't really count those because I haven't posted them so there's no accountability for them, but still... way too many projects!!
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I really don't wanna answer the question of how many current projects I have LMAO.
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^That's why I just said I had a lot, because if I took the time to list everything... it would be a very long post lol
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I typically do one story at a time.
Since February, Lisa and I have been writing the joint story together and it's so hard to do another one at the same time. I just don't have the concentration for it.
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^That's why I just said I had a lot, because if I took the time to list everything... it would be a very long post lol
LOL. I know right?
Currently...
"Walked Out Of My Dreams"
"Divine Intervention"
"Here We Stand"
"Song For The Undead"
And an original fiction I started in January but didn't post here.
Random shit...basical ly to write when I can't write anything else...
"1000 Ways To Kill Nick Carter"
"Revenge of the Slaughtered"
On the WAY back burner...
"Born To Be"
"00Carter"
"Code Blue"
Ten. Yikes LOL. I've never been able to do one story at a time though. I always need something to flit to when my half of the Siamuse is blocked on something. Really though, not counting the round robins, I only have five projects I'm actually actively working on at the moment.
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oh we are listing what we are working on? LOL
Severed Identities
Unwinding Truth
Empty
Chronos Project rewrite to OF
Untitled YA OF
Wulf's Bane rewrite to OF
and back burner:
DOV: Antigone
00Carter
Apollo's Curse
I was going to say not as many as Rose but it's only one less so ....
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On average, how long does it take you guys to finish a story? (A novel, not a one-shot.)
Part of my problem is that I write these epically long stories that take YEARS to finish, and I think that's why I've accumulated so many projects. It's hard to work on one thing exclusively for that long. And then I finish one of those big stories and have all these ideas I've collected in the meantime and can't decide which one to start next, and that's when the WADD flares up.
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I don't really know what I'm most proud of honestly. I'm proud of all my work but I guess maybe FYO cause it was my first step out of the romance box. Since then I've really branched out with my writing.
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I think they normally take me anywhere from 3 months to just under a year or maybe a year if I work on them straight and don't take year long breaks.
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What are some of those pivotal parts you've written that you're most proud of?
The chapter "The Very Hungry Catepillar" of Boy in the Cardboard Box (http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10427&textsize=0&chapter=16)
Grad Night in Borrowed Time (http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10947&chapter=38)
Nick finding out about Amanda in Something Beautiful (http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10154&chapter=53)
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I typically do one story at a time.
Since February, Lisa and I have been writing the joint story together and it's so hard to do another one at the same time. I just don't have the concentration for it.
I don't have the concentration for it either, and yet this massive list happens. How do you make yourself work on one at a time? What do you do with ideas that come in for new stories while you're working on your current ones?
Because seriously I have...
Running Up That Hill
Where You Are
Suddenly I'm All Alone
and the un-posted ones..
Thesis of a Cruel Angel
Two Worlds Apart
Faithfully
Forever Like This
Between the Lines of Reason
Conspiracy Theories
So Typically Me
Ew that's a lot, all with varying degrees of completeness. Some of those un-posted side projects will probably get finished before the posted ones do lol.
For me, to finish a story it really varies. I can take forever or I can finish them pretty quickly. I go on spurts with updates as I'm sure some of you have noticed with Running Up That Hill. I will go for months without updating and then do a few chapters really quickly. But sometimes I get those stories that write themselves and I can do an entire novel in a month or two. My novel length stories usually run about 25 chapters long, though.
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On average, how long does it take you guys to finish a story? (A novel, not a one-shot.)
2-3 months. Less if it's something I'm focusing on.
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So, next logical question for everyone: What are some of those pivotal parts you've written that you're most proud of?
Nick and Ashleigh meeting up for dinner again in In Pieces after having not seen each other for eight years: http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=8805&chapter=11
Nick's proposal to her in the sequel: http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=8870&chapter=25
Brian's intervention in Nick's Dirty Kicks: http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10893&chapter=2
*sings* One of these things is not like the other...
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On average, how long does it take you guys to finish a story? (A novel, not a one-shot.)
Part of my problem is that I write these epically long stories that take YEARS to finish, and I think that's why I've accumulated so many projects. It's hard to work on one thing exclusively for that long. And then I finish one of those big stories and have all these ideas I've collected in the meantime and can't decide which one to start next, and that's when the WADD flares up.
Depends on how focused I am on it. Like "Here We Stand" is a novella, but I'm focused on it so it shouldn't take long, maybe a month, max. "Walked Out Of My Dreams" is also a novella (just 20 chapters instead of ten lol) but I haven't focused on it so it's taken me longer. RMTW I was definitely focused in on and even with blocks it only took me a year, JAD took me six months. So yeah, it's very dependent on my focus.
So, next logical question for everyone: What are some of those pivotal parts you've written that you're most proud of?
RMTW I'm rather proud of. I really am happy with how I wrote his lapses and his progression. I feel like my best writing shines in that story thus far. I think it comes off realistically, and I also am proud of writing his relationship with each of the Boys. I kept it different enough but made sure no one was forgotten or overshadowed.
I'm also proud of Undead, but not for the gore believe it or not LOL. It's the first time in awhile that I've written romance as a subplot, which I feel is the best use for romance. But that's another tangent. I've developed the story of Nick and Riley and their relationship in the face of an apocalyptic world, and I think their scenes are pretty good. It's also the first sex scene I've written in years. It tested me in ways I wasn't thinking of when I first signed on to do a zombie fic with my ZDR lol.
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LOL I'm so too lazy to go pull specific scenes with links. :P
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I think Curtain Call is the only novel under 100 chapters that I've finished in nine years, and that was still 90 chapters LOL. Secrets of the Heart is only going to be 25 chapters max, and I kind of can't believe it because it's been so long since I've written such a normal-lengthed story! LOL I'm glad to know it's still possible!
My goal is to pare my list back to just one main project of my own before I post any new stories. The collabs and round robins and stuff make good side projects because they don't usually take up a lot of my time, but I'm not good at balancing more than one story on my own. I don't see anything wrong with playing around with other ideas when inspiration strikes, but I just need to have more self control when it comes to keeping them to myself. Steph, I like your rule of only posting one in-progress story at a time.
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Nick and Ashleigh meeting up for dinner again in In Pieces after having not seen each other for eight years: http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=8805&chapter=11
Nick's proposal to her in the sequel: http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=8870&chapter=25
Brian's intervention in Nick's Dirty Kicks: http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10893&chapter=2
*sings* One of these things is not like the other...
LMAO That Nick's Dirty Kicks story was so amazingly epic!
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LOL I like Steph's rule too. I'm just unable to put it into practice with FF. OF I apparently have no problem with since it's ten chapters in and sitting on my computer unread by anyone but myself.
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LMAO That Nick's Dirty Kicks story was so amazingly epic!
LMAO thanks.
And yeah, the posting one story at a time (per site, apparently) rule does sort of work. It does make the guilt factor to work on those stories stronger if nothing else, which can be a good and bad thing.
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These are the chapters that come to mind when I think of pivotal parts I've written.
Chapter 106 of Broken - the choppage chapter
I don't think my writing is anything spectacular in this chapter, but I've always remembered the chapter number because it was such a pivotal moment in the story, and I put so much pressure on myself leading up to it that actually writing it was kind of intense.
Chapter 196 of By My Side - the car accident aftermath
I remember planning this part in the shower of my college dorm while I was still writing Broken, and it took me four years to actually get to the point where I could write it. Four years is a LONG time to have this sequence playing in my head LOL. This is one part that actually turned out as good or better than it was in my head. It's over the top and a little cheesy at times (*cough*Nickelback*cough*), but that's BMS for ya LOL. I still like it. Writing it was an adrenaline rush, and reading it still gives me that rush.
Chapter 31 of Song for the Undead - the first zombie scene
This was another part I felt a lot of pressure to deliver on because it was the first zombie part in a story that we had not promoted as a zombie story. It had a different title, and no one knew all the dead people were going to become undead. So I felt like that first scene of them waking up as zombies needed to be powerful. Even though I love horror, I really hadn't written a lot of true horror before this story, so I wasn't sure what I was capable of. I was/am really proud of how this chapter turned out.
Chapter 88 of Curtain Call
The reason I started telling CC in Cary's POV was because I didn't think it was possible to do what I did in this chapter. Then I read a book that changed my mind, and I decided to challenge myself with the task of doing exactly what I thought I wouldn't be able to do. So I did. And it turned out pretty much the way I was hoping it would.
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LOL I like Steph's rule too. I'm just unable to put it into practice with FF. OF I apparently have no problem with since it's ten chapters in and sitting on my computer unread by anyone but myself.
I feel like it's easier to keep OF to yourself because there's not as much of an audience for OF here. What makes posting in-progress fanfics so tempting is knowing you're going to get feedback, which helps motivate you to finish them. That's my problem, anyway LOL.
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If we are talking about specific scenes, I would say the scene where Nick finds Lauren's body by tripping over it in the dark was one in FYO.
When I Grow Up: the scene where Nick and Kevin are in the car, Nick attempts to drive even though he doesn't know how sticks out as a good comedy one. That and where Brian finds out Leighanne cheated on him with future Nick.
The Howie story I posted yesterday was something I am proud of as well. Writing a Howie story and in 1st person was difficult for me. That's why I love doing the challenges because it helps me grow as a writer :)
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I loved that FYO scene with Nick finding Lauren dead, Tracy!
And Rose, only you could write develop such a sweet love story in the midst of a zombie apocalypse! LOL
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Julie, I feel your zombie scene in Undead was the best one of the story LOL. It's definitely pivotal and you delivered :)
I loved that FYO scene with Nick finding Lauren dead, Tracy!
And Rose, only you could write develop such a sweet love story in the midst of a zombie apocalypse! LOL
LOL thanks. You know me, I can't have fluff unless it's surrounded by gore or angst!
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Aw thanks Julie. That was one of my favorite chapters because it was really suspenseful. I also enjoyed the boys playing detectives lol
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Julie, I feel your zombie scene in Undead was the best one of the story LOL. It's definitely pivotal and you delivered :)
LOL thanks. You know me, I can't have fluff unless it's surrounded by gore or angst!
Ditto - that's why we make such a great team! And thanks! :)
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Ditto - that's why we make such a great team! And thanks! :)
Yep! :)
I still say we need a zombie smiley lol.
(http://thedarksidebsb.com/Smileys/default/nobrainzombis.gif)
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Nick finding out about Amanda in Something Beautiful (http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10154&chapter=53)
This was a great scene. I remember being on the edge of my seat waiting for that moment, and you definitely delivered!
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Yep! :)
I still say we need a zombie smiley lol.
(http://thedarksidebsb.com/Smileys/default/nobrainzombis.gif)
OMG Love it! You have that on TDS? Amazing! Perks of being a mod! LOL
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OMG Love it! You have that on TDS? Amazing! Perks of being a mod! LOL
Yep, I had my co-mod put it in since she's better at the tech stuff LOL. Zombie smileys are love. *goes to google more*
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Nick finding out about Amanda in Something Beautiful (http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10154&chapter=53)
That was an amazing scene. My heart broke for him.
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The one scene I have read that I won't forget is Brian carving MINE into Nick. That story was just amazing and if anyone asks me to recommend one I will tell them to read it. I've made friends on twitter by talking about fanfiction from a reader's perspective. There's a lot of girls that read and I love having discussions.
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And this is why I have focusing issues. Damn google.
(http://www.gomotes.com/emoticon/zombiechase.gif)
(http://www.smileydesign.net/smileys/zombie06.gif)
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The MINE thing is definitely one of the more epic moments in BSB fanfic history! LOL
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I love MINE lmao. Mare may not kill usually but she tortures perfectly.
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Torture is worse anyway. Death is a relief after torture LOL.
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This was a great scene. I remember being on the edge of my seat waiting for that moment, and you definitely delivered!
That was an amazing scene. My heart broke for him.
Thanks guys... It was probably one of the hardest to write because I didn't wanna break up my little trio! Plus it was really hard to write Nick being so harsh as he was to her. Because I'd grown more attached to Amanda as I wrote the story than I thought I would be by that time, it just hurt to hurt her like that. LOL
Here's a question:
Do you guys think of your original characters as real people?
Do you ever hesitate to do things to the characters because of how attached you are to them?
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Here's a question:
Do you guys think of your original characters as real people?
Do you ever hesitate to do things to the characters because of how attached you are to them?
I do in terms of the story as I write it. It's part of why I'm so anal about characters, their motivations, their actions. Everything needs to match up in that sense or I will tell you about it if you want concrit lol. I don't ever write characters actions to make the story go a certain way. In fact I'll write out something and there's been times where the story takes a turn I didn't see coming because they did something IN character and not just what I had in mind. The characters write the story, in my mind. It's their story, not mine, I'm just the one putting it out there for them.
I really don't hesitate to do things to characters LMAO. I put mine through the ringer half the time. But that's because I like seeing how the characters grow and change because of what happens to them.
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In fact I'll write out something and there's been times where the story takes a turn I didn't see coming because they did something IN character and not just what I had in mind. The characters write the story, in my mind.
I really don't hesitate to do things to characters LMAO. I put mine through the ringer half the time. But that's because I like seeing how the characters grow and change because of what happens to them.
I've had that happen, too, where characters kind of take over. I like seeing how characters change and grow through hardship.
Sometimes I can't help but feel a bit like how God must feel seeing us go through stuff... Not to go all "uber Christian Brian" on y'all but I mean like we put the characters through crap because it helps them in the end, because the bigger picture that we see is how the whole story goes and honestly, I feel closer to God writing with that in mind than I do in any church service.
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MINE is just one of those moments where I actually reread it a few times going WTF just happened? Did I really read this?
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Do you guys think of your original characters as real people?
Do you ever hesitate to do things to the characters because of how attached you are to them?
I don't think of them as real people in the literal sense, but when I can picture them clearly in my head, imagine their body language and how they would say things, come up with their back story without a lot of thinking, and know how they would think and react in any situation, that's when they really come to life on the page for me. The most vivid character I've created that was totally original is Claire in Broken/BMS. I could always see Claire so clearly in my head, and I knew how she would act in any situation I put her in, and I knew when I was forcing her to act differently than she naturally would in order to suit the story I wanted to tell, and unfortunately, that hurt her character.
As a writer, I am a sadist and take great pleasure in hurting my characters. The more I care about them, the more I enjoy hurting them. So for me, there's no such thing as getting too attached to do things to them. It's when I'm not attached that I'm just like, "Eh, why bother?" LOL
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I knew when I was forcing her to act differently than she naturally would in order to suit the story I wanted to tell, and unfortunately, that hurt her character.
That's always been a petpeeve of mine in stories - be they books, TV shows, or movies - when the character is untrue to themselves. It's the reason why most TV show pilots piss me off.
For example, The Big Bang Theory pilot episode.... the character Sheldon is well developed to be uninterested in women later in the series, something that starts pretty early on. Like in Episode 2. The opening scene for The BBT takes place with Sheldon and Leonard donating sperm at a sperm bank and Sheldon says something about being uncomfortable making the donation and Leonard says to him "you're practically a pro at this" and then later in the episode a comment is made about Sheldon having problems picking up women, but in a way that makes it sound like he's actually tried to. THAT IS SOOOO OUT OF CHARACTER. I literally can't stand the pilot for BBT because of it!!! LOL
Wow. I didn't know I was quite that irritated by it. :::crawls off soap box::::
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I've had that happen, too, where characters kind of take over. I like seeing how characters change and grow through hardship.
Sometimes I can't help but feel a bit like how God must feel seeing us go through stuff... Not to go all "uber Christian Brian" on y'all but I mean like we put the characters through crap because it helps them in the end, because the bigger picture that we see is how the whole story goes and honestly, I feel closer to God writing with that in mind than I do in any church service.
That's a good point about God. We're all sort of the gods of our own stories. I feel that way when I'm struggling with whether to guide my characters in the direction I want them to take to suit my plans or let them have free will and choose their own direction.
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That's always been a petpeeve of mine in stories - be they books, TV shows, or movies - when the character is untrue to themselves. It's the reason why most TV show pilots piss me off.
For example, The Big Bang Theory pilot episode.... the character Sheldon is well developed to be uninterested in women later in the series, something that starts pretty early on. Like in Episode 2. The opening scene for The BBT takes place with Sheldon and Leonard donating sperm at a sperm bank and Sheldon says something about being uncomfortable making the donation and Leonard says to him "you're practically a pro at this" and then later in the episode a comment is made about Sheldon having problems picking up women, but in a way that makes it sound like he's actually tried to. THAT IS SOOOO OUT OF CHARACTER. I literally can't stand the pilot for BBT because of it!!! LOL
Wow. I didn't know I was quite that irritated by it. :::crawls off soap box::::
Pilots can be so awkward that way sometimes. You can tell the writers didn't have a clear picture of where the character was going at that point.
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That's a good point about God. We're all sort of the gods of our own stories. I feel that way when I'm struggling with whether to guide my characters in the direction I want them to take to suit my plans or let them have free will and choose their own direction.
I definitely felt "godlike" writing the end of Something Beautiful. I so, so, so, sooo badly wanted to make it end differently. I even went to the point of writing an alternate ending but it felt so fake and so contrived that I couldn't bring myself to even entertain the idea for more than a couple minutes. It felt a bit desperate, like I was actually losing something by letting the story play out the way it had to.
Of course if I delve into my own psychology with the personal purpose the story served, it makes total sense why I had that moment of hesitation. And why it couldn't end any other way.
I'm really having fun analyzing every aspect of SB and my psychology in it as I'm working on the OF. I'm amazed how much I'm learning about myself through it.
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Why do you guys start with the bazillion questions when I am on my iPod and can't type all the answers without making a ton of mistakes? I'm going to wait to answer these until I am on my desktop. But thanks for the MINE mentions!! I am pretty sure that goes into my list of pivotal scenes lol
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LOL We were chatty in here last night!
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Yes you were but at least it wasn't an off topic chatty lol
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I love when everybody gets into a good chat, its so much more fun with a bunch of people.
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Yes, I wish everyone who just came to lurk would answer these questions as well. It would be nice to hear some other people's answers too!
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I'm like Julie in that I don't see them as real in the literal sense but I do have a few characters that have turned the plot of the story because the way the plot was going wouldn't have fit their personalities. Eve and Corin from Wulf's Bane are my two favorite examples of this. Even though the story is still incomplete those two change the story several times to fit their motivations. Eve's little group of people was supposed to join up with Nick's group of people when they ran into each other, but Eve didn't like Rose soooo there went that.
I've hesitated to do things to characters because of how attached I get to them but it doesn't always stop me from doing it. Plot points have changed because of the flow of the story so killing off a character doesn't come to pass because it just doesn't work to kill them, not because I got too attached.
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That's a good point about God. We're all sort of the gods of our own stories. I feel that way when I'm struggling with whether to guide my characters in the direction I want them to take to suit my plans or let them have free will and choose their own direction.
I agree, that's a great analogy. There's some things I throw at them cause I knew at the get go that would be their "fate". But then on other things they have their free will which changes up my plans a bit, but not always the destination, just the journey there typically. Like in RMTW, Nick was NOT supposed to tell Kevin as early as he did. But as I wrote that chapter, I knew Nick not telling Kevin wouldn't work. It was too out of character and Nick made that choice for me lol.
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Lots of pages to catch up on!
The stories I have in progress are Maybe Tomorrow and Unwinding Truth, both of which I need to work on.
I can't concentrate on lots at a time, but don't mind the occasional one shot like the challenge stories or the round robins.
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Have you guys ever had a story, or a chapter that seemed to have been purely inspired by a song that comes on randomly?
"Safe and Sound" from the Hunger Games soundtrack came on my computer, and it's pretty much fueled an entire Undead chapter. I feel like the entire chapter embraces that song and I can see the scenes in my head like a movie going to that song like a soundtrack.
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I have a song that inspires me to write a particular character every time I hear it. Planet Hell by Nightwish gets me in the mood to write Corin.
I can't think of any other songs off the top of my head that are like that for me, with stories, but I do know what you mean. Safe and Sound is on my list of songs to get because of the 'mood' of that song.
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Songs do nothing for me and my inspiration. I am the poorest excuse of a professional musician ever! lol
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Fail Mare, fail LOL
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I agree, that's a great analogy. There's some things I throw at them cause I knew at the get go that would be their "fate". But then on other things they have their free will which changes up my plans a bit, but not always the destination, just the journey there typically. Like in RMTW, Nick was NOT supposed to tell Kevin as early as he did. But as I wrote that chapter, I knew Nick not telling Kevin wouldn't work. It was too out of character and Nick made that choice for me lol.
That's exactly how I went about writing Curtain Call. I played God and decided on the things that were outside my characters' control, but I let them make their own decisions about things they could control and went with what they decided, even if it wasn't what I would have chosen for them. It worked out well that way. Like you said, we can decide their fate, but not always the journey it will take to get them there.
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Have you guys ever had a story, or a chapter that seemed to have been purely inspired by a song that comes on randomly?
"Safe and Sound" from the Hunger Games soundtrack came on my computer, and it's pretty much fueled an entire Undead chapter. I feel like the entire chapter embraces that song and I can see the scenes in my head like a movie going to that song like a soundtrack.
I don't know about randomly, but there are definitely some songs that I've listened to and thought, "Wow, I have to put this in a story." The song "Annie" by James Blunt inspired my short story "The World Will Know Your Name." "Siberia" inspired a certain scene in BMS. "Taking Over Me" by Evanescence has inspired a couple of story ideas I have yet to write.
I used "Just Want You to Know" in the beginning of Curtain Call, for no other reason than that I needed a BSB song that would work musically for what I was imagining, and that one did. But the more I listened to the lyrics as I was writing that story, the more I realized that it fit it perfectly, like I'd planned it that way all along. It's weird when that happens too.
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Usually I don't listen to music or anything whilst writing, but when Muse released their Resistance CD a couple of years ago, the song Resistance inspired me to write a short story (which I called Resistance and it was a Take That story).
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Fail Mare, fail LOL
I know! I don't have one single song on my iPod even lol :(
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I don't know about randomly, but there are definitely some songs that I've listened to and thought, "Wow, I have to put this in a story." The song "Annie" by James Blunt inspired my short story "The World Will Know Your Name." "Siberia" inspired a certain scene in BMS. "Taking Over Me" by Evanescence has inspired a couple of story ideas I have yet to write.
I used "Just Want You to Know" in the beginning of Curtain Call, for no other reason than that I needed a BSB song that would work musically for what I was imagining, and that one did. But the more I listened to the lyrics as I was writing that story, the more I realized that it fit it perfectly, like I'd planned it that way all along. It's weird when that happens too.
You didn't plan JWYTK? I thought you did lol. I really like how you bookended it too, having it in the beginning and at the end. I feel like Curtain Call almost personifies that song. I've had that happen, where I use a song casually and it turns out it fits better than I ever planned.
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You didn't plan JWYTK? I thought you did lol. I really like how you bookended it too, having it in the beginning and at the end. I feel like Curtain Call almost personifies that song. I've had that happen, where I use a song casually and it turns out it fits better than I ever planned.
Lyric-wise, no! I just picked it for the beginning because it fit what I was going for - a lesser-known BSB single that fit the Idol theme and could be adapted musically the way Cary did. It was only later that I realized how well the lyrics really fit, and that's why I used it again at the end, like I'd planned it that way all along LOL. It's given me a greater appreciation for that song, because aside from the epic Sphynkter video, JWYTK never did much for me.
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Lyric-wise, no! I just picked it for the beginning because it fit what I was going for - a lesser-known BSB single that fit the Idol theme and could be adapted musically the way Cary did. It was only later that I realized how well the lyrics really fit, and that's why I used it again at the end, like I'd planned it that way all along LOL. It's given me a greater appreciation for that song, because aside from the epic Sphynkter video, JWYTK never did much for me.
I agree about it not doing much, though the video is epic lmao. That was definitely a perfect song choice for Cary though. It does look like you planned it out neatly LOL.
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Damn, that song makes me sad now! LOL I just played it and :(...
Does anyone else do that? Ruin songs by using them in stories? LOL I don't really mean "ruin," but I find that after I've used a song in a story or read a story in which a certain song played a big part, I can't ever listen to that song again without thinking about that story. Sometimes it's a good thing, and sometimes it's not.
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^ nope! lol
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I have another question...
How many projects do you work on at a time?
Are you a one story at a time kind of person or do you have a few?
I used to always have two or three stories going at once until I started to find myself neglecting them. Now, i'll only ever write on one story at a time. I would rather do that and sometimes go for a stretch without updating then posting a ton of stories that are in danger of never being finished. As a reader, I hate when that happens so I make an extra conscience effort not to do it to my readers.
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That's one thing I'm conscious of now. I may take time, but these days I don't post anything that I'm not sure I'll follow through on. Like I have starts for other fics in folders, but I only post stuff I really feel a solid inspiration for and have outlined and a couple chapters for. Which, WOOMD, Divine Intervention, and HWS all had in common.
Cause I never want to abandon a story again.
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I'm the same way. If I can remember what chapter a certain part is in, it's usually one of those critical parts that I thought and thought and thought about, finally got to write, and was happy with.
So, next logical question for everyone: What are some of those pivotal parts you've written that you're most proud of?
As I mentioned before, I think the scene where we finally learn how Nick got that MINE carved into his skin in It Stays was a scene I was really proud of and that was really hard to write!
Nick's birthday chapter in Seasons of Change because it was totally personal to me and actually happened in my real life.
The reveal scene in Shadow Woods when Kevin explains to Nick what the heck was going on.
Having other Nick kill Nick was another one lol for obvious reasons.
I think for all four of those, I couldn't wait to get to the climax and write it out. LOL
I actually think I have one of those moments in every story i've written. A certain scene I can't wait to write and am really proud of, as we all should have in each of our stories, but those are the four that most stick out in my mind.
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On average, how long does it take you guys to finish a story? (A novel, not a one-shot.)
A novel usually takes me anywhere from two to 6 months to finish. I generally don't write really long novels though. Usually they range anywhere from 20 - 50 chapters max.
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Here's a question:
Do you guys think of your original characters as real people?
Do you ever hesitate to do things to the characters because of how attached you are to them?
I hope mine aren't because most of my original characters are freaking psycho! LOL
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I think I am all caught up now, although I feel like I missed one somewhere? lol
Here's another question, although I should wait until tomorrow just in case it suddenly gets quiet in here.
When you are writing a story, do you ever intend it to not go past a certain amount of chapters? Or what makes you decide to make something really long or really short?
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When you are writing a story, do you ever intend it to not go past a certain amount of chapters? Or what makes you decide to make something really long or really short?
Usually I have an amount in mind. Though I'm flexible. HWS I planned to do ten chapters though I think that might be 11 as I transition to them going to London. RMTW I didn't have a number attached, but I knew it'd be over thirty chapters based on the plot alone. Undead - I don't think we knew for awhile how long it would be till the last few months when we finally outlined the rest of it. We just knew it'd be lengthy. So sometimes I have a specific number, and other times I just have a general idea.
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I never put limits on myself, nor do I set out to make a story a certain length. However many chapters it takes me to write the story I want to tell is how many chapters long the story will be.
The type of plot, the way I go about planning it, and my writing style tend to dictate the length. With most of my stories, I plot the major points in advance, but don't necessarily plan in great detail how I'll get from Point A to Point B to Point C. I think that's why stories like Broken and BMS got to be so long, because I let my writing take more of the long and winding road between those points LOL. They would have been shorter if I'd gotten rid of the subplots and just focused on the main storyline.
With Curtain Call, I really did stick to one storyline, and it was still long. With that one, I just had a timeline, and for each point on the timeline, I had to decide if that was an important enough event to warrant a scene in the story or if I could just summarize it and skip past it. I wrote the ones that I thought added something to the story I wanted to tell and let it go on as long as it needed to. That story was about a journey, and it was important for me to show that journey from beginning to end.
Secrets of the Heart is the first story I plotted out literally chapter by chapter. I knew I needed to plan it out in advance because of the way I wanted to weave together two intertwining storylines and make sure they worked together. With that one, I always knew it was going to be a set number of chapters, and that number was a lot smaller than in previous stories. I think my outline started out as 27 or 28 chapters, and I've since revised it and pared it down to 25. Shocking, I know! LOL
I will say, I have this OCD thing about numbers, where I like stories to end on round numbers. Like for Secrets, I was glad to get the outline down to 25 chapters because 25 is a better number than 27 or 28. For Broken and BMS, I worked really hard to make each part 50 chapters long, even if it meant making the chapters leading up to each 50 a little longer or shorter than normal. I was so determined to end BMS on an even 200 chapters and not 201 that I invented a "Post Epilogue" to go after the Epilogue LOL. I have this thing with numbers in real life too, especially with the volume on my TV. I prefer it to be set on a multiple of 5, but an even number will work too... never a prime number, though! *shudder*
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I missed a whole bunch of questions today! I'll try to summarize my answers.
Music is a big inspiration for me, and I have definitely been in the position where songs have come on, inspired a scene and that scene ended up changing the entire course of the story. The most recent time that has happened was with Girl by The Beatles and I'm sure that I'll never be able to listen to that song again without thinking of that scene. Not only did I envision the scene once when I heard it the first time, I replayed it over and over again trying to flesh out the scene in my mind, and then again as I wrote it out. So yeah, the song and the scene will be forever tied together for me now lol.
I try not to put limits on myself, but my stories do end up usually coming in at 20-25 chapters. The only exception to that I guess would be when I have no choice but to go over, like when writing a story that takes place day by day. I've done that twice now, and each time they come in at 40-45 (Running Up That Hill will end up being 45 when it's done I believe)
Julie, I'm so glad you mentioned the numbers thing, because I'm exactly the same way! I need the stories to end on a round number! I have one that ends on 26 chapters, and it still bugs me when I go look at it. When I outline, I definitely try to make my stories fit into that constraint. Oh, I also have a story that's sitting at 199 reviews and has been for a week or so. It's actually driving me kind of nuts. I don't care so much about getting another comment, I just need the number to flip lol. If it could get to 200 and then stay there, I would be very happy. My friend joked that she was going to make an account just to post a review that says "You're welcome." haha
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I am kind of like that too with even numbers. LOL Everything has to end on an even number.
I didn't link up my pivitol scene response but I saw most of you did. I am too lazy to go back and find these chapters.
As far as length, since I don't really outline, I usually go in blind as to how many chapters something is going to be. In my head I can pretty much figure it out by scenes I picture.
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Julie, I'm so glad you mentioned the numbers thing, because I'm exactly the same way! I need the stories to end on a round number! I have one that ends on 26 chapters, and it still bugs me when I go look at it. When I outline, I definitely try to make my stories fit into that constraint. Oh, I also have a story that's sitting at 199 reviews and has been for a week or so. It's actually driving me kind of nuts. I don't care so much about getting another comment, I just need the number to flip lol. If it could get to 200 and then stay there, I would be very happy. My friend joked that she was going to make an account just to post a review that says "You're welcome." haha
I'm glad it's not just me! LOL I'm like that with reviews too!! I just went to your AC profile to see if I could find that story and fix the problem for you, but it looks like it's not on AC.
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I'm glad it's not just me! LOL I'm like that with reviews too!! I just went to your AC profile to see if I could find that story and fix the problem for you, but it looks like it's not on AC.
Nah it's not on AC, but I appreciate the thought :)
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I'm really bad when it comes to the amount of projects I'm working on. I get an idea and I feel that I have to post immediatly cause it runs from beginning to end in my head, then I get stuck getting the whole middle done.
As of now I am continually working on...
Bound by Honor
The Body Shop
Ones that I've started but I'm having a hard time finishing are...
Nobody's Baby
Underneath Your Clothes
This one I have on hiatus cause my muse and I just couldn't keep going (this is where I really wish I wouldn't have started a sequel) I made a big booboo by starting that :(
Undying Devotion- sequel to Sinister Devotion
Pivotal scenes I've written I'm gonna say
Bound by Honor- chapter 28 When Sophia fights with Nick because he wants her to come to terms that he's going to die.
Fight Me- Chapter 24 when Nick actually puts up a fight for the first time in a long while against his opponent. Then he wins and doesn't even realize it since he's exhausted.
All my old stories took me about three or more years to finish. Which sucked!!! sinister Devotions, Fight Me and Just One Kiss were all written within four months because I outlined them. So I guess that's the key to being able to finish a story faster for me.
I do tend to set a chapter limit on myself most of my stories are about 30 chapters long, with exception of Ray of Hope which I somehow doubled. Ugh. lol.
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I have mild OCD so I can't stand odd numbers. When writing I usually don't plan how long it is gonna be, I just decide to end it where it seems fit. My longest story is 46 chapters long I think. The uneven review count bugs the hell out of me, also when I am really excited for my readers to see an update and nobody reads...that bugs me a bit too.
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I agree with the updating and no one reads. Although I notie the read count go up really fast but no reviews. Odd. I have a lot of readers that don't review...they send me DMs or emails instead. I guess they are shy or busy.
Question: Does anyone else get stuck on the ending of a story, even if you had already planned it out?
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That's always annoying, when you know people are reading but not reviewing for some reason. I just expect less readers and reviewers with certain stories, though. When I'm writing Nick/BSB drama and updating consistently, I get a good amount of feedback. With stories that are not about Nick, not BSB but AU, and not updated regularly, the number of reviews drops quite a bit. It just goes with the territory, though.
As far as endings, I usually don't get stuck too much. Sometimes I psych myself out, like Steph and some of us were saying before, if it's a part I've envisioned in my head so many times that I'm worried I won't be able to do it justice, but I always get over that. Usually I'm so excited to be almost done that I have a nice writing streak at the end of a story that carries me through the last few chapters. The actual ending, as in the last few lines of the whole story, can be tough, but I usually find the last line easier than the first line. A lot of times I have the last line in my head long before I actually write it, but if I don't, it can be hard to come up with the perfect one on the spot. I love the feeling of having the perfect last line all ready to go and knowing it's going to be the last line when I type it for the first time, so I can stick a period on it and type The End and let out a little sigh of satisfaction and call it done! Amazing feeling!
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I get annoyed with the read count thing too. Like my challenge I posted the other day with Mare's help...the read count jumped in just a few hours...but not the reviews. I don't write for the reviews, I just want to know what people think of it that's all. It helps me know what I can improve upon or if it turned out okay.
As for the endings....whe n I did the ending for FYO I had it planned out, but me and my dad were talking and he suggested something else. I was going to kill a major character off but his idea ended up working better.
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Yeah I will never ever understand why people don't review what they read. I know the only time I will ever abstain from reviewing, as I've mentioned before, is when the author doesn't respond to their reviews. Especially if they are selective of who they respond to. It takes five seconds to review, even if it's "loved it! Great job!" & it takes two seconds to respond with a "thanks!" seriously one of my biggest pet peeves ever lol I don't care how much I love the story, I'll Be done with it.
As far as endings go, I generally don't have trouble with those because I always have a very clear visual in my head of the ending. The last line sometimes is tough, like Julie said because you want to find the perfect thought to leave your readers with.
Which leads me to this question,
What is your favorite last line that you have written?
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I agree with the updating and no one reads. Although I notie the read count go up really fast but no reviews. Odd. I have a lot of readers that don't review...they send me DMs or emails instead. I guess they are shy or busy.
Question: Does anyone else get stuck on the ending of a story, even if you had already planned it out?
It's annoying, or people who tell you out of nowhere that they read a story and loved it, and never left a review. I'll never understand that as it only takes two seconds LOL. But, at least they eventually told me I guess. I have people who randomly tell me what they think on Twitter LOL. What's worse are people who either don't reply to reviews or only reply to some reviews. Replying is just courteous, especially when people are nice enough to leave feedback. No review is more special than another, even if it's not detailed, everything deserves a "Thanks!" at the least.
I don't usually ever get stuck on endings. I usually get stuck on beginnings LOL.
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The only time I don't review is either when it's known the author never replies, or I just didn't like the story. I don't give concrit unless asked, I tried once and it didn't go well. So now if I feel like something needs work (the exception being the reading challenge) or is just bad, I click out.
What is your favorite last line that you have written?
Comedy wise...
"It was those grapes!
Those fucking grapes!"
http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10891
Wins lmfao. I died laughing as I wrote that.
On a more serious note -
The screams I heard that night, the pain, what came next…
They’ll haunt my dreams till my dying breath.
http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10704
I love that, because it implies a lot of serious gore went down, but it leaves it to the imagination. Normally I go into detail LOL, but I challenged myself by keeping it out since it was a rule for Mare's challenge. It's just so haunting.
And in a novel...
I shut the door behind me.
http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10108
It's just simple and final. I feel like it's a very suitable last line for such a tragic story.
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It's those grapes! lol
I have no trouble with my first lines. It's usually somewhere in the middle I get stuck lol
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I don't plan my story length. My older stories were typically around 20-25 chapters without fail and a couple of my more recent ones as well are about that long. My sci-fi stories as of late are the ones that have been longer and I know it is because the plot is more complex I don't want to rush the storyline. I don't go into a story thinking it will only be so many chapters. I write until I have ended the story, no matter how long or what chapter number it is ;) I don't have a problem with an odd number ending my story or having 37 chapters instead of 40. *shrugs* :-D
I have gotten stuck on endings but have also gotten myself stuck on beginnings. Endings are sometimes hard because I want to make sure I've wrapped up everything I needed to have end. Also, I have an image of how it is supposed to end from the beginning of the story and I want to make sure I convey it correctly.
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The whole reviewing thing... I notice over here that my read count goes up dramatically every time I update or post something, but then no reviews. I think it kind of comes down to loyalty... there's one or two over here that always leaves feedback or most of the time, but over on MC, at least 40% of the people that read leave feedback and not just on mine, but on Lisa's stories and the other hosted stories.
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Maybe it is loyalty. Who knows. I write for me first and foremost though, and appreciative of the fact I get reviews the way I do here. In the end, I don't let review counts affect my writing. :)
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Neither do I, because if I did, I wouldn't waste my time putting them over her also :)
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You'll find those loyal readers who always give feedback on any site, including here. Don't forget that the read count goes up every time someone clicks on or refreshes - not necessarily reads - a chapter of your story. I know I always jack mine up a few notches just by checking to make sure my story posted correctly - and if I have to go back and edit it, checking again. So if I do go look to see how many people have viewed a chapter so far, I know a few of those are just me. The first chapter of any story is almost always going to have a higher read count than other chapters because of people who click on it to check it out and decide it's not for them.
Also, those of us with our own sites or our stories posted elsewhere shouldn't expect to get as many reviews on AC alone because there are other ways people can read our stuff and give feedback. I know when I first started posting my stuff on AC, I didn't get many reviews at all because the people reading it had already read it on my site and given me feedback there. Now most of them leave me reviews on AC instead because it's so much easier than emailing.
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You'll find those loyal readers who always give feedback on any site, including here. Don't forget that the read count goes up every time someone clicks on or refreshes - not necessarily reads - a chapter of your story. I know I always jack mine up a few notches just by checking to make sure my story posted correctly - and if I have to go back and edit it, checking again. So if I do go look to see how many people have viewed a chapter so far, I know a few of those are just me. The first chapter of any story is almost always going to have a higher read count than other chapters because of people who click on it to check it out and decide it's not for them.
Also, those of us with our own sites or our stories posted elsewhere shouldn't expect to get as many reviews on AC alone because there are other ways people can read our stuff and give feedback. I know when I first started posting my stuff on AC, I didn't get many reviews at all because the people reading it had already read it on my site and given me feedback there. Now most of them leave me reviews on AC instead because it's so much easier than emailing.
You summed it up nicely. All I have to add is that I agree LOL.
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What is your favorite last line that you have written?
He shook his head in disgust and disbelief. “She didn’t love us. She just left us there in pieces.”
http://absolutechaos.net/viewstory.php?sid=10646
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LMAO I didn't even have to click to see what story that was. Choppage FTW!
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What is your favorite last line that you have written?
Couple's Therapy: "I'm pretty sure that we're gonna be humping like the frogs soon."
Fear of Flying: "But after that, Nick always had a secret love for llamas that he never disclosed to anyone except for Ethan - the stuffed llama that he bought and slept with every night for the rest of his life."
Something Beautiful: "And, as usual, Brian was absolutely right."
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I'm just gonna say in advance also that the last line I have planned for Borrowed Time is pretty epic also but I'm not posting it. LOL
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I get random people on twitter that say they are reading and they liked my story. I just say thank you...but it really isn't hard to leave a review honestly.
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Here's what it breaks down to. While I'll be the first to say I write for me before anything, I'll never say I write solely for me. If I did, I wouldn't have the goal of one day getting published. I wouldn't be posting my stories here. All of us care to an extent. What bugs me, are the people who I see bitch on twitter about not getting reviews, or not getting enough reviews.
To those people I always want to yell at them to just be grateful people are enjoying your work.
Some people focus in on that and while all of us love feedback (or we wouldn't post it anywhere), some people are almost obsessed with it. I don't get why either.
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I haven't seen anyone being that obsessed with feedback on twitter lately. I don't write only for that reason. We all want feedback like you said, I'm sure that there is not a single person here that feels otherwise.
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I haven't seen anyone being that obsessed with feedback on twitter lately. I don't write only for that reason. We all want feedback like you said, I'm sure that there is not a single person here that feels otherwise.
I was speaking generally Tracy about stuff I have seen in the FF part of the fandom.
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Rose you said exactly what I've been saying/thinking for years. If we were the ONLY person we wrote for we wouldn't be posting for others to read. I write what I like, but I post to share my work with others and it's nice to have others tell you they are appreciating it. I have had a few people on twitter mention having read a story of mine, it makes my day to hear it. If people leave a review that's awesome, but if they tell me another way they enjoyed it, I'll take that too. As I'm sure you all do as well. :)
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Yeah I like getting comments on twitter too. I just feel like people think I write for feedback count but that isn't the case at all.
Sorry for the misunderstandi ng Rose.
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Yeah I like getting comments on twitter too. I just feel like people think I write for feedback count but that isn't the case at all.
Sorry for the misunderstandi ng Rose.
Most of the time, people will only think that stuff if you give them reason to you know? LOL. I mean I know when I see people get angry about how they "only" get so many reviews, then yeah, I'll think that about anyone who says that. Simply because that's how they're acting.
As long as you're appreciative about what feedback you get, and don't come off greedy for more or upset about not getting "enough" per say, I don't think people have a reason to think that about you.
And even if they did, who cares? LOL.
I know some people think bad things about me, I just couldn't care less :P.
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Thank you for that, I wouldn't blame anyone for feeling that way if I was acting like that. Sometimes I'm just a bit paranoid but I'm working on that.
I appreciate every comment I get. I have had someone recently just start reading bsb fanfic and read mine first, that really meant a lot to me.
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I like getting reviews just because of how unreliable the read count is and I really like knowing people like the work and I'm not just posting it for no reason. Getting reviews or seeing people talk about the story is what will motivate me to update a story I haven't touched in awhile. Getting feedback also helps me decide which direction a story should go, or can help me correct an error in character perception if the readers are seeing a character a way I don't want them to (which is another reason I like to post while stories are in the progress of being written). So I understand wanting feedback, especially if it's constructive in some way. I mean I love all reviews but I appreciate ones that actually comment on the story over ones that're like "update soon thanks" or "great chapter". I like the ones that really get into the story, like "this is what I thought about this part of the chapter and this is what I think about this..." etc. I also understand that people are busy and don't always have time to do those type reviews.
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I have had that happen Pengi. I a story that was sitting incomplete got a slew of reviews from one reviewer and it spurred me enough to actually finish the story... it is very nice to get reviews and comments. Helps keep you motivated.
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Yeah I will never ever understand why people don't review what they read. I know the only time I will ever abstain from reviewing, as I've mentioned before, is when the author doesn't respond to their reviews. Especially if they are selective of who they respond to. It takes five seconds to review, even if it's "loved it! Great job!" & it takes two seconds to respond with a "thanks!" seriously one of my biggest pet peeves ever lol I don't care how much I love the story, I'll Be done with it.
As far as endings go, I generally don't have trouble with those because I always have a very clear visual in my head of the ending. The last line sometimes is tough, like Julie said because you want to find the perfect thought to leave your readers with.
Which leads me to this question,
What is your favorite last line that you have written?
Just wanted to quote myself do you can see tonight's question. I might have gotten lost in all the review talk lol
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A lot of my longer stories have terrible last lines. That being said, I think I have a good one planned for Running Up That Hill. I have noticed that in my one-shots I tend to book-end my first and last line, either making them exactly the same as or some variation of the first line.
My favourite of these is from Total Request Live, where the story begins with Nick saying, "I hate TRL." and ends with him saying "I love TRL."
Touching on the feedback thing, if I'd written solely for feedback I'd have quit writing ages ago LOL. My old website had like, one comment in the guestbook. But I kept posting stuff and writing because it was fun and because I enjoyed it. Of course getting reviews is nice, and I'm sure some of my work could have a lot more reviews if I begged for them, but I'm not going to do that. To me the feedback isn't worth much if you had to pull teeth to get it. It's much more valuable to me to know that someone clicked into my story, read it and liked it because they actually wanted to, not because I asked them.
Besides, if I wrote for the purpose of getting reviews, you'd see Running Up That Hill updates a lot quicker :P
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To me the feedback isn't worth much if you had to pull teeth to get it. It's much more valuable to me to know that someone clicked into my story, read it and liked it because they actually wanted to, not because I asked them.
Exactly. I feel like if you're begging for reviews or whoring your story out like crazy, it defeats the purpose. I want to know people are telling me they enjoyed it because they wanted to, not because I begged them.
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Yeah I don't see the point in whoring yourself out. I will usually just post something once when I update and that's it.
As for endings, I guess the best one is when I wrote Nick being attacked by sharks and AJ says "at least he swam with the sharks before he died" lol
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Okay since reviews are such a hot topic, how do you all feel about authors who don't respond to reviews? Do you consider it a double standard to confess you enjoy getting reviews but then don't respond to them? If you don't respond, why? Do you only feel certain people are worthy of a reply while others are not?
Like I said, it's a huge pet peeve of mine so just curious to see if it bothers anyone else lol
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Okay since reviews are such a hot topic, how do you all feel about authors who don't respond to reviews? Do you consider it a double standard to confess you enjoy getting reviews but then don't respond to them? If you don't respond, why? Do you only feel certain people are worthy of a reply while others are not?
Like I said, it's a huge pet peeve of mine so just curious to see if it bothers anyone else lol
I think it's laziness. It doesn't take long to respond to a review, and honestly since they're taking the time to tell you they enjoy your story, you can take the time and at least give a simple thank you. It's common courtesy. It's like if someone compliments your outfit, it would be rude to ignore them right?
I feel everyone is worth a reply. I comment on every review I get. If it's a simple "Good Job!" even that, deserves a thank you. I feel like it's wrong to respond to some while not others. Each of those people commented, the least you can do is reply.
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the only time anymore, the ONLY time I don't respond to my reviews, is when they are duplicate reviews. I had that happen with a couple of my stories recently where the reply was a duplicate of the one right before, literally a duplicate. So I respond to one, but I usually delete the other though I'm sure I forget to delete the dups sometimes.
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^ and that is a valid reason to not respond to a review! lol probably the only valid reason in my book.
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Yes, that's the only time I don't respond, is if a review is submitted twice. And even then it's technically responding when I reply to one cause the other said the exact same thing lol. Normally I delete the copy.
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I make an effort to respond to each one, but just like my reviews for stories I read I try to make my responses actually have a purpose and a meaning. I try to divulge some "behind the scenes" thought process or random factoid or a link or something to make reading the response to the review worth it. I'm not gonna just sit there and go "Thank you" and thats it. Maybe I should, I dunno. But I respond to reviews as long as I have something constructive to say in response, if that makes sense. And I make an effort to have something even if the person leaving the review didn't say anything constructive to me. But honestly sometimes I just can't because like I'm afraid I'll end up giving away a plot twist or something crazy like that if I answer. I'll also wait to answer when I have a few to answer at once.
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I really think most people generally just expect a thank you and nothing more, unless they ask a question. That just might be my thinking though. My responses to people are generally in direct relation to what they say to me. If its a Long detailed review, I usually have more to say in response then someone who says "great job!" that's when I say "thanks!"
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If someone says "nice chapter" I say "thanks" there is not much for me to respond with but I like to reply to what was written to me. I also like to divulge some information that might be coming in my responses to my reviews.
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I make an effort to respond to each one, but just like my reviews for stories I read I try to make my responses actually have a purpose and a meaning. I try to divulge some "behind the scenes" thought process or random factoid or a link or something to make reading the response to the review worth it. I'm not gonna just sit there and go "Thank you" and thats it. Maybe I should, I dunno. But I respond to reviews as long as I have something constructive to say in response, if that makes sense. And I make an effort to have something even if the person leaving the review didn't say anything constructive to me. But honestly sometimes I just can't because like I'm afraid I'll end up giving away a plot twist or something crazy like that if I answer. I'll also wait to answer when I have a few to answer at once.
Even if it's not constructive, don't you think you should thank them for acknowledging your work in a review? I mean I feel like that alone merits a response.
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I always respond in relation to what they say. If they comment on something, I reply my thought process or the character's mindset for example. If they say "great chapter" or "I loved it!" That's when I give the "Thankies!" lol.
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I always respond in relation to what they say. If they comment on something, I reply my thought process or the character's mindset for example. If they say "great chapter" or "I loved it!" That's when I give the "Thankies!" lol.
ditto
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^ Same here! I base my response on the review. Like Mare pointed out, you can usually find more to say in response to a longer review, whereas with a "Great job!" or "Update soon!" kind of review, I usually just say thanks. But I always reply so they know I read and appreciated their review, because I always do! Even the short reviews let me know that person is reading and cares enough to say something, and that means a lot to me.
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It also lets your readers know that what they say matters to you. Perhaps that's why so many people are 'afriad' to leave reviews when they don't know what to say because they see authors being selective on who they thank? We might think its silly but it might honestly offend people.
Like I said its a ginormous peeve of mine lol even when it doesn't happen to me.
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I've had readers tell me before that they used to be afraid to email feedback or leave a review either because they didn't know what to say or didn't want to say something stupid. So even if it sounds silly to those of us who review everything we read without thinking twice about it, I could see someone second-guessing themselves if they went out on a limb to write a review in the first place and then realized the author responded to other people's reviews and not theirs.
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I get that with those who are strictly readers. What makes a little less sense to me are writers who fave your story and never review, and then you have no idea till out of the blue they say they liked your story. That's only because as a writer, you would think they'd understand. Especially if you see that person talking about how much they appreciate reviews themselves LOL.
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Yeah, I've always said I think readers who don't write have a warped view of how much feedback we actually get and what it means to us. Obviously now you can see exactly how many reviews a story has on AC, but before AC, there was no way to know. I remember when I first started posting my stories, I was lucky to get one piece of feedback in a month, but I still thought that the "popular writers" of the stories I was reading had to be getting so much feedback that an email from me wouldn't even matter to them. It was only once I started really talking to other writers that I realized that probably wasn't the case.
Then again, most of the "popular writers" I do remember emailing with feedback, I never heard back from. So... who knows, maybe they were getting too many emails to reply to, or maybe they just didn't care enough to reply. LOL See?! Whether it's true or not, that's the vibe you give off when you don't reply.
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^ that is just a major FAIL!! right there lol in response to Rose's post which is no longer above mine.
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^ also true what Julie said lol I keep messing up the quote button on here.
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I kind of went off on a tangent with what was going to be a response to Rose's post LOL, but yeah, writers should know better. Or care more. Or be less lazy. Whatever's the case!
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I like when writers respond to my review because I tend to leave long ones, and I enjoy seeing the responses afterwards. I respond 99 percent of the time. If I didn't, it means I've been busy or forgot to answer but eventually I will get around to it. If someone leaves a detailed review I respond the same way. If it's short sometimes I will say thanks for reviewing and that's about it.
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LMAO lazy people, not quoting.
Readers I get, it's writers that frustrate me cause they should get it.
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I admit since going off on my rant I have been scrolling through the most recent pages and it's nice to see that most people do respond to all their reviews. There are quite a few who either don't bother replying at all or are selective though. It makes Mare sad lol and annoyed.
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That's good to know that most people do! Just about everyone I review regularly responds regularly to mine. But most of those people are you guys, and we've had this conversation on here before LOL.
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More than once lol
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Oh yeah! LOL
So here's another question: Do you get emotional when you write emotional scenes?
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I try to respond to all my reviews! Even if they just say "Great job!" I'll say "Thanks!" because as you guys have said, I want them to know I appreciated it. I'll usually mirror my response to the length of the review though and try to open a dialogue about the specific things that were commented on.
Also, I agree with those of you who have said that when authors only respond to specific reviews it bugs you. It can really put me off too. I hasn't really happened to me lately though!
Before sites like this one and FF.net back in the day, I emailed a few people some feedback. Only one girl emailed me back and you know, her email really made my day. It made me feel like my email to her (which I'm sure was super teeny lol) was really appreciated. Back on FF.net you couldn't respond to reviews (and to my knowledge, you still can't, not without just sending a PM) so when I posted a new chapter I would always put a cheesy author's note at the beginning where I'd thank everyone who'd commented on the last one. Good ol' days of FF.net lol
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So here's another question: Do you get emotional when you write emotional scenes?
Yes, I have gotten emotional when writing a scene. Most of the emotions I get carried away with though are longing or the emotions of the bad guys.
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Oh yeah! LOL
So here's another question: Do you get emotional when you write emotional scenes?
Yes, and that's because emotional scenes for me are likely those pivotal ones I've built up in my head. So I need to totally immerse myself in them and sometimes that can be hard. I also tend to set the ambiance when I'm writing with sad music (as we talked about) so of course that doesn't help. After writing something like that, I find I need to take a breather and go for a walk listening to like... Aqua or something lol.
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Oh yeah! LOL
So here's another question: Do you get emotional when you write emotional scenes?
Depends how heavily angsty they are. But yes, I have. I've actually teared up writing them before. Once those ones that had me react that way are done, I typically need a break. I just get so into my character's heads sometimes and feeling the emotion of the scene...
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Before sites like this one and FF.net back in the day, I emailed a few people some feedback. Only one girl emailed me back and you know, her email really made my day. It made me feel like my email to her (which I'm sure was super teeny lol) was really appreciated. Back on FF.net you couldn't respond to reviews (and to my knowledge, you still can't, not without just sending a PM) so when I posted a new chapter I would always put a cheesy author's note at the beginning where I'd thank everyone who'd commented on the last one. Good ol' days of FF.net lol
Looking back, I realize the writers who actually replied to my feedback are the ones I became friends with. The ones who didn't were the ones I put on pedestals because I and everyone else loved their stories so much, but while I respected them as writers, I never got the opportunity to connect with them as people. My favorite fanfic authors nowadays are people I also consider to be my friends because we have those conversations back and forth, and it's not just one-sided.
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Yes. When writing Still The One and Nick gets into a horrible car accident, Brian being the first police officer on scene and cutting him out of the wreckage....th at part of the story was very emotional and I teared up writing it because it was so sad.
I get like that when I'm reading as well. I'm not usually a crier but there have been a few stories that have made me tear up.
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As for getting emotional... I used to on occasion, and now, not so much. I don't know if it's because I'm less of a drama queen or more of a sociopath LOL. It may be the fact that I don't listen to music as much when I write these days, whereas back in the days of Broken and BMS, I always had sad music playing. It may also be the fact that I research so much, it sort of removes any sort of emotional response to the situation. I hope that level of disconnect doesn't show in my writing.
I'm definitely more likely to cry over a scene I'm reading than one I'm writing. I am a huge crier when it comes to books, movies, TV shows, commercials... LOL.
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I don't really get emotional when writing but I've cried over stories. Like Curtain Call I bawled so bad at the end of that. And RMTW several times...SFTU as well.
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Damn, I missed a lot working 10 hours today!
-- Responding to reviews:
I try to respond to every one, especially over at my site. Sometimes the readers will tell us they would rather have another chapter than responses individually, especially if our schedules are tight (like how they are this week). We have a really cool commenting system, kind of like how it is over here, so we can respond to each review in the comments section individually. That's why I think maybe we get so many reviews over there because it's easy to just respond because you're already logged in.
And the only reason we do the log-in thing is kind of like the reason for the pop up warnings on some of the e-fiction sites, to protect ourselves from younger eyes and because I was stupid and started writing under my name when I started and could be easily found. I get a e-mail each time someone registers for the site so I can see if it's someone I don't want to see it.
-- Favorite lines (and now that I posted this, they all deal with sex LMFAO)
From "Love This Pain" (which isn't on my site anymore because I'm self-publishing it): "Don't lie to me while I'm still inside you."
And the most recent one that people seemed to like, from "Fearless" that Lisa and I are writing... "I just made Nick Carter cum in his pants. I was now some type of superhero, I was sure of it."
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Emotional during writing?
Sometimes I do... if someone is dying or something really sweet is happening, I'll catch myself crying.
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As far as last lines go, I have three lol I couldn't pick which one I liked best.
This is from Seaon's of Change where each part starts with Nick as he's giving his commencement speech at high school kind of in the same vein as Mel's with the journal entries.
As I walked back down to my chair I took one final look at the crowd, how different things were going to be for me now. I was terrified but open for the challenge. That's what life was all about.
This is from Shadow Woods:
“What are you staring at?”
I looked over at Kevin and smiled, this is something I was going to keep to myself for a long time until maybe one night over pizza and video games I’d blabber about it to Brian or something. Instead, I looked around the room seeing all my friends sleeping in various positions all over the place, including AJ who was actually in a ball on the floor and I said one word.
“Life.”
And this one is from The Apartment:
They grew to love each other and come together as less of a group and more of a family in this stupid, smelly one bedroom apartment that barely had enough light to see in the middle of a sunny Florida day, and when they would eventually make more than enough money to move out on their own, they would at certain points in their lives all miss this place. It was simple, it was plain but it was their home, even the ones who didn’t live there.
Kevin smiled, shut the light and closed the door.
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Oh yeah! LOL
So here's another question: Do you get emotional when you write emotional scenes?
Sometimes, on the story I just posted I actually did get a little emotional but most of the time it's the stories i'm reading, mostly books, that make me all teary eyed.
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Missed a lot again! Damn this nice weather making me spend so much time outdoors, lol.
As for not replying to reviews, that's one thing which really annoys me.
It doesn't take long to reply, even if it's just a "thanks". I know some people might wait and reply to a few in one go, that doesn't bother me, because at least they are acknowledging them eventually.
The people who only respond to certain reviews are the ones who piss me off the most, it's like some readers are more valued than others to them. For those writers, it makes me not want to even review at all. Maybe a little harsh, but if they can thank some, they can thank the rest!
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As for getting emotional when writing, the answer is no because I've not really written anything sad, only a couple of one shots.
Reading is where I get emotional. There are some stories on here which have had me in tears, but they were so worth it!
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To clarify about the reviews:
Because I post so fast, I tend to get 4-5 at a time from a single reader if they're commenting on each chapter as they go. A lot of times, I will respond to only the most recent one unless the others were in need of constructive responses. I'm not saying I don't ever just post a thank you to say thank you, I'm saying I tend to go to the most recent one of each reader's and say thanks there if I get multiple at the same time. A lot of times I'll post something like "Glad you're enjoyingi it, thanks for the review" if I don't have anything "more" to say to the reader about the chapter or their comments. A lot of the reviews I get on my phone, too, and I don't respond on my phone, so I'll answer them in clumps at home when my wifi's working, etc. lol ... Just wanted to clarify that. I understand saying thank you and I do; I guess I worded my first response kinda weird.
Anyways..
As for getting emotional writing a scene... it depends on what the scene entails. A lot of times I'll find myself feeling whatever the character who's POV I'm writing would feel. I tend to write more if I reach that place because I can stay in the character's head easier. I do try to give myself some time between finishing up writing and interacting with other people so I'm not inappropriatel y acting a certain way based on the character's mindset, though. LOL ... Ie., acting sad IRL because a character got in a fight would be awkward. LOL
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To clarify about the reviews:
Because I post so fast, I tend to get 4-5 at a time from a single reader if they're commenting on each chapter as they go. A lot of times, I will respond to only the most recent one unless the others were in need of constructive responses. I'm not saying I don't ever just post a thank you to say thank you, I'm saying I tend to go to the most recent one of each reader's and say thanks there if I get multiple at the same time. A lot of times I'll post something like "Glad you're enjoyingi it, thanks for the review" if I don't have anything "more" to say to the reader about the chapter or their comments. A lot of the reviews I get on my phone, too, and I don't respond on my phone, so I'll answer them in clumps at home when my wifi's working, etc. lol ... Just wanted to clarify that. I understand saying thank you and I do; I guess I worded my first response kinda weird.
I don't think anything is wrong with that.... I've done it. Some people are just too overly critical. :) :plugears:
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Missed a lot again! Damn this nice weather making me spend so much time outdoors, lol.
As for not replying to reviews, that's one thing which really annoys me.
It doesn't take long to reply, even if it's just a "thanks". I know some people might wait and reply to a few in one go, that doesn't bother me, because at least they are acknowledging them eventually.
The people who only respond to certain reviews are the ones who piss me off the most, it's like some readers are more valued than others to them. For those writers, it makes me not want to even review at all. Maybe a little harsh, but if they can thank some, they can thank the rest!
I actually have a black list of people I refuse to read who are the biggest offenders of doing that! lmao Seriously...
lack of getting reviews doesn't bug me as much as people not responding to them and like you said it's not just some people who wait and do it all at once or are sporadic or even the ones who don't bother at all for everyone. The ones who are continually selective of who they respond to I mean on every story for the entire story. Not just maybe one chapter they might have missed or one stray review that might have been lost.
I can obviously rant on and on about this so i'll stop now lol but yeah, I agree!
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I don't think anything is wrong with that.... I've done it. Some people are just too overly critical. :) :plugears:
I don't think anyone here is being overly critical. In fact all I see is a calm discussion. Where do you see people being overly critical? We don't all have to agree. It'd be boring if we did, don't you think?
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I actually have a black list of people I refuse to read who are the biggest offenders of doing that! lmao Seriously...
lack of getting reviews doesn't bug me as much as people not responding to them and like you said it's not just some people who wait and do it all at once or are sporadic or even the ones who don't bother at all for everyone. The ones who are continually selective of who they respond to I mean on every story for the entire story. Not just maybe one chapter they might have missed or one stray review that might have been lost.
I can obviously rant on and on about this so i'll stop now lol but yeah, I agree!
I understand when life gets in the way. We all have lives to contend with. I know for me, if I have time to update, I have time to reply to reviews. But, that's just me. People who tend to not reply, get less reviews from me. I'll still review if I read cause I'm not a hypocrite who wants feedback but won't give it myself. But if I feel like an author doesn't appreciate the feedback I'm giving, they don't need as much.
It's a pet peeve of mine too lol.
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I don't think anyone here is being overly critical. In fact all I see is a calm discussion. Where do you see people being overly critical? We don't all have to agree. It'd be boring if we did, don't you think?
I simply said some people are overly critical. Did I say you? Take it as you wish :)
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Karah is right. I am being overly critical because it bugs me! We all have our things and that's mine so I can be an Overly crticial Ollie on this one. I'll wear my banner proudly...oh wait I friggin hate those things too! lmao
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I simply said some people are overly critical. Did I say you? Take it as you wish :)
I believe I never said you said me. Did I say you said me? I was asking who was being overly critical in here, to cause your comment. Last I checked, there's several people posting in the thread. Not just you and I. That's why I asked what you meant.
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Karah is right. I am being overly critical because it bugs me! We all have our things and that's mine so I can be an Overly crticial Ollie on this one. I'll wear my banner proudly...oh wait I friggin hate those things too! lmao
See I didn't think you were lol. You posted your opinion just like everyone else. *slaps you with another banner*
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Karah is right. I am being overly critical because it bugs me! We all have our things and that's mine so I can be an Overly crticial Ollie on this one. I'll wear my banner proudly...oh wait I friggin hate those things too! lmao
LMFAO!
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I believe I never said you said me. Did I say you said me? I was asking who was being overly critical in here, to cause your comment. Last I checked, there's several people posting in the thread. Not just you and I. That's why I asked what you meant.
Considering you're usually so quick to jump on anything I say or do, how do you expect me to take it?
I felt like Hannah was misunderstood and I agreed with her logic. *shrugs* It was a DISCUSSION. I was pointing out my opinion. Are others allowed to do that but not me?
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Considering you're usually so quick to jump on anything I say or do, how do you expect me to take it?
I felt like Hannah was misunderstood and I agreed with her logic. *shrugs* It was a DISCUSSION. I was pointing out my opinion. Are others allowed to do that but not me?
Not jumping, I asked a question. I wasn't even rude. I'm sorry you took it as such. Your interpretation s aren't something I can control though.
Of course you're allowed to post your opinion. Just as I'm allowed to ask you to elaborate. Isn't that the point of discussion? I thought we were all being civil.
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LOL So next question: What is everyone most critical about when it comes to fanfic? What's your biggest pet peeve?
You all know mine has got to be grammar and conventions! I'm one of the biggest Grammar Nazis on the board. I can overlook little things if the storyline interests me enough, but if everything's in one paragraph, or you don't use capital letters or appropriate punctuation marks, or you misuse homophones or spell commonly used words (like the Boys' names?) incorrectly, I'm out!
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*Ahem* I think everyone knows what mine are lol
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LOL So next question: What is everyone most critical about when it comes to fanfic? What's your biggest pet peeve?
You all know mine has got to be grammar and conventions! I'm one of the biggest Grammar Nazis on the board. I can overlook little things if the storyline interests me enough, but if everything's in one paragraph, or you don't use capital letters or appropriate punctuation marks, or you misuse homophones or spell commonly used words (like the Boys' names?) incorrectly, I'm out!
Most critical?
Characters. Anyone who's asked for my concrit will tell you that if anything, I harp on characters. It's a thing. I hate one-dimmensional, flat boring characters. HATE THEM lol. And yes, that includes Mary-Sues! If it's blatantly obvious a character is a self-insert (similar features, names sounding the same as the author's real name, and then matched up with her fave Boy and has NO flaws), I will immediately click out. I mean if you're going to do a self-insert, at least don't be obvious about it! If your name is Cary, don't have a female named Carol or Candy or something, hooking up with your fave boy and having the same color hair and eyes as you. Just don't do it!
That, and storytelling, there needs to be a flow to the story, a smoothness to it. If it feels fragmented or jumpy, I tend to click out.
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*Ahem* I think everyone knows what mine are lol
Love you, Mare! :patpat:
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For me it is punctuation, grammar and the storyline/characters. A few days ago I was being a bit critical of someone's story and it was misconstrued as bullying. The story idea wasn't bad, it was the grammar and writing itself that was a turn off. Like Rose I get annoyed with the self inserts even though I've done it myself...like for example I do have a Tracy in Not The Other Guy that is based on myself with alterations. None of us here are completely perfect.
Also banners with the author's picture on it and loud colors or graphics annoy me as well.
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I don't give con-crit unless asked. I find it just leads to a lot of trouble and people can take it the wrong way cause they may not see what you're doing. That, and sometimes people just don't want it.
On that same note, people should never ask for concrit unless they can handle hearing negative things about their writing.
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I take this as another lesson learned. I didn't leave it in a review but a friend of mine showed her what everyone was saying (some were worse than me) and the girl posted a socialcam of herself crying because people were discussing the story. So I've learned my lesson and won't do it again. I honestly wasn't being harsh.
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For me it is punctuation, grammar and the storyline/characters. A few days ago I was being a bit critical of someone's story and it was misconstrued as bullying. The story idea wasn't bad, it was the grammar and writing itself that was a turn off. Like Rose I get annoyed with the self inserts even though I've done it myself...like for example I do have a Tracy in Not The Other Guy that is based on myself with alterations. None of us here are completely perfect.
Also banners with the author's picture on it and loud colors or graphics annoy me as well.
Those things annoy me too. I guess there's a fine line you walk when you express an opinion like that, whether on here or on Twitter, because even if it's just a general observation, not a personal attack on someone specific who does that, you run the risk of offending someone. Bullying has become such a big deal lately that it's almost like the whole political correctness thing... You feel like you have to watch what you say and censor yourself so you're not accused of bullying when someone gets offended by something you say.
When it comes to fanfic, I think everyone just needs to remember the phrase, "To each her own." We all like and dislike different things. That's why I asked what everyone was most critical about, because for those of us who are serious enough about writing to spend so much time on here discussing it, there's probably going to be SOMETHING. And if someone else's pet peeve is something you do in your writing, you have the choice to either be offended, learn from it and do it differently next time, or be proud of your work while understanding that it's not going to be for everyone. There's a reason we don't all have the same favorite story! And if we did, and we all wrote exactly the same way, these Question of the Day discussion threads would have died out a long time ago. What makes them interesting is that everyone's answers are different!
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I take this as another lesson learned. I didn't leave it in a review but a friend of mine showed her what everyone was saying (some were worse than me) and the girl posted a socialcam of herself crying because people were discussing the story. So I've learned my lesson and won't do it again. I honestly wasn't being harsh.
What has me scratching my head about this is, why would her friend show her something that was bound to hurt her feelings? I don't know the whole story behind this and didn't see what everyone was saying, but if they weren't saying it to her directly and weren't saying it on her timeline where she was going to read it anyway, she never would have seen what anyone was saying and never would have gotten her feelings hurt. As a friend, I think I would have messaged those people privately and said, "Hey, not cool; this is her first story; go easy on her," before I would show the girl the tweets. But I guess it's a good reminder that, unless your Twitter is private, you need to be aware that anyone can see what you're saying, even if you don't think they're going to look.
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Yeah I'm seeing that a lot now. I have to watch everything I say. I know none of you here are judging me, just giving your opinions. I will admit that I've done some things that are on your pet peeve list but I've learned from it and am constantly trying to improve myself.
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That made me wonder how she saw what people said. She's not on twitter I don't think. And if this girl was really a friend, you're right. She should have messaged her privately. That's what I would do. No need to make a big thing of it. The girl also picked at some that said something and then posted the girl's video saying "I hope all of you are happy"
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Yeah, I feel like sometimes the ones who claim to hate drama the most are the same ones who perpetuate that drama, whether intentionally or not. If you really hate drama, then stay out of it and say nothing. It'll die off eventually if people stop feeding into it.
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You pretty much hit the nail on the head there. No need to comment if it has nothing to do with you. I've made that mistake before as well. Ah the joys of being online lol
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Biggest fanfic pet peeve?
It's probably a toss up between the wall of text (impossible to read so I don't even bother trying) and... a story that tells you everything straight up. Maybe that second one isn't really a peeve, but I'd much rather read a story with some subtlety, that lets the reader try to figure things out through the character's actions rather than just being told what happens. I also like stories that end with a bit of a grey area, where the reader can sort of fill in their own ending. Kinda like the way The OC ended with Ryan and Taylor. Did they stay together? They gave each other that look, but we don't know, and the viewer can draw their own logical conclusion.
I don't like being told every little thing, I guess. I don't want to read a fanfic that tells me every single thing about the character's lives. Tell me about a story that happened in their life - not their life story, you know?
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^ I agree with you, Steph. I enjoy reading stories where things are kind of left up in the air. You don't really ever learn what happens to every single character and not every situation is resolved. Just like real life, not everythimgs with a big bow on top. When too many details are laid out, it almost becomes too mechanical to read.
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Here's another question:
Now that we've talked about our pet peeves etc..
What do you think you do that can be a peeve for some when it comes to your writing? Is there something that you get called out a lot on? And do you tend to agree with them or disagree?
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Biggest fanfic pet peeve?
It's probably a toss up between the wall of text (impossible to read so I don't even bother trying) and... a story that tells you everything straight up. Maybe that second one isn't really a peeve, but I'd much rather read a story with some subtlety, that lets the reader try to figure things out through the character's actions rather than just being told what happens. I also like stories that end with a bit of a grey area, where the reader can sort of fill in their own ending. Kinda like the way The OC ended with Ryan and Taylor. Did they stay together? They gave each other that look, but we don't know, and the viewer can draw their own logical conclusion.
I don't like being told every little thing, I guess. I don't want to read a fanfic that tells me every single thing about the character's lives. Tell me about a story that happened in their life - not their life story, you know?
That's a good one, Steph. I think I definitely have that problem of showing/telling too much, though I try to at least space it out through the story and not throw it all out there in the first chapter. I don't like when stories start with Mary Sue's whole life story up until that point, complete with a physical description that includes the outfit she picked out that day LOL. But I also find myself wanting to work in the details that I've come up with. I'm not very good at being subtle.
Do you ever worry about your readers "not getting it" when you're more subtle about things? I mean, leaving it up to their interpretation suggests they can come to their own conclusions, but would it bother you if they read your characters and their situation completely different from what you intended? I always wondered that in high school English classes, where we would have to read and overanalyze all this classic literature - like, did that author REALLY mean this as a symbol for such and such, or did some pretentious scholar just come up with that interpretation long after said author was dead, and now we're all just regurgitating it while said author looks down from above and laughs at us? LOL
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^ that is a great question as well! Even thougbh you posed it to Steph i'm going to answer it anyway since I tend to write that way as well.
I know I tend to be one of those open ended writers. I like to leave a lot up for debate when my stories are over and to me, that's the whole fun of it. I love hearing what people think really happened as opposed to what I pictured in my head. Sometimes it's the same but sometimes it's different. I enjoy leaving my characters very up in the air when all is said and done. I don't usually use the big bows at the end. LOL
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All the peeves you guys mentioned are mine too but it's funny because the smaller things bother me with fanfics. Obviously the grammar, editing etc... is the worst but I guess when I see stuff like that, I just click out. It's the things I am forced to see that bother me, like banners and some of these summaries! lol
Another stupid one for me is when people take the time to describe what the boys look like. I don't mean what they're wearing, I mean when you take the time to literally describe what each boy looks like as if we don't know. LOL I totally understand why it happens, but it still bugs me for some reason.
It's the small, petty things that bother me.
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Oh, one more...the word orbs! lmao I hate when people use that to describe someone's eyes. Who says that in real life? lmao
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Here's another question:
Now that we've talked about our pet peeves etc..
What do you think you do that can be a peeve for some when it comes to your writing? Is there something that you get called out a lot on? And do you tend to agree with them or disagree?
You know, I have no idea LOL. I'd love for someone who reads my stories to tell me.
I know I used to have tense issues when I wrote first person. So much so that I quit writing first person for awhile. But now it's the first thing I check when I go back and revise so it's not an issue anymore. Um...? Yeah, someone answer for me :P lol.
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Oh, one more...the word orbs! lmao I hate when people use that to describe someone's eyes. Who says that in real life? lmao
I used to be guilty of that at 16 lol.
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Here's another question:
Now that we've talked about our pet peeves etc..
What do you think you do that can be a peeve for some when it comes to your writing? Is there something that you get called out a lot on? And do you tend to agree with them or disagree?
I guess I kind of just answered that in my reply to Steph's post, but for people who prefer more subtle, vague, open-ended stories, my stories are probably too detailed and tend to wrap up in big shiny bows, even if the endings aren't always happy. The long ones, anyway. I'm more willing to leave things open-ended in a short story, although even that is tough for me. Some of the stories I've done for monthly challenges here, like Hybrid and Watch Me as I Bleed, I left open-ended, but it was hard because I had this whole back story in my head that I wasn't sure people would get if I didn't explain it. But I do think they were better left open-ended.
With the super long ones, though, I feel almost a responsibility to both my readers and my characters to resolve the story and give it an ending that's worth all the time the readers invested in reading it and all the shit I put my characters through to get to that point LOL. That's my preference as a reader, too, though; I love long stories that take me on a journey and leave me feeling satisfied at the end. If Harry Potter had ended at the moment when Voldemort Avada Kedavras him in the woods and left it up to my interpretation as to what happened, I would flipped out!!! I like resolution.
I'm sure the fact that I write long stories is annoying to people who don't like to read long stories LOL. I know I'm wordy, but when I compare my writing now to my writing ten years ago, I much prefer my writing now, so I make no apologies for writing in detail. 817,774 word BMS did teach me to stick to one storyline, or at least parallel storylines that go together, instead of veering off on every subplot that comes into my head LOL.
A lot of my stories include female characters and romantic subplots, which I know is a turn-off for some people (Mare). And I make banners for all my novels, which is also a pet peeve for some (Mare). LOL So I know what I do that annoys Mare! I'm not sure about other people's pet peeves, but feel free to let me know! LOL
I just write what I like, and if I can go back after the fact and reread one of my stories and feel proud of it instead of embarrassed, then I'll stand by what I've written, even if it doesn't appeal to everyone. I'm not going for universal approval; I don't even think that's possible!
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^ Also, I'm sure my novel-length responses are annoying to some people! Sorry about that. See, I'm wordy and like to explain too much!! LOL
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Biggest fanfic pet peeve?
It's probably a toss up between the wall of text (impossible to read so I don't even bother trying) and... a story that tells you everything straight up. Maybe that second one isn't really a peeve, but I'd much rather read a story with some subtlety, that lets the reader try to figure things out through the character's actions rather than just being told what happens. I also like stories that end with a bit of a grey area, where the reader can sort of fill in their own ending. Kinda like the way The OC ended with Ryan and Taylor. Did they stay together? They gave each other that look, but we don't know, and the viewer can draw their own logical conclusion.
I don't like being told every little thing, I guess. I don't want to read a fanfic that tells me every single thing about the character's lives. Tell me about a story that happened in their life - not their life story, you know?
I'm focusing in on the most OT part of your post... but I loved the series finale of the OC lol. It told just enough to make me happy. God now I kinda wanna go pop in my dvds lol. When I was in Newport over the weekend for my brother's wedding, I felt like I walked into the show. Hot shirtless boys walking down the street, celebrating my brother's wedding on a yacht... yeah, I had the song "California" in my head for almost the entire day LMAO.
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^ Also, I'm sure my novel-length responses are annoying to some people! Sorry about that. See, I'm wordy and like to explain too much!! LOL
Your wordiness tends to rub off on people too lmao. (Just look at Undead :P. My longest story before that is 42 chapters long!) But I love that about you LOL.
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Here's another question:
Now that we've talked about our pet peeves etc..
What do you think you do that can be a peeve for some when it comes to your writing? Is there something that you get called out a lot on? And do you tend to agree with them or disagree?
Haha my answer to this question is also my answer to Julie's question. I get called out a lot on my endings. To the point where my readers were sure that one of my stories was going to have a sequel, and when I told them no, they told me that sucked! I don't know if I'm any good at being subtle, but I do try. The thing that's kinda cool about it is that people do tend to analyze my characters and make assumptions as to what's going on in their head. I try to drop little hints along the way about what might happen, and when people pick up on them, that's a really nice feeling. It can be very hard to draw the line between what to tell and what not to tell, though. I'm still working on finding that balance.
Also Julie, even though I'm someone who loves the subtlety and the open ending, I adored the ending of BMS. So sometimes I think it really depends on the story!
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Oh, one more...the word orbs! lmao I hate when people use that to describe someone's eyes. Who says that in real life? lmao
LOL I almost said something about that in my response. That's what I now call "Stephenie Meyer writing." I don't know if other people have had this experience, but as my writing style evolved, I went from not being detailed enough (telling more than showing or being too heavy on the dialogue with not enough description) to being overly wordy and flowery because I thought that was how real novelists wrote (I don't know what the hell I was reading at the time LOL), and now hopefully I've found some place in the middle that is detailed and descriptive without being ridiculous about it. I look at some of the lines I wrote in Broken and just shake my head LOL. Broken uses the word "orbs" once to describe Brian's eyes, and every time I see it (because it's in one of those pivotal parts), I cringe! I think that style of writing is the sign of a novice writer who's trying too hard to be taken seriously.
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Haha my answer to this question is also my answer to Julie's question. I get called out a lot on my endings. To the point where my readers were sure that one of my stories was going to have a sequel, and when I told them no, they told me that sucked! I don't know if I'm any good at being subtle, but I do try. The thing that's kinda cool about it is that people do tend to analyze my characters and make assumptions as to what's going on in their head. I try to drop little hints along the way about what might happen, and when people pick up on them, that's a really nice feeling. It can be very hard to draw the line between what to tell and what not to tell, though. I'm still working on finding that balance.
Also Julie, even though I'm someone who loves the subtlety and the open ending, I adored the ending of BMS. So sometimes I think it really depends on the story!
The ending of BMS was fantastic. I agree, I think it depends on the story. Sometimes open-ended is better, and at other times it's better to wrap everything up.
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I'm focusing in on the most OT part of your post... but I loved the series finale of the OC lol. It told just enough to make me happy. God now I kinda wanna go pop in my dvds lol. When I was in Newport over the weekend for my brother's wedding, I felt like I walked into the show. Hot shirtless boys walking down the street, celebrating my brother's wedding on a yacht... yeah, I had the song "California" in my head for almost the entire day LMAO.
I sob my eyes out every single time I watch that finale. That's why I used that example lol I think a lot of us have watched that show, since it's been discussed a little before.
But man, when Ryan flashes back to Seth saying "Hey," I just... :(
Err yeah anyway, The OC is a perfect example of everything I love about storytelling. Good characters who grow and change over time unless they get killed off excellent humour that is well placed, great callbacks, fantastic book-ending, and fantastic music.
I am sure that in my writing you can see a lot of influence from The OC.
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Also Julie, even though I'm someone who loves the subtlety and the open ending, I adored the ending of BMS. So sometimes I think it really depends on the story!
Thanks! I can appreciate how completely over-the-top the ending to BMS is, but honestly, I still love it too. After all those chapters and everything those two characters went through, I couldn't think of ending it any other way. The post-epilogue was inspired by the ending of one of my favorite fanfics, and I love the ending of that story too. But that's just my preference. That's not to say I hate open endings. If it fits the story, it's a nice touch, and sometimes, the strong reaction I have to being left hanging appeals to me as much as an ending that leaves me with a warm fuzzy feeling and tears in my eyes. As long as I have some kind of emotional response to the ending, it's a good ending in my mind LOL.
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I sob my eyes out every single time I watch that finale. That's why I used that example lol I think a lot of us have watched that show, since it's been discussed a little before.
But man, when Ryan flashes back to Seth saying "Hey," I just... :(
Err yeah anyway, The OC is a perfect example of everything I love about storytelling. Good characters who grow and change over time unless they get killed off excellent humour that is well placed, great callbacks, fantastic book-ending, and fantastic music.
I am sure that in my writing you can see a lot of influence from The OC.
You are making me eye my OC DVDs LOL. I haven't had an OC marathon in awhile!
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Stuff that I do?
Well I write AU a lot. I know a lot of people don't really like AU. Female lead in Weird World and the fact it's a science fiction.
In my romance series....prob ably that it is drawn out. Also has some cliches. Amanda isn't a well developed character because I spent so much time working on Nick's abusive childhood and inner struggle with his self worth. I also have myself as a character.
I can be to overly critical of myself and put myself down which leads to maybe people not wanting to read, I can't get Rose's words out of my head "if you don't believe in yourself, people won't believe in you" . Whenever I start doubting what I wrote I hear that little voice nagging me.
I also write wordy reviews because I like to point out what I liked but sometimes I ramble. (I do that on forum too)
I use banners (sorry Mare) lmao but not all have banners.
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Not to take us too far off the topic of writing, but I am the same way with TV shows. I tend to follow the shows that go on forever, and when they finally end, I like them to end big, with a two hour series finale that brings back old characters and references old storylines and wraps the whole thing up in a nice big package with a pretty bow.
It's no secret that my favorite show of all time is ER; I watched it faithfully for 15 years, every Thursday night at 9:00, I have all 15 seasons on DVD, and I've watched most of the episodes multiple times. It jumped the shark in Season 10 and really wasn't great for most of the last five seasons, but the series finale (really, the whole last season) definitely delivered. I feel cheated when shows either leave me hanging on purpose or get cancelled before they shoot a series finale (ugh).
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LOL Julie! I bet we have all used orbs at one point in our fanfic writing lives.
I do think it depends on the story as far as open endings go. I thought Harry Potter ended perfectly. I do think I would have been just as happy if he died at the end though. A true open ending and one I probably would have done, would have been him just walking into the forest, even before he encounters Voldemort with no clue what happens once he goes through the trees.
That's how my mind works though. I would have also been content with that. After a huge series of 7 books, that one needed a shiny bow for most plus it was written for young ones, if she had left it like that, the kids would have been jumping off bridges! lol
I LOVED Stephen King for ending the Dark Tower series the way he did though! LOVED LOVED LOVED!!! That was my kind of shiny bow!
I think when you do have a super long novel, the reader does expect a resolved ending. I think open endings truly work best in the suspense, action genres then just drama, romance etc... Although I do like how you ended RMTW, Rose. Even for a drama and we all kind of knew what was going to happen, you left it up to the reader to picture how that would be.
I never read BMS so I don't really know how that one was in relation to the topic but it makes sense for there to be a final ending in Curtain Call. I couldn't imagine that one having an open end after all the crap you put him through. Poor cancerous Nick! LOL
Kind of like if after all that torture in Swollen Issues, we don't ever find out what happens to Nick. LOL
I am really wordy with my replies too! It's the one thing I don't leave open ended oh Except...
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I never read BMS so I don't really know how that one was in relation to the topic but it makes sense for there to be a final ending in Curtain Call. I couldn't imagine that one having an open end after all the crap you put him through. Poor cancerous Nick! LOL
Kind of like if after all that torture in Swollen Issues, we don't ever find out what happens to Nick. LOL
LOL Don't worry, CC definitely has an ending, though it's not anywhere near as over the top as BMS.
As for Swollen... that ending was abrupt, but fitting too because it was realistic. Even though I knew it was coming, I didn't know when and wasn't necessarily expecting it then, and I cried... oh I cried LOL.
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Not to take us too far off the topic of writing, but I am the same way with TV shows. I tend to follow the shows that go on forever, and when they finally end, I like them to end big, with a two hour series finale that brings back old characters and references old storylines and wraps the whole thing up in a nice big package with a pretty bow.
It's no secret that my favorite show of all time is ER; I watched it faithfully for 15 years, every Thursday night at 9:00, I have all 15 seasons on DVD, and I've watched most of the episodes multiple times. It jumped the shark in Season 10 and really wasn't great for most of the last five seasons, but the series finale (really, the whole last season) definitely delivered. I feel cheated when shows either leave me hanging on purpose or get cancelled before they shoot a series finale (ugh).
I am with you on this one! It's the one time I really crave a real ending. I need to know what happens to the characters I have invested so much of my time watching and I hate when a show gets cancelled before they have a chance to do that! (Alcatraz, The Firm, Harry's Law, etc...) I had stopped watching ER after Mark died off but I still watched the last few episodes of ER and was very happy with the end result. I loved how they brought so many people back including Rachel!
I have never watched the OC in my life lol the references always go over my head. It's been in my Blockbuster Queue for the longest time but never gets sent to me. I just got the first disc to the first season of the Good Wife though. Looking forward to seeing that one.
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LOL Don't worry, CC definitely has an ending, though it's not anywhere near as over the top as BMS.
As for Swollen... that ending was abrupt, but fitting too because it was realistic. Even though I knew it was coming, I didn't know when and wasn't necessarily expecting it then, and I cried... oh I cried LOL.
I was mad at first, but then after a few minutes thought it was brilliant lol
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I do think it depends on the story as far as open endings go. I thought Harry Potter ended perfectly. I do think I would have been just as happy if he died at the end though. A true open ending and one I probably would have done, would have been him just walking into the forest, even before he encounters Voldemort with no clue what happens once he goes through the trees.
I really did think he was going to die and remember even saying at one point that if I were JKR, that's what I would do - have him sacrifice himself to kill Voldemort and save the world. But what I love about her brilliance is that she was able to do that... and still have him survive so we could have a full-on happy ending. It was the best of both worlds in my mind. And people definitely would have lost it if she had ended it with him walking into the forest! And I would have been one of them, OMG LOL.
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I was mad at first, but then after a few minutes thought it was brilliant lol
Yeah, it's a good ending!
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I am with you on this one! It's the one time I really crave a real ending. I need to know what happens to the characters I have invested so much of my time watching and I hate when a show gets cancelled before they have a chance to do that! (Alcatraz, The Firm, Harry's Law, etc...) I had stopped watching ER after Mark died off but I still watched the last few episodes of ER and was very happy with the end result. I loved how they brought so many people back including Rachel!
I have never watched the OC in my life lol the references always go over my head. It's been in my Blockbuster Queue for the longest time but never gets sent to me. I just got the first disc to the first season of the Good Wife though. Looking forward to seeing that one.
Yeah, ER was never the same after Mark died. That was kind of the beginning of the end, although Season 9 had some interesting stuff happen. Season 10 is where it started going over the top. But they brought back a lot of the old characters for cameos in Season 15, which played on the nostalgia and made it worth watching. Rachel coming back as a med student in the finale was a great way to bring it all full circle. I literally just gave myself goosebumps typing that, I'll have you know LOL. Love, love, LOVE that show.
You should bump The OC to the top of your queue! It's seriously an amazing show! Way more than just a teen drama. A friend in real life got me started watching it, and then I payed it forward and convinced several others to give it a try, and I seriously do not know anyone who hasn't gotten hooked by the end of the pilot. Season 1 especially is nothing short of outstanding.
We maybe should take this conversation to the TV show thread LOL.
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As far as things I do that can be a pet peeve.
Definitely the open endings. I leave a lot up to my reader's imaginations and sometimes they dont like that or expect a sequel LOL
Sometimes my plots in my action/suspenses can be a little complex and sometimes hard to follow and keep straight.
And of course the cliff hangers. I am really bad with those things and I know it can be off putting to some, especially when I then go for a week or two without an update.
I think those are the three biggest fanfic offenses I tend to pull.
I'm sure there are plenty more! lol
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Mare I actually love your cliffhangers :) I tend to do that as well. Also sometimes the plot gets confusing, not sure if that comes across for my readers but nobody has called me on anything as of yet.
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I LOVED Stephen King for ending the Dark Tower series the way he did though! LOVED LOVED LOVED!!! That was my kind of shiny bow!
I think when you do have a super long novel, the reader does expect a resolved ending. I think open endings truly work best in the suspense, action genres then just drama, romance etc... Although I do like how you ended RMTW, Rose. Even for a drama and we all kind of knew what was going to happen, you left it up to the reader to picture how that would be.
Part of me was SO mad but another part of me loved it. It's why I can reread that series over and over LOL.
Yeah I wanted to wrap up enough so no one got mad, but for people to picture in their heads how bad Nick got. I felt like it didn't need the horrific detail on that LOL. So thank you :).
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Still thinking of a FF pet peeve I'm sure people can have with my stories.
Oh, I tend to sometimes live too much in the character's head, in 1st or 3rd person. So at times I may go and let them ramble in their heads a little too much with no purpose to it. Just because I'm writing and I'm letting them think and yeah.
Another would probably be that I have absolutely no problems killing people lol. I'm sure some would find my stories a bit too gore filled at times.
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I really did think he was going to die and remember even saying at one point that if I were JKR, that's what I would do - have him sacrifice himself to kill Voldemort and save the world. But what I love about her brilliance is that she was able to do that... and still have him survive so we could have a full-on happy ending. It was the best of both worlds in my mind. And people definitely would have lost it if she had ended it with him walking into the forest! And I would have been one of them, OMG LOL.
OMG if that had been how she ended DH I would've been LIVID lmfao. That would not have been okay LOL. I probably, if I'd been her, would've had no problem sacrificing Harry. I'm mean :P.
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I also love your cliffhangers, Mare! I may tell you I hate you in reviews LOL, but I secretly love you for it. It's the same way with TV shows that do that, as many of my favorites do - I may scream at my TV and go, "OMG, how I will I ever make it to next week?!" but then it gives me something to look forward to, and that is fun. That said, it's more fun to read your stories when they're finished so I can resolve the cliffy by reading on and not have to wait for the next update LOL.
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LOL I love to yell at Mare when she leaves cliffhangers. It's a fun sort of "hate", hehe.
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Mare I actually love your cliffhangers :) I tend to do that as well. Also sometimes the plot gets confusing, not sure if that comes across for my readers but nobody has called me on anything as of yet.
Aww thanks, Tracy! A lot of people tend to complain about them lol
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I love cliffhangers by anyone really. It makes me look forward to the next update. I loved using those in FYO lol. I miss writing suspense.
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Thanks guys! Glad to know it's a love hate thing! LOL
I am with you, Tracy. I love cliffhangers especially when I know they are going to be resolved and not left by someone who never intends to finish what they started. Like let's say shooting Kevin and having Nick living with the Amish ... lmao hrmm....
I STILL hate Eboni for leaving her Prisoners of War story on a cliffhanger! And that was about 10 years ago!! lol
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Stuff that I do?
Well I write AU a lot. I know a lot of people don't really like AU. Female lead in Weird World and the fact it's a science fiction.
In my romance series....prob ably that it is drawn out. Also has some cliches. Amanda isn't a well developed character because I spent so much time working on Nick's abusive childhood and inner struggle with his self worth. I also have myself as a character.
I can be to overly critical of myself and put myself down which leads to maybe people not wanting to read, I can't get Rose's words out of my head "if you don't believe in yourself, people won't believe in you" . Whenever I start doubting what I wrote I hear that little voice nagging me.
I also write wordy reviews because I like to point out what I liked but sometimes I ramble. (I do that on forum too)
I use banners (sorry Mare) lmao but not all have banners.
no reason to apologize for banners, Tracy i'm an odd duck and I don't think many people would have a problem with a female lead in a story as well. Those are just quirky me things. LOL and not always either.
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And I think everyone appreciates wordy reviews!
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I am with you, Tracy. I love cliffhangers especially when I know they are going to be resolved and not left by someone who never intends to finish what they started. Like let's say shooting Kevin and having Nick living with the Amish ... lmao hrmm....
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I promise you, I did and still do intend to finish that story! Blame Nick! Seriously, though, I'm still working on clearing my plate so that I have nothing else to distract me and am forced to figure out where the hell I'm going with GR so I can continue it LOL.
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*side eyes Julie* oh wait.....lmao I don't like when I'm into a really good story and then they stop updating and vanish.
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Thanks guys! Glad to know it's a love hate thing! LOL
I am with you, Tracy. I love cliffhangers especially when I know they are going to be resolved and not left by someone who never intends to finish what they started. Like let's say shooting Kevin and having Nick living with the Amish ... lmao hrmm....
I STILL hate Eboni for leaving her Prisoners of War story on a cliffhanger! And that was about 10 years ago!! lol
Yeah! Hmmmm wonder who would do that? LOL.
Dude, I'm still sad she never finished The Question. Ugh, I loved all of Eboni's stories.
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I promise you, I did and still do intend to finish that story! Blame Nick! Seriously, though, I'm still working on clearing my plate so that I have nothing else to distract me and am forced to figure out where the hell I'm going with GR so I can continue it LOL.
I just feel the need to give you gentle reminders from time to time when the opportunity shows itself! :) lol
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I promise you, I did and still do intend to finish that story! Blame Nick! Seriously, though, I'm still working on clearing my plate so that I have nothing else to distract me and am forced to figure out where the hell I'm going with GR so I can continue it LOL.
*coughs*UnlessYouDidWhatYouDidWithCurtainCallAndDitchGRForRandomInspiration*cough* :)
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Yeah! Hmmmm wonder who would do that? LOL.
Dude, I'm still sad she never finished The Question. Ugh, I loved all of Eboni's stories.
I swear one day i'm going to send her a random email or IM her and yell at her!! LOL
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I just feel the need to give you gentle reminders from time to time when the opportunity shows itself! :) lol
I know, and I appreciate it; it's nice to know people still care and that when I get back to updating it consistently, they'll hopefully still want to read it. :) My track record may be against me on that one, but I must point out that I resurrected a story I hadn't updated in two years before this summer and am almost done with it now, so I'm hoping for the same with GR when Secrets is done.
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I swear one day i'm going to send her a random email or IM her and yell at her!! LOL
LOL she was so one of the authors I looked up to heavily back in the day. Boys In The Basement was another fave of mine.
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Thanks mare :) I tend to leave really detailed reviews whenever I read, and I also review every single chapter. I think I have way too much fun reviewing!
I like banners, they add a little pop to what you're writing. I've clicked on stories because I thought the banner was awesome, like Time Has A Way by Tri.
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LOL she was so one of the authors I looked up to heavily back in the day. Boys In The Basement was another fave of mine.
I have forgotten about that one! I miss Eboni! We used to have some epic conversations over IM back in the day lol
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no reason to apologize for banners, Tracy i'm an odd duck and I don't think many people would have a problem with a female lead in a story as well. Those are just quirky me things. LOL and not always either.
LOL so I should be proud of the fact I have you reading a story with a female in the banner. (Even if I desperately need to update it). Then again...the female's dead so that's probably why.
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Thanks mare :) I tend to leave really detailed reviews whenever I read, and I also review every single chapter. I think I have way too much fun reviewing!
I like banners, they add a little pop to what you're writing. I've clicked on stories because I thought the banner was awesome, like Time Has A Way by Tri.
Leaving a nice detailed review is great! It's always something I look forward to reading and of course replying too! :p lol
Banners...eh lol
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I have forgotten about that one! I miss Eboni! We used to have some epic conversations over IM back in the day lol
http://web.archive.org/web/20030924071202/bewaretheenchanted.homestead.com/Welcomeindex.html
Yeah I still have the archive bookmarked lol. She was a great writer.
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LOL so I should be proud of the fact I have you reading a story with a female in the banner. (Even if I desperately need to update it). Then again...the female's dead so that's probably why.
Yes, her being an ex person is a huge plus! LOL and what was that story again? It's been so long since i've seen an update on that one it's faded from my memory! >:( kind of like that other story about running up something or other....
Must I remind you all i'm the one who stopped writing? LOL
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http://web.archive.org/web/20030924071202/bewaretheenchanted.homestead.com/Welcomeindex.html
Yeah I still have the archive bookmarked lol. She was a great writer.
YAY! I'll have to bookmark that and reread!
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Yes, her being an ex person is a huge plus! LOL and what was that story again? It's been so long since i've seen an update on that one it's faded from my memory! >:( kind of like that other story about running up something or other....
Must I remind you all i'm the one who stopped writing? LOL
LMAO Divine Intervention. Do I need to get you a shock collar before you start wandering around naked? :)
Hey now, I'm writing a bromance at least right now! You should be happy with me LOL. I'm filling a personal request. Ignoring the fact you just happened to kick me back into writing again LOL.
Yeah you stopped writing...with your one-shots being posted daily!
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^ oh yeah, that other story you haven't updated in a while either! LOL
I'm glad everyone is writing full throttle again! Yay all of us!!
including me until they all leave and go back to their real lives again! BOO!!
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LOL it hasn't been a week yet and I've got the Howie chapter started! So :P!
It feels so good to be writing consistently again.
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LOL It is a little sad that Miss I'm-not-writing-fanfic-anymore Mare still updates more consistently than the rest of us. But I've been updating every few days too, just not on the story anyone wants me to update LOL.
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Hey to be fair, I said I was never going to write novels anymore. lol
As long as you're writing something! I'm still working on Maria & Mersey!
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I swear I'm gonna catch up lol. I loved Secrets. Just not till I finish my reading on the challenge. Lately all my time's been writing or trying to write lol.
OMG please do Mare. I miss the other two Ms! Maria needs to finish YBS for heaven's sake lol.
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I think we have a better shot at Maria than Mersey lol
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I know :(. But Mersey had some great stories too...
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I agree! Well she is going to be featured in October so maybe that'll make her get back into it? LOL
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There's another question:
If you could bring back one fanfic author who has completely stopped writing, who would it be?
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I can't think of anyone as my favorite authors are all still active.
But if I give mare cookies maybe she will write more?
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I can't think of anyone as my favorite authors are all still active.
But if I give mare cookies maybe she will write more?
Aww, thanks, Tracy! I seem to be writing plenty though. LOL
I'll take a cookie though! I will never say no to one of those!!
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Earlier I wanted cake and now I want cookies. My diet is going to hell lmao
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LOL So next question: What is everyone most critical about when it comes to fanfic? What's your biggest pet peeve?
....... spell commonly used words (like the Boys' names?) incorrectly, I'm out!
Sooo... Kevin probably shouldn't write fan fiction about Nick, yes? :D ;D
Sorry, was catching up, saw that, and couldn't NOT say it. ;)
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There's another question:
If you could bring back one fanfic author who has completely stopped writing, who would it be?
Um...I have more than one LOL.
Mersey
Maria (Marina for those who don't know)
Eboni
And Mare to go back to writing more than just one-shots :).
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There's another question:
If you could bring back one fanfic author who has completely stopped writing, who would it be?
Bianca or Susan because they were my friends, besides being some of my favorite fanfic writers, and once they stopped writing, they kind of stopped coming online too. Not to mention, they both left unfinished stories I was into!
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Earlier I wanted cake and now I want cookies. My diet is going to hell lmao
Only if you actually eat those things!! LOL
I eat an unlimited amount of fake cookies and cakes during the day! And then I wash it down with my fake chocolate shake!
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Sooo... Kevin probably shouldn't write fan fiction about Nick, yes? :D ;D
Sorry, was catching up, saw that, and couldn't NOT say it. ;)
I wanted to kick Kevin when I saw that LMAO.
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Sooo... Kevin probably shouldn't write fan fiction about Nick, yes? :D ;D
Sorry, was catching up, saw that, and couldn't NOT say it. ;)
LMAO Exactly! Although I would be curious enough to read what kind of story Kevin wrote about Nick that I would probably let that one slide. ;)
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I bet he did that on purpose! you know that's how I'm going to play it.
How can I rile the fans up YES! Nicholas! that'll do it! lol
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Um...I have more than one LOL.
Mersey
Maria (Marina for those who don't know)
Eboni
And Mare to go back to writing more than just one-shots :).
Oh and Stephanie! (Bluehiggio I think her sn was). She was one of my early collaborating partners. I loved her stories (Like Time's Enemy and Sammy) too. She was just fun to chat with. I miss her.
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Chocolate milkshakes are good but don't have the raspberry one if Nick gives it to you. I will never take food from that boy. No way!
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I don't enjoy fruity shakes so I'll probably be safe, but thanks for the heads up lol
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Chocolate milkshakes are good but don't have the raspberry one if Nick gives it to you. I will never take food from that boy. No way!
LOL! Don't eat his muffins either.
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LOL! Don't eat his muffins either.
....that just sounds so dirty. LOL
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LMFAO that really does sound dirty. *dies* and no muffins for me, thank you. Haven't eaten any since your story Julie.
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....that just sounds so dirty. LOL
LOL You have no idea.
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....that just sounds so dirty. LOL
LMAO and is...in a way...
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Holy smokes it took me forever to go through this thread. By the time I answer I get left behind in the convo lol. But I enjoy reading your conversations.
Reviews- I tend to have big gaps where I don't go online or my iPod doesn't want to work. So if I can't respond to a review I always thank my readers for their feedback in the notes and explain why I can't respond. I think they knew I appreciated and didn't do it on purpose cause they stuck around. I have stopped reviewing and reading some stories cause I've noticed the selective responses.
Fanfic pet peeves- Walls of text, girl meets BSB at a concert and immediately fall in love plot, overly descriptive stories, would this fall into fanfic pet peeves...when an author brags about how great they are and then you read their story and it's disappointing.
Gotta go back and see the rest of the questions.
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Oh and authors I wish would come back are Alota_cookin, Honey and Filiklepto.
Critical things I do- I have issues with comas :shrug:, I write mostly AU, I make banners, I write about odd things...
Still thinking of a FF pet peeve I'm sure people can have with my stories.
Oh, I tend to sometimes live too much in the character's head, in 1st or 3rd person. So at times I may go and let them ramble in their heads a little too much with no purpose to it. Just because I'm writing and I'm letting them think and yeah.
Another would probably be that I have absolutely no problems killing people lol. I'm sure some would find my stories a bit too gore filled at times.
I do that too Rose, especially in first person. I think Jack in Sinister Devotion tended to rant a bit too much.
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would this fall into fanfic pet peeves...when an author brags about how great they are and then you read their story and it's disappointing.
That's a pet peeve of mine too. It's great to be proud of your work, but don't brag about it... and if you are gonna brag, then it better be good! LOL Bragging is something that tends to turn me off to an author/story, more than attract me to it, though.
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I agree about the bragging as well, it is a turn off.
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Wow, pages and pages to catch up on again.
Things I do which could be other people's peeves...I've used my own name in stories in the past (we all did over on the site I used to go on), probably not descriptive enough at times, sometimes don't update enough, and I'm sure there are loads more faults.
Writers I'd like to see back are Honey and Filiklepto as I love their stories.
My biggest writing peeves are walls of text, bad spelling and presentation.
Can't remember what other questions were asked.
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That's a pet peeve of mine too. It's great to be proud of your work, but don't brag about it... and if you are gonna brag, then it better be good! LOL Bragging is something that tends to turn me off to an author/story, more than attract me to it, though.
Yes! LOL. Sometimes people go on and on about how great their story is, or how many reviews they get. And all it does is make me want to not read. Or people who mention their story all the freaking time. Big turn off.
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Yes! LOL. Sometimes people go on and on about how great their story is, or how many reviews they get. And all it does is make me want to not read. Or people who mention their story all the freaking time. Big turn off.
I have been kinda bad about that on Twitter lately, blabbing about what I'm writing and posting dumb lines from my stories that I'm proud of. lol maybe that's the thing I do that annoys other people? Ah well.
Most of the authors I really liked are still writing. I do wish Dani would come back and finish Unsuspecting Sunday Afternoon, though.
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There's too much for me to catch up on.
To wrap up the last 48 hours worth of posts I just skimmed though...
A lot of your guys' stuff I have read and never reviewed and if you've left me one I likely haven't noticed it yet to reply because I hate getting email notifications about things. LOL :hidesface:
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Ah yes I hate email notifications too I only notice if I get reviews on new stuff because I'll look for it. But if someone reviews something of mine that's old chances are I won't notice for a little while lol
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It's been so long since I last posted anything that I don't remember what I normally do lol
I know I was checking H&H when I knew Ritz was reading for the summer challenge because I did want to respond to her reviews. Speaking of which I still have to finish that...
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I have been kinda bad about that on Twitter lately, blabbing about what I'm writing and posting dumb lines from my stories that I'm proud of. lol maybe that's the thing I do that annoys other people? Ah well.
Most of the authors I really liked are still writing. I do wish Dani would come back and finish Unsuspecting Sunday Afternoon, though.
I don't find you annoying, if it helps lol. I mean the ones who try to tweet to get people to read it. Like those who reply to something out of nowhere and bring their fic into it. I've tweeted about my own writing. It's just the ones who try to do it all day or bring it up to others and try to be slick to get people to read lol.
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There's too much for me to catch up on.
To wrap up the last 48 hours worth of posts I just skimmed though...
A lot of your guys' stuff I have read and never reviewed and if you've left me one I likely haven't noticed it yet to reply because I hate getting email notifications about things. LOL :hidesface:
The review I remember getting from you was where you told me I wrote a chapter where you didn't hate Kevin lol. I remember only because that was an accomplishment lmao.
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I don't find you annoying, if it helps lol. I mean the ones who try to tweet to get people to read it. Like those who reply to something out of nowhere and bring their fic into it. I've tweeted about my own writing. It's just the ones who try to do it all day or bring it up to others and try to be slick to get people to read lol.
Yeah I definitely don't do that but you know how I feel about self-promo lol.
There's this one girl on the other site who promos herself so much that when someone started a rec thread she actually put in her request "Yes [self-promo girl] I have read all your stuff do not promote it!" LMAO. I felt vindicated.
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The review I remember getting from you was where you told me I wrote a chapter where you didn't hate Kevin lol. I remember only because that was an accomplishment lmao.
Well, when significant things like that happen its worth pointing out! Lol
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There are a bunch of authors I wish would come back!
I agree with those who said Filiklepto. She really needs to update and finish On the Rails. It's like the only AU I am really sucked into.
I would also love to see Izzy, Chaos, Eboni and Refuse to come back too!
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Yeah I definitely don't do that but you know how I feel about self-promo lol.
There's this one girl on the other site who promos herself so much that when someone started a rec thread she actually put in her request "Yes [self-promo girl] I have read all your stuff do not promote it!" LMAO. I felt vindicated.
Funny!! That annoys me too.
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There are a bunch of authors I wish would come back!
I agree with those who said Filiklepto. She really needs to update and finish On the Rails. It's like the only AU I am really sucked into.
I agree about Filiklepto! I really want her to finish On Nightingale Hill.
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I am Rose's pet peeve with writing. :) LOL
I have characters that need more depth. I self promote my stories, I have bragged and it's been nothing special ;p
I have self-inserted and used names similar to my own. There are surprisingly a lot of red heads in my stories. I am sure I have plot points that leave you hanging....
and of course, I have mare's favorite, banners. :)
I never really read a lot of fanfic on AC before the last couple of years so I'm not missing any authors.
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I am Rose's pet peeve with writing. :) LOL
I have characters that need more depth. I self promote my stories, I have bragged and it's been nothing special ;p
I have self-inserted and used names similar to my own. There are surprisingly a lot of red heads in my stories. I am sure I have plot points that leave you hanging....
and of course, I have mare's favorite, banners. :)
I never really read a lot of fanfic on AC before the last couple of years so I'm not missing any authors.
LOL now I feel bad :P.
Oddly enough, I actually wasn't thinking of you in my pet peeves. I didn't know you did self-inserts, the only one I know about was in 00Carter LOL. You do self-promote a lot though, and I'll be the first to say it's a turn off. I feel like a little goes a long way in that aspect.
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Yeah I definitely don't do that but you know how I feel about self-promo lol.
There's this one girl on the other site who promos herself so much that when someone started a rec thread she actually put in her request "Yes [self-promo girl] I have read all your stuff do not promote it!" LMAO. I felt vindicated.
Exactly. A tweet to say I update (and I don't even do that as much now that I have my cousin following me on twitter. Last thing I need is him finding me here!) and a post in the update thread is usually as far as I go.
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There was a whole long train of thought that brought this question into my head yesterday after our chatty conversation, but I thought I'd wait for a lull to post it. So here it is!
I was thinking yesterday about how we all like to write different things and the reasons I like to write what I do, and I came to the conclusion that there are three types of fanfic writers:
1. Writers who write about things they wish would happen, or their greatest fantasies.
2. Writers who write about things they hope never happen, or their worst nightmares.
3. Writers who write about things that really did happen, either in the Boys' lives or their own lives.
I'm sure most of us do all three, to some extent, but which category would you say you fall into most of the time?
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LOL now I feel bad :P.
Oddly enough, I actually wasn't thinking of you in my pet peeves. I didn't know you did self-inserts, the only one I know about was in 00Carter LOL. You do self-promote a lot though, and I'll be the first to say it's a turn off. I feel like a little goes a long way in that aspect.
Yup... I have done self inserts. Most of the time anymore it's for shits and giggles like 00Carter. Some little small part just to put my stamp on it in a way. My earlier stories are more guilty of the self-inserts. More Than That is my first name, Messing with Magic is a name close to mine and maybe my description, can't remember. Like I said, I typically use it for fun now. In DOV I made my self-insert (the description) the big baddie and proceeded to kill myself off. (nothing I need to talk about in therapy... nope) Sure there's a prequel with her but at that point it wasn't a self isnert anymore.
I really don't self promote THAT much. I talk about my stories on twitter because that is one of the reasons I have twitter so I can talk about my fanfiction. I don't consider talking about writing my story or being stuck on my story self promotion either. Since I've finished CP I haven't really self promoted as much. I don't think my self promotion really had to push you away from reading my stuff though. Not hard to be pushed away when you weren't going to read it to begin with. I know my stuff isn't your cup of tea.
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There was a whole long train of thought that brought this question into my head yesterday after our chatty conversation, but I thought I'd wait for a lull to post it. So here it is!
I was thinking yesterday about how we all like to write different things and the reasons I like to write what I do, and I came to the conclusion that there are three types of fanfic writers:
1. Writers who write about things they wish would happen, or their greatest fantasies.
2. Writers who write about things they hope never happen, or their worst nightmares.
3. Writers who write about things that really did happen, either in the Boys' lives or their own lives.
I'm sure most of us do all three, to some extent, but which category would you say you fall into most of the time?
I don't know which one I fit into just thinking about my most recent works. Sure I would love to get attention from the boys but I really don't want to be manipulated, thrown through time OR living in a society where I would already be dead since I'm past that age....
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I don't think there's anything wrong with a little self-promotion, because if some of you are as "serious" about writing as you claim to be, if you ever do get something published, whether by a real publisher or self-published like I'm doing, you have to promote. Why wouldn't you if you're proud of something you wrote? Whether it's fan fiction or a real novel, I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about what you're writing.
As for what type of writer I am, I'm a mixture of writing about things that I wish would happen (fantasies) or things that really did happen. There's only a few things that I've written that I wish would never happen (ie: Nick killing himself).
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Yup... I have done self inserts. Most of the time anymore it's for shits and giggles like 00Carter. Some little small part just to put my stamp on it in a way. My earlier stories are more guilty of the self-inserts. More Than That is my first name, Messing with Magic is a name close to mine and maybe my description, can't remember. Like I said, I typically use it for fun now. In DOV I made my self-insert (the description) the big baddie and proceeded to kill myself off. (nothing I need to talk about in therapy... nope) Sure there's a prequel with her but at that point it wasn't a self isnert anymore.
I really don't self promote THAT much. I talk about my stories on twitter because that is one of the reasons I have twitter so I can talk about my fanfiction. I don't consider talking about writing my story or being stuck on my story self promotion either. Since I've finished CP I haven't really self promoted as much. I don't think my self promotion really had to push you away from reading my stuff though. Not hard to be pushed away when you weren't going to read it to begin with. I know my stuff isn't your cup of tea.
I'm going to be straight with you. I love sci-fi, I'm a big nerd about it. It used to be ALL that I would write actually. I still love it. I was actually planning on checking out CP because the summary caught my eye till I saw your self-promo tweets. It made me not want to read it until the reading challenge. It's why I picked that story when I got paired up with you, because it was one I'd want to read anyway.
You don't self-promote much now, but with that story, you did. I don't mind fanfic talk, because like I said to Steph, we all do that. But I do feel there's a difference.
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There was a whole long train of thought that brought this question into my head yesterday after our chatty conversation, but I thought I'd wait for a lull to post it. So here it is!
I was thinking yesterday about how we all like to write different things and the reasons I like to write what I do, and I came to the conclusion that there are three types of fanfic writers:
1. Writers who write about things they wish would happen, or their greatest fantasies.
2. Writers who write about things they hope never happen, or their worst nightmares.
3. Writers who write about things that really did happen, either in the Boys' lives or their own lives.
I'm sure most of us do all three, to some extent, but which category would you say you fall into most of the time?
I've always been writer number two LOL. I always write about things I hope will never happen. Horrible deaths, alien wars, epic accidents. And let's not forget cruel diseases LOL.
Lately, I've been writing more in number three, where it's things that really did happen with my own spin on it.
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There was a whole long train of thought that brought this question into my head yesterday after our chatty conversation, but I thought I'd wait for a lull to post it. So here it is!
I was thinking yesterday about how we all like to write different things and the reasons I like to write what I do, and I came to the conclusion that there are three types of fanfic writers:
1. Writers who write about things they wish would happen, or their greatest fantasies.
2. Writers who write about things they hope never happen, or their worst nightmares.
3. Writers who write about things that really did happen, either in the Boys' lives or their own lives.
I'm sure most of us do all three, to some extent, but which category would you say you fall into most of the time?
I think I pretty much fall into the last category. I tend to enjoy writing stories where the things I write about have really happened to a certain extent, but then put in enough fictitious elements to liven things up. It's also just not the boys though. I'll sometimes use things that have happened in my life and make the boys have to deal with it. lol I do the second one as well, when it comes to the suspense stuff I write, but I can honestly say I don't think I've ever done the first.
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You're not alone there Mare. I've never done the first LOL. I don't even read the first typically lmao.
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I'm going to be straight with you. I love sci-fi, I'm a big nerd about it. It used to be ALL that I would write actually. I still love it. I was actually planning on checking out CP because the summary caught my eye till I saw your self-promo tweets. It made me not want to read it until the reading challenge. It's why I picked that story when I got paired up with you, because it was one I'd want to read anyway.
You don't self-promote much now, but with that story, you did. I don't mind fanfic talk, because like I said to Steph, we all do that. But I do feel there's a difference.
This post is why PMs are a great thing. There's really no reason we all needed to know that. Not in this thread anyway. When you guys fill out the final challenge survey, that's when you can have at it.
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This post is why PMs are a great thing. There's really no reason we all needed to know that. Not in this thread anyway. When you guys fill out the final challenge survey, that's when you can have at it.
Sorry, I just got offended at the previous post saying I would never read anything of hers, when it's not true.
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I wasn't having it out with her, just making comments as I saw it and what she replied doesn't bother me either. *shrugs*
I think I wrote the first category, wished it would happen, with my first few fics. MTT and MWM very much fit into those categories. I've never done 3 in the sense of what is going on with the boys but I've thrown a little bit of my own life, what has happened or is going on with me.
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Sorry, I just got offended at the previous post saying I would never read anything of hers, when it's not true.
I know! It's all good. :)
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I wasn't having it out with her, just making comments as I saw it and what she replied doesn't bother me either. *shrugs*
I think I wrote the first category, wished it would happen, with my first few fics. MTT and MWM very much fit into those categories. I've never done 3 in the sense of what is going on with the boys but I've thrown a little bit of my own life, what has happened or is going on with me.
When I said have at it, I didn't mean a barroom brawl or anything lol just this type of discussion. But if you don't mind it... just trying to keep everyone happy.
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BTW Mare I'm sad you never do #1 :P.
You mean you don't want someone to carve MINE into your flesh? That wasn't a fantasy? LOL
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This post is why PMs are a great thing. There's really no reason we all needed to know that. Not in this thread anyway. When you guys fill out the final challenge survey, that's when you can have at it.
Agreed. It's just plain out rude.
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With the self-promotion thing, I agree that if you want to get your stories seen and build up a base of readers, you do have to do some self-promotion, especially when you're just starting out. Steph has talked about how it's necessary on the One Direction fanfic site she's started posting on because there are so many stories being updated every day, it's easy to get lost in the shuffle unless you make an effort to draw readers to your story. That's not such a problem on AC, where stories may stay on the first Most Recent page for a few days, but I still tweet once when I update and post in my update thread here so people will know. I try not to spam everyone's Twitter timeline with tweets about my stories because I know not everyone reads them, wants to read them, or wants to hear about them all the time. If they do want to talk about them with me, awesome, but that's what reviews or the update threads here are for.
Obviously, published writers who are trying to make money off their books have to promote them if they want to make any money LOL. And unless they're self-publishing, there's a publishing company behind them that wants to make money too, so it's kind of an expectation! Most of us are not trying to make money at this, though; we're writing fanfic for the fun of it and posting it for free. We all want readers, but I must admit, I find it annoying when I see my timeline filled with lots of "OMG This chapter I wrote is so awesome; everyone should go read it right now!" tweets from the same person and people RTing compliments they received. I guess it's not much different from seeing lines from good reviews about a book on the back of the book's cover, but I think that's what makes it seem pretentious coming from fanfic writers. I don't mean to diminish what we do because I DO take my writing seriously, but I don't pretend to be the next Stephen King or something LOL. There's nothing wrong with talking about your stories; obviously, we all enjoy talking about our writing, or we wouldn't be doing it in this thread. I don't mind seeing people tweeting about what they're writing on Twitter. It's just when it verges on bragging that it becomes more of a turn off than an attractant.
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With the self-promotion thing, I agree that if you want to get your stories seen and build up a base of readers, you do have to do some self-promotion, especially when you're just starting out. Steph has talked about how it's necessary on the One Direction fanfic site she's started posting on because there are so many stories being updated every day, it's easy to get lost in the shuffle unless you make an effort to draw readers to your story. That's not such a problem on AC, where stories may stay on the first Most Recent page for a few days, but I still tweet once when I update and post in my update thread here so people will know. I try not to spam everyone's Twitter timeline with tweets about my stories because I know not everyone reads them, wants to read them, or wants to hear about them all the time. If they do want to talk about them with me, awesome, but that's what reviews or the update threads here are for.
Obviously, published writers who are trying to make money off their books have to promote them if they want to make any money LOL. And unless they're self-publishing, there's a publishing company behind them that wants to make money too, so it's kind of an expectation! Most of us are not trying to make money at this, though; we're writing fanfic for the fun of it and posting it for free. We all want readers, but I must admit, I find it annoying when I see my timeline filled with lots of "OMG This chapter I wrote is so awesome; everyone should go read it right now!" tweets from the same person and people RTing compliments they received. I guess it's not much different from seeing lines from good reviews about a book on the back of the book's cover, but I think that's what makes it seem pretentious coming from fanfic writers. I don't mean to diminish what we do because I DO take my writing seriously, but I don't pretend to be the next Stephen King or something LOL. There's nothing wrong with talking about your stories; obviously, we all enjoy talking about our writing, or we wouldn't be doing it in this thread. I don't mind seeing people tweeting about what they're writing on Twitter. It's just when it verges on bragging that it becomes more of a turn off than an attractant.
I agree with some of what you said to a certain extent. I know on our MC twitter account, when people tweet us things they liked in the chapter, I'll RT them. It's a twitter account for the fan fiction site, so people obviously know that tweets are going to be made about the stories, which is why they followed it in the first place. Personal account? I don't do that kind of stuff that often, but I do talk about writing, whether it's talking to Hannah, Lore or Steph or someone else.
That's one of the problems I've had now with my self-publishing, I haven't felt great and work has been busy so I haven't really promoted and I've seen a small drop in sales... so I'm going to take some time to do that this weekend.
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BTW Mare I'm sad you never do #1 :P.
You mean you don't want someone to carve MINE into your flesh? That wasn't a fantasy? LOL
No, but maybe I would like to carve that into someone else some day lol
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There was a whole long train of thought that brought this question into my head yesterday after our chatty conversation, but I thought I'd wait for a lull to post it. So here it is!
I was thinking yesterday about how we all like to write different things and the reasons I like to write what I do, and I came to the conclusion that there are three types of fanfic writers:
1. Writers who write about things they wish would happen, or their greatest fantasies.
2. Writers who write about things they hope never happen, or their worst nightmares.
3. Writers who write about things that really did happen, either in the Boys' lives or their own lives.
I'm sure most of us do all three, to some extent, but which category would you say you fall into most of the time?
I am definitely #2. I do try to weave real life events into my stories, but it's been a long time since I wrote a story that was solely my interpretation of a real event, like Running Up That Hill, Borrowed Time, or the various stories about them recording in London. I'd be lying if I said I didn't put some fantasies into my stories, too, but I can honestly say I would not want to be any of my characters because, for the most part, they go through so much trauma and tragedy and trials in their lives that even if they get a happy ending, it's not worth it! My life is not that exciting, but it's not that dramatic either, and I'd like to keep it that way! LOL
I have always written about things that scare me, and I'm not talking about my horror stories. Zombies, killer monkeys from outer space, and even more realistic threats like murderers and kidnappers do not scare me. Death, illness, accidents - those are my biggest fears. The things that can happen unexpectedly to you or your loved ones that you can't prevent and can't control... Those are the things that scare me, and I think that's partly why those are the things I choose to write about. I've written very few stories that don't contain some sort of death or near-death experience.
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No, but maybe I would like to carve that into someone else some day lol
So when I see it happen in the news, I'll know it's you! :D
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No, but maybe I would like to carve that into someone else some day lol
And saying things like that is why I'm single at the moment lol
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I agree with some of what you said to a certain extent. I know on our MC twitter account, when people tweet us things they liked in the chapter, I'll RT them. It's a twitter account for the fan fiction site, so people obviously know that tweets are going to be made about the stories, which is why they followed it in the first place. Personal account? I don't do that kind of stuff that often, but I do talk about writing, whether it's talking to Hannah, Lore or Steph or someone else.
That's one of the problems I've had now with my self-publishing, I haven't felt great and work has been busy so I haven't really promoted and I've seen a small drop in sales... so I'm going to take some time to do that this weekend.
It makes sense to create a separate Twitter page for your site/writing if you like to talk about it a lot, so that the people who care to read those tweets can follow that account, and the people who care about you personally but don't necessarily want to hear all about your stories can just follow your personal account.
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So when I see it happen in the news, I'll know it's you! :D
Or I'll change the MINE to Uh...SOMEONE ELSE'S lol
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And saying things like that is why I'm single at the moment lol
LMAO I dunno, Mare, have you ever watched Strange Sex on TLC? I bet some people would be into that!!
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Or I'll change the MINE to Uh...SOMEONE ELSE'S lol
LMFAO or to HERS/HIS?
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There was a whole long train of thought that brought this question into my head yesterday after our chatty conversation, but I thought I'd wait for a lull to post it. So here it is!
I was thinking yesterday about how we all like to write different things and the reasons I like to write what I do, and I came to the conclusion that there are three types of fanfic writers:
1. Writers who write about things they wish would happen, or their greatest fantasies.
2. Writers who write about things they hope never happen, or their worst nightmares.
3. Writers who write about things that really did happen, either in the Boys' lives or their own lives.
I'm sure most of us do all three, to some extent, but which category would you say you fall into most of the time?
I've written in all three.
My early stories are more or less number 1, I've self-inserted with a few stories and they've been romance. Although to be honest, I wouldn't want them to come true! Like with Ten Things, I had the character (who happens to be called Steph but is not really like me) marry AJ after a drunken night in Las Vegas.
Now I'd say I write a mixture of 2 and 3. I'd never want any of it to come true (like the plane crash in Save A Prayer, or being executed at the age of 30 like Unwinding Truth), but it's fun to write it.
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I have a question which has probably been answered before but I can't remember.
Do your friends/family in real life know that you write fan fiction?
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I don't know if that was ever an official question, but I know we've discussed it - but that's okay, because some people are just joining in and maybe didn't answer it before.
My immediate family - my parents and my sister - know I write fanfic. My sister knew almost from the beginning because we still shared a bedroom when I started, so it was kind of hard to hide it from her. My mom knows about my site, but has never read my stories - she promised she wouldn't way back when she found out about my site, and I actually think she's kept that promise. I have to give her credit; I think I would totally snoop to see what my kid was writing, but I don't think she really cares to read stories about the Backstreet Boys, even by me. I think if she had read some of them, she probably would have mentioned it by now. She's the only one who ever asks me about my site or my writing, but it's usually with the attitude of, "Are you still doing that?? When are you going to stop writing about the Backstreet Boys and write a real book?" My dad is completely computer illiterate, so I doubt he's ever seen my site.
None of my real life friends know, and I would be mortified if they found out LOL.
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LMAO I dunno, Mare, have you ever watched Strange Sex on TLC? I bet some people would be into that!!
lmao nope never caught that show but I bet!
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LMFAO or to HERS/HIS?
Maybe IT WASN'T ME! lol
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My mom knows, but that's because of Julie lmao. Maybe she still has the photos. One year for Christmas she sent me a 00Carter - Drums doll she made lmfao. I loved it and it's beside my "Magic Turtle" on my computer desk. My mom saw it though once so then I had to explain everything, including the concept of fanfiction. She's the only one who knows though.
Everyone else just knows I write.
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And this is the origin of my magic turtle lol. We used to joke that our random ideas happened the same way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN0N0tKAPLM
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The only person who knows I write fanfic is my sister. No one else knows & never will!
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I have a question which has probably been answered before but I can't remember.
Do your friends/family in real life know that you write fan fiction?
I have several family and friends who know I write fanfic. I have a co-worker that I talk to when I get stuck, heck even the guy I go to lunch with knows I write BSB fanfic. I've gotten to the point where it doesn't bother me that much if I am talking and it comes out but I also don't advertise it to everyone I talk to.
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My mom knows, but that's because of Julie lmao. Maybe she still has the photos. One year for Christmas she sent me a 00Carter - Drums doll she made lmfao. I loved it and it's beside my "Magic Turtle" on my computer desk. My mom saw it though once so then I had to explain everything, including the concept of fanfiction. She's the only one who knows though.
Everyone else just knows I write.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q289/joolligan/Funny/drumsdollbox.jpg
And the Drums doll was inspired by the Broken Nick doll that my friend Susan made for me for Christmas one year, which I had to open in secret in my bedroom and then lie to my parents about what had been in that package and then hide it inside a pair of sweatpants in the back of my closet. LOL It's STILL hidden in that pair of sweatpants in a box in my closet, and I live alone now!
But Broken Nick doll and Drums doll were buddies before I shipped Drums off to Rose!
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q289/joolligan/Funny/drumsbrokennickdolls.jpg
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I have a question which has probably been answered before but I can't remember.
Do your friends/family in real life know that you write fan fiction?
I've told my Mom... when I made a t-shirt for PJ night on the cruise, she didn't understand it. I tried to explain, but I think she forgets.
My friends at work know.... one of my best guy friends that I used to work with accidentally opened up MC one night when I left it logged in on my computer at work and read some. My cousin's daughter knows, who follows me on Twitter. She was saying how she dreamed of One Direction three nights in a row and I told her I used to do the same thing, which led me to write fan fiction.
I'm not really ashamed of it. *shrugs* If it weren't for getting involved in fan fiction, I would have never went back to college for English, which led me to do what I'm doing today.
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My mom knows, but that's because of Julie lmao. Maybe she still has the photos. One year for Christmas she sent me a 00Carter - Drums doll she made lmfao. I loved it and it's beside my "Magic Turtle" on my computer desk. My mom saw it though once so then I had to explain everything, including the concept of fanfiction. She's the only one who knows though.
Everyone else just knows I write.
Very similar reason why I eventually told my sister. Mersey sent me a build a bear lion dressed in fishing gear and made me a fly fishing type card that referenced the story and had Kevin & Nick's picture on it. She was confused about why I would get something fishing related since I've never fished in my life lol so I finally spilled the beans.
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aww a fishing build a bear! OT I made my husband a cow from build a bear that was dressed like him... LOL
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Very similar reason why I eventually told my sister. Mersey sent me a build a bear lion dressed in fishing gear and made me a fly fishing type card that referenced the story and had Kevin & Nick's picture on it. She was confused about why I would get something fishing related since I've never fished in my life lol so I finally spilled the beans.
Awww that's so cute!
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Very similar reason why I eventually told my sister. Mersey sent me a build a bear lion dressed in fishing gear and made me a fly fishing type card that referenced the story and had Kevin & Nick's picture on it. She was confused about why I would get something fishing related since I've never fished in my life lol so I finally spilled the beans.
LOL I've gotten questions like that over stuff I've gotten from online friends too, the stuff I don't hide. I'm always just like, "Oh, it's an inside joke." When I was writing the post-choppage part of Broken, I had a Ren & Stimpy icon on AIM because of the whole "Ren & Stumpy" joke, and my mom was chatting with me on there (while I was away at college) and asked about the icon, and I was just like, "Oh, don't you remember Ren & Stimpy? I loved that show!" So she bought me a Ren & Stimpy t-shirt for Christmas that year LOL. I really did like that show... but maybe not THAT much LOL.
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LOL I've gotten questions like that over stuff I've gotten from online friends too, the stuff I don't hide. I'm always just like, "Oh, it's an inside joke." When I was writing the post-choppage part of Broken, I had a Ren & Stimpy icon on AIM because of the whole "Ren & Stumpy" joke, and my mom was chatting with me on there (while I was away at college) and asked about the icon, and I was just like, "Oh, don't you remember Ren & Stimpy? I loved that show!" So she bought me a Ren & Stimpy t-shirt for Christmas that year LOL. I really did like that show... but maybe not THAT much LOL.
The zombie doll got a few questions. But that I was able to fend off pretty quick lol. I just said I always loved zombies and that that love got renewed by Walking Dead.
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The zombie doll got a few questions. But that I was able to fend off pretty quick lol. I just said I always loved zombies and that that love got renewed by Walking Dead.
Same here LOL. The good thing about me collecting random things now is that most weird things that came from online friends I can explain away that way. The Broken Nick doll is the only thing I have that is really too specific to be random. But the various severed legs and body parts I have, I keep in my random things display.
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Same here LOL. The good thing about me collecting random things now is that most weird things that came from online friends I can explain away that way. The Broken Nick doll is the only thing I have that is really too specific to be random. But the various severed legs and body parts I have, I keep in my random things display.
I love your random things collection. Definitely more epic in person.
It's okay I had to explain why I randomly got a giant zombie poster in the mail too when Jen sent one to each of us LOL. (Which is on my wall and I looooove it lol). Luckily for me though people aren't too put off when I get random things either unless (like the Drums doll) it's too specific.
Like no one was surprised then they saw the zombie finger puppets and pet shop make an appearance on my computer desk LMAO.
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Leads to another question though
Have you ever gotten things from friends or collaborators that referenced directly back to one of your stories?
Other than the zombie things and the Drums doll... Dee did send me a stuffed rockhopper penguin, which referenced back to 00Carter.
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I have no idea how to post a picture on here but I'll tweet it lol
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I love the broken Nick doll, hehehe.
I've never admitted to anyone that I write fanfics as they just wouldn't understand. I admitted to a friend in work that I've written a few stories, but I didn't tell him what kind of stories, only that I'd written romance, horror and sci-fi :)
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aww a fishing build a bear! OT I made my husband a cow from build a bear that was dressed like him... LOL
Cute! I love build a bear! Kat have me a cat dressed like Nick one year. I have yet to actually get a bear lmao
My ex Jeremy gave me a cat wearing a hula skirt & coconut bra!
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Leads to another question though
Have you ever gotten things from friends or collaborators that referenced directly back to one of your stories?
Other than the zombie things and the Drums doll... Dee did send me a stuffed rockhopper penguin, which referenced back to 00Carter.
No, but it would be so cool! Imagine a Jordan doll with a half eaten brain? Awesome!
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Besides Mers, nope never gotten a fanfic related gift lol but a lot of years the M's tended to always write stories for each others birthdays. :)
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No, but it would be so cool! Imagine a Jordan doll with a half eaten brain? Awesome!
That would be pretty awesome! lol
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Besides Mers, nope never gotten a fanfic related gift lol but a lot of years the M's tended to always write stories for each others birthdays. :)
I think I could change that for you!
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I think I could change that for you!
Aww lol :)
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Have you ever gotten things from friends or collaborators that referenced directly back to one of your stories?
Besides Broken Nick doll, I've gotten a zombie doll from Rose that you can take the limbs off of (so it combines my favorite things, choppage and the undead LOL). Rose also gave me a bracelet that says Zombie Hunter.
I may be blanking on something, but other than that, I think most fanfic-related things I have are things I bought for myself! LOL I have a plush sad panda that sits by my computer, a plush penguin and a penguin figurine that represent MJ in 00Carter, a Quatchi (Vancouver Olympics mascot) plush for 00Carter, a small collection of King Kong things that make me think of Broken, a collection of severed legs/feet that make me think of Broken, and a broccoli figurine with a face and arms and legs that reminds me of Veggie Boy in Code Blue. Because I'm obsessed with my own stories LOL.
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No, but it would be so cool! Imagine a Jordan doll with a half eaten brain? Awesome!
OMG, that would be amazing!! LOL
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No, but it would be so cool! Imagine a Jordan doll with a half eaten brain? Awesome!
There used to be NKOTB dolls right? That could happen! LMAO. Someone creative needs to get on that.
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We should all do a fanfic related secret Santa exchange lmao
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We should all do a fanfic related secret Santa exchange lmao
That would be fun! Um, can I call Steph? ;) LOL
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Lol yes!
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Lol yes!
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There was a whole long train of thought that brought this question into my head yesterday after our chatty conversation, but I thought I'd wait for a lull to post it. So here it is!
I was thinking yesterday about how we all like to write different things and the reasons I like to write what I do, and I came to the conclusion that there are three types of fanfic writers:
1. Writers who write about things they wish would happen, or their greatest fantasies.
2. Writers who write about things they hope never happen, or their worst nightmares.
3. Writers who write about things that really did happen, either in the Boys' lives or their own lives.
I'm sure most of us do all three, to some extent, but which category would you say you fall into most of the time?
I missed a lot of chatter in here today, I'll try to get caught up.
I think it's a mixture of all three, but probably the last one the most. I've taken elements from my own life and turned them into a plotline for my Nick romance stories, and of course most of my one-shot stories and Running Up That Hill are based on the boys real lives. As far as writing about things I wish would never happen, I do write about those things on occasion, but they tend to upset me.
I guess some of my romance stuff could be classified as fantasies, but a lot of the emotional trauma I put my characters through is either something I've gone through in my own life, or someone I know has gone through. That being said I've written the classic "Nick falls in love with a fan" story, and of course that's a fantasy. Obviously I wish that would happen.
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I have a question which has probably been answered before but I can't remember.
Do your friends/family in real life know that you write fan fiction?
My family sort of knows, but I don't think they really get what it is.
I have one close friend here who also writes fan fic and sometimes we have writing days. She doesn't write real person fiction, but sometimes it's nice to just take over my place or hers with our laptops and get a bunch of writing done. I've gotten a lot accomplished on those writing days!
My work friends no way I would ever tell them! I couple of them follow me on twitter, so they have probably figured it out, but no one has ever said anything about it to me or asked me what all my writing talk was about.
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I have never received anything fanfic related, I did get a pair of purple lips from someone but I can't remember who or where it is.
Mare, I did make a bear when I was in school for teaching I made my classroom bear, he's now in a box since he doesn't get to guard my classroom.
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I don't think I've ever received anything fanfic related, but I don't think I've ever written anything that merits a wacky gift either, lol.
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^ me either Steph, don't think I have anything that a crazy gift could be given. I know I'm on the 00Carter "staff" but I don't think my contributions have been as epic as others
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^ me either Steph, don't think I have anything that a crazy gift could be given. I know I'm on the 00Carter "staff" but I don't think my contributions have been as epic as others
The Drums doll was just cause Rose and I did a Christmas gift exchange that year. I like the idea of a fanfic secret santa thing with a bunch of us though!
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^ me either Steph, don't think I have anything that a crazy gift could be given. I know I'm on the 00Carter "staff" but I don't think my contributions have been as epic as others
Like Julie said, we did a gift exchange. We still give each other things on bdays and Christmas, but not so fanfic specific. It wasn't cause of contributions or anything. In fact I never gave Julie anything 00Carter related. One year it was a shot glass from the 2010 cruise and everything after that was zombies I think LOL.
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Is it time for a new thread? This thing is almost at 50 pages LOL.
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Someone needs to come up with a new question for a new thread lol
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Like Julie said, we did a gift exchange. We still give each other things on bdays and Christmas, but not so fanfic specific. It wasn't cause of contributions or anything. In fact I never gave Julie anything 00Carter related. One year it was a shot glass from the 2010 cruise and everything after that was zombies I think LOL.
I was just talking in general. That is the only fic I've worked on that had anything unusual that could be gifted but none of it came from my brain.
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I was just talking in general. That is the only fic I've worked on that had anything unusual that could be gifted but none of it came from my brain.
It doesn't have to come from your brain - honestly, I tend to forget who actually came up with what. As far as I'm concerned, it takes all of our crazy minds together to come up with this stuff! LOL When I see something that reminds me of 00Carter, I think of all of you - see my tweet the other day about the ticking crocodile toy LOL.